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Hello everyone,
Need your help folks.
I need a tablet for my 9 years old boy, and I am a newbie.....
I thought about either Asus Transformer or Galaxy 10'
- fast browser with flash, youtube, facebook
- skype with video
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright
after downloading)
- easy data transfer from my PC
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2)
Do I need a custom ROM for all above options?
Please share your thoughts, I ve got 2 weeks to make the decision.
Thank you for your help
Can I be your son?
What you ask is possible. And maybe look at what friends his age are using in general?
I'm just curious because I have a 5 year old, do his 9 year old friends also have a laptop or tablet?
qwerty1q said:
- fast browser with flash, facebook YES
- fast youtube NO
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright after downloading) NO
- easy data transfer from my PC NO
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data YES
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2) YES
- laggy user interface YES
Do I need a custom ROM for all above options? NO
Please share your thoughts, I ve got 2 weeks to make the decision.
Thank you for your help
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My thoughts? especially if you are into video thingy (and you don't want to convert it), forget honeycomb tablets. Just buy Samsung Galaxy Tab P1000 or HTC Flyer instead.. they run every and everything smooth and stable !
Is the tab just for him? Not trying to be rude, but I can't understand why a 9 year old needs a tab. Wants yes (mine does) but not need.
My oldest is 10 and he has a mid-range laptop. He gets some use for school, but mostly he uses it for playing games. I can control to an extent what he sees and does while surfing, and at the least keep close tabs on what he does online. I wouldn't think that's possible with a tab.
yeah, can't do something wrong for your son.
LOL I dont think GPS navigation, skype & facebook is for his son !
No. No 10" tablet has the right price/durability ratio for a 9-year-old kid.
Too expensive and too easy to break. Cheap netbook is the solution for kids - more durable, far cheaper.
It will be great for your 9 year old son... until he discovers "free porn"
qwerty1q said:
Hello everyone,
Need your help folks.
I need a tablet for my 9 years old boy, and I am a newbie.....
I thought about either Asus Transformer or Galaxy 10'
- fast browser with flash, youtube, facebook YES
- skype with video NO, I USE FRING. Works on Android and iOS.
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright
after downloading) YES. I use Handbrake to make mp4 files that play directly on Tab and iPad
- easy data transfer from my PC Depends. Who's doing the transfer, you or him? It's easy to use File Manager HD and connect to a LAN share and then Copy/Paste to the Tab. That's how I get the mp4 files to the Tab. Easy for you, might be tougher for him.
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data YES. It's a very, very nice GPS device.
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2) YES
Do I need a custom ROM for all above options? NO, mine is stock, unrooted.
Please share your thoughts, I ve got 2 weeks to make the decision. TAB is the top of the food chain and most expensive. If budget isn't an issue then go for it.
Thank you for your help
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One caveat: Unlike the iPad no password entry is required when making a purchase in the market. DO NOT have a credit card number in his Google account. That way he can't purchase apps or make in-app purchases without typing in a credit card number.
Entropy512 said:
No. No 10" tablet has the right price/durability ratio for a 9-year-old kid.
Too expensive and too easy to break. Cheap netbook is the solution for kids - more durable, far cheaper.
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+1. Make sure you get a warranty with accidental damage. I'm sure your kid is great, but it takes only one drop to ruin these things.
Have you ever used a tablet? It's not the same as a PC. Many things still don't work. One of your requirements is that video work without transcoding. You're not going to get that from a tablet (I use three seperate video programs because some work for some files, and some files just need to be transcoded. It's hit or miss). I don't believe there is a data-free gps solution just yet (someone correct me if I'm wrong). The "fast" browser is still buggy, and pressing buttons or drop down menus can still be a problem. Finally, for a 9-year-old kid there isn't much in the way of parental controls for android yet. If he can use google, he's going to find all kinds of interesting content...
My advice would be the same: get him a cheap netbook. If you really want him to have a tablet, get one of the smaller lighter ones (7") or at least one of the burlier ones (like the iconia or the xoom) so it can take a short drop. There are a lot of smaller lighter choices from china; build quality sucks but they cost less than half this much and have much of the same functionality. The GT10 is very thin (which is why I like it), but it is also far more likely to be damaged by a short fall or a wrong step. At least go to the store and have the kid play around with one for a few minutes, see if he can find his way around it without help (or you will become tech support...).
Good luck! Please post back your experiences. Many of us will be interested in how your kid takes to a tablet computer.
Find out what your kid wants the tablet for games etc or just surfing the net my son is 14 bought him a iPad for xmass never plays it he just wanted it for hell of it
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GPS/Navigation without data
Is that really possible? I tried to open up maps/google nav without being connected to wifi and got a pop up stating I needed a data connection to use the app. Since then I have pre-cached certain areas on maps but as far as turn by turn directions doesn't that need data?
Let me put it this way, my son is 4 years old. I let him play with my iPad and my SGT 7", and he does just fine with them, he's gentle, and treats them with care. He can navigate through them like nobody's business. He'd probably be fine using my SGT 10.1, but I won't let him mess with it simply because it's not as rigid (tough) as the other two, and accidents can happen. If you do end up getting your son an SGT 10.1, I suggest getting a rugged case for it like an Otterbox. (though that defeats the form-factor if you're getting it for thinness)
qwerty1q said:
Hello everyone,
Need your help folks.
