Ok so I tried searching but couldn't find anything, though I'm sure someone asked before.
I've read conflicting reports on weather or not the att version of the gs2 has gorilla glass.
Can anyone confirm that it does? do any of you that have had the phone a while see many scratches?
I have the captivate and am blown away at the fact that this thing is nearly scratch proof. I just want to make sure the gs2 has it. Also do you know if the sky rocket has it? which phone do you guys recommend.
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A trip to the Samsung site to look at the specs would have told you the answer.
artvandalay22222 said:
Ok so I tried searching but couldn't find anything, though I'm sure someone asked before.
I've read conflicting reports on weather or not the att version of the gs2 has gorilla glass.
Can anyone confirm that it does? do any of you that have had the phone a while see many scratches?
I have the captivate and am blown away at the fact that this thing is nearly scratch proof. I just want to make sure the gs2 has it. Also do you know if the sky rocket has it? which phone do you guys recommend.
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It says it does, but to be honest to me it seems like it doesn't, mine already has scratches in it, but then again maybe without it it would be way worse...
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It says it does, but to be honest to me it seems like it doesn't, mine already has scratches in it, but then again maybe without it it would be way worse...
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Gorilla glass does nothing as far as preventing scratches, the glass is to prevent cracking when dropped so it doesn't look like an ifail that hit the ground from 2 feet.
Its anti scratch not scratch resistant. its glass, it will scratch eventually.
Yes it has gorilla glass, and it is very scratch resistant. I've had mine for around four months and the screen still looks like it did when I got it.
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Gorilla glass does nothing as far as preventing scratches, the glass is to prevent cracking when dropped so it doesn't look like an ifail that hit the ground from 2 feet.
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You might want to check what gorilla glass does or doesn't, it's scratch resistant as well as tougher overall.
the iDevices also use corning
And now that i think about it, the scratches i'm seeing might be to the oleo-phobic layer and not the glass itself.
jsolares said:
You might want to check what gorilla glass does or doesn't, it's scratch resistant as well as tougher overall.
the iDevices also use corning
And now that i think about it, the scratches i'm seeing might be to the oleo-phobic layer and not the glass itself.
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Fairly sure the idevices are going to use corning, but haven't yet
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Its anti scratch not scratch resistant. its glass, it will scratch eventually.
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I think you got that backwards.
I don't know if its actually "gorilla" glass. But I dropped my phone from about 4ft and it landed screen down on cement. Only damage was a few knicks out of the plastic edges, but the screen is completely intact. Its also survived in my pocket with my car keys and a few other nasty drops.
There's a great youtube video online of the SGII vs the Iphone 4s in a drop test from a couple of feet on concrete. The SGII does well whereas the Iphone has numerous cracks
According to Gorilla Glass reps it's pretty safe from scratches from more "organized" objects. Like metal keys, knife in the demo, stuff like that. But they say randomly assembled things like rocks, concrete, asphalts etc will scratch it. There's a YouTube video floating around.
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I don't know if its actually "gorilla" glass. But I dropped my phone from about 4ft and it landed screen down on cement. Only damage was a few knicks out of the plastic edges, but the screen is completely intact. Its also survived in my pocket with my car keys and a few other nasty drops.
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Samsung phones are tough little buggers.
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I think the main difference is the iPhone has quite a big part of the screen edge completely unprotected whereas the SGSII doesn't.
I wonder how an iPhone with those bumpers cases would do.
I see so many shattered iPhones and iPod Touchs come in at work for repair I don't know why the hell parents are still buying these for their 12 year old kids heh. We have stone tile flooring in our house. I passed out on the couch the other night with my gs2 in my lap and it took a dive screen down. Still looks good as new. An iPhone wouldn't have been so lucky.
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just to clarify from previous posts, the iphones/ipods do indeed have corning glass which can be pretty safely assumed to be gorilla glass based on numerous articles including this one here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/02/apple-name-drops-corning-as-iphone-glass-manufacturer-we-feign/
also, i can't remember exactly where i read the article but i believe that apple basically invented the use for gorilla glass. i believe it was in the new york times or something or other in an article about the steve jobs biography which explained how corning initially approached apple about using this new highly scratch and shatter-resistant glass they had just developed but had no idea what use it could have.
the iphone at that point was due to launch in 6 months or so and corning insisted that the glass wasn't going to be ready yet but steve jobs being steve jobs pushed them hard to get it ready in time. so up until only 6-9 months before release the iphone prototypes had all used plastic screens.
don't quote me on any of this but if my memory serves me correctly this is roughly the story they reported
hurley81388 said:
just to clarify from previous posts, the iphones/ipods do indeed have corning glass which can be pretty safely assumed to be gorilla glass based on numerous articles including this one here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/02/apple-name-drops-corning-as-iphone-glass-manufacturer-we-feign/
also, i can't remember exactly where i read the article but i believe that apple basically invented the use for gorilla glass. i believe it was in the new york times or something or other in an article about the steve jobs biography which explained how corning initially approached apple about using this new highly scratch and shatter-resistant glass they had just developed but had no idea what use it could have.
