iPhone 4S Sim in Note? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I'm getting my Note tomorrow, can I just plug the sim from my 4S into the Note and have it work?
I ordered the note with the smallest data plan and have unlimited on my iPhone, so really wanted to try out the data speeds but know that I will burn through the plan allotment pretty quickly.
Thanks!

No, you will need to use the new SIM
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One option is to transfer the service on the iphone to the note. Otherwise there isn't much you can do.

Do they make SIM adapters like they do for SD cards? I don't actually have a microSIM but it seems like it should be fairly easy to make a tray that you can put your microSIM in that would fit in a full-size SIM slot.

kevroc said:
I'm getting my Note tomorrow, can I just plug the sim from my 4S into the Note and have it work?
I ordered the note with the smallest data plan and have unlimited on my iPhone, so really wanted to try out the data speeds but know that I will burn through the plan allotment pretty quickly.
Thanks!
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You have two problems:
1. Your iPhone 4s has a micro SIM. Note takes normal sized SIM IIRC. Without an adapter, your micro SIM won't fit.
2. You will need to upgrade your iPhone data plan to LTE data plan before you will be able to use LTE data speeds. Otherwise, it won't connect at all.

foxbat121 said:
You have two problems:
1. Your iPhone 4s has a micro SIM. Note takes normal sized SIM IIRC. Without an adapter, your micro SIM won't fit.
2. You will need to upgrade your iPhone data plan to LTE data plan before you will be able to use LTE data speeds. Otherwise, it won't connect at all.
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Is #2 true? I was told by 2 different online reps and the in store rep that I would be able to keep my unlimited data plan that I've had since my iphone 3g?

You will need the adapter for your current micro SIM to put it into your GNote. It will work for phone calls and probably data but not LTE. If I put a regular 3G SIM into my skyrocket it works or even a t mobile it will still work even though it is EDGE. (My skyrocket is unlocked). Just as when I put my SIM which is provisioned for LTE into my International GNote it works fine on HSPA+.
I would get the adapter and try it. Ultimately you would need a LTE provisioned SIM card for LTE.

pj_rage said:
Is #2 true? I was told by 2 different online reps and the in store rep that I would be able to keep my unlimited data plan that I've had since my iphone 3g?
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Yes you will be grandfathered into an unlimited LTE plan, but it is different than the 3g unlimited plan you have for the iphone.

pj_rage said:
Is #2 true? I was told by 2 different online reps and the in store rep that I would be able to keep my unlimited data plan that I've had since my iphone 3g?
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You need a LTE plan, will still be unlimited, will be the same price, different billing code, different internet gateway for LTE phones....

pj_rage said:
Is #2 true? I was told by 2 different online reps and the in store rep that I would be able to keep my unlimited data plan that I've had since my iphone 3g?
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You can keep your unlimited data but they need to make a change to your plan so that it is good for LTE access. It isn't likely to be a problem, but the usual recommendation is that you call them and tell them to change your plan to unlimited LTE data BEFORE you put your SIM in the Note. Once the SIM is in the Note, they might automatically change your plan, and if that removes the unlimited part, you'll have to at least go through extra rigamarole in order to get it back.

Ok, I have an iPhone 4. I did the upgrade path to the Note.
So what do I do, just turn on the Note and let it activate itself or something, and then call ATT?
Anyone want to clarify the steps to take for us clueless iPhone switchers?

Thanks for the updates on the transfer of my current unlimited plan to an LTE unlimited plan. I looked at the website again, and now see an option for an unlimited LTE plan for the same price I'm paying now. I swear I didn't see that the few times I tried to pre order earlier in the week from the website, and neither of the reps I talked to on online chat, or on the phone were able to tell me this. Should have posted here earlier lol.
Any idea when my order would ship if I ordered it tonight or tomorrow? Curious if it would actually ship tomorrow for a Monday arrival? It no longer predicts the shipping date as it did earlier in the week. Curious if I should try my luck at a store on Sunday, or order one and hope for a Monday (or maybe Saturday) delivery.

