Hi,
I was very happy to get the asus transformer prime. Switching menus, in app performance were very good...until i tried some very heavy browsing (espn.go.com/boxing for example or theverge.com). Let me tell you, the browsing on this thing is horrible. I really don't understand. Everything else is so fast, it is actually faster than my ipad 2 and samsung galaxy tab 10.1 for in app performance but when it comes to browsing, it is so sluggish. My samsung tab 10.1 on honeycomb kills it. I really wonder, will this be fixed in the next update or its just like that. I tried disabling flash, performance increases by 5x...is flash 11 not optimised for ICS? Also, chrome doesnt lag as much as the stock browser. How will this be fixed
Weel, Hw accel might be causing issues and if the site is mem leaking, that could also slow you down. And flash is optimized for ICS but I don't think its well done. Oh, and make sure you got performance mode enabled.
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I use mines in balanced mode and leave that hardware acceleration option in developers settings off. My browsers are super fast. Even stock. Really no matter which one I use. My favs. Are ICS+ browser and Boat browser. At the beginning stock browser use to be slow n i hated n hardly used it. Now after ICS, its fast as a mofo. Couldn't believe it. I use it alot now or ICS+ browser.
demandarin said:
I use mines in balanced mode and leave that hardware acceleration option in developers settings off. My browsers are super fast. Even stock. Really no matter which one I use. My favs. Are ICS+ browser and Boat browser. At the beginning stock browser use to be slow n i hated n hardly used it. Now after ICS, its fast as a mofo. Couldn't believe it. I use it alot now or ICS+ browser.
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My experience with the prime have been exactly the same
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i have tried all the things you guys said, it helps a little bit but it's not as good as my samsung tab 10.1...I find it really strange, my prime is killing the tab 10.1 in everything except the browsing. Btw i also noticed that i am on the build of 17 january version.11 from canada. I tried to make a firmware update but it says that this is the latest version availab.e Do you know if the next update is supposed to help the performance issues?
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My experience with the prime have been exactly the same
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Ditto except I use Dolphin...
ramih2085 said:
i have tried all the things you guys said, it helps a little bit but it's not as good as my samsung tab 10.1...I find it really strange, my prime is killing the tab 10.1 in everything except the browsing. Btw i also noticed that i am on the build of 17 january version.11 from canada. I tried to make a firmware update but it says that this is the latest version availab.e Do you know if the next update is supposed to help the performance issues?
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any update on this?
I am having same issue as you - very laggy browsing and even some lag in youtube/mail
I use Boat browser in balanced mode and it performs quiet well. I have to say at this point in time none of the browsers work as well as Chrome or Firefox on my Linux box. I suspect this will change as apps mature and optimized for ICS.
try opening more tabs
Personally everything is working super smooth on my prime. Tried checking out the websites mentioned and they all are super smooth on my prime.
I recall reading somewhere that it helps to open more tabs in the browser. That way all four cores kick in instead of using just the fifth core for low cpu usage apps and tasks.
Just a thought.
mrkool44 said:
any update on this?
I am having same issue as you - very laggy browsing and even some lag in youtube/mail
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Are you still on honeycomb? I think the OP was since is the only reason i can think of why he has browser lag. Should be smooth on ICS. As far as youtube and email what kind of lag are you getting?
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Chrome Beta in balanced or performance and its really fast, power save its still good but not as good.
returned prime
after resetting it several times and making a post here (which a mod deleted lol b/c i told the truth about the problems i had with my prime...i guess honesty is not allowed here?)
I ended up returning the prime back to staples.
it was running ICS latest ver shipped. i used chrome beta. i used dolphin hd. i used stock.
all of them were jittery and laggy. pinch zoom was even lagging.
My samsung galaxy was better in terms of performance.
Also, I bought a transformer tf101 last year..the orig ver.. and guess what? i had the same problems.
it was laggy...youtube vids were stuttering..browsing was weak... and now..with the new prime a year later..it still blows.
it was junk...web browsing on it was a joke...very laggy and just not very smooth in terms of scrolling ..it was just hard to use.
the colors on the screen looked faded out compared to other android tabs.
overall..just not a tab that u can depend on when youre in a hurry and need to check the web without having any glitches...
i ended up buying ipad 3. its way way better than prime..sorry guys..
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My samsung galaxy was better in terms of performance.
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Pretty much the same which you wouldn't expect comparing two different generations of CPU/GPU.
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yeah yeah...lol. I could post charts to show otherwise favoring tegra3 but this a never ending thing. ill let you think your Samsung performing better..lmfao.
mrkool44 said:
after resetting it several times and making a post here (which a mod deleted lol b/c i told the truth about the problems i had with my prime...i guess honesty is not allowed here?)
I ended up returning the prime back to staples.
it was running ICS latest ver shipped. i used chrome beta. i used dolphin hd. i used stock.
all of them were jittery and laggy. pinch zoom was even lagging.
My samsung galaxy was better in terms of performance.
Also, I bought a transformer tf101 last year..the orig ver.. and guess what? i had the same problems.
it was laggy...youtube vids were stuttering..browsing was weak... and now..with the new prime a year later..it still blows.
it was junk...web browsing on it was a joke...very laggy and just not very smooth in terms of scrolling ..it was just hard to use.
the colors on the screen looked faded out compared to other android tabs.
overall..just not a tab that u can depend on when youre in a hurry and need to check the web without having any glitches...
i ended up buying ipad 3. its way way better than prime..sorry guys..
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cool story bro
Techreport did a review of the original Transformer with Ice Cream. They made several comments about the Prime with ICS having issues that wasn't in last years model with updated software.
I could look at charts showing how great the Tegra 3 is too but it won't make my studdering browsers go away.
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Techreport did a review of the original Transformer with Ice Cream. They made several comments about the Prime with ICS having issues that wasn't in last years model with updated software.
I could look at charts showing how great the Tegra 3 is too but it won't make my studdering browsers go away.
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last year model has its own ics issues that prime doesnt have. it was actually a huge problem. several tech articles on it. says just recently released a patch to hopefully fix it.