the iphone at that point was due to launch in 6 months or so and corning insisted that the glass wasn't going to be ready yet but steve jobs being steve jobs pushed them hard to get it ready in time. so up until only 6-9 months before release the iphone prototypes had all used plastic screens.
don't quote me on any of this but if my memory serves me correctly this is roughly the story they reported
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**** Apple and their over-glorified app launcher they call an OS.
hurley81388 said:
just to clarify from previous posts, the iphones/ipods do indeed have corning glass which can be pretty safely assumed to be gorilla glass based on numerous articles including this one here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/02/apple-name-drops-corning-as-iphone-glass-manufacturer-we-feign/
also, i can't remember exactly where i read the article but i believe that apple basically invented the use for gorilla glass. i believe it was in the new york times or something or other in an article about the steve jobs biography which explained how corning initially approached apple about using this new highly scratch and shatter-resistant glass they had just developed but had no idea what use it could have.
the iphone at that point was due to launch in 6 months or so and corning insisted that the glass wasn't going to be ready yet but steve jobs being steve jobs pushed them hard to get it ready in time. so up until only 6-9 months before release the iphone prototypes had all used plastic screens.
don't quote me on any of this but if my memory serves me correctly this is roughly the story they reported
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Partially correct, I think. Yes, i-phones do have corning glass (gorilla glass, even if not by name). No, it wasn't invented for apple. Corning invented it in the 60s, but couldn't find a use for it until Jobs called looking for something better after getting frustrated with scratches on his plastic-screened prototype. Corning proposed the product as a solution (not yet branded gorilla,as I recall), then did indeed have to scramble to get it produced on a short timeline.
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**** Apple and their over-glorified app launcher they call an OS.
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Even worse they're dumbing down the once awesome Mac OS to act more like IOS. Thank God my Mac Pro wont be supported when 10.8 comes out.. 10.7 is bad enough..
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Can anyone confirm that the Vibrant indeed does or does not have Gorilla Glass by Corning?
I am getting conflicting information.
Thanks
Jesse
BTW: If it does indeed have it is there really a need for a screen protector?
I had lunch with a samsung rep who claimed it did. I tried to confirm via the internets but all I found was rumors.
Not sure but always use a screen protector. ..
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Not sure but always use a screen protector. ..
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That's what I was thinking....
Have one you recommend?
Corning put out a press release last year stating that they'd picked up Samsung as a customer for Gorilla Glass® for their touch screen phones. All the Galaxy S series phones have Gorilla Glass®. Even the craptastic Behold II had it. The story is the same for basically all Motorola phones too, though I'm not sure about HTC (at least I've not seen anything official).
Corning Supplies Samsung Electronics with Gorilla™ Glass for Touch Screen Mobile Phones
Granted if you look at Corning's device list the Galaxy S series phones are not listed, but you can also notice the list itself is obviously fairly old.
Corning has the contract for Samsung, this much we know.
After watching some of the videos on youtube, I am not too worried. However, some on here have stated they received minor scratches, but none of those posts indicated WHAT they did to their phone that would cause a scratch.... the videos on youtube could make you cry though and only the box cutter caused scratches from what I could tell.
http://www.corning.com/gorillaglass/devices.aspx
Is Gorilla Glass in my device?
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M8
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Droid, Devour, QA4 Evoke, DEXT, Cliq, CliqXT, Stature i9, Backflip, Milestone, i1, xt720, xt800, Charm, Quench
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You should check out a thread in the Vibrant accessories thread on XDA, multiple pages about screen protectors. I just installed my invisibleshield and after trying it out will put an update in that thread. Some people say the invisibleshield makes swyping hard. The others recommended are Clearfreak and Reallook, although the latter seems to be what people are swaying towards now.
bellrb19 said:
You should check out a thread in the Vibrant accessories thread on XDA, multiple pages about screen protectors. I just installed my invisibleshield and after trying it out will put an update in that thread. Some people say the invisibleshield makes swyping hard. The others recommended are Clearfreak and Reallook, although the latter seems to be what people are swaying towards now.
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I also use zagg. Works great for me, but I've been a zagg fan for a while. Isn't hard to swype for ne.
^^^ is that list outdated or something? I would assume ours, and the droid X have gorilla.
^ Zagg is a personal preference... I for one ripped it off my phone is disgust, felt way way too rubbery (hard to swype)
I'm waiting on the Reallook to arrive and can post results, the T-Mobile one was not good at all with the matte finish.
My phone was sitting on a wooden bench, and as we all know this phone is crazy slippery. On its own, it slid off the bench into the dirt below (about a 3ft drop). I now have what I would call a chip on the screen, not a scratch. So if we do have gorilla glass, it doesn't do ****. Imma order a screen protector on payday. Also it may be my imagination but I'm pretty sure the chip is getting bigger. I'm sure I'm just tripping balls though.
