Not sure if you guys are happy/unhappy with your Sprint service, but they're hiking up the price for shared lines/business accounts. By them doing this, it voids your contract. Just thought I'd throw it out there.
http://nerdtechnics.com/2012/02/sprint-making-price-changes-in-shared-plans/
I am personally jumping ship because of my 3G data has become almost useless in my area. There's been a tower outage for going on 6 months now.
Known this for about a month now. This is how I got out of Sprint last month.
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Known this for about a month now. This is how I got out of Sprint last month.
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Did you see it reported somewhere or do you check your account often for those messages at the bottom? I just noticed this last night! This change basically raises my account balance about $25!
I've been thinking for a while now of jumping ship but im curious what plans you guys found out there that are comparable to sprints data plans? I was looking into verizon and found that I would pay almost $40 bucks higher for some of their plans similar to my sprints unlimited data plans. God, these carriers are getting ridiculous with the plan hikes...
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I've been thinking for a while now of jumping ship but im curious what plans you guys found out there that are comparable to sprints data plans? I was looking into verizon and found that I would pay almost $40 bucks higher for some of their plans similar to my sprints unlimited data plans. God, these carriers are getting ridiculous with the plan hikes...
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Not sure how much data you use, sounds like a lot, but Verizon is currently doing, instead of 2GB of data for $30, their doing 4GB for $30. I am about to port my numbers to Verizon.
Using Amazon Wireless I can get 3 Galaxy Nexus' and 2 Thunderbolts for a total of $299.99 out the door. And the plan is the exact same that I have with Sprint, 700 shared min., unlimited text, $30 each line for 4GB of data for $279.99/month, just about what I was paying for Sprint's. Of course Verizon isn't unlimited, but I'll gladly take that over their ****ty network in my area.
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Not sure how much data you use, sounds like a lot, but Verizon is currently doing, instead of 2GB of data for $30, their doing 4GB for $30. I am about to port my numbers to Verizon.
Using Amazon Wireless I can get 3 Galaxy Nexus' and 2 Thunderbolts for a total of $299.99 out the door. And the plan is the exact same that I have with Sprint, 700 shared min., unlimited text, $30 each line for 4GB of data for $279.99/month, just about what I was paying for Sprint's. Of course Verizon isn't unlimited, but I'll gladly take that over their ****ty network in my area.
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how are you paying $280 at sprint? 5 lines with 1500 shared and unlimited everything is only $220
as for the op, unless theyre making a second change this shouldnt be a way to get out of your contract. the price remains the same, but instead of $130/$0 for the first two lines it is now $110/$20. for those with nvp discounts that will result in a small loss, but keep in mind nvp is not part of your contract and those rates are subject to change anyway. as always people will complain enough and some will get out of contract, but sprint has no responsibility to let you out.
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Known this for about a month now. This is how I got out of Sprint last month.
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Did you get out of your contract because of this change?
Has anyone else? I'm about to call if so.
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I've been thinking for a while now of jumping ship but im curious what plans you guys found out there that are comparable to sprints data plans? I was looking into verizon and found that I would pay almost $40 bucks higher for some of their plans similar to my sprints unlimited data plans. God, these carriers are getting ridiculous with the plan hikes...
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educate yourself my friend... scary to think about where this is headed huh?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475122
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how are you paying $280 at sprint? 5 lines with 1500 shared and unlimited everything is only $220
as for the op, unless theyre making a second change this shouldnt be a way to get out of your contract. the price remains the same, but instead of $130/$0 for the first two lines it is now $110/$20. for those with nvp discounts that will result in a small loss, but keep in mind nvp is not part of your contract and those rates are subject to change anyway. as always people will complain enough and some will get out of contract, but sprint has no responsibility to let you out.
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Everything Data - 1500 shared anytime minutes - $110
employe discount 16% (was 20%) -17.60
Line 1: (This line was free until price hike) - $19.99
Line 2: Premium data: $10, Equip. protect - $8 - $18
Line 3: add a line: $19.99 + $10 data - $29.99
Line 4: add a line: $19.99 + $10 data + $8 protect - $37.99
Line 5: add a line: $19.99 +$10 data - $29.99
Line 6: add a line: $19.99 + $10 data - $29.99
Sprint Surcharges: $16.42
Government Fees & Taxes: $12.59
Total Bill: $277.36
You're correct about it not being much different, but I've spoken with a retention rep. and they said this change does void my contract. They changed the pricing of the original plan I have and also changed the pricing on Line 2 which was free previously. Reguardless if my account stays the same pricing wise, they can't change the pricing of a plan and/or line without it voiding contract. You just have to notify them within 30 days of said change to be able to opt out of ETF fees.