No device immune to sw issues.
demandarin said:
I use mines in balanced mode and leave that hardware acceleration option in developers settings off. My browsers are super fast. Even stock. Really no matter which one I use. My favs. Are ICS+ browser and Boat browser. At the beginning stock browser use to be slow n i hated n hardly used it. Now after ICS, its fast as a mofo. Couldn't believe it. I use it alot now or ICS+ browser.
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Same here. It's fast.
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yeah yeah...lol. I could post charts to show otherwise favoring tegra3 but this a never ending thing.
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Basically, unless apps are Teg optimized, the performance benefit isn't that dramatic. Games and local video playback will be greatly improved (over Teg2), everything else not so much. Nvidia never met their sales targets with Teg2 and, with it almost April, probably won't hit their already lowered Teg3 targets for 2012 either. They can show optimized benchmarks and a handful of optimized games playing exceptionally well all they want. If 5% of apps available are optimized it's all an illusion. App developers never rallied around Teg2 so there's no reason to believe they'll rally around Teg3 either. The S4 creamed Teg3 in all but optimized benchmarks which, in everyday use, is how most people will judge the performance of their devices.
And we already know that, in your mind, there never has been and never will be a tablet as fantastic as the Prime, a chip as stupendous as Teg3, or a chip maker as skilled as Nvidia. Let's go with that.
I just opened both webpages in eco mode and both loaded, scrolled and worked smooth.
I'm using stock browser and HW acceleration enabled.
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I have tried to play flash videos on multiple sites and on 6 different browsers and the only site that performs well is Youtube.
Also, is it impossible to keep flash running in a tab and then switch to another tab while keeping flash running? Anytime I open a flash video or audio stream in a browser tab, it closes immediately when I switch to another tab (this happens on all 6 browsers that I tested). I bought this as a laptop replacement so this is very disappointing and I am most likely returning it. Is there anyway to remedy these issues or should i just stick with a laptop?
Thanks for any help.
Yes. I have experienced this as well, but both ics and flash for ics is very new.
I think performance will certainly improve as updates from adobe and Asus roll out.
Now with flash stopping when you switch tabs, this is the default behavior and I don't think that it can be changed. It can be a little annoying but totally makes sense as I don't want flash eating up resources when I am not actively using it. For streaming music and whatnot there is always an app for whatever service I use.
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Prime has more than enough power to push flash..lmao this isn't on the prime. Adobe flash in general still needs to be updated and optimized for ICS. They released an update just recently for ICS support but still needs tweaking. The 2 best browsers to use for best flash performance is Stock browser that came with prime and Boat browser. Plus flash playback is also dependent on your connection speed. I have no problem watching flash movies through various sites. As far as the tab thing, why would you have a movie playing in one tab and open a new one? That'll be just burning up the battery anyways. Might be dependent on the site you opened up. Web browsers are RAM intensive. So it'll likely just pause the movie or whatever till you comeback. Plus that gives movie a lil time to buffer anyways.
Overall Flash plays pretty well for me considering ICS support just came out and more will come.
flash on android has never been good...stock ics has best flash experience but still it rebooted my prime a few times...
lets move html5 and not get left behind...
Flash works great on my prime, I know id be frustrated not having this with a certain fruity tablet when web browsing
after the last flash update, i lost the ability to stream a flash movie full screen over hdmi. Used to work fine before...
for those waiting for more updates i thought adobe said they were done supporting flash on mobile?
So I'm guessing 1080p flash works fine right?
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Looks like I will be returning the Prime today due to the horrible implementation of Flash. I can just barely load a simple flash stream on 6 different browsers and then of course there's the nonexistent multitasking.
Not trying to cause a stir, I just had very high hopes for this as being a laptop replacement and it failed miserably. Hopefully you goes who stick with it will get some performance upgrades in the future via software upgrades.
mikesaint27 said:
Looks like I will be returning the Prime today due to the horrible implementation of Flash. I can just barely load a simple flash stream on 6 different browsers and then of course there's the nonexistent multitasking.
Not trying to cause a stir, I just had very high hopes for this as being a laptop replacement and it failed miserably. Hopefully you goes who stick with it will get some performance upgrades in the future via software upgrades.
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Is this because the prime seems to not allow you to watch your "Special" flash videos n movies? Lmfao. . Gotta have those working 24/7..lol
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Is this because the prime seems to not allow you to watch your "Special" flash videos n movies? Lmfao. . Gotta have those working 24/7..lol
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On any $200 netbook i could open a stream of a sports game in one tab and browse in another without the stream stopping, but not on the $500 prime...
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On any $200 netbook i could open a stream of a sports game in one tab and browse in another without the stream stopping, but not on the $500 prime...
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That has nothing to do with the Prime. Thats due to how Abode implemented flash on Android. It doesn't play in the background on any Android device I've ever tried. Seen as they aren't developing flash anymore either, I wouldn't be too hopeful for a change in that situation.
I understand the frustration with playing flash in the background.
I have the same issues. And especially when it comes to youtube. I want to be able to open a youtube music video in a tab and switch back to whatever i was doing, and listen to the music
This is not the poor flash implementation on an android device. It's the youtube's new policy that you have to be watching the video while it's playing ( so you could see all the stupid banners and commercials)
This has been a huge topic on youtube forums and ppl were very annoyed of the changed.
You have to have youtube on your active tab or it will pause.
Funny that PC computers didn't adopt the new policy. That's why ppl got pissed.
PS: people downgraded their android firmware to be able to use the old youtube in the background. But you loose all the goodies of the upgrades
Why would you want that?
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On any $200 netbook i could open a stream of a sports game in one tab and browse in another without the stream stopping, but not on the $500 prime...
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There is really not enough screen real estate to be brawsing while watching a flash video. Besides why would you want multiple videos playing in different tabs, all the audio playing simultaneously, fo waht possible purpose?