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My phone was sitting on a wooden bench, and as we all know this phone is crazy slippery. On its own, it slid off the bench into the dirt below (about a 3ft drop). I now have what I would call a chip on the screen, not a scratch. So if we do have gorilla glass, it doesn't do ****. Imma order a screen protector on payday. Also it may be my imagination but I'm pretty sure the chip is getting bigger. I'm sure I'm just tripping balls though.
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christpuncher said:
My phone was sitting on a wooden bench, and as we all know this phone is crazy slippery. On its own, it slid off the bench into the dirt below (about a 3ft drop). I now have what I would call a chip on the screen, not a scratch. So if we do have gorilla glass, it doesn't do ****. Imma order a screen protector on payday. Also it may be my imagination but I'm pretty sure the chip is getting bigger. I'm sure I'm just tripping balls though.
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I dunno...it may be getting bigger. I mean, when you get a chip/crack in your car's windshield and don't get it fixed quickly, it can get bigger pretty fast.
nikami said:
i dunno...it may be getting bigger. I mean, when you get a chip/crack in your car's windshield and don't get it fixed quickly, it can get bigger pretty fast.
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safelite repair, safelite replace
I highly doubt that this phone has gorilla glass. I put it in my pocket a couple times with the included earbuds and got a couple scratches as a result, one of which is visible when the screen is in use.
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The glass isn't necessarily the top surface. From what I was reading about the stuff they often use other layers. That means if we do have gorilla glass the screen may still scratch, it will just be harder to break.
i think that list is out dated because it doesn't say anything about the dell streak and that defo got the gorilla glass
Crazy to hear people saying EAR BUDS are causing scratches.... that is NOT what I viewed when I saw an Asian dude ripping a screw into the screen with no scratches.
Doesn't make sense... I'm not doubting someone on here, but I am not experiencing that and the phone has taken a LOT worse on videos you can watch.
I can say this much atleast lol earbuds definately would not scratch the screen, my girlfriend got her Vibrant at a Samsung training event a few weeks ago, and I watched her attempt to scratch the **** out of her screen with her keys. not a single scratch on it, I was impressed.
Im so pissed right now, thats impossible to describe. or i am the unluckiest person in the world, or this glass is a ****.
Ok, i carried the phone in my pocket without screen protector for a month, no scrachs, but now, the FIRST TIME! the phone fell down.. from about 1 meter AT MOST, on a stone floor...
IT SMASHED IN ONE THOUSAND PIECES!
how can a 100gr phone have the power to in 1meter, smash an "almost" indestructible glass? what the **** was that?
if it was scrashed, if it EVEN got a damage on the screen, but one thousand pieces?
Not to mention that i got an Otterbox...
Well im now thinking in taking a new phone, gona fix this one first.
any sugestions of a better phone? dont say sgs2, needs to be now
thanks and sorry for the angry... if anyone wants i can post a pic of the totally **** it became
Pics or it didn't happen.
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I agree with jamesd, it is like a windshield on a car, it will not shatter. Also, Gorilla glass is not indestructible, just much harder to scratch and break. go look at the website!
is there a possible it can be a refurb w/o gorila glass? gonna try to find the cam now, if i cant, i will take some pics tomorrow with my girlfriend phone
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is there a possible it can be a refurb w/o gorila glass?
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You mean just for cost reasons? Its not indestructible, but theres no doubt its better than regular glass.
Cant be scrached doesnt mean it cant be shattered. It all depends on the material's physical property. Nexus s would be ur best bet for t mobile or vibrant 4g
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what about an desire hd?
Gorilla Glass is much stronger than regular glass but is not unbreakable. It's strength also depends on how thick it is, which varies from one application to the next. If Samsung used a thinner layer either because of expense or to keep the device thinner, it may explain why these screens tend to shatter pretty easily. I will say that I've had my phone for 6 months, have never used a screen protector, and don't have a single scratch anywhere on the screen.
I dropped my phone and it got a crack. It costs $80 to repair
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the problem is that i not live in us, and this phone doesnt have support by samsung here, so i will have to buy the lcd+digitizer and fix it myself, ending in about 130 usd
CrazyCharlie said:
Gorilla Glass is much stronger than regular glass but is not unbreakable. It's strength also depends on how thick it is, which varies from one application to the next. If Samsung used a thinner layer either because of expense or to keep the device thinner, it may explain why these screens tend to shatter pretty easily. I will say that I've had my phone for 6 months, have never used a screen protector, and don't have a single scratch anywhere on the screen.
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+1000! Only I've had mine since release day, so, 9 months now!
I see friends phones with the screen protectors on them and no matter how good of a job you do a screen protector looks like ****!
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Dude get the nexus s, roms and over clocks are gonna be sick. plus they curved the screen a bit, so if it falls, the edges of the phone hit the floor instead of the screen.
Gorilla glass is scratch proof but not more resistant the breakage. And the fact that the glass is end to end, an impact on the side can travel to the side of the glass, where its most susceptible to breaking into pieces, like it happened to you...
I did throw my phone twice on the wall out of anger, didn't happen to my phone luckily... Ur drop must be a peculiar type directly at the weakest point... Silicon cases, ur best bet next time... I had one on when I threw the phone...
