I don't think the prime has gorilla glass, got two rather nasty scratches on my screen, one in the middle, one near the edge, and because of the reboots i hardly use it. yet I've had my desire (which sits in my pocket when not in use) for 18 months and there isn't a mark on it.
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Yes it does have Gorilla glas. And yes, it can still scratch.
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Yes it does have Gorilla glas. And yes, it can still scratch.
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but, but it has quad core....
seriously, there is no 100% scratch resistant glass. best i've seen is on the Galaxy Nexus. Just my opinion.
It's obviously a really think gorrila glass so it's not so reinforced...
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This thread is already tired.
Gorilla glass is scratch-resistant, not scratch-proof! Take good care of your stuff and you won't have this issue.
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It's obviously a really think gorrila glass so it's not so reinforced...
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How thick the glass is has nothing to do with how easily it is scratched. Thickness helps with tensile strength, not hardness. You could have glass 2 inches thick, the surface would still scratch as easily as a glass pane .125 inches thick.
And the prime does have gorilla glass.
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Gorilla, chimpanzee, whatever you call it, it does scratch and it doesn't take much. I am extremely careful with my stuff and I got the screen on my Prime chipped. Very small, can't see it when the screen is on, just with it turned off, reflecting light. Have no idea how it happened.
I don't buy devices without Gorilla glass, and can say, they don't scratch easily. They WILL scratch, but it takes significant abuse in my experience.
I've been using mine carefully for about 6 weeks and have no scratches. I'd chalk this up to user error. No offense.
Instead of saying what has already been said, I am going to provide hopefully a little possible ray of hope. A lot of times instead of it actually being a scratch it is something ON the glass, which can be buffed off with some elbow grease.
Also, if it is a scratch, try this fix. Get some furniture polish and a clean cotton rag. Spray the polish on the rag and work it into the scratch. Gently rub it in the scratch, and then wipe away any excess. You may need to do this several times but it SHOULD fix the scratch as long as it is not too wide.
Finally, there is always the option of jeweler's rouge, which can be gotten at a lot of hardware stores. Follow the directions and you should be able to buff out any scratches that you have. Keep in mind, this process will take several hours, and should also be your last resort.
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There may not be 100% scratch resistant glass, but there is a problem if a phone can live in my pocket for 18 months with zero scratches, compared with a tablet that has only been used for less than a week (and not for long each day, after the 2nd or 3rd crash I just get bored and put it away) that is sealed and protected with a dock when not in use.
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Instead of saying what has already been said, I am going to provide hopefully a little possible ray of hope. A lot of times instead of it actually being a scratch it is something ON the glass, which can be buffed off with some elbow grease.
Also, if it is a scratch, try this fix. Get some furniture polish and a clean cotton rag. Spray the polish on the rag and work it into the scratch. Gently rub it in the scratch, and then wipe away any excess. You may need to do this several times but it SHOULD fix the scratch as long as it is not too wide.
Finally, there is always the option of jeweler's rouge, which can be gotten at a lot of hardware stores. Follow the directions and you should be able to buff out any scratches that you have. Keep in mind, this process will take several hours, and should also be your last resort.
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The problem with that is I'm terrified of touching the thing now, I have only ever cleaned the screen with the cloth that came with a £1000 Samsung tv I have, cos the one that came with the prime was ****. but I will consider it.. I honestly can't understand what could have caused it, I treat this thing like a baby, its closed with the dock when I'm not using it, when I put it away at night it goes in a case and under a sofa out the way of children and cats. Like I say 18 months in my pocket with my desire, and not a mark on it, hell I've even dropped the thing 3 or 4 times and its still perfect. Dent on the corner from one of them drops, but not a mark on the screen.
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This thread is already tired.
Gorilla glass is scratch-resistant, not scratch-proof! Take good care of your stuff and you won't have this issue.
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You made it tired.. with no idea of how well I treat it you still put you 10 cents in.
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I don't buy devices without Gorilla glass, and can say, they don't scratch easily. They WILL scratch, but it takes significant abuse in my experience.
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Yup you are right significant abuse is needed, this hasn't had that. A week old with at most 2 or 3 hours a day is not significant abuse, when its put away carefully every time I'm not using it.
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I've been using mine carefully for about 6 weeks and have no scratches. I'd chalk this up to user error. No offense.
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No Chance what so ever this is down to me, only thing I can put it down to , is that it was already like it when I got it but I didn't notice. (Generally I like my room dark cos I get massive migraines but my nephew is here so the curtains have been open so I noticed it.)
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Mine had problems with the glass too. My microfiber cloth would scratch the screen. I even took it to Best Buy and the guy carefully wiped my screen with their microfiber cloth and easily scratched the right and bottom of the screen. I took my pop bottle in my hand and wiped it with the cloth and it didn't scratch, then wiped my tfp screen with a microfiber cloth and it scratched. He even tried wiping other devices screen and couldn't manage to scratch them with the cloth. My tfp screen was a bad batch of gorilla glass or something. I rma it because it eventually had hundreds of scratches from wiping off fingerprints. The guy at Best Buy said that it definitely was not gorilla glass on my tfp.
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pbrauer said:
Instead of saying what has already been said, I am going to provide hopefully a little possible ray of hope. A lot of times instead of it actually being a scratch it is something ON the glass, which can be buffed off with some elbow grease.
Also, if it is a scratch, try this fix. Get some furniture polish and a clean cotton rag. Spray the polish on the rag and work it into the scratch. Gently rub it in the scratch, and then wipe away any excess. You may need to do this several times but it SHOULD fix the scratch as long as it is not too wide.
Finally, there is always the option of jeweler's rouge, which can be gotten at a lot of hardware stores. Follow the directions and you should be able to buff out any scratches that you have. Keep in mind, this process will take several hours, and should also be your last resort.