Finally, has anyone tried opening a separate browser and multitasking in that? I would test myself, but my Prime is in Grapevine Texas, about to be manhandled, butchered and beat upon by Asus Warranty service morons.... The Texas Chainsaw Massacre has nothing on whats happening to my poor tablet. Shudder
I'm not sure if it's any help, but I've had no problems with Flash on my TFP. I was actually thinking to myself "Apparently it takes 4 cores to make Flash work smoothly on a mobile device." I've been able to watch HD videos on thedailyshow.com, engadget.com and Penny Arcade TV with no slowdowns.
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There is really not enough screen real estate to be brawsing while watching a flash video. Besides why would you want multiple videos playing in different tabs, all the audio playing simultaneously, fo waht possible purpose?
Finally, has anyone tried opening a separate browser and multitasking in that? I would test myself, but my Prime is in Grapevine Texas, about to be manhandled, butchered and beat upon by Asus Warranty service morons.... The Texas Chainsaw Massacre has nothing on whats happening to my poor tablet. Shudder
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I think the main challenge is to be able to listen to video music from flash based websites (in the background), while reading this forum (on the active tab)
I'm surprised that this issue is only annoying to a few people.
Don't you have a youtube playlist playing in the background while you browse ?(on a PC)
Nobody wants to "see" different movies in multiple background tabs at the same time.
On a side note.. i doubt android is a platform that works bad with Flash.. i wonder what are people comparing it to. I've had symbian, android, win mo and iOS handsets and I'm pretty sure none of those played better flash.
It reminds me of "white people problems" posters
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mikesaint27 said:
Looks like I will be returning the Prime today due to the horrible implementation of Flash. I can just barely load a simple flash stream on 6 different browsers and then of course there's the nonexistent multitasking.
Not trying to cause a stir, I just had very high hopes for this as being a laptop replacement and it failed miserably. Hopefully you goes who stick with it will get some performance upgrades in the future via software upgrades.
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Sounds like you had unrealistic expectations for a tablet running a mobile OS. Flash does not continue to run when you switch to other apps or tabs because it is eating up your battery and other resources, this is a feature not a bug (though the option would be great). My prime currently runs flash fine (Dolphin HD). I don't think you should try making the prime work for you however, you clearly want a laptop.
Flash was good
mikesaint27 said:
Looks like I will be returning the Prime today due to the horrible implementation of Flash. I can just barely load a simple flash stream on 6 different browsers and then of course there's the nonexistent multitasking.
Not trying to cause a stir, I just had very high hopes for this as being a laptop replacement and it failed miserably. Hopefully you goes who stick with it will get some performance upgrades in the future via software upgrades.
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While I returned my prime for the WIFI/BT fallout issue, I have to say that flash performance was great.
I could go to ESPN and watch the games they had, streaming in high quality with no stutter and it looked good on the screen. Vimeo, youtube, ign, really had no issues with flash on it using the stock browser in ICS.
mikesaint27 said:
I have tried to play flash videos on multiple sites and on 6 different browsers and the only site that performs well is Youtube.
Also, is it impossible to keep flash running in a tab and then switch to another tab while keeping flash running? Anytime I open a flash video or audio stream in a browser tab, it closes immediately when I switch to another tab (this happens on all 6 browsers that I tested). I bought this as a laptop replacement so this is very disappointing and I am most likely returning it. Is there anyway to remedy these issues or should i just stick with a laptop?
Thanks for any help.
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I am currently running ICS (I have enabled force gpu rendering in developer settings).
I am using ICS Browser + (agent string desktop version)
I have tried viewing videos on the following pages
ESPN
Buttery smooth (full screen and integrated)
CNN
Buttery smooth (full screen and integrated)
College Humor
Buttery smooth (integrated)
Hope this helps!
Brandon
I believe dolphin hd has an extension so that u can have side by side pages. I wonder if flash would still play like that?
Edit: its an app called dual web browser.
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I own a samsung galaxy tab 10.1 and also own a ipad 2.
I just bought a Transformer Prime tablet yesterday
...and its so buggy..I can't believe its being touted as the best andriod tab...(my samsung galaxy was better)
I'm an andriod fan...so I really want an andriod tablet that is as snappy and smooth as ipad 2.
in comes Transformer Prime. Everywhere I read how fast it is and how great the screen is and how it's an "ipad kiler".
Is it just me...or does this tablet fall really really short ?
(note: my wifi and gps both work fine...speed tested was 25 mb down ..same as my ipad/galaxy tab)
1. Although its fast to move between home screens, the tablet is noticeably laggy when using MOST apps: i.e: web browsing , youtube , mail.
- browser is slow to touch response, and is sooooo choppy/laggy...its just a total joke compared to ipad 2.
Browsing the web with this tablet is a total joke...I don't see how you guys do it?
My galaxy 10.1 was much smoother in comparison (which itself was a bit laggy)
- youtube works decently well...but the screen turns black when you rotate from landscape to portrait and vice versa...when doing this...there is screen flicker as it hides the rest of the screen ... lol so bad
- screen: super ips? are you kidding me? the colors look sooo faint compared to ipad2 and galaxy tab. The colors are the best on samsung galaxy tab... and worst on prime. And this is supposed to be a great screen? gimme a break...The font sucks...its so small n skinny...hard to read.
- Overall: its very slow! Main lag is web browsing...
- Market: I have no idea why they "updated" market to the new layout..it really sucks..and looks very cheap ..old one was much better imo
So, I'm obv ready to return this thing...but before I do..wanted to know if you all are experiencing these issues...or do i have a bad peice or what???
HI
My TF201 is very fast and smooth. It runs with Android 4.0.
Only the browser crashes sometimes (.15 Update).
My GPS has no signal, but who the hell needs GPS in a Tablet. I have a smartphone, much handier.
Overall, i would buy the TF201 again.
mrkool44 said:
I own a samsung galaxy tab 10.1 and also own a ipad 2.
I just bought a Transformer Prime tablet yesterday
...and its so buggy..I can't believe its being touted as the best andriod tab...(my samsung galaxy was better)
I'm an andriod fan...so I really want an andriod tablet that is as snappy and smooth as ipad 2.
in comes Transformer Prime. Everywhere I read how fast it is and how great the screen is and how it's an "ipad kiler".
Is it just me...or does this tablet fall really really short ?