I need a tablet for my 9 years old boy, and I am a newbie.....
I thought about either Asus Transformer or Galaxy 10'
- fast browser with flash, youtube, facebook
- skype with video
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright
after downloading)
- easy data transfer from my PC
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2)
Do I need a custom ROM for all above options?
Please share your thoughts, I ve got 2 weeks to make the decision.
Thank you for your help
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If there is one thing that i will say for the apple ipad2 it is that they are for kids and old people. If its for your 9 year old son, i would deffinately get him an ipad. But if you need things like flash then i would go for a netbook. There are many good options, small form factor, things like that.
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Lol I say no because of porn wait til he becomes 15 .
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Lol I say no because of porn wait til he becomes 15 .
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Yeah, because he won't be interested in porn when he's 15...
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Stop the madness
Galaxy TAB.. NO NO NOT for a 9 year old unless you have an otterbox defender case which will never be realease. Otterbox had a press statement that said they will not be producing any otterbox accessores for the Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1. (a bummer I know)
Now my 4 Year old daughter has an ipad 1 encased in the otterbox defender series case. I have all types of books and learning apps on there for her and she loves it. Even have her movies on it (64GB Ipad 1 3G & Wi-fi) sure we don't use the 3G but I only paid $300 for it on ebay. I must also state that while I think children should get used to these things early my daughter is not your average 4 year old. She actually reads on a 2nd grade level. I think the IPAD 1 should be considered you can get one cheap on Ebay or CraigsList. I don't like apple's locked down devices however I couldn't find nearly as many Educational apps (formatted for tablets).. just my 2 cents. I am by no means an apple fanboy. I have the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I have the Nook Color.. My wife uses the Xoom.
Wow, now I remember why I dont buy sony products. Whoever decided to make the sd card slot usless should get a tab up side the head.
Sd card: useless compared to non crippled slots
Micro usb? really? thats the best you could cram into a tablet this size... fail
No hdmi? major fail
The charger is the worst piece of crap I have ever seen
Bravo sony, you wanted to create a tablet that you had to cut by 100$ and a tablet that is crippled and missing its leggs.
Even some 7inch tabs have hdmi, full size usb and a charger that doesnt sound like metal teeth being snapped.
As for power and gpu, my samsung galaxy NOTE gt-N7000 runs circles around this failure.
If you love it, good for you, I require more.
Rant over
First of all, of course you galaxy note runs circles around it. It's clocked at 1.4ghz vs the sony s's 1ghz. Not really sure what your basis for the claims of the GPU performance are.. they should be fairly similar though, so if the Galaxy Note does indeed outperform it then your right that it's pretty crappy of Sony.
I agree with you for most of the other parts though. Can't really justify the need for downsizing the USB port when it's such a large case up there. Hell they could have fit two there! HDMI would have been great, but there are plenty that don't have it on the market, at least this one offers DLNA. I don't have a problem with the charger.. seems to me that it would be much, much more durable than the micro USB's android phones ahve been strapping.
Plus some people pay hundreds for a universal remote, and this has one with great form and function. Like anything it has it's pro's and cons.
The two things that stung me about it that got me after purchase is the SDcard storage thingo, and lack of support from gameloft :\.
But hey, could be worse and just not have an SD card slot like some do. Now that is a fail.
DreadPirateDan said:
First of all, of course you galaxy note runs circles around it. It's clocked at 1.4ghz vs the sony s's 1ghz. Not really sure what your basis for the claims of the GPU performance are.. they should be fairly similar though, so if the Galaxy Note does indeed outperform it then your right that it's pretty crappy of Sony.
I agree with you for most of the other parts though. Can't really justify the need for downsizing the USB port when it's such a large case up there. Hell they could have fit two there! HDMI would have been great, but there are plenty that don't have it on the market, at least this one offers DLNA. I don't have a problem with the charger.. seems to me that it would be much, much more durable than the micro USB's android phones ahve been strapping.
Plus some people pay hundreds for a universal remote, and this has one with great form and function. Like anything it has it's pro's and cons.
The two things that stung me about it that got me after purchase is the SDcard storage thingo, and lack of support from gameloft :\.
But hey, could be worse and just not have an SD card slot like some do. Now that is a fail.
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The gpu plays as big a roll as the cpu in terms of render. I had a 154$ tablet that used an all winner cortex9 with a mali-400 gpu and it destroys the sony tablet. Of course at 154$ it had a ****ty 7inch screen. After my iphone 4 and 4s, i cant go back to hiddeous pixel screens. I found the perfect middle ground in my Samsung Note. It has the muscle to back up its amazing screen.
BTW, that cheap tablet with the amazing cpu/gpu had hdmi, usb and a micro sdhc slot. Its the now gone Ainol Novo 7 Advanced (not the the basic model).
I must say, the sony tablet screen look terrible compared to my Note but if i hold it far enough away, the pixels dont jump out at me as much.
Mind you its apples to oranges because the Note's display is an ips super amoled with an almost retina ppi.
I called sony today to pass on my thoughts. They sound ignorant. Their sales reflect that. Maybe if they drop it another 100$ people will stop returning it when the insert their sd card and haul the charger out of the box with a tractor.