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Im so pissed right now, thats impossible to describe. or i am the unluckiest person in the world, or this glass is a ****.
Ok, i carried the phone in my pocket without screen protector for a month, no scrachs, but now, the FIRST TIME! the phone fell down.. from about 1 meter AT MOST, on a stone floor...
IT SMASHED IN ONE THOUSAND PIECES!
how can a 100gr phone have the power to in 1meter, smash an "almost" indestructible glass? what the **** was that?
if it was scrashed, if it EVEN got a damage on the screen, but one thousand pieces?
Not to mention that i got an Otterbox...
Well im now thinking in taking a new phone, gona fix this one first.
any sugestions of a better phone? dont say sgs2, needs to be now
thanks and sorry for the angry... if anyone wants i can post a pic of the totally **** it became
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Dude, Gorilla glass is a mix-design that makes the glass surface very hard and the material 3 times more flexible than normal glass........BUT.... it still is glass and if you drop any glass and it hits just right .....the glass breaks. Since this type of glass is also a tempered variety when it breaks it shatters.
Me ? I have dropped my phone from 10 feet and nothing so, I ll chalk it up to you being lucky........or unlucky I should say............
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Gorilla glass is scratch proof but not more resistant the breakage. And the fact that the glass is end to end, an impact on the side can travel to the side of the glass, where its most susceptible to breaking into pieces, like it happened to you...
I did throw my phone twice on the wall out of anger, didn't happen to my phone luckily... Ur drop must be a peculiar type directly at the weakest point... Silicon cases, ur best bet next time... I had one on when I threw the phone...
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You threw you vibrant not one but two times on the wall and still it survived while this guy only dropped it once and always kept it safe yet had it shatter to pieces with the first unfortunate accident.
What a cruel world.
Hi all,
I wonder if anybody has managed to get cracked screen replaced under warranty as its supposed to be this all singing all dancing wonderfully strong glass.
I have never managed to crack a screen before and I now have a hairline fracture across the top.
Surely they overegging their products if there are all these cracked screens.
Also has anybody seen these screens for the wonderful £60 mentioned in the repairing tutorial they all seem to be nearer £130 now.
£130 will be the price of a s/h SG2 when the SG3 comes out prob. I might just wait a bit.
Thanks
Dred.
Dredwerker said:
Surely they overegging their products if there are all these cracked screens.
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"They" are overegging nothing. Gorilla glass is excellent - look at all the smashed iphone screens around.
However, it's not indestructable. It's marketed as "scratch resistant" - not scratch proof and not crack proof. Enough pressure on the screen - any screen -and it will crack, as you have discovered. As indeed did I, but expected nothing else after a tram ran over my old SGS2...
I got a replacement via my insurance. Didn't bother checking to see if it was covered by warranty, because in my case I didn't have a leg to stand on.
Can't see anyone replacing a broken screen unde warranty, but different suppliers=different rules.
FWIW, my PMP (Cowon S9) with Gorilla glass has add umpteen drops and all other sorts of no-nos - sand, keys, you name it. Three years on, not a mark on it.
Gorilla glass is never advertised as crack proof, its scratch resistance.
Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but same strength.
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There must be quite a few judging by tutorials and replacement glasses and whole lcds on ebay. There is a whole thread on Droids and Gorilla glass cracks.
B3311 said:
"They" are overegging nothing. Gorilla glass is excellent - look at all the smashed iphone screens around.
However, it's not indestructable. It's marketed as "scratch resistant" - not scratch proof and not crack proof. Enough pressure on the screen - any screen -and it will crack, as you have discovered. As indeed did I, but expected nothing else after a tram ran over my old SGS2...
I got a replacement via my insurance. Didn't bother checking to see if it was covered by warranty, because in my case I didn't have a leg to stand on.
Can't see anyone replacing a broken screen unde warranty, but different suppliers=different rules.
FWIW, my PMP (Cowon S9) with Gorilla glass has add umpteen drops and all other sorts of no-nos - sand, keys, you name it. Three years on, not a mark on it.
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Yeah but my desire got dropped and just in general use nothing happened and nor did any of my other phones.
This sg2 gets dropped and its toast. I have had an XDA1 which has faired better than this.
I don't expect indestructable, I wasn't blending it
They advertise it as tough glass, which I think it isn't particularly. My screen is scratched, and I make sure no keys or coins etc.. go in the same pocket.
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There must be quite a few judging by tutorials and replacement glasses and whole lcds on ebay. There is a whole thread on Droids and Gorilla glass cracks.
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Yeah, right..... 20 million sold, therefore ebay and some threads=loads cracked.
Don't slag off the glass - you cracked your phone, live with it. You're not the first and you won't be the last. £130 is a bargain.... over £230 where I live
Out of curiosity, how did you crack it?
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Yeah but my desire got dropped and just in general use nothing happened and nor did any of my other phones.
This sg2 gets dropped and its toast. I have had an XDA1 which has faired better than this.