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Everything Data - 1500 shared anytime minutes - $110
employe discount 16% (was 20%) -17.60
Line 1: (This line was free until price hike) - $19.99
Line 2: Premium data: $10, Equip. protect - $8 - $18
Line 3: add a line: $19.99 + $10 data - $29.99
Line 4: add a line: $19.99 + $10 data + $8 protect - $37.99
Line 5: add a line: $19.99 +$10 data - $29.99
Line 6: add a line: $19.99 + $10 data - $29.99
Sprint Surcharges: $16.42
Government Fees & Taxes: $12.59
Total Bill: $277.36
You're correct about it not being much different, but I've spoken with a retention rep. and they said this change does void my contract.
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Thankkkkkk you for this info. LTE here I come!
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So what do you tell them to get out?
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So what do you tell them to get out?
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Tell them you aren't happy that they changed the pricing on your plan and line 2. That's what I said and it worked for me.
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"Due to recent material changes in the contract which would make me pay extra monthly, I'd like to ask that you cancel my contract and get out without early termination fees."
Be nice since they are human too, and I guarantee you that they will be nice back with smooth sailing.
Oh and to answer the OP and other's questions...
My info: http://slickdeals.net/f/3839688-SPRINT-Changing-T-C-again-Feb-2012-Get-out-of-Contract-ETF-free
They've been wanting to do it since last month, and it's this month that they are making the changes. If they tell you that you will not be affected, just hang up and try again because that is 100% false, those who are getting discounts on the first line WILL be affected.
Thank you guys if we cancel the plan are the phones unusable after we do this?
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Thank you guys if we cancel the plan are the phones unusable after we do this?
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Nope, they are yours to keep since you are no longer under the contract for the phones. Since they waive the ETFs on your lines, they are yours to use or sell...
I sold my EVO 3D in a heartbeat since prices are quickly falling...lol
Who did you go with?
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I just got off the phone with sprint. Basically there is no price increase for the plan. The family plan is decreasing $20 therefore compensating for the $20 for the second line. The only increase is if you have a discount and it will no longer apply to the 2nd phone. I did confirm with the rep that this does void the contract and we would be able to get out without paying the ETF's. I really don't have much problems with Sprint except the decrease in 3G speeds with the evo 3d. Going to look at prices at Verizon and might witch to the Galaxy Nexus.
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"Due to recent material changes in the contract which would make me pay extra monthly, I'd like to ask that you cancel my contract and get out without early termination fees."
Be nice since they are human too, and I guarantee you that they will be nice back with smooth sailing.
Oh and to answer the OP and other's questions...
My info: http://slickdeals.net/f/3839688-SPRINT-Changing-T-C-again-Feb-2012-Get-out-of-Contract-ETF-free
They've been wanting to do it since last month, and it's this month that they are making the changes. If they tell you that you will not be affected, just hang up and try again because that is 100% false, those who are getting discounts on the first line WILL be affected.
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Just curious, if I choose to cancel, how would I go about porting my number to a different carrier? If they cancel my lines, you are no longer able to port the numbers.
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I just got off the phone with sprint. Basically there is no price increase for the plan. The family plan is decreasing $20 therefore compensating for the $20 for the second line. The only increase is if you have a discount and it will no longer apply to the 2nd phone. I did confirm with the rep that this does void the contract and we would be able to get out without paying the ETF's. I really don't have much problems with Sprint except the decrease in 3G speeds with the evo 3d. Going to look at prices at Verizon and might witch to the Galaxy Nexus.
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If you do end up switching, the Galaxy Nexus is $99.99 from Amazon Wireless instead of $299.99 through a Verizon Store/Online.
JayDaKissEP said:
I just got off the phone with sprint. Basically there is no price increase for the plan. The family plan is decreasing $20 therefore compensating for the $20 for the second line. The only increase is if you have a discount and it will no longer apply to the 2nd phone. I did confirm with the rep that this does void the contract and we would be able to get out without paying the ETF's. I really don't have much problems with Sprint except the decrease in 3G speeds with the evo 3d. Going to look at prices at Verizon and might witch to the Galaxy Nexus.
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Just curious, if I choose to cancel, how would I go about porting my number to a different carrier? If they cancel my lines, you are no longer able to port the numbers.
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You just call Sprint to make sure that your lines have the EFT's off them and are ready to port. I just did this and once the numbers have been ported, your Sprint contract is cancelled from that point.
When would be the last day to do this? I don't want to get locked into a new contract for 2 years when quad core phones are around the corner...
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Sprint is making some more changes starting early next year. Apparently Family plans are going to lose the extra Employee Discounts, off the second line. We all know Sprint cancelled the discounts off the additional lines (line 3 and up) some time ago.
If you have an Employer Discount, the way it works now, is that you get a Discount (20% for me) on lines 1 & 2, as they billed together as Primary and Secondary. So I get $25.98 off my plan every month with the discount. Effective February the included line TWO, will be split as a separately billed line at $19.99. Line ONE (the Primary) will be $110 as it's own line.
So you will only be getting the Employer Discount off Primary line ONE, which now costs $110. Lines TWO through whatever, will get no discount. My bill will go up an extra $4 basically. Not the end of the world, but just another cut they have implemented. I remember I used to get my Employee discount off all my lines. Just makes you wonder what's next?