Nah it wont work

Fortunately I have a Micro Sim Adapter, so should be good to go. Looks like I have some experimenting to do.
I also still have my iPad unlimited 3G sim that I was going to try just so that it works for data.

kevroc said:
Fortunately I have a Micro Sim Adapter, so should be good to go. Looks like I have some experimenting to do.
I also still have my iPad unlimited 3G sim that I was going to try just so that it works for data.
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Same deal. You have to upgrade your iPad 3G data plan to LTE (you get keep the unlimited) before you can use it on LTE. All LTE phones use a new APN which requires your data plan have the LTE feature code. Otherwise, it won't connect at all. Call AT&T anytime, either before or after you inserted the old SIM to your phone. If you don't have the LTE data plan, the phone just won't be able to connect to the data.

So far a no go. Sim works, although it's tricky with the adapter the way the sim slots in there, kinda likes to get stuck.
No data, called AT&T and there were no help, basically said I needed a different new card as the one from the iPhone 4S wouldn't work.

My sim adapter cracked, I carefully just placed the micro sim, no adapter, into where the sim goes and it's been working fine
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I am using my iPhone 4 sim card (with adapter) in my Note and it works fine...i had to call ATT and activate the note on my line with the SIM card number and IMEI number.....didnt tell them it was an iphone 4s sim and they didnt ask...

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moto atrix and att gophone

does anyone know it i can use the moto atrix on a att gophone account?i dont use much data so that is not a problem i just dont want to sign a new 2 year contract until i see the new iphone later this year,thanks
hightechlive said:
does anyone know it i can use the moto atrix on a att gophone account?i dont use much data so that is not a problem i just dont want to sign a new 2 year contract until i see the new iphone later this year,thanks
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like prepaid? im pretty sure you can. im using some pay as you go plan with tmo
Officially it's not allowed, but if you buy the atrix outright and put your sim card in, it will work. Data is another issue, because pay-per-use data isn't allowed with smartphones on prepaid accounts. If you sign up for a plan using another phone (imei), you can put the sim in your atrix and use it without data (wifi will work fine). There are smartphone data plans, but again, the atrix isn't one of the permitted phones so you will have to use another phone to sign up, and hspa+ definitely will not work.
In other words, if you get the account set up with another smartphone, it should work. If you add a data feature, the 3G should also work, but don't hold me accountable
zoso28 said:
Officially it's not allowed, but if you buy the atrix outright and put your sim card in, it will work. Data is another issue, because pay-per-use data isn't allowed with smartphones on prepaid accounts. If you sign up for a plan using another phone (imei), you can put the sim in your atrix and use it without data (wifi will work fine). There are smartphone data plans, but again, the atrix isn't one of the permitted phones so you will have to use another phone to sign up, and hspa+ definitely will not work.
In other words, if you get the account set up with another smartphone, it should work. If you add a data feature, the 3G should also work, but don't hold me accountable
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if they dont know you have it, you're safe. ive had this same prepaid tmobile SIM since the G1 lol..

Are there different sim cards/imei's for different phones?