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In my experience (and others) this only makes it worse. The glass will get dull (lol is that english?) around the scratch, which doesn't make it much better either..
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You made it tired.. with no idea of how well I treat it you still put you 10 cents in.
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Do you want a slow clap or something? It was tired before my post.
Obviously the glass didn't scratch itself. An object that is in your care has been damaged. The only person who could be responsible is you unless you've loaned it out to someone, who you should then hold responsible.
Buck up and take ownership rather than blaming the product. I use my TF201 for about 12 hours/day in various ways. It is mostly docked with the keyboard and gets opened/closed multiple times a day and docked/undocked at least a couple times per day. I have no screen damage, but I do have a scratch on the back of the tablet itself, for which I blame nobody but myself.
I didn't choose to go out and create a new thread on XDA *****ing about the materials in the product. You did, which is your choice, but in doing so, you accept the consequences of people posting things just as I did; just like I accept the fact that I'll probably get flamed for this post. Whatever. It's not that important in the grand scheme of life.
But I will say,...I feel better having responded. So yeah...or whatever...
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Do you want a slow clap or something? It was tired before my post.
Obviously the glass didn't scratch itself. An object that is in your care has been damaged. The only person who could be responsible is you unless you've loaned it out to someone, who you should then hold responsible.
Buck up and take ownership rather than blaming the product. I use my TF201 for about 12 hours/day in various ways. It is mostly docked with the keyboard and gets opened/closed multiple times a day and docked/undocked at least a couple times per day. I have no screen damage, but I do have a scratch on the back of the tablet itself, for which I blame nobody but myself.
I didn't choose to go out and create a new thread on XDA *****ing about the materials in the product. You did, which is your choice, but in doing so, you accept the consequences of people posting things just as I did; just like I accept the fact that I'll probably get flamed for this post. Whatever. It's not that important in the grand scheme of life.
But I will say,...I feel better having responded. So yeah...or whatever...
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I have the same experience. I have no screen protector and haven't taken any special care of my device at all and my screen is still scratch free. My back is scratched at a few places though as it scratches quite easily.
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Mine had problems with the glass too. My microfiber cloth would scratch the screen. I even took it to Best Buy and the guy carefully wiped my screen with their microfiber cloth and easily scratched the right and bottom of the screen. I took my pop bottle in my hand and wiped it with the cloth and it didn't scratch, then wiped my tfp screen with a microfiber cloth and it scratched. He even tried wiping other devices screen and couldn't manage to scratch them with the cloth. My tfp screen was a bad batch of gorilla glass or something. I rma it because it eventually had hundreds of scratches from wiping off fingerprints. The guy at Best Buy said that it definitely was not gorilla glass on my tfp.
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I'm wondering now if mine TF101 has a proper Gorilla Glass because I got a lot of small scratches and one bigger one without abusing it. I'll try to scratch it in the corner when I'll be changing my screen protector.
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Im so pissed right now, thats impossible to describe. or i am the unluckiest person in the world, or this glass is a ****.
Ok, i carried the phone in my pocket without screen protector for a month, no scrachs, but now, the FIRST TIME! the phone fell down.. from about 1 meter AT MOST, on a stone floor...
IT SMASHED IN ONE THOUSAND PIECES!
how can a 100gr phone have the power to in 1meter, smash an "almost" indestructible glass? what the **** was that?
if it was scrashed, if it EVEN got a damage on the screen, but one thousand pieces?
Not to mention that i got an Otterbox...
Well im now thinking in taking a new phone, gona fix this one first.
any sugestions of a better phone? dont say sgs2, needs to be now
thanks and sorry for the angry... if anyone wants i can post a pic of the totally **** it became
Pics or it didn't happen.
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I agree with jamesd, it is like a windshield on a car, it will not shatter. Also, Gorilla glass is not indestructible, just much harder to scratch and break. go look at the website!
is there a possible it can be a refurb w/o gorila glass? gonna try to find the cam now, if i cant, i will take some pics tomorrow with my girlfriend phone
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is there a possible it can be a refurb w/o gorila glass?
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You mean just for cost reasons? Its not indestructible, but theres no doubt its better than regular glass.
Cant be scrached doesnt mean it cant be shattered. It all depends on the material's physical property. Nexus s would be ur best bet for t mobile or vibrant 4g
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what about an desire hd?
Gorilla Glass is much stronger than regular glass but is not unbreakable. It's strength also depends on how thick it is, which varies from one application to the next. If Samsung used a thinner layer either because of expense or to keep the device thinner, it may explain why these screens tend to shatter pretty easily. I will say that I've had my phone for 6 months, have never used a screen protector, and don't have a single scratch anywhere on the screen.
I dropped my phone and it got a crack. It costs $80 to repair
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the problem is that i not live in us, and this phone doesnt have support by samsung here, so i will have to buy the lcd+digitizer and fix it myself, ending in about 130 usd
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Gorilla Glass is much stronger than regular glass but is not unbreakable. It's strength also depends on how thick it is, which varies from one application to the next. If Samsung used a thinner layer either because of expense or to keep the device thinner, it may explain why these screens tend to shatter pretty easily. I will say that I've had my phone for 6 months, have never used a screen protector, and don't have a single scratch anywhere on the screen.
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+1000! Only I've had mine since release day, so, 9 months now!
I see friends phones with the screen protectors on them and no matter how good of a job you do a screen protector looks like ****!
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Dude get the nexus s, roms and over clocks are gonna be sick. plus they curved the screen a bit, so if it falls, the edges of the phone hit the floor instead of the screen.
Gorilla glass is scratch proof but not more resistant the breakage. And the fact that the glass is end to end, an impact on the side can travel to the side of the glass, where its most susceptible to breaking into pieces, like it happened to you...