(note: my wifi and gps both work fine...speed tested was 25 mb down ..same as my ipad/galaxy tab)
1. Although its fast to move between home screens, the tablet is noticeably laggy when using MOST apps: i.e: web browsing , youtube , mail.
- browser is slow to touch response, and is sooooo choppy/laggy...its just a total joke compared to ipad 2.
Browsing the web with this tablet is a total joke...I don't see how you guys do it?
My galaxy 10.1 was much smoother in comparison (which itself was a bit laggy)
- youtube works decently well...but the screen turns black when you rotate from landscape to portrait and vice versa...when doing this...there is screen flicker as it hides the rest of the screen ... lol so bad
- screen: super ips? are you kidding me? the colors look sooo faint compared to ipad2 and galaxy tab. The colors are the best on samsung galaxy tab... and worst on prime. And this is supposed to be a great screen? gimme a break...The font sucks...its so small n skinny...hard to read.
- Overall: its very slow! Main lag is web browsing...
- Market: I have no idea why they "updated" market to the new layout..it really sucks..and looks very cheap ..old one was much better imo
So, I'm obv ready to return this thing...but before I do..wanted to know if you all are experiencing these issues...or do i have a bad peice or what???
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Here is some information for you.
1. Proper IPS screens are CORRECT. Over-colored Samsung screens are not. Better looking does not equal proper looking. When you print any image, it will be closer to your prime than your Samsung.
2. Did you update to the latest version? I never had any browser issues and its much faster than my iPad2 - on top of that, this is Android - put any god damn browser you like on it. Chrome although in beta, works great.
3. Put your tablet in performance mode.
4. Youtube does flikker sometimes, but only when typing in search. I've never had a black screen while rotating or whenever.
Overall, hhis tablet is much smoother than any other tablet - I'm a developer and I have them all - so I'm not just talking.
Somehow it makes me think you are using the prime in power saver mode - because this does make the display extremely ugly and the device laggy.
It must be you. My prime screams. Everything is perfect. The screen is bright. The fonts are pretty. No lag time. Hell even my gps and wifi work.
It has its issues but its a great tablet. Way better then the iFlop/2 or any other Apple product I have ever used, but that's my personal opinion. My browser is buggy so I stopped using it but that's a issue with ICS in my opinion all the ICS devices I have used have the problem. Use Chrome Beta (havent had one crash) or FF if you cant stand crashing. Youtube does that on my Thrive and my Inspire so its the app from my standpoint.
+1 for making sure your not in power save mode.
Also to traxxus I see you agree, you didn't buy this to be a 10" version of a Garmin did you lol.
Also why are you blaming the Prime for the market changing, that was Google's change not ASUS, every device is getting that update.
You probably dont have the same prime as i do^^ But hey you have the GalaxyTab and the Ipad2 why dont you just stick with them if they're better. Sell your prime and chill
Honest question, do you work for apple and were being told to come here and make bad posts about the prime? It just seems so obvious
(dont take me that serious)
another day, another stupid thread
mrkool44 said:
I own a samsung galaxy tab 10.1 and also own a ipad 2.
I just bought a Transformer Prime tablet yesterday
...and its so buggy..I can't believe its being touted as the best andriod tab...(my samsung galaxy was better)
I'm an andriod fan...so I really want an andriod tablet that is as snappy and smooth as ipad 2.
in comes Transformer Prime. Everywhere I read how fast it is and how great the screen is and how it's an "ipad kiler".
Is it just me...or does this tablet fall really really short ?
(note: my wifi and gps both work fine...speed tested was 25 mb down ..same as my ipad/galaxy tab)
1. Although its fast to move between home screens, the tablet is noticeably laggy when using MOST apps: i.e: web browsing , youtube , mail.
- browser is slow to touch response, and is sooooo choppy/laggy...its just a total joke compared to ipad 2.
Browsing the web with this tablet is a total joke...I don't see how you guys do it?
My galaxy 10.1 was much smoother in comparison (which itself was a bit laggy)
- youtube works decently well...but the screen turns black when you rotate from landscape to portrait and vice versa...when doing this...there is screen flicker as it hides the rest of the screen ... lol so bad
- screen: super ips? are you kidding me? the colors look sooo faint compared to ipad2 and galaxy tab. The colors are the best on samsung galaxy tab... and worst on prime. And this is supposed to be a great screen? gimme a break...The font sucks...its so small n skinny...hard to read.
- Overall: its very slow! Main lag is web browsing...
- Market: I have no idea why they "updated" market to the new layout..it really sucks..and looks very cheap ..old one was much better imo
So, I'm obv ready to return this thing...but before I do..wanted to know if you all are experiencing these issues...or do i have a bad peice or what???
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go back to your ipad and apple forums, why bother coming here to troll?
Its just your device
do people do this same kind of crap on like car forums? like go to a forum for a car they don't like and just bash it ? i really cant stand people and i think i find this more the case the older i get.
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do people do this same kind of crap on like car forums? like go to a forum for a car they don't like and just bash it ? i really cant stand people and i think i find this more the case the older i get.
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No but car manufacturers dont sue each other either just because their rear mirrors or steering wheels look the same.
The mobile phone/tablet industry often reminds me of babies in a sandbox argueing about who the molds belong to... And so do the users sometimes
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do people do this same kind of crap on like car forums? like go to a forum for a car they don't like and just bash it ? i really cant stand people and i think i find this more the case the older i get.
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unfortunately Yes. lol. funny how these posts mostly come from someone new who popped up suddenly..lol. this thread won't last long.
lol all these posts just clutter this forum with nonsense.
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unfortunately Yes. lol. funny how these posts mostly come from someone new who popped up suddenly..lol. this thread won't last long.
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Yeah I find this true as well. I for a brief time was looking at a ford mustang ( until I went to a showroom and tried to test drive and and a salesperson told me they don't allow joy rides. Little did that idiot know I make a six figure income and could afford it. I was 22 at the time but you never judge a book by its cover come on!) and yes, while on mustang forums all the camaro people came to the forum and spread their Chevy gospel lol.