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/12/s...ing-february-2nd-2012-it-just-might-cost-you/
Damn, that really sucks : (
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Sprint is making some more changes starting early next year. Apparently Family plans are going to lose the extra Employee Discounts, off the second line. We all know Sprint cancelled the discounts off the additional lines some time ago.
If you have an Employer Discount, the way it works now, is that you get a Discount (20% for me) on lines 1 & 2 as they billed together as Primary and Secondary. So I get $25.98 off my plan every month with the discount. Effective February the included line TWO, will be split as a separately billed $19.99 line and line ONE (the Primary) will be $110.
So you will only be getting the Employer Discount off Primary line ONE, which now costs $110. Lines TWO through whatever, will get no discount. My bill will go up an extra $4 basically. Not the end of the world, but just another cut they have implemented. I remember I used to get my Employee discount off all my lines. Just makes you wonder what's next?
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/12/s...ing-february-2nd-2012-it-just-might-cost-you/
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Wth?
That's sucks a lot. Like you said, it's only a couple bucks, but seriously?? This is just getting better and better...
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While I don't want this but I can say it's gonna be no more unlimited data.
I can honestly see that change coming about, right before they officially roll out LTE. They may let it stay for a while under Grandfathered plans, but if you wanna upgrade...bam there goes unlimited.
Meh...its not like there aren't other options. I wonder if you could use this sudden change of contract as a way out of your contract? I mean after all, it's no longer the family plan you signed up for if they change it, right?
Yes you will be able to. Any change that you can claim adversely affects you financially and they legally can not enforce the ETF as a way out. This includes any change in Billing, whether it be 10 cents more in taxes, or partial Pennies. Any and all increases can be used to get out of your contract without ETF. I have heard of People given a hard time with this from multiple carriers, but in that case it is just talking to the right person.
For anyone given a hard time use this "You have an option here, either allow me to cancel my contract without penalty, or give me your full name, and employee identification number. Transfer me to a supervisor so I can get his/her name and ID. You will be named in my complaint to my state district attorney for breach of fiduciary duty and breach of contractual law. Afterwards if necessary I will retain a lawyer if necessary."
This tells them that they have broken two laws, and are aiding in the broken law if they don't escalate the matter to someone authorized to make decisions on contract releases. If they broke the law and it isn't taken care of you will be sending the matter to your state attorney general who will initiate a class action lawsuit, where the person will be named. State attorney generals really will act on this. On matters that affect many many of their constituents that can reelect them, they love taking and fighting the case. I'd almost guarantee after this threat that they will let you out ETF free. I have used this a dozen times successfully on contracts with carriers and gyms, etc when they broke the law. Works every time. Not a matter of if, just a matter of time
I'm about done with sprint personally. As far as post paid carriers go they are the cheapest. But compare the quality of my service compared to all the prepaid people at work, I'm paying twice what they are paying for the same quality/data speed.. All I have to show for it is a better phone. BTW i played with a galaxy nexus at the mall today, I ran a speed test 16mbs'sec download and 4mbs'sec unload!!!!!
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I can honestly see that change coming about, right before they officially roll out LTE. They may let it stay for a while under Grandfathered plans, but if you wanna upgrade...bam there goes unlimited.
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Exactly how I see it, but of course... BAM, there goes my loyalty to Sprint.
Drewmungus said:
I'm about done with sprint personally. As far as post paid carriers go they are the cheapest. But compare the quality of my service compared to all the prepaid people at work, I'm paying twice what they are paying for the same quality/data speed.. All I have to show for it is a better phone. BTW i played with a galaxy nexus at the mall today, I ran a speed test 16mbs'sec download and 4mbs'sec unload!!!!!
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I don't quite follow, how are you paying twice more than people on other carriers?
Ya sprint is really starting to suck. All the stuff they have done this year doesn't justify their crappy network signals. Maybe I should look at closing out and re signing up in my wifes name to get a few free evos.
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Will this change mean we can get out of contract for free? Sprint is starting to suck big time.
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I don't quite follow, how are you paying twice more than people on other carriers?
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He's saying postpaid vs prepaid he is paying twice as much
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He's saying postpaid vs prepaid he is paying twice as much
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Ohhh sprint vs. Prepaid. Got it.
I am trying so hard to hold out until at least the end of 2012 to see if things will improve with sprint as far as better 3g performance and a decent lte foot print but I am really starting to have some serious doubts. It really looks like I may end up having to switch to at&t pretty soon.
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I am trying so hard to hold out until at least the end of 2012 to see if things will improve with sprint as far as better 3g performance and a decent lte foot print but I am really starting to have some serious doubts. It really looks like I may end up having to switch to at&t pretty soon.
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Same here. I'll move my family to Verizon or T-MO while I move to prepaid AT&T goodness. That unlocked international Galaxy SII is starting to look better and better...