I don't expect indestructable, I wasn't blending it
They advertise it as tough glass, which I think it isn't particularly. My screen is scratched, and I make sure no keys or coins etc.. go in the same pocket.
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The factors of height, landing surface and angle the phone make contact with the landing surface are very important on whether your phone's screen survives a drop. The least important factor is the material the screen is made from.
You will hear stories of the same brand of phone being dropped from a couple of centimetres to a couple of metres onto sufaces from carpet to concrete. Plenty have survived what would normally be considered a dead cert to smash the screen and didn't.
It is tough glass, but remember that it is glass and glass breaks.
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Yeah, right..... 20 million sold, therefore ebay and some threads=loads cracked.
Don't slag off the glass - you cracked your phone, live with it. You're not the first and you won't be the last. £130 is a bargain.... over £230 where I live
Out of curiosity, how did you crack it?
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Thank you for your kind help. I have no choice but to replace it. I wanted to gauge the extent of this cracking whilst minor droppage occurs.
I have friends taking the p1ss because I have managed to break "really strong gorilla glass".
I was getting my son out of the car and he pulled on the headphones and it dropped from waist height and has a hairline crack on the glass.
The extent of the problems looked fairly large after bothering to google for it. I know I shouldn't feed the troll but what research have you done in to it. I expect none. Apart from yours haven't broken - wow you must be a scientist.
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The factors of height, landing surface and angle the phone make contact with the landing surface are very important on whether your phone's screen survives a drop. The least important factor is the material the screen is made from.
You will hear stories of the same brand of phone being dropped from a couple of centimetres to a couple of metres onto sufaces from carpet to concrete. Plenty have survived what would normally be considered a dead cert to smash the screen and didn't.
It is tough glass, but remember that it is glass and glass breaks.
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This is why I am asking really. If you blow on it and it breaks then I want to know from a warranty perspective. The material on the SG2 might be particularly brittle or on a certain batch.
Thanks for the replies all
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Thank you for your kind help. I have no choice but to replace it. I wanted to gauge the extent of this cracking whilst minor droppage occurs.
I have friends taking the p1ss because I have managed to break "really strong gorilla glass".
I was getting my son out of the car and he pulled on the headphones and it dropped from waist height and has a hairline crack on the glass.
The extent of the problems looked fairly large after bothering to google for it. I know I shouldn't feed the troll but what research have you done in to it. I expect none. Apart from yours haven't broken - wow you must be a scientist.
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Doctor, actually, but I also lecture in Physiology and some Biochem - scientific enough? Or would you prefer my A level in Physics? Both disqualify me from glass stress mechanisms....
Your sarcasm, hilarious as it is, is sadly pointless. And as I stated clearly, I did smash the screen on a previous device.
As fred_up states, there are many factors to account for when you drop your phone. My brother dropped his SGS1 from about 15 cm height. But it landed on the corner of a kerbstone, so it cracked bigtime. I've dropped mine flat onto gravel from about 2m up - screen was spotless, some chips on the "chrome".
Horses for courses. You were unlucky. Tried your insurance?
I know you must be getting annoyed now but, is it a crack, or a deep scratch
I got two nice scratches near the speaker Courtesy mom and wife and their earrings, so now I put on
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i neva go wiv ads ,the drop videos showing "wooow the screens really gr8"
m8 if the thing has to break then it will...its jus sometimes we get lucky,so get it replaced instead of reading more posts........goood luck
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I know you must be getting annoyed now but, is it a crack, or a deep scratch
I got two nice scratches near the speaker Courtesy mom and wife and their earrings, so now I put on
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Hairline fracture underneath the surface is how I would describe it.
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i neva go wiv ads ,the drop videos showing "wooow the screens really gr8"
m8 if the thing has to break then it will...its jus sometimes we get lucky,so get it replaced instead of reading more posts........goood luck
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Too true I suppose. Just that if someone advertises something then one has a right to be annoyed. I would be far less annoyed if it had a glass screen on it and not a "corning gorilla glass" screen.
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Doctor, actually, but I also lecture in Physiology and some Biochem - scientific enough? Or would you prefer my A level in Physics? Both disqualify me from glass stress mechanisms....
Your sarcasm, hilarious as it is, is sadly pointless. And as I stated clearly, I did smash the screen on a previous device.
As fred_up states, there are many factors to account for when you drop your phone. My brother dropped his SGS1 from about 15 cm height. But it landed on the corner of a kerbstone, so it cracked bigtime. I've dropped mine flat onto gravel from about 2m up - screen was spotless, some chips on the "chrome".
Horses for courses. You were unlucky. Tried your insurance?
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I was only pointing out the non-scientific nature of both of our methods - Doc
Anyway - the bleedin excess would be more than its worth.
Dredwerker said:
I was only pointing out the non-scientific nature of both of our methods - Doc
Anyway - the bleedin excess would be more than its worth.
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Depends - give insurance companies enough grief, be strong and do not give an inch, and they'll pay to be rid of the hassle
I'm good at that - probably why my car is now insured in my wife's name - they wised up.....