I did throw my phone twice on the wall out of anger, didn't happen to my phone luckily... Ur drop must be a peculiar type directly at the weakest point... Silicon cases, ur best bet next time... I had one on when I threw the phone...
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Im so pissed right now, thats impossible to describe. or i am the unluckiest person in the world, or this glass is a ****.
Ok, i carried the phone in my pocket without screen protector for a month, no scrachs, but now, the FIRST TIME! the phone fell down.. from about 1 meter AT MOST, on a stone floor...
IT SMASHED IN ONE THOUSAND PIECES!
how can a 100gr phone have the power to in 1meter, smash an "almost" indestructible glass? what the **** was that?
if it was scrashed, if it EVEN got a damage on the screen, but one thousand pieces?
Not to mention that i got an Otterbox...
Well im now thinking in taking a new phone, gona fix this one first.
any sugestions of a better phone? dont say sgs2, needs to be now
thanks and sorry for the angry... if anyone wants i can post a pic of the totally **** it became
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Dude, Gorilla glass is a mix-design that makes the glass surface very hard and the material 3 times more flexible than normal glass........BUT.... it still is glass and if you drop any glass and it hits just right .....the glass breaks. Since this type of glass is also a tempered variety when it breaks it shatters.
Me ? I have dropped my phone from 10 feet and nothing so, I ll chalk it up to you being lucky........or unlucky I should say............
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Gorilla glass is scratch proof but not more resistant the breakage. And the fact that the glass is end to end, an impact on the side can travel to the side of the glass, where its most susceptible to breaking into pieces, like it happened to you...
I did throw my phone twice on the wall out of anger, didn't happen to my phone luckily... Ur drop must be a peculiar type directly at the weakest point... Silicon cases, ur best bet next time... I had one on when I threw the phone...
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You threw you vibrant not one but two times on the wall and still it survived while this guy only dropped it once and always kept it safe yet had it shatter to pieces with the first unfortunate accident.
What a cruel world.
So apparently I lent the tablet to my sister to get the hang of it (I know what they say about women and technology) but yeah soon to regret, After cleaning up and making the screen all shiny I noticed a rather long 1" scratch on the screen, I thought it was something that a little damp cloth can wipe off turns out it's actually scratched the screen. I've never dropped the tablet but I can't say the same when women handle it (No offense ladies, if ever)
I wouldn't mind if the sides got dented, but that 1" of deep scratch shattered my heart to pieces. So question is, I thought the glass was GorillaGlass, dafuq samsung? I've had a 3Gs for almost a year or more, and there isn't a single dent/scratch on that screen despite the heavy usage on it, same with my 8 month old Galaxy S.
They say it's Gorilla Glass, but what's that really mean?
Just wondering if she wears any rings, such as diamonds? Maybe it got dragged across the screen. Just a thought or do you know what caused it already?
Really sorry to hear, cause I would be going nuts about it. Not at her per say, but just having that scratch would make me nuts.
Just another quick thought. If it was for her to get used to, I would ask for hers before she scratches it. Surely have yours convinced her she can't live without her own.
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So apparently I lent the tablet to my sister to get the hang of it (I know what they say about women and technology) but yeah soon to regret, After cleaning up and making the screen all shiny I noticed a rather long 1" scratch on the screen, I thought it was something that a little damp cloth can wipe off turns out it's actually scratched the screen. I've never dropped the tablet but I can't say the same when women handle it (No offense ladies, if ever)
I wouldn't mind if the sides got dented, but that 1" of deep scratch shattered my heart to pieces. So question is, I thought the glass was GorillaGlass, dafuq samsung? I've had a 3Gs for almost a year or more, and there isn't a single dent/scratch on that screen despite the heavy usage on it, same with my 8 month old Galaxy S.
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*grumble. the thanks button is way too close to the quote button....
It's gorrilla glass, but unfortunately, it's made of glass, not gorrillas. But yes, it's the same stuff as used in lots of consumer electronics. Ask Du Pont if you want more info. Scratch resistant, not scratch proof...
Misledz said:
So apparently I lent the tablet to my sister to get the hang of it (I know what they say about women and technology) but yeah soon to regret, After cleaning up and making the screen all shiny I noticed a rather long 1" scratch on the screen, I thought it was something that a little damp cloth can wipe off turns out it's actually scratched the screen. I've never dropped the tablet but I can't say the same when women handle it (No offense ladies, if ever)
I wouldn't mind if the sides got dented, but that 1" of deep scratch shattered my heart to pieces. So question is, I thought the glass was GorillaGlass, dafuq samsung? I've had a 3Gs for almost a year or more, and there isn't a single dent/scratch on that screen despite the heavy usage on it, same with my 8 month old Galaxy S.
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Yes, it's gorilla glass. Yes, it's resistant to scratches. No, it's not immune to them. It WILL get scratched if you chop your vegetables on it, it will get broken if you drop it from 2 meters, it will look like Swiss cheese if you shot at it with a minigun.
On a more realistic note, it can also get scratched by diamond rings, by putting it on the floor/table face-down, by pulling it in and out of a tight case if some sand somehow gets in the case, ...
Lending my device to other people is why I always have it in a case and why I have a screen protector on it.
If you're sure your sister is the one who made the scratch, and she is buying her own one, I'd ask her to trade the devices or something.
There are also some products around that claim they can remove scratches, but I don't have any experience with them.
Putting a screen protector on might just change the flow of light in a way that'll hide the scratch, but it can also do it in a way that'll make it even more visible/annoying. I believe The Invisible Shield was also said to be very good with hiding scratches, some people say that you can barely see any big scratches after it's on for a week or two. But again, no experience with that so I can't really say...