The card works fine with any 3rd party app quickpic mx player etc thanks for playing technical genius
Who uses stock apps anyway
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wintermute000 said:
The card works fine with any 3rd party app quickpic mx player etc thanks for playing technical genius
Who uses stock apps anyway
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Bitterness ages a face ;-)
Oh, and try to download a movie on your sony tablet directly to you sd card.... oh right, crippled
Regarding the "crippled" SD Card slot, as far as I can tell its only crippled with Sony apps. If you use any standard Android app the SD card slot is fully usable and accessible. I've got a 32 gig sd card in there and have no problem playing videos/music/open files directly off it. No speed issues or anything. I never transfer anything...
pfcwintergreen said:
Regarding the "crippled" SD Card slot, as far as I can tell its only crippled with Sony apps. If you use any standard Android app the SD card slot is fully usable and accessible. I've got a 32 gig sd card in there and have no problem playing videos/music/open files directly off it. No speed issues or anything. I never transfer anything...
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Nowhere did I refer to playback. Try to download natively to your sd card with your tablet. Crippled. Playback is useless if you cant get the media on the card in the first place. Maybe run out and buy a real tablet to do the muscle work and use the sony for the pansy playback?
Did Sony kill your parents? Good Lord, let it go. You don't like the Tablet S, but a lot of us do. Who cares? Don't buy it! I like PS3 controller compatibility and universal remote features. They build different tablets for a reason, just like how they make different phones, different TVs, furniture, cars, ice cream flavors, etc...
You can use dolphin browser ( and many other browser ) to download file into sd card directly.
unclespoon said:
Did Sony kill your parents? Good Lord, let it go. You don't like the Tablet S, but a lot of us do. Who cares? Don't buy it! I like PS3 controller compatibility and universal remote features. They build different tablets for a reason, just like how they make different phones, different TVs, furniture, cars, ice cream flavors, etc...
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Yeah, because you've never bought something ad ranted. I always love the holier than thou type.
roticagas said:
You can use dolphin browser ( and many other browser ) to download file into sd card directly.
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Yes thank you. Too bad dolphin crashes on my sony tab and it only downloads certain things. I download movies and stuff on my samsung note with torrent apps. Sony s will only download to its own memory. But thanks
BeamMeUpStreaky said:
Yes thank you. Too bad dolphin crashes on my sony tab and it only downloads certain things. I download movies and stuff on my samsung note with torrent apps. Sony s will only download to its own memory. But thanks
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Sell your sony and use your samsung if is better than a workstation.
Sony s runs android, so " Sony s will only download to its own memory " is a meaningless phrase.
david8 said:
Sell your sony and use your samsung if is better than a workstation.
Sony s runs android, so " Sony s will only download to its own memory " is a meaningless phrase.
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Anything I say will be meaningless to you for the simple fact that you are limited to your own opinion. I however dont get frustrated when other people are not acting as my clone.
"Sony s runs android"?? do you think my more capable Note runs windows 7??Obviously they both use android.
On most tablets and my Note, "I" decide where my downloads go ie to the units memory or to the memory card I have installed. Sony s makes that choice for you. Its not my opinion, its a fact. Kinda runs in the face of what android lovers seem to hold so dear... "freedom".
I may sell my crippled tablet for a capable one, or just give it to my 5 year old nephew to play with.
I will pick up a galaxy tab, as far as I can see, looks better.
Dont hate on people, life is too short ;-)
lifes too short to go moaning on a forum about a problem thats arguable negligible to most usage scenarios, then writing snarky 'witticisms'.
your really need more hobbies if you're resorting to torrenting on tablets and complaining about not being able to do so on one model.... (who the heck does that?!!).
BeamMeUpStreaky said:
Anything I say will be meaningless to you for the simple fact that you are limited to your own opinion. I however dont get frustrated when other people are not acting as my clone.
"Sony s runs android"?? do you think my more capable Note runs windows 7??Obviously they both use android.
On most tablets and my Note, "I" decide where my downloads go ie to the units memory or to the memory card I have installed. Sony s makes that choice for you. Its not my opinion, its a fact. Kinda runs in the face of what android lovers seem to hold so dear... "freedom".
I may sell my crippled tablet for a capable one, or just give it to my 5 year old nephew to play with.
I will pick up a galaxy tab, as far as I can see, looks better.
Dont hate on people, life is too short ;-)
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you are crazy boy.
He's only making points that have been made time and time again by most of you, just he's not willing to just accept it and be happy with the tab. No real reason for everyone to start flaming
It's very true that sony has imposed too much of there own influence. Not only that, but made it so there is currently no possible way to root it and make the changes we want done.
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You can use dolphin browser ( and many other browser ) to download file into sd card directly.
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Exactly, I would write the same.
I Don't understand this kind of posts, what helps? We need to improve the usability of this tablet until the root is not available...
DreadPirateDan said:
He's only making points that have been made time and time again by most of you, just he's not willing to just accept it and be happy with the tab. No real reason for everyone to start flaming
It's very true that sony has imposed too much of there own influence. Not only that, but made it so there is currently no possible way to root it and make the changes we want done.
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Thanks for being helpful. I knew i wasnt the only person to ever complain here about the sd problem. I wasnt harping on it, simply replying to people who took the time to talk with me about it.
I too look forward to a root and i hope that the sd problem is software not hardeware and that sony might wake up to at least match 150$ tablets in that regard.
Im not a fan of honeycomb so ics would be nice. Cheers
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Exactly, I would write the same.
I Don't understand this kind of posts, what helps? We need to improve the usability of this tablet until the root is not available...