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B3311 said:
Depends - give insurance companies enough grief, be strong and do not give an inch, and they'll pay to be rid of the hassle
I'm good at that - probably why my car is now insured in my wife's name - they wised up.....
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I irritate enough people here. Think how irritating I can be when there's money at stake. I'm a Tyke...
Lets just say you were unluckly that your screen cracked, as i and many people have been luckly, but for your warranty covering a cracked screen you can only but ask. I personaly think that it wont be covered, as the idea is to cover faults by samsung not your bad luck.
I couldn't help notice yor argument started to delve into science.
Glass is a brittle material and so it can take many fatal blows without showing any signs of damage. But one day a minor impact which would usually have no effect on a brand new piece will be the straw the broke the camel's back. This is because the fatal blows which it suffered previously will have left considerable damage only visible on a microscopic level. This explains why one guy can have his phone fall down the stairs many times and survive but have the screen break because "he blew on it" as Dredwaker put it.
Laboratory tests and can ensure that manufacturing is consistent but real-life will throw in many unexpected variables and odds.
Mech. Engineering student, I know some stuff but not everything
AFAIK, the warranty does not cover physical damages to the phone.
No manufacturer services a device with physical damages on warranty terms, unless resistance to physical stress is in product requirements.
But one day a minor impact which would usually have no effect on a brand new piece will be the straw the broke the camel's back.
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Fractures have tendency to propagate on glass. Any stress, including usual usage in this case, touching, vibration, etc. will propagate it further.
I remember cracking my LCD screen on laptop. At first it was barely a point, I did not touch the screen or apply any pressure, but only from opening-closing the lid+vibration, in a few days almost the whole screen was black.
Hey guys,
I woke up this morning to check my alarm and i got so shocked that i fully woke up. I noticed a small crack below the home buttom. I have NO IDEA how it happened. I would appreciate any expert opinion if this would be covered under Samsung warranty.
Thanks
bu2askoor said:
Hey guys,
I woke up this morning to check my alarm and i got so shocked that i fully woke up. I noticed a small crack below the home buttom. I have NO IDEA how it happened. I would appreciate any expert opinion if this would be covered under Samsung warranty.
Thanks
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It's my understanding if you are willing to pay you can return it. I know if you were on Verizon you could return the phone within the first month and then "repurchase" the exact same device.
On a side note, there has to be something horribly wrong with Gorilla Glass 2. I foresee a recall coming...
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On a side note, there has to be something horribly wrong with Gorilla Glass 2. I foresee a recall coming...
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Do you have any evidence of that? From the video's and articles I read about the s3 and gorilla glass (2) there is nothing wrong with it. The new design of the S3 (thin bezzle) makes is more "fragile" but also smaller, lighter and more usable in one hand.
So rather get a bumper / case (like many iPhone users have been forced to do)...
I have just been following this site and several others in my spare time and it seems like a lot of breakage for GG2. Considering the stuff is supposed to be stronger than its predecessor, it doesn't seem to be handling the abuse (or most cases lack there of) too well.
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Case!!!!! Where is the case!!!??? you should be using a case... even after seeing the drop tests videos here in xda not using a case is totally wrong.
****ing Gorilla glass 2
bull****
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I have just been following this site and several others in my spare time and it seems like a lot of breakage for GG2. Considering the stuff is supposed to be stronger than its predecessor, it doesn't seem to be handling the abuse (or most cases lack there of) too well.
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It's scratch resistant, not drop resistant glass
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Case!!!!! Where is the case!!!??? you should be using a case... even after seeing the drop tests videos here in xda not using a case is totally wrong.
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I'm not going to use a case xD #ballsofsteel
Wow that sucks! But definitely looks like it fell. I dont think its just gorilla glass 2 tho, the build of this device is just not as solid as the s2. I even managed to scratch the paint on the bottom white button on the first day using the S3. Thought it was dust and then when i realized it was chipped paint i was pretty furious at myself!
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I'm not going to use a case xD #ballsofsteel
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i dont use a case too
The phone's fragile as Hell and Samsung didn't even fit a wrist strap loop because obviously with the size of it people are inevitably gonna drop it.
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It's scratch resistant, not drop resistant glass
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it is not even scratch proof my S III have many scratches already.
kenan99 said:
it is not even scratch proof my S III have many scratches already.
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"Resistant", not "proof"
http://m.corninggorillaglass.com/smartphone/
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Gorilla Glass 2 Sucks. It would have been better If samsung provided the original gorilla glass (1st one)
Cracked screen issue
I purchased S3 for myself and have had it for 2 weeks with no issues. My wife saw the phone and said she wanted one as well. So, I ordered it. We received it, charged it, and then activated the phone. She put it back on the charger before she went to bed. Got up in the morning put it in her padded phone pouch in her purse and ran to the store. She went to call me from the store and noticed a crack in the screen from the earpiece to volume button on the phone. She said she did not drop or bang it on anything. Needless to say she returned the phone no questions asked by AT&T and bought the iPhone 4S instead because she did not want to have to worry about the screen breaking for no apparent reason. The one thing I did notice on her S3 was where the screen meets the case. There seemed to be a glass grit or dust in the crack around 2/3 rds of the perimeter screen. My S3 did not have that.