So its perfectly normal.
To the op, yes it has some software problems but it is A KILLER tablet. Make sure you are up to date.
The prime is MUCH faster than my droid razr and its got a pimped out version of aokp. Much love for droid theory and crew!
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texstar said:
My prime screams. Everything is perfect. The screen is bright. The fonts are pretty. No lag time. Hell even my gps and wifi work.
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that was funny as hell ^^^^^^t
To the OP,
If its that bad of an experience for you, just return it. You will be more happy in the long run. For myself, I love my prime.
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Did you do a factory reset after updating to ICS? It's a known issue that you really need to do a full reset after upgrading. My prime was a nightmare at first, I mean every single program would crash repeatedly, stock browser was one of the worst offenders. I'd gotten the prime and upgraded to ICS immediately before doing anything on the tablet at all. Then I found someone mentioning doing the full reset after upgrading and I tried it and it was a night and day difference. I mean literally I went from a program crash every 5 minutes to once a day if that.
Give that a try before giving up. And if that doesn't fix it, it's probably a bad unit. The prime definitely has some problems and to be honest ICS isn't really a fully mature OS yet imo, but what you're experiencing is not the norm for a properly functioning prime on the latest ICS build.
And for all the people saying troll go home, maybe he asked in a somewhat antagonizing way but he has a legitimate gripe. What do you think is better for primes, androids in general and this guy specifically? Telling him to go away or maybe helping him solve what's obviously a problem with his specific prime and bringing another happy prime owner into the fold?
As a new prime owner, I'm kinda disappointed. Nevermind about the gps.
My main beef is it doesn't feel fast. My stock uk 2.3.4 Galaxy S ii feels a lot faster. I'm thinking large websites heavy graphics, the Prime's is struggling with i/o.
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I kinda think it's the person using it
So I came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs3ZiPQl-U&feature=youtu.be&t=21m49s
It shows the sgs3 playing a video and running shadowgun at the same time seemingly flawlessly. I've always been pro-HTC, I went from the Touch Pro to the Evo and now I plan to get the EVO LTE. But despite my fanboyism, I have realized that HTC products usually don't perform as well as their samsung rivals in real world usage despite what the numbers and processors should theoretically be doing. I figured the Evo LTE and just about any high-end phone released in the past year can run everything on the market, who cares? Then I see something like this and it blows my mind. I'm almost tempted to jump ship.. but we'll see. What are your thoughts?
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So I came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs3ZiPQl-U&feature=youtu.be&t=21m49s
It shows the sgs3 playing a video and running shadowgun at the same time seemingly flawlessly. I've always been pro-HTC, I went from the Touch Pro to the Evo and now I plan to get the EVO LTE. But despite my fanboyism, I have realized that HTC products usually don't perform as well as their samsung rivals in real world usage despite what the numbers and processors should theoretically be doing. I figured the Evo LTE and just about any high-end phone released in the past year can run everything on the market, who cares? Then I see something like this and it blows my mind. I'm almost tempted to jump ship.. but we'll see. What are your thoughts?
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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It's a new feature of the sgs3. It's a cool, novel feature I suppose. Maybe if you're playing a game and wanna watch a video of someone else doing it or something. But I'm more impressed with how well it did it all at once!
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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click the link and you'll see. lol
thats honestly kinda cool there...not sure how often id use it but it brings PIP back in play but now on mobile phones.....though I hate TouchWiz with a passion so no way im going that route...
whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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Agreed. At least for mobile phones... Could have some usage on tablets like taking a timed class and watching a video to pass the time.
The 24nm Krait S4 Snapdragon is a very capable chip. It should have no problems doing what you're video is doing or even running 2 HD movies simultaneously while running background tasks all simultaneously even on a screen as demanding as the new Evo's.
Samsung has done alot on the software side of things ..to me its more of a wow factor than something that I would ever use. If your in a store and stuck between two phones ..they show a gs3 doing pip and your sold ..not for me ..a cool but useless feature as well as the s talk or whatever it is ..I just don't imagine using it ..its a good phone tho ..you don't have to iuse those features ..to me the new evo is more desirable..and I believe the s4 is 28nm
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Samsung has done alot on the software side of things ..to me its more of a wow factor than something that I would ever use. If your in a store and stuck between two phones ..they show a gs3 doing pip and your sold ..not for me ..a cool but useless feature as well as the s talk or whatever it is ..I just don't imagine using it ..its a good phone tho ..you don't have to iuse those features ..to me the new evo is more desirable..and I believe the s4 is 28nm
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You sir are correct, apologies for the typo. The Krait s4 snapdragons are indeed 28nm.
I have no doubt the EVO 4G LTE could do this, and probably the galaxy s2 as well. What I really don't know is why you would need or want to do this other than to showoff.
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whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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You could write notes, respond to a text, make an appointment, send an email, etc, without having to pause and back out of the video you are watching.
I think its far from pointless. People seem to assign the words "pointless" "useless" and "gimmick" to any feature that doesn't fit their personal lifestyle. Keep an open mind
Samsung says this is something new and groundbreaking that just came out with. BS!!! There is already an app in the Play Store that can do this on the phone in your hand right now. Check out app developers MBFG, I believe they may even be a XDA member. They have an app called OverSkreen that allows you to have a webpage on top of any other screen on your device. I use OverSkreen on my tablet and love it! They have another app that plays videos on top of any other screen just like the Galaxy S3, it's called Stick It! (and yes the "!" is part of the app's name, lol). Check it out. Funny Samsung lies saying how they created the idea an that the GS3 is the only phone that can do this, when in fact any Android phone with the app Stick It!! can do it!!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.stickit
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The PIP function on the SG3 is not new. There is an app in the market called stick it, for $1.49 that does the same thing. I bought it a couple weeks ago, and it works very well, even though honestly, there isnt really any practical use for it. Many of the software tweaks that samsung is bui8ldin ginto the SG3 are impressive, but not original. You can duplicate just about every functionality they bragged about at the announcement with apps found in the market, or on custom roms readily available for most phones. Ultimately, because the US version will not have the quad core processor, and because i have always found samsung phones to feel cheap in my hand, im going with HTC, whose build quality is usually very good. Oh yeah, that and the pen tile screen on the SG3.... thats a deal breaker for me too
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The PIP function on the SG3 is not new. There is an app in the market called stick it, for $1.49 that does the same thing. I bought it a couple weeks ago, and it works very well, even though honestly, there isnt really any practical use for it. Many of the software tweaks that samsung is bui8ldin ginto the SG3 are impressive, but not original. You can duplicate just about every functionality they bragged about at the announcement with apps found in the market, or on custom roms readily available for most phones. Ultimately, because the US version will not have the quad core processor, and because i have always found samsung phones to feel cheap in my hand, im going with HTC, whose build quality is usually very good. Oh yeah, that and the pen tile screen on the SG3.... thats a deal breaker for me too
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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Theoretically, probably. In reality, probably not, if the EVO LTE has the multitasking issue that the ONE X has, which it probably will as HTC customized the multitasking to be so aggressive/ineffective. Really bummed about this. I hope all this is not the case. Show me wrong, HTC.