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My 3rd party apps that download video or music content are restricted to the 16GB internal. There is zero way to make anything go to the sd card because the tablet treats the sd card as if it wasnt even there. The only thing the tablet can do is transfer files to and from the sd card.. Period.
As for dolphin, what would you download with that?
On a side note.. you can download with atorrent and specify the the destination can't you? The only problem I had with it was wifi going into sleep mode.. so I was pretty dissapoinnted to wake up and find it only downloaded 1.2%. lol.
Basically I knew what I was buying hardware wise when I bought it - aside from the creaks I discovered later. Then was massively let down software wise due to the restrictions.
I feel asthough if we got it rooted, we could just rename sdcard1 to sdcar2, and vice versa. Hopefully such a switcharoo would work and then it would continue on as it has, but with much more memory there .
It's going to be a real shame if Sony's take on ICS leaves us in the same boat, can't be rooted, can't be downgraded, and then someone discovers a root for HC
I don't know about everyone else, but my note is nearly a PC replacement at this point for me. I don't find much use in my laptop or desktop for anything besides the occasional file management, & playing PC games (rarely even that anymore). The quality of games are starting to rival consoles as well, especially with me now playing most of my mobile games with console controllers.
For me, since I'm near sighted, having a high resolution screen that I can hold up close is for me a much better option then looking at a TV monitor or PC monitor across the room for media viewing.
PLUS having the option of being able to put the thing in my pocket just makes it much more practical then taking any other device with me, including a tablet.
If needed I even have a Bluetooth keyboard that works great with the note as well as a USB dongle to hookup a mouse or any external drives to my note. Office emulation on mobile is also good enough for my needs, and web browsing IMO is much easier and more fluid on my note then both PC's I own.
I personally have little to no use for any other devices besides my phone at this point, and there is certainly nothing that even comes close to being more practical for my lifestyle. I Currently don't subscribe to cable or landline internet services, so being able to wirelessly tether my data connection from my phone to my other devices adds a whole new layer of practicality to the equation.
So for me, my phone has almost replaced not only my PC , but my TV and internet services as well. Am I the only one with this opinion?
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My phone has replaced:
My previous phone haha
My diary
My day planner
My gps/ navigator
My tv (netflix ftw)
My wireless hotspot (wifi tethering)
My computer, I just use it to play Diablo 3 now
And my mom (lol jk )
I also bought a bluetooth keyboard but I bought the 5.3 inch one and it is honestly, the most awkward decision I have ever made because it's too small for regular typing, but kinda too big for thumb typing although that's how I use it. It just makes me look like I'm a crazy gamer without a console.
I am also near sighted and had the HTC Inspire. We're like twins!
But yeah, I completely agree.
I'm near sighted as hell also, but i have a 30 inch monitor, and these little new fangled inventions called "eyeglasses" they're pretty new, dunno if you've heard of them yet, but something tells me they are going to be a huge hit with us blind folks lolz
But in all seriousness, it has replaced my browsing habits, that i do all in phone, including posting this.
But as for completely replacing my desktop, that'll never happen for me, i spent a relative lot of money on my rig and i play games on it a lot. And while mobile games are getting better... there is no comparison to the power/speed/freedom to modify the game itself to a full desktop.
Plus I can't develop for the phone on the phone, need my pc for that
Hmmmmmmm, you win this round, studacris.
That made me LOL.
Mine never will, 27" monitor with lots of of gaming
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Never a replacement.
Do far too much development work on a PC.
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Not a replacement but certainly enables a lot less use of my laptop.
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Nope, browser is not good enough and screen is too small. I am mid 50's with presbyopia, (old eyes) and without readers, cannot see even this big screen. Lack of support from our IT guys keep me from network access, so it is mostly still laptop, tablet, note, in that order. Network support for VPN keeps me from using it more than I would like to do.
Ph0n3D0rk said:
I also bought a bluetooth keyboard but I bought the 5.3 inch one and it is honestly, the most awkward decision I have ever made because it's too small for regular typing, but kinda too big for thumb typing although that's how I use it. It just makes me look like I'm a crazy gamer without a console.
I am also near sighted and had the HTC Inspire. We're like twins!
But yeah, I completely agree.
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lol I almost made the same mistake when I was shopping for a keyboard but soon realized how in-between those things are and opted for a full sizer that's still pretty portable.
But yeah were definitely twins lol
studacris said:
I'm near sighted as hell also, but i have a 30 inch monitor, and these little new fangled inventions called "eyeglasses" they're pretty new, dunno if you've heard of them yet, but something tells me they are going to be a huge hit with us blind folks lolz
But in all seriousness, it has replaced my browsing habits, that i do all in phone, including posting this.
But as for completely replacing my desktop, that'll never happen for me, i spent a relative lot of money on my rig and i play games on it a lot. And while mobile games are getting better... there is no comparison to the power/speed/freedom to modify the game itself to a full desktop.
Plus I can't develop for the phone on the phone, need my pc for that
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Ha. I actually have a pretty serious gaming PC as well, however as my life becomes more and more on-the-go, it just isn't something I can spend much time with unfortunately. But since I'm still a gamer at heart, Google play games are certainly good enough when I'm mobile. I guess I too would probably never truly untie myself from my desktop, but my laptop on the other hand is completely useless to me now. Im even Considering selling it. That said, since I'm not really a coder or developer I could still in theory rid myself of the PC life and move completely mobile if necessary.