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Yes, it's gorilla glass. Yes, it's resistant to scratches. No, it's not immune to them. It WILL get scratched if you chop your vegetables on it, it will get broken if you drop it from 2 meters, it will look like Swiss cheese if you shot at it with a minigun.
On a more realistic note, it can also get scratched by diamond rings, by putting it on the floor/table face-down, by pulling it in and out of a tight case if some sand somehow gets in the case, ...
Lending my device to other people is why I always have it in a case and why I have a screen protector on it.
If you're sure your sister is the one who made the scratch, and she is buying her own one, I'd ask her to trade the devices or something.
There are also some products around that claim they can remove scratches, but I don't have any experience with them.
Putting a screen protector on might just change the flow of light in a way that'll hide the scratch, but it can also do it in a way that'll make it even more visible/annoying. I believe The Invisible Shield was also said to be very good with hiding scratches, some people say that you can barely see any big scratches after it's on for a week or two. But again, no experience with that so I can't really say...
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I'd love to put on a screen protector but it kinda kills the whole idea of "Gorilla Glass" I don't know if you watched the initial release before the 2G iPhone came out and they kept talking about how Gorilla Glass was one of the best inventions and so the praise went on, the had some live demo's and it was amazing (2 years ago). I don't really know if the glass on the tablet is not thick enough? or it's just a really thin glass pane? I do appreciate the feedback and thank you @slack for the free "thanks" hahaha, then again I too have a leather case (for the 7510 series) but people often mistake it for "ZOMG IS DAT AN IPAD?" and that disappointment on apple sheeps when you tell them it's a Galaxy Tab, they go like, "what's that?"..*FLIP TABLES AND *****
Putting on a protective screen is like wearing a condom while attempting to get a woman knocked up or better yet, giving a bulletproof vest to a tank, Best example I could think of so far, sorry . I'm not dissing android but putting on screen protects kinda adds another layer at which the device makes it harder to read your "touch" or electric impulses are they call it, I had one that came free with my initial Galaxy S and it was horrible, worst thing ever. Touch was less responsive and you had to press it hard enough like them old school vending machines.
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I'd love to put on a screen protector but it kinda kills the whole idea of "Gorilla Glass" I don't know if you watched the initial release before the 2G iPhone came out and they kept talking about how Gorilla Glass was one of the best inventions and so the praise went on, the had some live demo's and it was amazing (2 years ago). I don't really know if the glass on the tablet is not thick enough? or it's just a really thin glass pane? I do appreciate the feedback and thank you @slack for the free "thanks" hahaha, then again I too have a leather case (for the 7510 series) but people often mistake it for "ZOMG IS DAT AN IPAD?" and that disappointment on apple sheeps when you tell them it's a Galaxy Tab, they go like, "what's that?"..*FLIP TABLES AND *****
Putting on a protective screen is like wearing a condom while attempting to get a woman knocked up or better yet, giving a bulletproof vest to a tank, Best example I could think of so far, sorry . I'm not dissing android but putting on screen protects kinda adds another layer at which the device makes it harder to read your "touch" or electric impulses are they call it, I had one that came free with my initial Galaxy S and it was horrible, worst thing ever. Touch was less responsive and you had to press it hard enough like them old school vending machines.
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Yes, I've watched a lot of stuff about gorilla glass, but I've also done some live testing at my university (we got a batch of pieces to compare it to normal glass). I even have the specific results somewhere ...
All in all yes, it's a great improvement. It is seriously resistant to scratches, it's much much (and I mean MUCH) harder to break, but still, it isn't perfect.
I wouldn't say your bulletproof vest - tank example is completely appropriate here, since a bullet shot at a tank wouldn't compromise the tanks usability (at least not mostly, there are some extreme cases when it might, but let's leave that stuff to Hollywood) - but a scratch on the screen of a tablet definitely would. And a screen protector does help against scratches from diamond rings.
I have an Ultra Crystal SGP and I haven't noticed the screen responsiveness to lower. The only thing that is bad about it is that it gets dirtier faster and seems to reflect light a bit more. I also don't have to press any harder then I had to without the protector, as soon as I touch it (actually a little bit before ) the touch is recognised. If you feel your screen responsiveness diminishes, you can also applications to raise the "touchscreen sensitivity".
Thanks for the feedback mate, once again
I might think about getting one of those "Armor" screen protectors. Hopefully when sharing the tablet among family or friends I can atleast be assured the tablet is safe.
Diamond ring would do it if someone brushed the screen with back of their hand
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I'd love to put on a screen protector but it kinda kills the whole idea of "Gorilla Glass" .
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Disagree, Mate, I have a Zagg protector and a case as well. For the expense of a 32GB 10.1, I'm not about to risk damage. Other poster is right: it is made of glass afterall not gorillas.
Also, like another thing best kept covered; there's very little loss of sensitivity when its covered.
Don't be penny wise and pound foolish.
Cheers lads!
Im usually not a fan of screen protectors on my phones but when i bought my tab at best buy they had the zagg invisibleshield for $15. It wasnt easy to put on and it looked pretty bad at first but once it dried out It pretty much disappeared. I dont even notice it anymore. A 10" screen is bound to get scratched up. Im glad i did it.
I got a scratch on my screen, and It had to be a scratch because I couldn't wipe it off even with a few different cleaners.
A few months later - the scratch is gone!!!
Yes, I'm saying it healed itself. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I have a scratch that just appeared on my Tab... I am the only one who uses it, and I keep it in a cover, didnt put the screen just to get mad, ordered one today..., 1 question: is it realy Gorila GLASS?, I dont think so!
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Having a screen protector does defeat the purpose of the gorilla glass. However, I would rather have that extra measure of protection and just replace the screen protector every few months.