This concerns me.
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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Check out my post above the one you quoted. I mentioned that app as well, but commenting because you should also try out the web browser I aso mentioned. It's by the same dev as the floating video app. OverSkreen is the browsers name and it's awesome!!
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Back to the topic at hand...
Theoretically, probably. In reality, probably not, if the EVO LTE has the multitasking issue that the ONE X has, which it probably will as HTC customized the multitasking to be so aggressive/ineffective. Really bummed about this. I hope all this is not the case. Show me wrong, HTC.
This concerns me.
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Regardless of HTC botching the multi-tasking of Android, our EVOs will still be able to do this easily. Did you forget what website you're on??
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Regardless of HTC botching the multi-tasking of Android, our EVOs will still be able to do this easily. Did you forget what website you're on??
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After custom rom kernel whatevers, sure. Out of the box, might not be able to. Dunno yet
I can Skype and surf the web!
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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my first thanks! welcome!
Hey all, I am looking to get a tablet and have two options for the same price. I can get the prime with keyboard dock and other accessories or an infinity. From what I've read so far they are very similar except for the screen. I'm leaning towards the prime since it has the accessories.
I'm def going to root it asap, so I wanted to get some opinions. Do any of you have the keyboard?? Is it worth it vs the infinity??
Thanks!
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Hey all, I am looking to get a tablet and have two options for the same price. I can get the prime with keyboard dock and other accessories or an infinity. From what I've read so far they are very similar except for the screen. I'm leaning towards the prime since it has the accessories.
I'm def going to root it asap, so I wanted to get some opinions. Do any of you have the keyboard?? Is it worth it vs the infinity??
Thanks!
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Keyboard is worth it as an option - we sometimes use it sometimes do not.
I have TF201 - very happy (sans GPS).
Wookie 1.4 ROM fixs all performance issues with PRIME (I have not yet installed it myself as the most recent ASUS ROM was also very very stable and fast).
What about these wifi issues I keep seeing. Some people make it sound like you can't even get a signal while others say it's fine. I don't plan on being outside of my house with the tablet so should i be concerned??
My dad bought a TF700 yesterday. I was setting it up and noted that the wifi was showing stronger signal than my 201. However, since the very latest update a few days ago I have noted significant improvement in my wifi on the 201. I ran speedtest.net and pulled the same numbers as my laptop.
The TF700 sitting next to the 201 looked IDENTICAL screen-wise wich I didn't expect considering the higher display specs of the 700. However, the 700's camera image on-screen was seriously yellow in comparison to my 201. Doing some research i found that a yellow screen on the 700 has been reported by many sources including reviews. When we transferred the picture to a PC and it didnt look as bad.
Office depot has the TF700 for $449. They have the 201 DOCK for $99 (in store only). I plugged my 201 dock in to the 700 and it worked perfectly so I suggested to my dad he get that one rather than the 700 dock and save the $50. There are many reports on here that the 201 dock is identical internally to the 700's dock including part numbers etc...
My dad was given a coupon for 20% off accessories when he bought the tablet so the dock will be $80 when he uses it.
All in all I would probably buy the 700 for the higher specs. Performance wise I did not find the 700 a stellar or really noteable improvement. The places I noticed things were more in the software side with extra options in certain places on the 700.
Thanks for that write up. I appreciate it. I spoke to the person that I'm buying it from and he said that wifi has always been strong for him. I did see that there was a new update. I'm not going to be streaming movies etc. mainly just surfing the web and downloading apps. I won't use the camera feature at all so that's not a big factor.
The screen was the big factor for me. I'm coming from an iPad 2 and both the prime and infinity have better screens so I think it's going to be an upgrade for me either way. I've read that many apps aren't optimized for the infinity's screen so not sure if that matters.
I'm kinda leaning towards the prime with the keyboard right now. I'm going to buy it through ebay so if the wifi totally sucks I can file a claim and return it.
I have to be honest though, neither looks as good as the newest displays on iPad. When not side by side you probably wouldnt realize but the clarity and sharpness of the iPad stands out.
having said that I stream netflix on my 201 regularly with no problems.
I agree thatte iPad 3 and 4 are sick and not comparable to the Prime. But since I'm coming from an iPad2 it'll be a slight improvement. Plus I thought that was a great screen anyways.
Good to hear the you can stream netflix over wifi without issues. That's the only thing concerning me at this time.
The prime is basically discontinued which means support and development for it will falter much sooner than the tf700. The screen if you compare text is infinitely better too and the WiFi suckz
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The prime is basically discontinued which means support and development for it will falter much sooner than the tf700. The screen if you compare text is infinitely better too and the WiFi suckz
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I agree 100% with this post... I have a Prime since day one FINALLY there are some solid JB roms available, running energy with mine. As for the discontinued statement it is already happening to the docks. I tried purchasing off amazon the new 500/700 dock and they cancelled my order saying they had no clue when it would be available again. So I had to order the last one from Newegg and they discontinued it after my order.
So basically go with the Infinity or pick up the Nexus 10 if you dont mind having no memory upgrades.