Afterall, it's literally the best phone out minus the Galaxy Nexus.
In metro detroit the data speeds are so bad that I can't even stream pandora without a 30 second re-buffering between songs. One day i tried to download roam control to force roaming on verizon and it was too slow to even start the download.
Speedtest.net app shows my speed at about 0.05 mbit the vast majority of the time with .3 mbit the max i've really seen and that is at 6:30am when the network is clear. And all this with an extra 10 dollar charge for the privelage.
Unlimted data is a catch 22 for me .. with sprint and using my phone constantly I can never even hit 2gb in a month because its so slow. With verizon i would hit 2gb in a couple days. This employee discount deal may be my excuse to get off of sprint and onto a real provider.
Between my contract and being on my parents contract before that I have probably been with sprint for about 15 years.. the funny thing is I cant ever remember being happy with their service.
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I don't quite follow, how are you paying twice more than people on other carriers?
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Because pre paid carriers get unlimited talk text data for about 50 a month. Since sprint is so terrible specially in the data department...its almost worth doing. You can get a pre paid carrier that runs on the Verizon network, so it's a definite option to consider.
What prepaid runs on Verizon?
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What prepaid runs on Verizon?
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Heya rob, don't quote me but I am ALMOST sure it is track phone.
What you guys think? Did Google just ...... all the carrier's?
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What you guys think? Did Google just ...... all the carrier's?
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Not really. People will still need data plans. At most, Google might be snatching the small percentage of people who don't mind paying more for an unlocked device rather than the majority who tend to buy subsidized devices on contract.
Well If you go to a carrier with a phone that is yours outright. They cannot make you sign up for a data plan.
If you brought an unlocked Iphone to Tmobile, they have no reason to charge you for a monthly data plan..
However if you decide to use it with out a plan the price would be costly..
but you can just use Wifi..
that is how I had my Iphone working a few years ago on the tmobile service..
I never had any issues.
You get a cheaper phone through them. how ever they make up the money in the data plan.
So Google did sorta screw the carriers..
Actually the customer gets screwed and the carriers benefit. If you buy a $200 phone, you pay $100 a month for a data plan. It's $100 a month because instead of paying full retail for the phone, you are paying a little bit of it each month via your plan. So roughly $10-$15 of your bill each month is covering the cost of the phone.
The problem with buying an unlocked phone from someone else, is that the carriers don't discount the price of the monthly plan for you. So you still pay $100 a month, but you paid $400 for the device instead of $200. So you've been screwed $200 basically.
Now from the carriers perspective, they love this. Instead of taking $10-15 a month to recoup what they lost on the phone, they charge you that money anyway and it's pure profit.
When the original iPhone was released it was unsubsidized and people laughed at the $600 price. But, for $20 a month you got unlimited data and texting. so yes you paid more upfront, but your bill was $20 a month less than a comparable subsidized phone. So over the course of 2 years it was a good deal.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any carriers that will discount the monthly plan when you bring your own phone.
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Actually the customer gets screwed and the carriers benefit. If you buy a $200 phone, you pay $100 a month for a data plan. It's $100 a month because instead of paying full retail for the phone, you are paying a little bit of it each month via your plan. So roughly $10-$15 of your bill each month is covering the cost of the phone.
The problem with buying an unlocked phone from someone else, is that the carriers don't discount the price of the monthly plan for you. So you still pay $100 a month, but you paid $400 for the device instead of $200. So you've been screwed $200 basically.
Now from the carriers perspective, they love this. Instead of taking $10-15 a month to recoup what they lost on the phone, they charge you that money anyway and it's pure profit.
When the original iPhone was released it was unsubsidized and people laughed at the $600 price. But, for $20 a month you got unlimited data and texting. so yes you paid more upfront, but your bill was $20 a month less than a comparable subsidized phone. So over the course of 2 years it was a good deal.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any carriers that will discount the monthly plan when you bring your own phone.[
Or the customers could just be smart and get a monthly 4g without a contract...(T-mobile)
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Actually the customer gets screwed and the carriers benefit. If you buy a $200 phone, you pay $100 a month for a data plan. It's $100 a month because instead of paying full retail for the phone, you are paying a little bit of it each month via your plan. So roughly $10-$15 of your bill each month is covering the cost of the phone.
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Realy?! My data plan is $30/month 6gigs regardless of the phone I use. If I get a new phone from them ,on say a 3 yr contract, I don't have to get a new plan. How does what you say make any sense?
If i was to change carriers (why would you unless you are cconstantly moving?) every time I got a new phone and was always getting a new contract to reduce the purchase price of the phone, then yes, the price of the plan would probably be higher to subsidise the cost of the phone.
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Actually the customer gets screwed and the carriers benefit. If you buy a $200 phone, you pay $100 a month for a data plan. It's $100 a month because instead of paying full retail for the phone, you are paying a little bit of it each month via your plan. So roughly $10-$15 of your bill each month is covering the cost of the phone.