I wonder how much does a replacement screen cost from the local showrooms?
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I wonder how much does a replacement screen cost from the local showrooms?
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I am waiting for a price quote I asked for, when I get it I'll share it. It will be for the Portuguese market but anyways a reference price...
i use a screen 'protector' but really it is more of an anti glare filter
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Having a screen protector does defeat the purpose of the gorilla glass. However, I would rather have that extra measure of protection and just replace the screen protector every few months.
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i use a screen 'protector' but really it is more of an anti glare filter
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That as well
Used to have an invisibleSheild on an older phone but I hated the feel of the thing. Feels rubery, very unpleaseant!
I don't know for other brands but I'd realy go for something that repels the finger prints... I always have to clean the thing :|
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Used to have an invisibleSheild on an older phone but I hated the feel of the thing. Feels rubery, very unpleaseant!
I don't know for other brands but I'd realy go for something that repels the finger prints... I always have to clean the thing :|
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I was about to say that, as good as it protects, it's more like a condom on the phone, a dry one.
What ticks me off about it is when you sweat through your jeans the whole screen becomes a mess and the phone (The one I had it on) could barely read my touch.
Ok so I tried searching but couldn't find anything, though I'm sure someone asked before.
I've read conflicting reports on weather or not the att version of the gs2 has gorilla glass.
Can anyone confirm that it does? do any of you that have had the phone a while see many scratches?
I have the captivate and am blown away at the fact that this thing is nearly scratch proof. I just want to make sure the gs2 has it. Also do you know if the sky rocket has it? which phone do you guys recommend.
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A trip to the Samsung site to look at the specs would have told you the answer.
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Ok so I tried searching but couldn't find anything, though I'm sure someone asked before.
I've read conflicting reports on weather or not the att version of the gs2 has gorilla glass.
Can anyone confirm that it does? do any of you that have had the phone a while see many scratches?
I have the captivate and am blown away at the fact that this thing is nearly scratch proof. I just want to make sure the gs2 has it. Also do you know if the sky rocket has it? which phone do you guys recommend.
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It says it does, but to be honest to me it seems like it doesn't, mine already has scratches in it, but then again maybe without it it would be way worse...
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It says it does, but to be honest to me it seems like it doesn't, mine already has scratches in it, but then again maybe without it it would be way worse...
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Gorilla glass does nothing as far as preventing scratches, the glass is to prevent cracking when dropped so it doesn't look like an ifail that hit the ground from 2 feet.
Its anti scratch not scratch resistant. its glass, it will scratch eventually.
Yes it has gorilla glass, and it is very scratch resistant. I've had mine for around four months and the screen still looks like it did when I got it.
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yoderk said:
Gorilla glass does nothing as far as preventing scratches, the glass is to prevent cracking when dropped so it doesn't look like an ifail that hit the ground from 2 feet.
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You might want to check what gorilla glass does or doesn't, it's scratch resistant as well as tougher overall.
the iDevices also use corning
And now that i think about it, the scratches i'm seeing might be to the oleo-phobic layer and not the glass itself.
jsolares said:
You might want to check what gorilla glass does or doesn't, it's scratch resistant as well as tougher overall.
the iDevices also use corning
And now that i think about it, the scratches i'm seeing might be to the oleo-phobic layer and not the glass itself.
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Fairly sure the idevices are going to use corning, but haven't yet
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Its anti scratch not scratch resistant. its glass, it will scratch eventually.
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I think you got that backwards.
I don't know if its actually "gorilla" glass. But I dropped my phone from about 4ft and it landed screen down on cement. Only damage was a few knicks out of the plastic edges, but the screen is completely intact. Its also survived in my pocket with my car keys and a few other nasty drops.
There's a great youtube video online of the SGII vs the Iphone 4s in a drop test from a couple of feet on concrete. The SGII does well whereas the Iphone has numerous cracks
According to Gorilla Glass reps it's pretty safe from scratches from more "organized" objects. Like metal keys, knife in the demo, stuff like that. But they say randomly assembled things like rocks, concrete, asphalts etc will scratch it. There's a YouTube video floating around.
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I don't know if its actually "gorilla" glass. But I dropped my phone from about 4ft and it landed screen down on cement. Only damage was a few knicks out of the plastic edges, but the screen is completely intact. Its also survived in my pocket with my car keys and a few other nasty drops.
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Samsung phones are tough little buggers.
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Here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
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I think the main difference is the iPhone has quite a big part of the screen edge completely unprotected whereas the SGSII doesn't.
I wonder how an iPhone with those bumpers cases would do.
I see so many shattered iPhones and iPod Touchs come in at work for repair I don't know why the hell parents are still buying these for their 12 year old kids heh. We have stone tile flooring in our house. I passed out on the couch the other night with my gs2 in my lap and it took a dive screen down. Still looks good as new. An iPhone wouldn't have been so lucky.
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just to clarify from previous posts, the iphones/ipods do indeed have corning glass which can be pretty safely assumed to be gorilla glass based on numerous articles including this one here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/02/apple-name-drops-corning-as-iphone-glass-manufacturer-we-feign/
also, i can't remember exactly where i read the article but i believe that apple basically invented the use for gorilla glass. i believe it was in the new york times or something or other in an article about the steve jobs biography which explained how corning initially approached apple about using this new highly scratch and shatter-resistant glass they had just developed but had no idea what use it could have.
the iphone at that point was due to launch in 6 months or so and corning insisted that the glass wasn't going to be ready yet but steve jobs being steve jobs pushed them hard to get it ready in time. so up until only 6-9 months before release the iphone prototypes had all used plastic screens.