Glad to hear everyone's input.
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Really nowhere close. My phone is used as a planner, gps and for browsing the interwebz on the couch or at work. My pc is used for far too much for my phone to be even remotely capable of replacing it. The phone lacks processing power and real world application support.....plus i can't game on this thing.
-no, that's not a note in my pocket, i am deff happy to see you.
Being a glasses dependant, young 40 something , I don't really see myself being able to narrow down my "computer" use solely to my phone (SGS2). The headaches would get to me. That being said it certainly has worked in a pinch & I'd feel lost without it. What has happened for me, though, in the last few months, is that we moved & I hurt my back. So, although I'm getting around o.k., the last thing I want to do during my down time is sit at a desk and this is where my Sam Tab 10.1 comes in! It has certainly replaced my computer, we didn't even set my PC back up after the move and it's a great computer my husband custom built for me (I have concerns about it seriptiously becoming an organ donor though!) One thing I've found that I do miss is having two+ windows open simultaneously, re-enter my SGS2! I've caught my husband rolling his eyes at times but with these 2 devices and my wireless printer, I'm set. Besides, I always have his PC to do any rooting, etc. And funny, It turns out his PC is always very well maintained, updated, latest everything, etc., go figure. AND I find free tech support is always close at hand whenever I use his PC, he's like a nervous new mom trying very hard to trust some loser babysitter with his child.
Hope that helps, ms.samsprung
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not even close to replacing my pc and home theater entertainment center....
I mean watching movies on a 5 inch screen??????
don't sell it short, I'll tell you like i told every girl I've been with:
IT'S 5.3 INCHES!!
Never a replacement but a great mobile extension. Dual 21" monitors with HDMI out to a 55" flatscreen, 3.2ghz quad core booting from a solid state drive and 16gigs of ram will never be replaced by a phone. It is my server, media center, communication hub, entertainment system and gaming rig all in one. I built it 6 years ago and it gets upgraded piece by piece. Only thing that's the same is the power supply, optical drives and motherboard which I will switch next year when more devices start using USB 3.0
Mac can go to hell
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Never a replacement but a great mobile extension. Dual 21" monitors with HDMI out to a 55" flatscreen, 3.2ghz quad core booting from a solid state drive and 16gigs of ram will never be replaced by a phone. It is my server, media center, communication hub, entertainment system and gaming rig all in one. I built it 6 years ago and it gets upgraded piece by piece. Only thing that's the same is the power supply, optical drives and motherboard which I will switch next year when more devices start using USB 3.0
Mac can go to hell
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I liked your post, until yo said Mac can go to hell.....I hate apple in general, but after 30+ years of computing, Mac has been the best thing to happen to my household, as far as computers go..
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I liked your post, until yo said Mac can go to hell.....I hate apple in general, but after 30+ years of computing, Mac has been the best thing to happen to my household, as far as computers go..
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Macs are enemies of your freedom.
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Macs are enemies of your freedom.
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seriously, you really think a computer has anything to do with your personal freedom?
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seriously, you really think a computer has anything to do with your personal freedom?
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Yes it does. Windows is just as bad. Android is too. That's why I'm waiting for B2G so that I could have some type of freedom in my OS. Android is just the lesser of the evils, for now. Macs are up there though. There's a reason why I own a Leemote laptop.
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. AND I find free tech support is always close at hand whenever I use his PC, he's like a nervous new mom trying very hard to trust some loser babysitter with his child.
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He's just worried you'll find his Pr0n, lol.
Seriously, though, my Note hasn't replaced anything yet, but it has made me less inclined to get a Nexus tablet, if that counts.
I am debating on purchasing a tablet with a keyboard for school. Solely to use in class. I could use my smartphone while on the go, and my laptop for when I am in a dedicated studying area.
Does anyone else own all three devices? I was hoping someone could enlighten me about how using all three could be beneficial, or if a laptop would suffice?
Thanks.
Tablets are great to have on the family room table to browse while you watch TV but pretty useless when it comes to getting real school work done. Take the laptop to class. The phone is just that, a phone. Occasionally it comes in handy as USB mass storage if you are short a thumb drive or to give your laptop a good internet connection if the schools wifi signal is weak.
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Having all 3 is great. I've got my phone when on the go. Tablet when Im chillin at home or in a crowd, and laptop when doing hardcore research and in need of USB ports and such.
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I have all 3 also.. but since I get my note. I seem to rarely turn on my laptop.. and tablet hardly every gets used now.. seems like my note pretty much took over.
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Get the note 10.1 as your tablet. I experimented this last semester with using just my note for taking notes in class using smemo, and while the functionality was awesome being able to use Swype for text entry and the pen for equations and diagrams/sketches all in one document, the larger screen of the note 10.1 would be a great tool and make note taking flawless.
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I got all three I barely touch my tablet anymore the note covers for the large gaming/browsing screen and the laptop covers everything else I need I don't think the tablets necessary but it's still nice to have
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Ill tell you what. Ever since I got my note I barley use my laptop- even in school I use my note with my Bluetooth keypad and take notes via Google drive so i have it on cloud storage.
Sometimes I even write essays on it like a bau5 -
I only use my laptop now for like heavy Java and flash things that really don work on the note
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Ill tell you what. Ever since I got my note I barley use my laptop- even in school I use my note with my Bluetooth keypad and take notes via Google drive so i have it on cloud storage.