I currently have both. JB Stock vs stock Prime is better. 700 is very laggy and frame rate suck. Nenamark2 is below 39 fps while the Prime gets about 57fps. Even if you enable Force GPU and Disable Hardware Overlay it doesnt make much difference. I had to down grade the 700 to ICS which makes it smoother (nenamark2 score of 41) but what I noticed with ICS is during download of games or app data the 700 becomes unusable just like how Prime was on ICS. JB on Prime took care of this.
Also you will find a lot of games not compatible specifically Gameloft and EA games. You will need to side load most of them but you will need to have a source like a backup from another device. If you dont really play gameloft or EA games then it doesnt matter. Glu games are all available in the market.
The only slight advantage of the 700 is the screen. Its better in particular with text. Micro sd card no longer sticks out if you even use one. From the forums the tf700 needs to be unlocked and loaded with Cleanrom and clemsey kernel to make it on par with the Prime but if score means anything, Nenamark2 on clemsey kernel is 41fps on JB. As far as wifi both seems to be on par. But Prime lacks gps if thats important to you.
EDIT: I just tested wifi again and 700 is slightly better actually by 5-8dbm. Unless you're quite far from your router then that might not matter much. Also noticed the Prime tends to jump around more.
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tf700 Gameloft games (everything on here is it)
tf700 EA Games (Only the first few rows)
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I have a TF201 (since Dec 27th of last year). It is a low SN unit and I've never had any WiFi problems (only the GPS but that's a non-issue for me). It has worked great since new and has only gotten better with each update.
I have a friend that bought TF700's (based on what they saw with my Prime). When we are visiting we usually play the same games etc. sitting next to each other. He always comments that he thinks my Prime out performs his Infinity. There are some apps that work on my Prime and sort of works on his Infinity like multi-live wallpaper. I can assign different pictures to each of my screens without any problems but on his Infinity it doesn't work for some reason. We are both running JB. When we run Beach Buggy Blitz side by side his gets jittery when there is a lot of stuff going on but mine is smooth as silk. Not sure if this is the resolution optimization thing mentioned above.
I say go with the Prime if it's the same price as the Infinity especially if it come with the dock/accessories and the Infinity is just the tablet.
Both of them sucks, buy winn8 tab.
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Both of them sucks, buy winn8 tab.
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It's Win8, and why are you bothering to troll this forum? You provide no value.
You are nobody to criticize. I just answered OPs question. Problems?
There are probably Win8 forums out there. Did the OP ask about Win8? NOPE. Since he didn't your crappy answer is not needed.
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There are probably Win8 forums out there. Did the OP ask about Win8? NOPE.
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SO WHAT?
I suggest him not to buy asus android devices at all (at least tf201 or inf) because its total crap.
If you're such a fan of Windows 8 join an appropriate forum where positive comments would be welcome. So far, all your posts to this forum have been negative and counterproductive.
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SO WHAT?
I suggest him not to buy asus android devices at all (at least tf201 or inf) because its total crap.
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Mine is not total crap. It's been great since I've had it. Just because you may have had a bad expericance with Asus doesn't mean they are all crap. You add ZERO to this discussion and in no way are you helping the OP.
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Can we please stay on topic?
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Mine is not total crap. It's been great since I've had it. Just because you may have had a bad expericance with Asus doesn't mean they are all crap. You add ZERO to this discussion and in no way are you helping the OP.
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OT: Mine was total crap when i got it (random reboots, constant browser ANRs, total slowness...), but the community here helped - i installed custom rom and 99% of problems are gone and tablet is now fast, stable and great
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OT: Mine was total crap when i got it (random reboots, constant browser ANRs, total slowness...), but the community here helped - i installed custom rom and 99% of problems are gone and tablet is now fast, stable and great
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That’s cool. I'm waiting for my warranty to run out at the end of the month then it's root and unlock for me. I'm kind of scared to do it because mine has worked so well from day one though. I should be getting the dock for Christmas and I can't wait to play with that. The DEV community is great and that is why I like the Android platform so much because of cases like yours.
So, I ran antutu yesterday after I unlocked/rooted my phone, and I got a score of 19,168.
According to the "Bar chart", it trumps any other phone out right now... see attachment.
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My thoughts are that this is one sexy phone
Definitely not. No matter what the benchmarks say, logic still exists. The Nexus 4, padfone 2, and optimus G(once it gets jellybean) will all perform better due to the fact that these phones push a lot less pixels and have the exact same internals. Most videos already show differences in performance.
They updated it with more tests, everyone's should be higher now. I got 21k yesterday... can't seem to replicate it though, keep getting a little over 19k. As for the fastest phone, probably, haven't seen anything to prove otherwise...
Edit: Here's a screenshot.
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Definitely not. No matter what the benchmarks say, logic still exists. The Nexus 4, padfone 2, and optimus G(once it gets jellybean) will all perform better due to the fact that these phones push a lot less pixels and have the exact same internals. Most videos already show differences in performance.
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Yeah that's what I thought, the DNA has almost twice the render area that 720p devices have...
20997 on the first shot. gotta love it
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Definitely not. No matter what the benchmarks say, logic still exists. The Nexus 4, padfone 2, and optimus G(once it gets jellybean) will all perform better due to the fact that these phones push a lot less pixels and have the exact same internals. Most videos already show differences in performance.
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let me know when this happens...
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Definitely not. No matter what the benchmarks say, logic still exists. The Nexus 4, padfone 2, and optimus G(once it gets jellybean) will all perform better due to the fact that these phones push a lot less pixels and have the exact same internals. Most videos already show differences in performance.
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That is apples to oranges then. They don't test gaming hardware at different resolutions then claim the kit running 320x240 must be faster than the kit running 1080p. DNA would be the best phone on the market with a proper SD slot and HTCdev official support.
It's also hard not to mock the folks claiming it is fraudulent to return the phone for sketchy reasons. Verizon and it's competitors fleece you daily, then take their profits overseas. By all means, continue to stick up for them.