The problem with buying an unlocked phone from someone else, is that the carriers don't discount the price of the monthly plan for you. So you still pay $100 a month, but you paid $400 for the device instead of $200. So you've been screwed $200 basically.
Now from the carriers perspective, they love this. Instead of taking $10-15 a month to recoup what they lost on the phone, they charge you that money anyway and it's pure profit.
When the original iPhone was released it was unsubsidized and people laughed at the $600 price. But, for $20 a month you got unlimited data and texting. so yes you paid more upfront, but your bill was $20 a month less than a comparable subsidized phone. So over the course of 2 years it was a good deal.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any carriers that will discount the monthly plan when you bring your own phone.[
Or the customers could just be smart and get a monthly 4g without a contract...(T-mobile)
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You're missing the point. The monthly 4G plans are the same price as the contract plans, at least last time I checked. I looked at buying the international Galaxy Nexus when it first came out and putting it on T-Mobile and that is what I discovered.
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Realy?! My data plan is $30/month 6gigs regardless of the phone I use. If I get a new phone from them ,on say a 3 yr contract, I don't have to get a new plan. How does what you say make any sense?
If i was to change carriers (why would you unless you are cconstantly moving?) every time I got a new phone and was always getting a new contract to reduce the purchase price of the phone, then yes, the price of the plan would probably be higher to subsidise the cost of the phone.
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You're misunderstanding what I said. You pay right now $30/month for your data plan (in my example I chose $100 to represent minutes, data, and texts as an example). If you were to buy an unlocked Galaxy Nexus right now and put it on your plan, you'd still pay $30 a month, but you'd be out $400 for the phone. However, if you are due for an upgrade, you can could get a phone for $200 (subsidized) and still pay $30 a month.
In both cases you are paying $30 a month, but in the former you are paying more for your phone. The only advantage to buying the unlocked phones is not being stuck in your contract if you hate the service.
But my point was that US carriers base their monthly rates on the fact that they have subsidized your phone. When you bring your own non-subsidized phone, they don't discount the phone accordingly. So you end up paying more and they ending up making more money.
Doesn't T-Mobile have lower monthly plans when you use your own phone or buy one at full price?
Most people would want a data plan on their smart phone. So its cheaper to get it on contract since they require smartphones to have a data plan regardless of where you bought it. Data plans are not cheaper if you brought your own, its the same. The only good thing about buying a phone off contract is you can jump to another carrier without ETF. IMO, the only.phones I would buy off contracts would be unlocked international ones.
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Not when I last checked.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx
I didn't read up on it, I'm going by the first few sentences at the top. I have a few friends that use this plan.
Since this phone is not carrier specific, does that mean you can use it with AT&T using the $15 unlimited data plan?
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I didn't read up on it, I'm going by the first few sentences at the top. I have a few friends that use this plan.
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That must be new, when I looked into it a few months back it was not an option. Or else I had an uninformed sales rep at the time.
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Since this phone is not carrier specific, does that mean you can use it with AT&T using the $15 unlimited data plan?
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I'm not aware of that plan, where do you see it?
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I'm not aware of that plan, where do you see it?
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I am referring to the unlimited data plan for "non-smartphone" from AT&T. As long as you are using a phone that's not sold by AT&T then they won't recognize IMEI and treat it as "non-smartphone".
For the samsung galaxy, AT&T has its own branded one and there is also a "world" version which also supports AT&T 3g band but AT&T don't recognize it. I assume the this is the same with this phone sold directly by google?
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GNexus doesn't do LTE does it?
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GNexus doesn't do LTE does it?
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The GSM version does not.
my plan is $50 + $20 all unlimited but i am getting additional $20 for the equipment this all charges doesn't include taxes. is this how t-mobile roll right now?
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my plan is $50 + $20 all unlimited but i am getting additional $20 for the equipment this all charges doesn't include taxes. is this how t-mobile roll right now?
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Yep! There is no contract though.... you can cancel your plan anytime, but then you will be responsible for the remaining amount you own on your device.
Take care!
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my plan is $50 + $20 all unlimited but i am getting additional $20 for the equipment this all charges doesn't include taxes. is this how t-mobile roll right now?
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Yup. I think T-Mobile's no contract thing is overblown and exaggerated. You're saving money purely because their $50 unlimited plan is cheaper. Otherwise, everything else is still the same as say AT&T. I mean if you leave T-Mobile, you pay the remaining balance on the phone, which is practically the ETF fee if you were to leave AT&T. Your saving really comes from when you already own a phone and can sign up to T-Mobile w/o being forced to pay $30 extra for using a smartphone.