Sometimes I even write essays on it like a bau5 -
I only use my laptop now for like heavy Java and flash things that really don work on the note
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I typically use my Note for just about everything except gaming.
Ray, mind mentioning which Bluetooth keypad you are using?
Honestly...phablet (phone+tablet) and a laptop will be great for school. So go with a Galaxy Note or Note 2 and a laptop if you can afford it.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
NOTE user:
"take a deep breath, make sure to get a good look at it, relax and slowly take it in, the size is overwhelming at first but you will have a happy ending afterwards".
Woman:
My wife has the kindle fire, I have the nexus 7, my 5 year old son has a trio tablet. Tablets for us are nothing more but toys, something solely for entertainment purposes and occasional skype, google talk. I'm a software developer so I need my laptop on the go and my PC at home. Although I'm seeing my note replacing the tablet.
Ever since I got my note. The fiancée uses the tablet more. I only time I use the tablet is to update apps. Laptop is use for other things the note can't do.
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If you can only get one, get a laptop. No exceptions. A tablet is primarily a consumption device, a laptop lets you a lot more. Any school-specific software (office, photoshop, design apps, programming apps, compilers, web development, 3d modelling, etc...) is likely Windows (or Win/Mac/Linux) only. A tablet alone won't cut it.
Made my way through college (computer engineering) without a smartphone as well, had a laptop, desktop, tablet, and a mini-tablet (Android mp3 player) but just a basic prepaid phone. There's wireless everywhere on most college campuses, so you won't need a smartphone. Only bought my Note in May after graduation.
If you need high performance for school or gaming, I'd even recommend a nice custom desktop and a cheap netbook, you can always remote in to the desktop from the laptop.
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If you can only get one, get a laptop. No exceptions. A tablet is primarily a consumption device, a laptop lets you a lot more. Any school-specific software (office, photoshop, design apps, programming apps, compilers, web development, 3d modelling, etc...) is likely Windows (or Win/Mac/Linux) only. A tablet alone won't cut it.
Made my way through college (computer engineering) without a smartphone as well, had a laptop, desktop, tablet, and a mini-tablet (Android mp3 player) but just a basic prepaid phone. There's wireless everywhere on most college campuses, so you won't need a smartphone. Only bought my Note in May after graduation.
If you need high performance for school or gaming, I'd even recommend a nice custom desktop and a cheap netbook, you can always remote in to the desktop from the laptop.
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Side question. Do you think computer engineering major is suck, i do. I might not a smart student. However i just gained a lil knowledge from computer engineering major after got my BS(B****) degree. I wish i can go to Computer Science instead.
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Side question. Do you think computer engineering major is suck, i do. I might not a smart student. However i just gained a lil knowledge from computer engineering major after got my BS(B****) degree. I wish i can go to Computer Science instead.
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I guess it really depends on what you want to do. My first 2 degrees are in computer science. I have a friend who did computer engineering but we have totally different jobs. I run a training datacenter and he designs chips for Intel. I like my job better and he likes his better.
Anyway to the OP, here's something that might get you thinking. http://clamcase.com/clambook-android-and-iphone-laptop-dock.html
I was going to buy another tablet, like a prime with the keyboard dock, but when I saw that, I decided to wait. Our phones are powerhouses and that would be just freaking cool to have.
a lot of people here mentioned they don't use their tablets anymore and I'm one of them which is another reason why I haven't pulled the trigger on a prime. My Note covers almost everything I want to do on it. when at home I run my media center, RDP into my server for upgrades, drive my boxee box. Heck if I could find a universal IR controller that allowed me to do so via wifi I'd get rid of my universal remote. This phone is just sweet, it's big enough to play games on and small enough not to feel like a burden.
I own all three. Skip the tablet. Get a laptop and phablet.
You can choose according to your budget and needs.
1. Galaxy note 10.1 + desktop.
2. Note 2 + Surface pro.
3. Laptop + S3.
4. Note + (high end) desktop.
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I typically use my Note for just about everything except gaming.
Ray, mind mentioning which Bluetooth keypad you are using?
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Yeah no worries!
I use the ps3 Bluetooth keypad. I'm sure there are better ones but its small- hooks onto things (like my steering wheel) and has a mouse function!
Its also like $20 on amazon and its a nice Sony product. Also the battery lasts like forever maybe 3 weeks idk maybe more I never actually drained it!
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Computer engineering? I loved it! I love low-level software as well as digital electronics hardware, and CompE is basically a low-level CS and digital systems EE combination. Great for people like me who prefer discrete/binary math to complex, real-valued math that you face in upper-level CS.
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How much faster is Nexus 7 compare to HTC Flyer for real world usage.
I've been using Flyer for about a year now and it's seem to be very slow to me, especially when surfing websites.
Can Nexus handle flash better with Quad cores and all?
I want to know if it worth giving away my Flyer and buy Nexus 7. If it's not too much different, then I'll just keep the flyer.
I've had both and TBH with my Flyer being overclocked to 1.84 GHZ I can notice no difference between the two in smoothness when browsing, tweeting, reading..etc
That said though, JB and quad core does make a difference ofcourse, especially when games are concerned.
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How much faster is Nexus 7 compare to HTC Flyer for real world usage.
I've been using Flyer for about a year now and it's seem to be very slow to me, especially when surfing websites.