Got a lot of conflicting info on this.
1.Are different sims given for smart vs dumbphones? 3G vs 4G? Etc
Ie: will a smartphone not access 4g on a GoPhone sim?
2.Can a Rep on the phone identify your phone by the imei?
Thank you for any enlightening!
I may be wrong but I think the gophone sim works differently than a regular sim, there are att sims that say 3g but they work just the same as the new sim cards att is using, as far as the rep being able to tell ur phone make and model by the imei that's a yes for sure, they can detect what phone you have without you giving them that info and slap the $25 2gb data plan on your account.
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To put it simply- if the network system knows that X phone has X IMEI or even model code it shows when it connects (I777 vs say I9100) and its endorsed by them, then they'll know what it is.
Do you want to know this to avoid paying ridiculous data fees? If so, get an international unlocked/unbranded phone that your carrier never had/in their system. I've been milking dumbell data rates on my Nokia E series phones for years now and not because I use the balls out of the data, but to have that unlimited/cheap peace of mind.
When I upgraded from my Captivate to the SGS2, the AT&T clerk said I needed the 4G sim card and installed one.
retnuh said:
When I upgraded from my Captivate to the SGS2, the AT&T clerk said I needed the 4G sim card and installed one.
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I received the same treatment. With my last five phones, I've only been able to swap out the SIM cards twice — once because I bought a phone on Craigslist.
Really? I'm still on my, what is it, 4-5 year old 3G sim and no problems whatsoever.
Skv012a said:
Really? I'm still on my, what is it, 4-5 year old 3G sim and no problems whatsoever.
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I was on my old 3g Sim card as well but when i got the sgsii it wouldn't connect to the "phone" APN, i had to use the old "wap.cingular" APN. The old 3g Sims aren't provisioned on AT&T's network to access hspa.
Before getting a new Sim card, i would never get over 3Mbps down. Now i average 5 and on good days it'll peak to 7-10.
to answer the question about different Sim cards for smart phones or dumb phones; pretty sure they use the same card because when i went the other day to get a new Sim, the rep just grabbed one from a stack and activated it, there was only one stack. Also it would cost more and bee more confusing for them as company to do that.
And at&t can identify a phone over the network only if that phone is familiar to them. So if you bought an AT&T sgsii off craigslist/ebay/friend and plug in your Sim card, they'll be able to tell.
If you buy a phone that isn't sold/recognized by AT&T, most of the time they can't tell what the device.
A good check is after you put the Sim in your phone, wait a couple hours then log onto your account online and if it shows a picture of the phone your using, they can detect it.
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I have this as a gophone. They gave me a normal sim card not the go phone sim card. It has hspa + also.
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Well sim doesn't really determine what your plan allows you to do, so sims are dime a dozen. I may consider upgrading my sim if they'll be able to put my current number on a newer sim, else I'm not really concerned too much. (and, for your laughs, I'm still only using Edge to avoid having gutter battery).
bbubel said:
as far as the rep being able to tell ur phone make and model by the imei that's a yes for sure, they can detect what phone you have without you giving them that info and slap the $25 2gb data plan on your account.
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this is only partly true. IF you have a att phone they can detect what type of phone you have by your IMEI #. that number is cataloged in their systems however if you have a European phone or a unlocked phone from another carrier then no they cannot tell what phone you have.
as for sims there are 2 different types of sims (go phones I dont know) there is the regular sized sims and the micro sims. Micro's for att are used for iphone 4 and up and I believe they are the only phone for att that uses the micro sim. As for functionality of the sims no the old sims (3G) work with thier HSPA+ just the same.....
retnuh said:
When I upgraded from my Captivate to the SGS2, the AT&T clerk said I needed the 4G sim card and installed one.
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Same thing when I upgraded. But my sim was a few years old and pretty scratched up from being put in different phones so I figured even if it would work it was time to be replaced anyway.
When I bought the sgs2 the clerk was surprised I still had my Cingular Sim card and suggested I get the new one. I got to keep my Cingular relic.
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The only problem I've run into is my mms stopped working a few days after using the phone and I'm on a gophone account. My inspire works fine. Not sure if they ran an imei sweep and the sgii doesnt play nice with gophone accounts. They still had my imei as an old nokia flip phone. You don't have to have data on a gophone, but if you want internet you'll need to buy a gophone data package.
You mean you need an unlimited $50 type GoPhone account right? No one needs a data account above and beyond that.
I bought a cheap GoPhone $50 plan today...using that sim in my Note AI get tomorrow.
gadget069 said:
The only problem I've run into is my mms stopped working a few days after using the phone and I'm on a gophone account. My inspire works fine. Not sure if they ran an imei sweep and the sgii doesnt play nice with gophone accounts. They still had my imei as an old nokia flip phone. You don't have to have data on a gophone, but if you want internet you'll need to buy a gophone data package.
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at&t data plan question