T-Mobiles new system is great if you have an old phone or dont mind paying 600 bucks out your pocket but at the same thing I dont see the savings if you buy a phone from them
say you get the iPhone, $199 plus $20 a month for 24 months, thats $680 bucks and on top of this, there is a mandatory $11 a month for insurance which you can only remove once you paid the phone off. So that iPhone just ended up costing you 944 bucks
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Yup. I think T-Mobile's no contract thing is overblown and exaggerated. You're saving money purely because their $50 unlimited plan is cheaper. Otherwise, everything else is still the same as say AT&T. I mean if you leave T-Mobile, you pay the remaining balance on the phone, which is practically the ETF fee if you were to leave AT&T. Your saving really comes from when you already own a phone and can sign up to T-Mobile w/o being forced to pay $30 extra for using a smartphone.
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Not really.. if you've actually looked at AT&T's prices to add on more data, its pretty ridiculous compared to 20 bucks for t-mobiles unlimited data
The really big savings comes when you have more than one phone. $30 for second phone and $10 each phone after. And you can add extra data just to the phones that need it.
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Is the mandatory insurance just for the iPhone? I have my note 2 financed and I don't have insurance.
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Not really.. if you've actually looked at AT&T's prices to add on more data, its pretty ridiculous compared to 20 bucks for t-mobiles unlimited data
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That's what I said. The savings come from T-Mobile's $50 plan being cheaper. The whole no contract savings thing is not really a savings. The ETF you pay from any other carriers is the same thing as you having to pay off the remaining balance on the equipment if you cancel.
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busab said:
Is the mandatory insurance just for the iPhone? I have my note 2 financed and I don't have insurance.
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I have not heard of mandatory insurance. That makes no sense. It's not like you're leasing the phone.
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That's what I said. The savings come from T-Mobile's $50 plan being cheaper. The whole no contract savings thing is not really a savings. The ETF you pay from any other carriers is the same thing as you having to pay off the remaining balance on the equipment if you cancel.
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I have not heard of mandatory insurance. That makes no sense. It's not like you're leasing the phone.
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Not mandatory at all, my wife got the s4 and paid $400 down..they told her she had to keep the insurance only for the first month and only pays like $8 or $10 at month for the phone, not sure which one because I would to look at the bill but is one of those 2 numbers
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Yup. I think T-Mobile's no contract thing is overblown and exaggerated. You're saving money purely because their $50 unlimited plan is cheaper. Otherwise, everything else is still the same as say AT&T. I mean if you leave T-Mobile, you pay the remaining balance on the phone, which is practically the ETF fee if you were to leave AT&T. Your saving really comes from when you already own a phone and can sign up to T-Mobile w/o being forced to pay $30 extra for using a smartphone.
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I disagree with you on that. Think about this, in T-Mobile after you decide to go a head and pay off the phone your phone bill goes down $20. In the rest of the carriers even after your 2 year contract have you ever seen you bill gone down? You will pay that phone 5 times for all that matters without them never telling you "your done".
I believe that T-Mobile has done something fair this time around. Paying your equipment independently from the plan enables them to offer better plans and more affordable prices because they are no longer in risk of chargeback's from contracts gone wrong.
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I disagree with you on that. Think about this, in T-Mobile after you decide to go a head and pay off the phone your phone bill goes down $20. In the rest of the carriers even after your 2 year contract have you ever seen you bill gone down? You will pay that phone 5 times for all that matters without them never telling you "your done".
I believe that T-Mobile has done something fair this time around. Paying your equipment independently from the plan enables them to offer better plans and more affordable prices because they are no longer in risk of chargeback's from contracts gone wrong.
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Tomato, tomatoes dude. It all boils down to T-Mobile's plan being cheaper as the reason why you're saving money.
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Tomato, tomatoes dude. It all boils down to T-Mobile's plan being cheaper as the reason why you're saving money.
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I guess we can all agree with that.
Not sure if anyone really cares or not but I just knocked $105 off my AT&T Family plan bill with their new Mobile Share Value Plans.
I'm not a sales agent for AT&T, I'm just letting my fellow XDA users know.
https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/data-plans.html#fbid=K-dU-76XrWB
This is a real deal if you have a large family plan like i do with 5 lines and all smartphones. I was able to lower my bill to $192 a month from $306 the previous month with one phone call. And even better we are getting 10gigs a month now vs the 6gigs i was on.
I know I'm going to take some heat for spamming the board but if one person saves some money I'll be happy
ok flame away
Not sure if its worth giving up an unlimited data plan for this plan.
Ya, I saw those plans, heck, it's even worth it for just 2 lines and 10Gig, $100+$15+$15=$130. I am paying 70 for my single line and only 2gig of data. I know, everyone will tell me to go to a prepay, but I HAVE to have the microcell so I am stuck.
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Not sure if its worth giving up an unlimited data plan for this plan.
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yeah .. unfortunately we lost are unlimited plans back in 2009 when we all got iPhone's
clsA said:
yeah .. unfortunately we lost are unlimited plans back in 2009 when we all got iPhone's
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Unl plans are caped at 3 GB... Then u get the slowest speed...