Can Nexus handle flash better with Quad cores and all?
I want to know if it worth giving away my Flyer and buy Nexus 7. If it's not too much different, then I'll just keep the flyer.
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I don't know about the Nexus 7, but for your Flyer, you may want to try the Puffin Browser off of the Android Market/Google Play before you buy another tablet. It sped my web surfing up tremendously. The company suggests trying the free version of the app first.
Also, u may want to search Nexus 7 + flash. I've read that it doesn't natively support flash (not certain), but hopefully that's nothing that a downloaded app can't fix.
I have great browsing with Boat browser.
Trust me its a huge speed difference. You guys saying its barely noticeable are just lieing to yourselves. Its like comparing choppiness to butter. Yea there similar alright. Cmon now.
Aside from speed the flyer has a full 7 inch screen in complete use (gingerbread only) and a nice pen function going for it.
yeah gotta agree with you. nexus 7 is faster. That feeling when I use my brother's Nexus7 and then i go back using my flyer ><
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yeah gotta agree with you. nexus 7 is faster. That feeling when I use my brother's Nexus7 and then i go back using my flyer ><
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Im in the EXACT situation haha
Flyer good...Nexus incredible!
I've had my Flyer for over a year and have been fighting rom issues since then, it is workable (except GPS...Shame on you HTC for not fixing this!). Side by side -I've had my Nexus for 3 days now, the nexus screen is brighter,better contrast- whites now look slightly yellowed on the Flyer. Nexus speed is much better(expected), BT, GPS, & WiFi all operate flawlessly. I am using a usb adaptor cable from Amazon ($2.00)! to further expand storage and also connects to other devices for file transfer and viewing.Battery life on the Flyer was a solid 4.5 hours with constant video loop running- I expect 2/3 to twice the run time with the Nexus. I have a rooted-32g Nexus...couldn't be happier at this point!
Final note- I side loaded Flash and it works well with Firefox Beta.:fingers-crossed: Update:Boat browser is very fast and stable, I usually have to reboot my Flyer a couple of times a day due to lag or sometimes freezing...not so with the Nexus.
The two aren't even comparable. The N7 blows the flyer/view4g away in every aspect. I have the Veiw4g and the N7, and I don't even use the view anymore. It's so slow and crappy, it's not even worth it. If you are thinking about getting the N7, just do it. The flyer is dated now, and it's not going to get any fast no matter what you do.
Oh, and as far as media consumption goes, the N7 can actually handle everything I throw at it. I can't even watch my vulkano in anything more than low res on the view. But the N7 I can put it to it's highest quality setting and it works great. Same with Hulu, and Netflix. As well as streamed content from my HTPC.
I've played with the N7 at stores and it's pretty nice.
If Someone gave me one for free, I probably would use my flyer drastically less.
However, as much as I want project butter on my flyer I find that it would probably be a waste of money for me to personally upgrade. I'll still do the same stuff with either device.. Browse web, facebook, read books, and avoid pulling out a netbook when I can. So it raises the question why upgrade if I have a perfectly working device?
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The two aren't even comparable. The N7 blows the flyer/view4g away in every aspect. I have the Veiw4g and the N7, and I don't even use the view anymore. It's so slow and crappy, it's not even worth it. If you are thinking about getting the N7, just do it. The flyer is dated now, and it's not going to get any fast no matter what you do.
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You sir are corect N7 blows but not Flyer away but simply BLOWS; with no SD card, no stereo sound, no vibra, no front camera, no pen, no HW buttons; so wjhat extra from cpu and scree is there left at all? No sim?
So that means:
limited to no small amount of space
Cant do videocalls (good luck with mirrors)
No silent alert wheil in classes, meetings ect...
Less screen
ect ect...
For mine usage of device it BLOWS unlike Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 wich is quite nice; more up to date device then Flyer and has that "magic" JB/ICS, wich Flyer doesent; but even with the JB ports we do have for Flyer we have more working hardware then Nexus have. And good luck with rearlly suported tegra games.
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You sir are corect N7 blows but not Flyer away but simply BLOWS; with no SD card, no stereo sound, no vibra, no front camera, no pen, no HW buttons; so wjhat extra from cpu and scree is there left at all? No sim?
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Umm, they are coming out with a 3g N7, you realize that, right? The sound between the two is comparable, as I HAVE both. Is having vibrate really necessary on a tablet? And it has a front camera, just no rear camera? I'm beginning to wonder if you have even used the device. It has a front camera specifically for video calls. HW buttons are a matter of preference, but not a necessity. The pen I will give you, but when you can't even get HTC to FIX the crap they broke with the update, IT"S NOT WORTH DEALING WITH IT. I will never own another HTC device after HTC screwed us over on the tablets. (not to mention the year wait on getting ICS on my old Tbolt, or 8 months for the rezound I bought) The SD card missing is a downer, but there are many workarounds that it's not a total loss. There is WIFI storage sharing (so I can use the 80GB I have on my phone between it's 64GB sd and 16 internal) Then there is USB OTG.
So that means:
limited to no small amount of spaceYou are not limited, just not as easy to add storage as with the flyer/View
Cant do videocalls (good luck with mirrors)This is just flat wrong
No silent alert wheil in classes, meetings ect... Really? It doesn't have a LED, but it does still "alert", just on screen. How many alerts do you have set up on your tab? I have almost none. Mostly calendar appt's and such.