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//coming from motorola droid x2... dna is amazing
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Definitely not. No matter what the benchmarks say, logic still exists. The Nexus 4, padfone 2, and optimus G(once it gets jellybean) will all perform better due to the fact that these phones push a lot less pixels and have the exact same internals. Most videos already show differences in performance.
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Not necessarily. Antutu runs at 720P. I would not expect benches to differ much between them at all.
As for performance, the 320 isn't even sweating 720P. I certainly dn't see it chugging at 1080P. So in real performance, I'd say it won't be much different.
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That is apples to oranges then. They don't test gaming hardware at different resolutions then claim the kit running 320x240 must be faster than the kit running 1080p. DNA would be the best phone on the market with a proper SD slot and HTCdev official support.
It's also hard not to mock the folks claiming it is fraudulent to return the phone for sketchy reasons. Verizon and it's competitors fleece you daily, then take their profits overseas. By all means, continue to stick up for them.
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//coming from motorola droid x2... dna is amazing
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If you bend over and spread them for Verizon, its your fault. Don't blame Verizon for obliging you and burying it in deep.
You turning around and playing pitcher, making Verizon the catcher doesn't make it less gay, no mater what you tell yourself.
Yeah I got this one here. Crazy man
Linpack haven't seen many this high
Not an iPhone.....
On a vid comparing the optimums g vs DNA LG got 5670 on quadrant and DNA got 7890 I think. How is that they both have same internals. I assume it's because LG is not running JB and because HTC knows how to build phones.
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On a vid comparing the optimums g vs DNA LG got 5670 on quadrant and DNA got 7890 I think. How is that they both have same internals. I assume it's because LG is not running JB and because HTC knows how to build phones.
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There is no way to know where the discrepancies show, unless you break it down by category.
Most benchmarks Ive found on the web for the Nexus 4/Optimus G have been alot lower than my Optimus G AT&T that I recently acquired. I suspect its somewhat due to thermal throttling issues and people running too many benchmarks back to back. Although the Nexus 4 does appear to benchmark lower overall (but perform just as well); the Optimus G is right up there with the DNA.
Antutu: 21666
Quadrant: 7604
CF Bench: 18323
Geekbench 2: 2162
i dont agree with that m, major jump in performance im ive made a point to pay attention to that between all builds on my evo lte and i9300 and the outcome is minor in them maybe they did something different in these devices but i really dont see them taking it from the dna at this point
Here is the Nexus 4 owning it even while using chrome. Imagine how badly the thrashing would be if they used Dolphin or Boat for both like they should have. I have no idea why websites continue to run browser benchmarks on Chrome for flagship Android devices.
http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/11/27/droid-dna-vs-nexus4
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Here is the Nexus 4 owning it even while using chrome. Imagine how badly the thrashing would be if they used Dolphin or Boat for both like they should have. I have no idea why websites continue to run browser benchmarks on Chrome for flagship Android devices.
http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/11/27/droid-dna-vs-nexus4
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Stop spreading fud. There was no owning in that video.
Let me guess. You skimmed the video and forwarded to about the 10:38 mark and thought, omg, pwnage!
Go back about 12 seconds to 10:26 to the beginning of the test and see that the DNA had loaded the site but was in the mobile version. He switched it to the full version, which caused it to reload while the N4 was sitting there loaded.
Or you referring to the test at 12:09, where the N4 initially loaded first, but the DNA finished the entire loading process first?
There was no owning in that video at all. It was all very, very close, with some giving one way, and some giving another. Watch the full video please.
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Stop spreading fud. There was no owning in that video.
Let me guess. You skimmed the video and forwarded to about the 10:38 mark and thought, omg, pwnage!
Go back about 12 seconds to 10:26 to the beginning of the test and see that the DNA had loaded the site but was in the mobile version. He switched it to the full version, which caused it to reload while the N4 was sitting there loaded.
Or you referring to the test at 12:09, where the N4 initially loaded first, but the DNA finished the entire loading process first?
There was no owning in that video at all. It was all very, very close, with some giving one way, and some giving another. Watch the full video please.
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Are we watching the same video? I watched it and the Nexus 4 won almost every test and with the worst browser ever to boot. If that is not own age, I don't know what is.
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Are we watching the same video? I watched it and the Nexus 4 won almost every test and with the worst browser ever to boot. If that is not own age, I don't know what is.
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Apparently not. Check what you linked. I had someone else watch it as well to make sure I wasn't imagining it.
I think you need to review the video again.
Some tests were faster on N4, some on DNA. A blink of an eye's difference in either direction doesn't constitute pwnage either.
First test: DNA was faster, but went to mobile site. He reloaded as full site but did not test again. Winner = ???
Second test: tap and pinch to zoom. Review comments: "About equal" for tap to zoom. Pinch to zoom was smoother and better on DNA.
Third test: checkerboard pattern when scrolling. Both very smooth, per video and reviewer.
Fourth test, another website. N4 starts out in the lead, and the DNA finishes first. Reviewer confirmed it.
Fifth test: Video on a page: Nexus 4 was a blink of an eye faster. Hardly pwnage.
Sixth test: The verge. DNA went to mobile site. He went to full site, but did not retest. Winner???
Seventh test: Scrolling. Both were smooth.
Eighth test: Pinch to zoom. N4 slightly faster, but barely. Not pwnage.
Reviewer comments at 13:58 regarding web browsing: "Its really a draw."
Lack of pwnage confirmed by me watching a 3rd time, and even quoting the reviewer.
In the areas the N4 was faster, it was a blink of an eye. Same for the ones that the DNA was faster in.
Faster in some, slower in others. Your idea of ownage is askew.
The disparity of the reviewer reloading pages into their full version while the N4 had it loaded already does not count as ownage.
Yeah, they added an extra 3D test recently that bumps the score up quite a bit. As an apples to apples comparison, I ran a test on the older Antutu app and got around 14,500 which was still very impressive, considering the most I ever got out of any of my other rooted (overclocked) HTC phones (Evo3d & Rezound) was about 7,000.
Very impressive phone, but I'm sure that's also why my battery life is suffering.
Sent from a Droid DNA using the xda app.