10 GB = $100 + 15 per device
15 GB = $130 + 15 per device
Completely worth it. Now if you do an upgrade after moving to the plan instead of paying 15 for that line you will pay 40... they are trying to cope somehow how T-Mobile works.
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I went ahead and jumped on this. I had to give up 1 unlimited (LTE) data plan, which was throttled after 5GBs anyway. I think it's worth it to save $90/month.
We went to the value plan. Only two lines, so no massive savings. Went to from 6 to 10 GB for $10 cheaper
I was under the impression that once you switched to one of these plans, you no longer would get subsidized phone upgrades. Correct? In other words, the next time you want to upgrade you basically are on the AT&T Next setup (full unsubsidized price of phone broken out over x payments)
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I was under the impression that once you switched to one of these plans, you no longer would get subsidized phone upgrades. Correct? In other words, the next time you want to upgrade you basically are on the AT&T Next setup (full unsubsidized price of phone broken out over x payments)
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This is correct. Also, if you have currently been in contract for 6 months, they will allow a switch to AT&T Next. I feel it will not be long before they completely go to this method, especially with T-Mobile and others doing much the same.
Ive held on to my 2 line unlimited everything plan for years, paying about $185 before taxes and fees. I think it makes sense to go for this new plan, which drops the price down to $150 while sharing 10gigs. i've only ever gone over 3gigs in a month two times.
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This is correct. Also, if you have currently been in contract for 6 months, they will allow a switch to AT&T Next. I feel it will not be long before they completely go to this method, especially with T-Mobile and others doing much the same.
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Okay, so if that is the case, it seems like you will only save money if you do not intend to take advantage of subsidized upgrades in the future (assuming still available).
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Okay, so if that is the case, it seems like you will only save money if you do not intend to take advantage of subsidized upgrades in the future (assuming still available).
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From a purely monetary standpoint, yes - however, when you compare the data that you receive (10 GB vs 4/6GB), you are still saving money if you use that much data. But without taking advantage of the subsidized upgrades, you would most likely even out.
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I was under the impression that once you switched to one of these plans, you no longer would get subsidized phone upgrades. Correct? In other words, the next time you want to upgrade you basically are on the AT&T Next setup (full unsubsidized price of phone broken out over x payments)
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Do you remember where you heard this? It's the first I've heard about this aspect to the new plans, which means I may regret making the switch.
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Do you remember where you heard this? It's the first I've heard about this aspect to the new plans, which means I may regret making the switch.
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My understanding from the AT&T rep (and my bill) is that each smartphone in the value plans are now $40 per month with a $25 monthly credit, so net $15.
If I upgrade using a Next plan, the $25 credit remains. (Next = a 0% interest loan to purchase the phone over 20 months.)
If I upgrade using a 2-year subsidy, the $25 credit is removed. (Making for a really expensive upgrade-- 24 * $25 + $200 up front = $800 for an iPhone 5S that I could purchase outright for $650.) Not that I'd purchase a 5S, but just an example of how an already overpriced phone just got even more expensive.
Basically, they really do not want people buying subsidized phones, and that's fine with me. I'd rather purchase the phone I want on my own timing and pay for it outright.
Up until the value plans it made sense to do 2-year upgrades because AT&T was already padding their rate plans with the subsidy cost, whether you upgraded or BYOP you paid for it.
Now, it makes more sense to just BYOP.
Yes you have to stay on the next plan, ability to get a new phone yearly or 18 months, to keep the $15/month. I also saved 50% on my phone bill.
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Yes you have to stay on the next plan, ability to get a new phone yearly or 18 months, to keep the $15/month. I also saved 50% on my phone bill.
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This is good news, I was worried that when i upgraded with NEXT it would go from $15 to $40. I guess I should have read into it a little more, but yeah, my family is saving close to $100 since we switched to the value plan.
Love this plan. Switched to it immediately.
The Next program is basically a phone leasing program. So if you pay $30/month for Next18, that $540 is gone when you trade in for the new one. It would be cheaper buying the phone out right then sell it when you wanted to get a new one.
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The Next program is basically a phone leasing program. So if you pay $30/month for Next18, that $540 is gone when you trade in for the new one. It would be cheaper buying the phone out right then sell it when you wanted to get a new one.
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+1 and you are still dealing with the bloat. Going unlocked from here on out. These value plans are nice. Thanks @t-mobile! ? and AT&T for falling in line..
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Upgrades?
I changed to the shared plan two months ago, losing my useless unlimited plan. I moved 5 phones. Two of them were eligible for upgrades at the time, but I was holding them for when I really wanted them. I need one now. I went to the ATT website and checked upgrade-ability. The two phones seem like they have subsidized plans available to them. I can also do the Next plan for any of my phones for the same price. So I can pay zero interest for 20 months, have no plan commitment, and pay in full for my daughter's new iphone over 20 months, or I can pay $199 for the phone, a one-time $36 upgrade fee, and commit for another two years of my shared plan. There is no change to the basic rate.
Greetings All!