don't quote me on any of this but if my memory serves me correctly this is roughly the story they reported
hurley81388 said:
just to clarify from previous posts, the iphones/ipods do indeed have corning glass which can be pretty safely assumed to be gorilla glass based on numerous articles including this one here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/02/apple-name-drops-corning-as-iphone-glass-manufacturer-we-feign/
also, i can't remember exactly where i read the article but i believe that apple basically invented the use for gorilla glass. i believe it was in the new york times or something or other in an article about the steve jobs biography which explained how corning initially approached apple about using this new highly scratch and shatter-resistant glass they had just developed but had no idea what use it could have.
the iphone at that point was due to launch in 6 months or so and corning insisted that the glass wasn't going to be ready yet but steve jobs being steve jobs pushed them hard to get it ready in time. so up until only 6-9 months before release the iphone prototypes had all used plastic screens.
don't quote me on any of this but if my memory serves me correctly this is roughly the story they reported
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**** Apple and their over-glorified app launcher they call an OS.
hurley81388 said:
just to clarify from previous posts, the iphones/ipods do indeed have corning glass which can be pretty safely assumed to be gorilla glass based on numerous articles including this one here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/02/apple-name-drops-corning-as-iphone-glass-manufacturer-we-feign/
also, i can't remember exactly where i read the article but i believe that apple basically invented the use for gorilla glass. i believe it was in the new york times or something or other in an article about the steve jobs biography which explained how corning initially approached apple about using this new highly scratch and shatter-resistant glass they had just developed but had no idea what use it could have.
the iphone at that point was due to launch in 6 months or so and corning insisted that the glass wasn't going to be ready yet but steve jobs being steve jobs pushed them hard to get it ready in time. so up until only 6-9 months before release the iphone prototypes had all used plastic screens.
don't quote me on any of this but if my memory serves me correctly this is roughly the story they reported
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Partially correct, I think. Yes, i-phones do have corning glass (gorilla glass, even if not by name). No, it wasn't invented for apple. Corning invented it in the 60s, but couldn't find a use for it until Jobs called looking for something better after getting frustrated with scratches on his plastic-screened prototype. Corning proposed the product as a solution (not yet branded gorilla,as I recall), then did indeed have to scramble to get it produced on a short timeline.
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**** Apple and their over-glorified app launcher they call an OS.
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Even worse they're dumbing down the once awesome Mac OS to act more like IOS. Thank God my Mac Pro wont be supported when 10.8 comes out.. 10.7 is bad enough..
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Reason i ask is, i recently swapped out my first GNote for a second to see if the replacement would get better benchmark numbers and on the second day of ownership i managed to scratch the screen. I remember that Megiures has a plastic polish to remove scratches from convertible top windows that are plastic. Versus taking this one back for a new one (BB black tie), I wanted to try and remove the scratches.
Any thoughts or experiences you may have is welcomed.
Thanks!
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The screen is glass. I doubt a plastic polish would do much of anything. I don't remember where but there was a glass polish posted somewhere that apparently works well.
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Gorilla glass is a alkali-aluminosilicate glass, which is just fancy talk for chemically treated glass, so any plastic methods may or may not work, depending on how they work. I came from the Samsung Vibrant which has GG and I remembered this thread on XDA. It’s far beyond just a small scratch and the fix isn’t perfect, but it shows what can be done. There are down sides to doing this obviously.
As for the swap, I’ve ran into the same situation before and encountered snags. I went to exchange BB for a palm phone for a BB. The palm I had wouldn’t connect to BT in my car, refused to sync regularly, and a host of other problems. Well it has a small knick in the corner so they said they couldn’t exchange it for a BB. So I told them fine, I want a new one because this one doesn’t work right. They upheld their end of the bargain and did the exchange. I walked outside, attempted to connect to BT which I knew it would fail as it was a known issue, and took it right back in and said “id like to exchange this unscratched like new phone for a BB”. They had no room to move because I was following the rules this time. So moral of the story, you may have to exchange for a new Note then trade for a BB based on the new unscratched note not performing. It’s a long PITA, and be ready to argue about those restocking charges that AT&T love to charge.
Chief Geek said:
Gorilla glass is a alkali-aluminosilicate glass, which is just fancy talk for chemically treated glass, so any plastic methods may or may not work, depending on how they work. I came from the Samsung Vibrant which has GG and I remembered this thread on XDA. It’s far beyond just a small scratch and the fix isn’t perfect, but it shows what can be done. There are down sides to doing this obviously.
As for the swap, I’ve ran into the same situation before and encountered snags. I went to exchange BB for a palm phone for a BB. The palm I had wouldn’t connect to BT in my car, refused to sync regularly, and a host of other problems. Well it has a small knick in the corner so they said they couldn’t exchange it for a BB. So I told them fine, I want a new one because this one doesn’t work right. They upheld their end of the bargain and did the exchange. I walked outside, attempted to connect to BT which I knew it would fail as it was a known issue, and took it right back in and said “id like to exchange this unscratched like new phone for a BB”. They had no room to move because I was following the rules this time. So moral of the story, you may have to exchange for a new Note then trade for a BB based on the new unscratched note not performing. It’s a long PITA, and be ready to argue about those restocking charges that AT&T love to charge.
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I think he meant BB as in Best Buy, not Blackberry, not that it really matters. And thanks for posting the link to that thread, I knew it was around one of the galaxy forums, just didn't remember which one.
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welchertc said:
I think he meant BB as in Best Buy, not Blackberry, not that it really matters. And thanks for posting the link to that thread, I knew it was around one of the galaxy forums, just didn't remember which one.
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Ahh, I see, just assumed the Black Tie was a recent BlackBerry release, I avoid best buy at all costs so I'm not up on their lingo.
dakleenupman said:
Reason i ask is, i recently swapped out my first GNote for a second to see if the replacement would get better benchmark numbers and on the second day of ownership i managed to scratch the screen. I remember that Megiures has a plastic polish to remove scratches from convertible top windows that are plastic. Versus taking this one back for a new one (BB black tie), I wanted to try and remove the scratches.