I am putting my micro sim card from my 4s in my gs3 when it arrives.
I know data will work as both phones are hspa+, but should I have att switch my data from the iPhone plan to smartphone plan?
I am more concerned about mms, sms, and voicemail working properly....something with provisioning.
Thanks....
When I switched from the iPhone 4 to the Galaxy S2, I did the same and swapped sim cards and didn't switch the plan. A few days later the phone started having problems connecting to the internet and ultimately stopped working so I had to switch from the iPhone plan to the regular smartphone plan and it's been working fine ever since.
you will have to change plans
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you will have to change plans
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Thanks.
If you don't mind me asking, I see in your sig you have (or had) a One X. It has a micro sim but has to have the LTE plan w AT&T. When you put it in your gs3 did you switch back to the smartphone plan or leave it alone?
I ask because I had a One X for a couple of weeks and returned it. I put my micro sim back in my 4s until my gs3 arrives. I have a good friend who is an Assist Mgr with AT&T and he told me I'd be ok leaving the data plan alone because LTE falls back on hspa+. The "play it safe" in me ended up having him revert it back to the iph plan anyway as messages/emails are a critical part of my job.
dmlv said:
Thanks.
If you don't mind me asking, I see in your sig you have (or had) a One X. It has a micro sim but has to have the LTE plan w AT&T. When you put it in your gs3 did you switch back to the smartphone plan or leave it alone?
I ask because I had a One X for a couple of weeks and returned it. I put my micro sim back in my 4s until my gs3 arrives. I have a good friend who is an Assist Mgr with AT&T and he told me I'd be ok leaving the data plan alone because LTE falls back on hspa+. The "play it safe" in me ended up having him revert it back to the iph plan anyway as messages/emails are a critical part of my job.
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I had a skyrocket and it had an lte plan with an lte simcard. Well I sold it right away and kept my captivate. Had no problems with lte sim in other phone.
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Galaxy Note on Tmobile 4g Prepaid plan