Okay, after some hesitation I'm planning to upgrade from my much-loved GS3 to the LG G3.
Currently I'm on the Everything Data 450 plan ($69.99) plus the smartphone fee ($10). I never use all my minutes, not even close, since all mobile to mobile and mobile to VOIP calls are included and free. I only talk to one person that I know of who still uses a traditional landline. My corporate discount saves me about $10 a month as it applies to the $69.99 portion of my bill.
Unlimited, My Way, is $50 for unlimited talk and text plus $30 for unlimited data. Just a penny more, but I have verified that my corporate discount would only apply to the $30 portion of the bill so I would be paying several dollars more a month.
Ergo, I'm planning on keeping my old plan. I see no advantage to switching. Am I missing out on something here?
Many thanks in advance.
Cheers, Henri
I had a similar experience a few days ago. Wanted to get my gf the G3 on the easy pay. I was told to use easy pay I would have to switch to the new plans. The salesman says "it costs the same". But me being a mathematician, lol, quickly figured it was going to cost me $275 before taxes, for 4 line and a tablet. Where my bill on traditional account is about $240 with taxes and fees.
I have 5 lines on the ED1500 plan and I get a 23% corp discount. I worked out I'd pay an extra $60 or so a month switching to the Framily plan even if I could get an extra 2 people to get me to the 7 member threshold for maximum discount. Framily is a crock compared to the old plans if you have more than 2 lines.
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I have 5 lines on the ED1500 plan and I get a 23% corp discount. I worked out I'd pay an extra $60 or so a month switching to the Framily plan even if I could get an extra 2 people to get me to the 7 member threshold for maximum discount. Framily is a crock compared to the old plans if you have more than 2 lines.
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Yep. I'm on the same plan. What company do u work for that gives you 23%? Best I can get us 10 for credit union members. ?
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Made the unfortunate mistake of signing up on framily and ez pay. Hasty decision as I wanted the phone and got talked into the plan under the guise that it was cheaper. Got home. Did the math and it was about 40-50 more per month compared to old plan. Spent 4 hours in best buy returning the phones and reversing the plan only to leave with no devices as my available upgrade was no longer available. Now back on an s3. Upgrade is now activated again, just need to go back and rebuy the phone. Looking forward to getting the g3 back. This s3 just doesn't cut it anymore.
They talked me into the framily plan its me and two others my bill is about the same. I wanted a new phone (g3) but it would cost like 100 a month. They said they could add people to my plan or what ever to lower my bill i waited one week now pay 69 a month for my line with unlimited and insurance. Its awesome just ask them to add people to your plan
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Yep. I'm on the same plan. What company do u work for that gives you 23%? Best I can get us 10 for credit union members. ��
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If you'll forgive my anonymity, a large, well known bank. Previously, I had the same discount through Nortel Networks but the company went bankrupt and no longer exists.
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GraphGPT said:
Made the unfortunate mistake of signing up on framily and ez pay. Hasty decision as I wanted the phone and got talked into the plan under the guise that it was cheaper. Got home. Did the math and it was about 40-50 more per month compared to old plan. Spent 4 hours in best buy returning the phones and reversing the plan only to leave with no devices as my available upgrade was no longer available. Now back on an s3. Upgrade is now activated again, just need to go back and rebuy the phone. Looking forward to getting the g3 back. This s3 just doesn't cut it anymore.
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Yeah, I just don't see the benefit. I have 5 lines. My brother pays me monthly and my sister direct deposits 1/2 the amount of her bill bi-weekly directly to my bank account so I really only pay for my S.O., my daughter and myself which ends up being $197 and change. Upgrading every year would be nice, but I finally have a phone where I don't think I'll need to do that. Also, Framily does away with free navigation. I knoe Google Maps is free, but I have not always had good experiences with it.
Happy to have the g3 back and all parts of original plan back in action!
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In my case... Let me let you know. I have the Framily Plan. In the group that the Store Sales Representative create for me are now 10 persons with my 5 lines. (He add to it other 5 unknown ppl) I only pay $25 bucks per line + taxes... I have 2 LG G3, 2 HTC M8 and 1 Nexus 5. My UPS Corporate 25% discount on the account only works when I buy accessories because all the lines just have 1GB of data. I don't see the fact of have unlimited when everyone here all day is connected to Wi-Fi in work or home so..
What I want to say is I HAVE NO EASY PAY installments... This is the trick.
I had an old plan, (all without contract since June) this week I renew all the contracts with new devices and then the Rep changed me to the new Framily plan.
I was supposed to be charged for $15 bucks until I can renovate or something like that on all the lines but the rep says for some reasons (maybe because changes were made at the same time) the system would not charge me. Now I have my phones without payment and are mines. You should try this.
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Yep. I'm on the same plan. What company do u work for that gives you 23%? Best I can get us 10 for credit union members. ?
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I use UPS and get 23 or 25% can't remember.
Don't forget the biggest difference between the old plans and framily is that you no longer get subsidized devices.