Less screenHow? If there is a difference(16:9 vs 16:10) its a matter of a .1 inch or so.
ect ect...
For mine usage of device it BLOWS unlike Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 wich is quite nice; more up to date device then Flyer and has that "magic" JB/ICS, wich Flyer doesent; but even with the JB ports we do have for Flyer we have more working hardware then Nexus have. And good luck with rearlly suported tegra games.
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I don't play games, but I haven't seen anything it can't do yet. I would like to know how you figure there is more working hardware on the JB ports to the flyer/view than the N7? You have a rear camera/SD card. that's it. I have both. (actually, I have all three. View/Flyer/N7. The flyer is my Fiancees. and I have the View/N7.
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I've played with the N7 at stores and it's pretty nice.
If Someone gave me one for free, I probably would use my flyer drastically less.
However, as much as I want project butter on my flyer I find that it would probably be a waste of money for me to personally upgrade. I'll still do the same stuff with either device.. Browse web, facebook, read books, and avoid pulling out a netbook when I can. So it raises the question why upgrade if I have a perfectly working device?
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i am in the same exact situation. i have a device that serves my needs (well i could benefit from bluetooth on the JB rom) and i keep looking for reasons to justify upgrading
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Umm, they are coming out with a 3g N7, you realize that, right?
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cool but there is still non so it even lacks on 3g wich i didnt listed...
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The sound between the two is comparable, as I HAVE both.
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is comperable ofc but when u cant hear diference between stereo and mono i would recomend some examination of hearing
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Is having vibrate really necessary on a tablet?
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yes i need it badlly as i use mine 7'' tab for phone functionalities as well
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And it has a front camera, just no rear camera? I'm beginning to wonder if you have even used the device. It has a front camera specifically for video calls.
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I dont owe device i used it once when i was deciding wich second tab to buy and i decided for Samsung Galaxy 2 7''. Sorry since i forgot wich camera it does not have; but point stays - lacks on camera. Now ask me if we need it.. Do we need a tab?
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HW buttons are a matter of preference, but not a necessity.
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As nothing is NECESSERY - i simply love them and missing them on SGTAB 2. Hiting HOME when u in full scree app helps a lot with time and pressing.
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The pen I will give you, but when you can't even get HTC to FIX the crap they broke with the update, IT"S NOT WORTH DEALING WITH IT. I will never own another HTC device after HTC screwed us over on the tablets. (not to mention the year wait on getting ICS on my old Tbolt, or 8 months for the rezound I bought)
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U think i am happy with that?
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The SD card missing is a downer, but there are many workarounds that it's not a total loss. There is WIFI storage sharing (so I can use the 80GB I have on my phone between it's 64GB sd and 16 internal) Then there is USB OTG.
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Workaraund - i have superfast internet wire and PC to browse fast... What has that to do with mine Flyer or N7?
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I don't play games, but I haven't seen anything it can't do yet.
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I cant give u sdcard to share u mine documents with is prity common on all mobiel devices. U cant film your gf or take pic of her, u cant draw or handwrite, no way to listen to quality music since onlly suporting 1 chanel insted of minimum 2 for stereo.
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I would like to know how you figure there is more working hardware on the JB ports to the flyer/view than the N7? You have a rear camera/SD card. that's it. I have both. (actually, I have all three. View/Flyer/N7. The flyer is my Fiancees. and I have the View/N7.
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CORECTOMUNDO - u did figure it already with rear camera working SD slot but u forgot the pen and hw buttons we have stereo sound as well on JB and vibra working. All this is working on Flyer loaded with JB and is something N7 wont EVER have. Never Ever.
All i am saying is for what i need tab N7 sucks. Now if your onlly use of tab is a bit faster browsing i guess N7 is a winer buy. I unfortunally expect more. And there is much N7 does simplly not offer. Its not cheap for no reason I wont go into ghosting and cracking screens...
Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Right under his name it says "Location: Velenje"
I'm guessing his main language isn't english.
Pro-tip: Don't ask him to fix his english.
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i am in the same exact situation. i have a device that serves my needs (well i could benefit from bluetooth on the JB rom) and i keep looking for reasons to justify upgrading
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Yeah, I still honestly love the build quality on the flyer and it still has a relatively nice screen.
Since you are on the JB rom, I need to ask did they get the screen to turn off properly yet? That was the only thing holding me back personally. As long as it has good battery life I am really considering using it.
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Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Not arguing just saying mine points about flyer and n7 since some overrating and only a few good points about n7 beeing presented wheil only bad ones about flyer beeing pointed out. Looking forward to hear from you and where i posted any missleads or lies or non valid points.
As for mine english : yes i could put more time into what i am posting but hey looks like u understand right. Hows your Slovenian? I did something in mine life to understand u, what u did to understand me?
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Yeah, I still honestly love the build quality on the flyer and it still has a relatively nice screen.
Since you are on the JB rom, I need to ask did they get the screen to turn off properly yet? That was the only thing holding me back personally. As long as it has good battery life I am really considering using it.
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if you are referring to the backlight remaining on after locking the screen - it still occurs quite often. however, if i turn it on and off a few times it eventually completely turns off (can be quite annoying) i am really not sure of the battery life as i basically keep the flyer charged.
P.S. I recently had a few random reboots ( but only once while I was actually using it ) and it won't play HD YouTube - not that big o f a deal to me
Nah