So we know the Note can work on Tmobile's network.. as well as HSPA+... And for $60 tmobile offers Prepaid Unlimited everything 4g.. although 4g cuts out at 2gb then on to 3g... well just wondering if anyone's done this? Are the sim cards the same size.. and is it possible to port a phone# to a tmobile prepaid plan? I know I could possibly find this info if I dug around but I'm on the road and shouldn't be even writing this.. can't beat speech to txt..
I gotta have that speech to text app. Never saw one that good before.
Agoattamer said:
I gotta have that speech to text app. Never saw one that good before.
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Plus 1 bravo. Mabey he is just very well spoken
"Since God created man, and man created the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy Note are like a gift from God, Randal!"
tri0xinn said:
So we know the Note can work on Tmobile's network.. as well as HSPA+... And for $60 tmobile offers Prepaid Unlimited everything 4g.. although 4g cuts out at 2gb then on to 3g... well just wondering if anyone's done this? Are the sim cards the same size.. and is it possible to port a phone# to a tmobile prepaid plan? I know I could possibly find this info if I dug around but I'm on the road and shouldn't be even writing this.. can't beat speech to txt..
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I just moved from att to t-mo's $30-100min- unlim. text and data monthly 4g plan. The sim is the same size- standard. When you get your plan activated, you will be assigned a number. When you are up and running on t-mo, you need to call their porting number. They will get it rolling, and in 2-24 hrs depending, your att# will be active on the t-mo sim and your att sim will be dead. Your att account will also be dead. Your old t-mo # will be replaced by the att #. Order your sim online for $1.99 from t-mobile.com. Make sure you get the whole activation kit. You can only get the 100 minute plan online. The other 4g monthly plans you can do over the phone.
And please don't text and drive!
sashusmom said:
I just moved from att to t-mo's $30-100min- unlim. text and data monthly 4g plan. The sim is the same size- standard. When you get your plan activated, you will be assigned a number. When you are up and running on t-mo, you need to call their porting number. They will get it rolling, and in 2-24 hrs depending, your att# will be active on the t-mo sim and your att sim will be dead. Your att account will also be dead. Your old t-mo # will be replaced by the att #. Order your sim online for $1.99 from t-mobile.com. Make sure you get the whole activation kit. You can only get the 100 minute plan online. The other 4g monthly plans you can do over the phone.
And please don't text and drive!
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Hi Sashusmom!
Agree with you. Good place to post a reminder like that, considering EVERYONE who comes here has a phone, and prolly more than half "text & drive"... Driving & Texting is like suicide/homicide without "making the plans".... Its a numbers game, with every text you send/read while driving, your odds increase for a disaster...
K ::::::getting down off soapbox::::: : )
Thanks for your post, i have a few Q's:
1. Did you have to change the APN Settings?
2. And this was on a AT&T Note, not the Int'l version?
3. And what happens if & when u DO run out of min?
3B : ) Is there a way to add min?
4. Can this be done same on Int'l Note?
ty!
Ms D
Yea Im wondering about this plan as well Im guessing I need to get my phone unlocked before going to tmoble if I have the ATT note
im running t mobile prepaid now and have been since the galaxy s2 which got 4g might i add..all i did was unlock the phone by going to unlock my phone.com. Then rooted with the unofficial beta 2 version 4.. Everything works fine no forced closes no difference it all works just as i said.. The radio you need is ucld3 but its built into the rom so good luck..no close this thread
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thanks for the reply's... I think I'm gonna do this, also I am currently with Sprint paying 99 for the unlimited everything plan.. plus premium 4g..plus tax.. plus insurance makes my bill around $118... So I'd be saving a great deal on either the tmobile4g prepaid or with Straight Talk unlimited everything at $45 .. that would save me more than $800 a year!
So now I need to decide between straight talk via tmobile(see website) for everything $45 or Tmobile at 60 for the same service(I guess). Sounds like Straight Talk uses either ATT or Tmobile towers depending which phone you choose. Any experience with this anyone? Also would I be better off with a international version Note or Att version Note?... I watched a youtube video of a guy doing speedtests using straight talk and the international version of the Note and it looks great!>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsNggiZeZ6I&feature=related
Also I was sitting in my car at Mcdonalds when I posted originally.. and I was using the Microphone button to txt.. with a bit of typing.
The 4g Plans can be used for the Note? I noticed that the website said for Tmobile capable phones. Tmobile bring your own phone plans require a two year contract. SMH.

Swapping sim cards between an amaze and iphone 4s

I'm currently on TMobile's prepaid $30 plan, unlimited data and texts, 100 minutes. If I put my sim card in an iPhone 4s, everything would be fine except for the settings for MMS, etc? Obviously, it has to be unlocked, etc.
Would I have to do this everytime I swap the sim between both phones?
Thanks guys!
steveruv said:
I'm currently on TMobile's prepaid $30 plan, unlimited data and texts, 100 minutes. If I put my sim card in an iPhone 4s, everything would be fine except for the settings for MMS, etc? Obviously, it has to be unlocked, etc.
Would I have to do this everytime I swap the sim between both phones?
Thanks guys!
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iPhone requires a microSIM card. The amaze is regular SIM.
Also the iPhone wouldn't work at all without the device being sim unlocked to begin with and the data/mms will work fine once the appropriate apn settings are applied.
You can see if the Gevey sim would work for you and cut the sim down which you would need a micro to regular sim adapter. I use it with me amaze n have no issues.
Live and Die on this day....
Not trying to start anything but why would you choose an iPhone over the Amaze? Unless its not completely changed...
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Thanks for the replies guys. I forgot to add that I do know about the phone being factory unlocked, etc, hehe.
As for why the iPhone over the Amaze? I actually like the best of both worlds between Android and IOS. Also, am looking into possibly doing the Straight Talk plan, and I would be able to use it on both phones since its running on AT&T's towers, and I would be able that sim card on both Amaze and iPhone.

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