A few people at reddit are reporting that the glass visor on the back of the 6P (on the camera hump) has spontaneously shattered on their phones. The phone was sitting on a table, not being used, and the glass suddenly just cracked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
This recalls the days when people reported similar experiences with the glass back on the Nexus 4. Some at the time speculated it had to do with heat differentials that the glass back of the Nexus 4 could not handle.
In the case of the 6P, some people in the thread say that the glass visor on the back of the phone directly abuts the surrounding metal, without the sort of plastic buffer ring that usually separates screens from a metal chassis. This means there is no protection for the glass visor from sheer forces (against the edge of the glass, rather than the face of the glass). Apparently Gorilla Glass is designed to take direct impact to the surface of the glass, at the cost of being less resistant to sheer forces. Others in the reddit thread also suggest that the metal body expanding at a different rate, due to temperature differentials, could produce the necessary sheer force to shatter the glass visor.
Anyone here experiencing problems with the glass visor shattering?
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A few people at reddit are reporting that the glass visor on the back of the 6P (on the camera hump) has spontaneously shattered on their phones. The phone was sitting on a table, not being used, and the glass suddenly just cracked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
This recalls the days when people reported similar experiences with the glass back on the Nexus 4. Some at the time speculated it had to do with heat differentials that the glass back of the Nexus 4 could not handle.
In the case of the 6P, some people in the thread say that the glass visor on the back of the phone directly abuts the surrounding metal, without the sort of plastic buffer ring that usually separates screens from a metal chassis. This means there is no protection for the glass visor from sheer forces (against the edge of the glass, rather than the face of the glass). Apparently Gorilla Glass is designed to take direct impact to the surface of the glass, at the cost of being less resistant to sheer forces. Others in the reddit thread also suggest that the metal body expanding at a different rate, due to temperature differentials, could produce the necessary sheer force to shatter the glass visor.
Anyone here experiencing problems with the glass visor shattering?
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Been posted already.
No issues here yet, also my Nexus 4 is still going strong without a case and no shattering either.
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Been posted already.
No issues here yet, also my Nexus 4 is still going strong without a case and no shattering either.
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Oh, thanks, sorry to repost. I looked and couldn't find a thread. It will be interesting to see if this turns out to just be a few unlucky people or a more widespread issue.
[Edit: Since no one seems to be able to find the other thread or it may actually have been about something else--people dropping or bending their phones--I'm going to assume that this is in fact the only thread currently on the topic of the glass visor spontaneously cracking on it's own when the phone is not being touched or handled by the user at all.]
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Been posted already.
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Where is the original thread link? So we all discuss it there.
i say its a user error. I.E dropped, intentionally, or accidentally
enough with these posts gosh!! phone is rock solid!
Sounds like the kiddos in the other thread bending their phones being careless... just more people being careless. I have abused mine to an extent, wasn't able to bend any edges and certainly haven't broken the glass. I even dropped it hardwood already, no damage.
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Sounds like the kiddos in the other thread bending their phones being careless... just more people being careless. I have abused mine to an extent, wasn't able to bend any edges and certainly haven't broken the glass. I even dropped it hardwood already, no damage.
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This is definitely not what happened with the people in the reddit thread. Their phones were sitting on a table, not being handled at all, and they suddenly heard cracking sounds and the glass cracked on its own. So some sort of flaw in the glass or stress from the metal body on the glass (or both) caused the cracking.
From the OP of the reddit thread (and a couple others there report similar experiences):
https://imgur.com/u2ILh24
Well that was a surprise. For me, and the cat. It was sat on a table next to me when I heard the glass snap, leaving a little snowfall of shavings on the table under it. It's now continuing to crack away to itself.
See: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
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Anyone here at XDA experience this?
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This is definitely not what happened with the people in the reddit thread. Their phones were sitting on a table, not being handled at all, and they suddenly heard cracking sounds and the glass cracked on its own. So some sort of flaw in the glass or stress from the metal body on the glass (or both) caused the cracking.
From the OP of the reddit thread (and a couple others there report similar experiences):
Anyone here at XDA experience this?
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Sounds like people just want to make up BS just because they weren't careful with their phone
While I am an honest person, if I weren't and managed to break the glass on my phone, I might be inclined to claim spontaneous breakage to get it warrantied. Take this crap with a grain of salt. There are a lot of folks that would do and say just about anything to avoid forking out the cash to replace their phone themselves when they busted it.
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While I am an honest person, if I weren't and managed to break the glass on my phone, I might be inclined to claim spontaneous breakage to get it warrantied. Take this crap with a grain of salt. There are a lot of folks that would do and say just about anything to avoid forking out the cash to replace their phone themselves when they busted it.
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I could see this being the case. Drop straight onto the back considering visor is raised from rest of the device.