Any thoughts or experiences you may have is welcomed.
Thanks!
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I've done some research on this and there's really no way to remove visible glass scratches. HOWEVER, often times if the scratch isn't too deep your average screen protector will 'seal' the scratch (fill it with the thin film of adhesive coating that most of them come with). I imagine this would also be true of the glass type protectors.
It depends on how deep the scratch is, but when I put a hairline scratch on my iPhone 4 a good clear screen protector 'erased' it and I'd forgotten it was there until I pulled it off recently.
billzilla2000 said:
I've done some research on this and there's really no way to remove visible glass scratches. HOWEVER, often times if the scratch isn't too deep your average screen protector will 'seal' the scratch (fill it with the thin film of adhesive coating that most of them come with). I imagine this would also be true of the glass type protectors.
It depends on how deep the scratch is, but when I put a hairline scratch on my iPhone 4 a good clear screen protector 'erased' it and I'd forgotten it was there until I pulled it off recently.
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The reason it seems to fill it is actually quite the oppisite. A small scratch is actually difficult to see. It's when it collects dirt and grime that it really starts screaming at you. Buy cleaning the screen (always first step in applying SP), you are effectivly minimizing the gunk in it, then preventing any future gunk plus applying a surface for eyes to gravitate to rather then the scratch. This helped alot on my ipod touch which saw alot of abuse getting passed around to the wife and other people playing with it in the living room.
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Gorilla glass is a alkali-aluminosilicate glass, which is just fancy talk for chemically treated glass, so any plastic methods may or may not work, depending on how they work. I came from the Samsung Vibrant which has GG and I remembered this thread on XDA. It’s far beyond just a small scratch and the fix isn’t perfect, but it shows what can be done. There are down sides to doing this obviously.
As for the swap, I’ve ran into the same situation before and encountered snags. I went to exchange BB for a palm phone for a BB. The palm I had wouldn’t connect to BT in my car, refused to sync regularly, and a host of other problems. Well it has a small knick in the corner so they said they couldn’t exchange it for a BB. So I told them fine, I want a new one because this one doesn’t work right. They upheld their end of the bargain and did the exchange. I walked outside, attempted to connect to BT which I knew it would fail as it was a known issue, and took it right back in and said “id like to exchange this unscratched like new phone for a BB”. They had no room to move because I was following the rules this time. So moral of the story, you may have to exchange for a new Note then trade for a BB based on the new unscratched note not performing. It’s a long PITA, and be ready to argue about those restocking charges that AT&T love to charge.
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Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I will not be doing what was suggested on that post. For all that, I might as well just return and exchange.
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dakleenupman said:
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I will not be doing what was suggested on that post. For all that, I might as well just return and exchange.
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No offense to you, or anything, but that seems EXTREMELY unethical to switch out a $600 phone just because you scratched it... there's no reason to return it, you are the one that scratched it....
pl0xn00b said:
No offense to you, or anything, but that seems EXTREMELY unethical to switch out a $600 phone just because you scratched it... there's no reason to return it, you are the one that scratched it....
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Lots of people on here for some reason think AT&T owes them an exchange for their own ignorance.
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The reason it seems to fill it is actually quite the oppisite. A small scratch is actually difficult to see. It's when it collects dirt and grime that it really starts screaming at you. Buy cleaning the screen (always first step in applying SP), you are effectivly minimizing the gunk in it, then preventing any future gunk plus applying a surface for eyes to gravitate to rather then the scratch. This helped alot on my ipod touch which saw alot of abuse getting passed around to the wife and other people playing with it in the living room.
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Cleaning prior to applying a SP is good advice, but I'm not talking about grime in a scratch. You can see some glass scratches regardless of dirt (whether it's on the surface in good light or deep enough to see with the display on).
After the screen is cleaned, the adhesive coating of the screen protector fills the small furrow so your eye doesn't see the light being diffracted by the edges that have been etched (scratched) into the glass. The general concept is used to 'fix' larger glass cracks and chips with epoxy/resin when replacing the whole thing is not possible or worthwhile.
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No offense to you, or anything, but that seems EXTREMELY unethical to switch out a $600 phone just because you scratched it... there's no reason to return it, you are the one that scratched it....
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I completely agree with you. But since im paying Best Buy per month for accidental coverage snd they offer it full well knowing things like this occur, ill gladly get my moneys worth.
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It's only been a month since I bought my S3. I have 5-6 very tiny scratches on my screen which are easily visible in bright light. :crying:
It's like a group of scratches at the bottom center of my screen. I am still trying to figure out how I got them. I can assure you that I am not responsible for these scratches. :crying:
I have treated my phone with respect and yet it has developed these scratches. I have never dropped my phone. I have never kept it face-down on any surface.
The funny part is that the back cover on the Samsung Galaxy S3 sucks as well. Its got tiny scratches all over even though I have never ever kept the phone on any surface without keeping a micro-fiber cloth under the phone!
The only possible explanation for the scratches can be dust. Can I claim warranty on the phone since the screen is supposed to be scratch resistant?
I am super sad now
A few fine sand particles against the glass in a pocket will do more than two sets of keys.
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Read the waranty card, such normal wear and tear are not covered in the waratnty....
are you allergic to a screen protector and a back cover??
Normal glass won't even scratch if you take a key to it. Sand particles are what gets you.
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If you can't put a screen protector on a $700 phone then you should reconsider the decision of owning a smartphone.
Tip: get a back tpu case as well.
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Read the waranty card, such normal wear and tear are not covered in the waratnty....
are you allergic to a screen protector and a back cover??