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Sounds like the kiddos in the other thread bending their phones being careless... just more people being careless. I have abused mine to an extent, wasn't able to bend any edges and certainly haven't broken the glass. I even dropped it hardwood already, no damage.
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I fear that. The darn thing is so slippery. I ordered a intelliglass thing that I have on my N5 which works great and keeps the naked look. But I do moisturize my hands a lot these days.
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I fear that. The darn thing is so slippery. I ordered a intelliglass thing that I have on my N5 which works great and keeps the naked look. But I do moisturize my hands a lot these days.
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Haha! I'll give you that one.
I think that Nexus community is these days worse than Samsung or iphone fanboys. Anything that is pointed out of the device that there is fault is always said "shut up I love my N<3xus" While this 6P is clearly having major design flaws.
And this comes from a guy who has pre-ordered this phone and can't wait to get my hands on it but I don't want to close my eyes of those stupid design flaws.
So far what is it 2 or 3 cases of back visor smashed ....how many phones sold?......user error
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Sounds like people just want to make up BS just because they weren't careful with their phone
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While I am an honest person, if I weren't and managed to break the glass on my phone, I might be inclined to claim spontaneous breakage to get it warrantied. Take this crap with a grain of salt. There are a lot of folks that would do and say just about anything to avoid forking out the cash to replace their phone themselves when they busted it.
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We've already been down this road with the Nexus 4. People can put their head in the sand and refuse to believe it, but it is possible for glass parts on phones to break on their own, either due to temperature differentials or flaws in the overall design of the phone body (that puts stress on glass parts in ways they were not designed to handle). If you actually bother to read through the reddit thread, you can see there are a number of people knowledgeable about materials science explaining how this can happen.
In any case, it would be a dumb way to make up a story to try to get the phone replaced under warranty, precisely because people are inclined not to believe these stories and because people lack the sophistication to understand how glass can break in this way.
So, I don't doubt this really happened. Again if you bother to read the reddit thread, you can see the people involved seem credible.
The real question is: Will this turn out to be a fluke with a couple phones or is this going to be a more widespread problem?
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We've already been down this road with the Nexus 4.
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I remember loads of cases of back glass broken.
I had N4 for a year and then my gf had it. She is not as careful as me. Phone been dropped few times and no problems.
So I really hope its not a problem in here
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I think that Nexus community is these days worse than Samsung or iphone fanboys. Anything that is pointed out of the device that there is fault is always said "shut up I love my N<3xus" While this 6P is clearly having major design flaws.
And this comes from a guy who has pre-ordered this phone and can't wait to get my hands on it but I don't want to close my eyes of those stupid design flaws.
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3 or 4 glass issues over thousands of shipping
Yeah you are right... we should not act like fanboys,
it's clearly a design flaw spreading out all over the world !!
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I remember loads of cases of back glass broken.
I had N4 for a year and then my gf had it. She is not as careful as me. Phone been dropped few times and no problems.
So I really hope its not a problem in here
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Yes, just as there were many broken glass backs on the iPhone 4 and looking around a little it seems to be a pretty common problem with the Galaxy S6 and Note5. I have no doubt there will be many broken glass visors on the Nexus 6P, from people droppping it. I have been pretty lucky, with my Nexus 4; dropped it a couple times over the years, even on concrete, and no broken glass back; although I never took the original plastic covering off the back in the hopes that would protect it some.
But, just to emphasize the point, since most people are totally missing the point, what is being discussed in this thread is a design flaw in which the visor shatters on its own, not due to users dropping the phone. This could be due to rapid temperature differentials or to flaws in the way the glass visor abuts the aluminum body and is put under sheer stresses, for which the glass was not designed.
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3 or 4 glass issues over thousands of shipping
Yeah you are right... we should not act like fanboys,
it's clearly a design flaw spreading out all over the world !!
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Not that many people have the phone yet. Many people may also not be posting about the issue online. So your "3 or 4" out of thousands are pretty much just made up numbers. Three or four have been reported. There could be more out there. And not that many people have the phone yet. Once the shipping numbers are more in the millions, then will see how common it is.
In any case, whatever happens, it does not mean that it is not a stupid design decision to use extra glass (a fragile material) where it is not necessary. Especially when so many other phones have already demonstrated why this is a bad idea. Even if the spontaneous shattering visor issue turns out to only affect very few people, the fact will remain the 6P is more vulnerable to damage when dropped than necessary. Since people carry their phones everywhere and constantly take them in and out of their pockets, it's a device that should be designed with durability in mind. You can't prevent every accident, but you can minimize the damage they cause.
I wish Google had learned their lesson from the Nexus 4. Sure, a small glass visor is better than an entirely glass back like on the Nexus 4. But it's still unnecessary. I'll bet Samsung will not put a glass back on the Galaxy S7 or Note6, realizing that it was a bad idea like everyone else who's tried it. This will leave only Google with the dubious distinction of repeating the glass on the back of the phone mistake twice. Not only can Google not learn from others mistakes, they can't even learn from their own.