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I am not allergic to either. The problem is that I ordered the TRIDEA ALIKE case on 8th June from ebay but there were some manufacturing problems and the case delivery got delayed. It should be here in a weeks time. There are no decent screen protectors available in the local market. The ones that are available on ebay will take 2 weeks to be delivered to my country. With the case still not delivered, I am still contemplating about ordering a screen protector online or waiting for it to hit the stores.
f you can't put a screen protector on a $700 phone then you should reconsider the decision of owning a smartphone.
Tip: get a back tpu case as well.
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No one in their right senses would think of not putting a screen protector on a costly phone. Like I said, I was waiting for some screen protectors to hit the local markets since I already had a bad experience with shopping for a case online. I ordered it a month back and it's still not here.
I heard that the Galaxy s3 comes with an additional coating that repels oil. Could it be possible that I have only scratched this coating and not the actual glass. If yes, how can I tell the difference?
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No one in their right senses would think of not putting a screen protector on a costly phone.
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Speak for yourself sunshine. My senses are where they should be, and I never have nor never will use a screen protector.
As posted elsewhere, got my first scratch last week, sand was the culprit, my fault though. Doesn't worry me. Sure I'll get a few more. Such is life.
Speak for yourself sunshine
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Sorry if I have offended you. :angel:
Looks like you have a lot of phones to not be worried about the scratches
@ white_android, Your not getting any Sympathy from me and besides, it takes a certain kind of individual with your type of courage to advertise their COMPLETE STUPIDITY !
Case in point !
No where in your first post did you say that you took precautions to protect your $500+ high tech toy ! It almost sounds like your blaming Samsung for your stupidity and you wanted support from other users here !
ISN'T HAPPENING DUDE !
@phoenix
What makes you think I am stupid? I have had 2 phones with gorilla glass before I got my s3 and none of them got a single scratch on them ever. I started using a screen protector when my phones were a couple of months old since its human nature to not care much about old things.
I was waiting for a good screen protector to be available in the local stores because I only just got the phone and thought It was okay to wait for sometime before I get a screen protector. I had no idea the S3 screen was going to be this delicate.
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It's only been a month since I bought my S3. I have 5-6 very tiny scratches on my screen which are easily visible in bright light. :crying:
It's like a group of scratches at the bottom center of my screen. I am still trying to figure out how I got them. I can assure you that I am not responsible for these scratches. :crying:
I have treated my phone with respect and yet it has developed these scratches. I have never dropped my phone. I have never kept it face-down on any surface.
The funny part is that the back cover on the Samsung Galaxy S3 sucks as well. Its got tiny scratches all over even though I have never ever kept the phone on any surface without keeping a micro-fiber cloth under the phone!
The only possible explanation for the scratches can be dust. Can I claim warranty on the phone since the screen is supposed to be scratch resistant?
I am super sad now
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If I was in your situation, I would not use the phone untill I get screen guard.
Every screen gets scratches even if its scratch resistance.
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Scratches don't affect the functionality of the device. Suck it up.
Also, scratch resistant not scratch PROOF.
If I was in your situation, I would not use the phone untill I get screen guard.
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What screen protector do you recommend. Something that I can get quickly and has good quality. I know SGP makes the best ones but are they available in India. Ordering online means having to wait a very long time for the shipping! ;(
Scratches don't affect the functionality of the device. Suck it up.
My first reaction when I saw the scratches was "here we go" with a deep breath! . I am still feeling sad but I hope these are the last scratches I get on this awesome phone.
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white_android said:
Sorry if I have offended you. :angel:
Looks like you have a lot of phones to not be worried about the scratches
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1 SGS1, unscratched. 3 SGS2s, one with small scratch on screen and many chips in bezel, one with totally smashed screen (tram ran over it), one unscratched. 1 SGS3, tiny scratch on screen. 1 Lumia 800, unscratched (unused, to tell the truth).
I can barely see the scratch on the SGS3, it's ca. 3mm long, upper right of screen. And as said, since it was my fault for taking it to a beach, that's even less reason to beat myself up about it.
Screenguards seem to be the way forward for you. I just don't care enough - phone's for using, and I can't be bothered with the hassle of "babysitting" it instead of using it.
Resale value!
I just don't care enough - phone's for using, and I can't be bothered with the hassle of "babysitting" it instead of using it.
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That makes sense. I hate the fact that I have to treat my phone like a living thing. I am only going to do this to get a good resale value on my phone when I decide to upgrade just like i did with my older phones.
Anyway, does anyone have the answer to my question. How can i tell whether i scratched the screen or the coating!
Scratch resistant =/= scratch proof.
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Going on 3 weeks with my S3 and no scratches at all, anywhere. No screen protector or case, have never really liked them. Phone spends the whole day in my pocket or screen side down on my bed side at night and is holding up quite well for now :fingers-crossed:
I find a screen protector is the equivalent of wearing a condom during sex.... .
I don't wear a condom either.... I am married mind.
B3311 said:
Speak for yourself sunshine. My senses are where they should be, and I never have nor never will use a screen protector.
As posted elsewhere, got my first scratch last week, sand was the culprit, my fault though. Doesn't worry me. Sure I'll get a few more. Such is life.
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I agree. I hate screen protectors and it killed me to spend $13 for the Rearth case for this phone lol
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adamhill212 said:
Going on 3 weeks with my S3 and no scratches at all, anywhere. No screen protector or case, have never really liked them. Phone spends the whole day in my pocket or screen side down on my bed side at night and is holding up quite well for now :fingers-crossed:
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In fairness, mine hasn't lasted the last 3 days on the beach.. It was hidden in my bag but sand gets everywhere. A few small scratches, but so be it my phone is staying naked.