I own a samsung galaxy tab 10.1 and also own a ipad 2.
I just bought a Transformer Prime tablet yesterday
...and its so buggy..I can't believe its being touted as the best andriod tab...(my samsung galaxy was better)
I'm an andriod fan...so I really want an andriod tablet that is as snappy and smooth as ipad 2.
in comes Transformer Prime. Everywhere I read how fast it is and how great the screen is and how it's an "ipad kiler".
Is it just me...or does this tablet fall really really short ?
(note: my wifi and gps both work fine...speed tested was 25 mb down ..same as my ipad/galaxy tab)
1. Although its fast to move between home screens, the tablet is noticeably laggy when using MOST apps: i.e: web browsing , youtube , mail.
- browser is slow to touch response, and is sooooo choppy/laggy...its just a total joke compared to ipad 2.
Browsing the web with this tablet is a total joke...I don't see how you guys do it?
My galaxy 10.1 was much smoother in comparison (which itself was a bit laggy)
- youtube works decently well...but the screen turns black when you rotate from landscape to portrait and vice versa...when doing this...there is screen flicker as it hides the rest of the screen ... lol so bad
- screen: super ips? are you kidding me? the colors look sooo faint compared to ipad2 and galaxy tab. The colors are the best on samsung galaxy tab... and worst on prime. And this is supposed to be a great screen? gimme a break...The font sucks...its so small n skinny...hard to read.
- Overall: its very slow! Main lag is web browsing...
- Market: I have no idea why they "updated" market to the new layout..it really sucks..and looks very cheap ..old one was much better imo
So, I'm obv ready to return this thing...but before I do..wanted to know if you all are experiencing these issues...or do i have a bad peice or what???
HI
My TF201 is very fast and smooth. It runs with Android 4.0.
Only the browser crashes sometimes (.15 Update).
My GPS has no signal, but who the hell needs GPS in a Tablet. I have a smartphone, much handier.
Overall, i would buy the TF201 again.
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I own a samsung galaxy tab 10.1 and also own a ipad 2.
I just bought a Transformer Prime tablet yesterday
...and its so buggy..I can't believe its being touted as the best andriod tab...(my samsung galaxy was better)
I'm an andriod fan...so I really want an andriod tablet that is as snappy and smooth as ipad 2.
in comes Transformer Prime. Everywhere I read how fast it is and how great the screen is and how it's an "ipad kiler".
Is it just me...or does this tablet fall really really short ?
(note: my wifi and gps both work fine...speed tested was 25 mb down ..same as my ipad/galaxy tab)
1. Although its fast to move between home screens, the tablet is noticeably laggy when using MOST apps: i.e: web browsing , youtube , mail.
- browser is slow to touch response, and is sooooo choppy/laggy...its just a total joke compared to ipad 2.
Browsing the web with this tablet is a total joke...I don't see how you guys do it?
My galaxy 10.1 was much smoother in comparison (which itself was a bit laggy)
- youtube works decently well...but the screen turns black when you rotate from landscape to portrait and vice versa...when doing this...there is screen flicker as it hides the rest of the screen ... lol so bad
- screen: super ips? are you kidding me? the colors look sooo faint compared to ipad2 and galaxy tab. The colors are the best on samsung galaxy tab... and worst on prime. And this is supposed to be a great screen? gimme a break...The font sucks...its so small n skinny...hard to read.
- Overall: its very slow! Main lag is web browsing...
- Market: I have no idea why they "updated" market to the new layout..it really sucks..and looks very cheap ..old one was much better imo
So, I'm obv ready to return this thing...but before I do..wanted to know if you all are experiencing these issues...or do i have a bad peice or what???
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Here is some information for you.
1. Proper IPS screens are CORRECT. Over-colored Samsung screens are not. Better looking does not equal proper looking. When you print any image, it will be closer to your prime than your Samsung.
2. Did you update to the latest version? I never had any browser issues and its much faster than my iPad2 - on top of that, this is Android - put any god damn browser you like on it. Chrome although in beta, works great.
3. Put your tablet in performance mode.
4. Youtube does flikker sometimes, but only when typing in search. I've never had a black screen while rotating or whenever.
Overall, hhis tablet is much smoother than any other tablet - I'm a developer and I have them all - so I'm not just talking.
Somehow it makes me think you are using the prime in power saver mode - because this does make the display extremely ugly and the device laggy.
It must be you. My prime screams. Everything is perfect. The screen is bright. The fonts are pretty. No lag time. Hell even my gps and wifi work.
It has its issues but its a great tablet. Way better then the iFlop/2 or any other Apple product I have ever used, but that's my personal opinion. My browser is buggy so I stopped using it but that's a issue with ICS in my opinion all the ICS devices I have used have the problem. Use Chrome Beta (havent had one crash) or FF if you cant stand crashing. Youtube does that on my Thrive and my Inspire so its the app from my standpoint.
+1 for making sure your not in power save mode.
Also to traxxus I see you agree, you didn't buy this to be a 10" version of a Garmin did you lol.
Also why are you blaming the Prime for the market changing, that was Google's change not ASUS, every device is getting that update.
You probably dont have the same prime as i do^^ But hey you have the GalaxyTab and the Ipad2 why dont you just stick with them if they're better. Sell your prime and chill
Honest question, do you work for apple and were being told to come here and make bad posts about the prime? It just seems so obvious
(dont take me that serious)
another day, another stupid thread
mrkool44 said:
I own a samsung galaxy tab 10.1 and also own a ipad 2.
I just bought a Transformer Prime tablet yesterday
...and its so buggy..I can't believe its being touted as the best andriod tab...(my samsung galaxy was better)
I'm an andriod fan...so I really want an andriod tablet that is as snappy and smooth as ipad 2.
in comes Transformer Prime. Everywhere I read how fast it is and how great the screen is and how it's an "ipad kiler".
Is it just me...or does this tablet fall really really short ?
(note: my wifi and gps both work fine...speed tested was 25 mb down ..same as my ipad/galaxy tab)
1. Although its fast to move between home screens, the tablet is noticeably laggy when using MOST apps: i.e: web browsing , youtube , mail.
- browser is slow to touch response, and is sooooo choppy/laggy...its just a total joke compared to ipad 2.
Browsing the web with this tablet is a total joke...I don't see how you guys do it?
My galaxy 10.1 was much smoother in comparison (which itself was a bit laggy)
- youtube works decently well...but the screen turns black when you rotate from landscape to portrait and vice versa...when doing this...there is screen flicker as it hides the rest of the screen ... lol so bad
- screen: super ips? are you kidding me? the colors look sooo faint compared to ipad2 and galaxy tab. The colors are the best on samsung galaxy tab... and worst on prime. And this is supposed to be a great screen? gimme a break...The font sucks...its so small n skinny...hard to read.
- Overall: its very slow! Main lag is web browsing...
- Market: I have no idea why they "updated" market to the new layout..it really sucks..and looks very cheap ..old one was much better imo
So, I'm obv ready to return this thing...but before I do..wanted to know if you all are experiencing these issues...or do i have a bad peice or what???
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go back to your ipad and apple forums, why bother coming here to troll?
Its just your device
do people do this same kind of crap on like car forums? like go to a forum for a car they don't like and just bash it ? i really cant stand people and i think i find this more the case the older i get.
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do people do this same kind of crap on like car forums? like go to a forum for a car they don't like and just bash it ? i really cant stand people and i think i find this more the case the older i get.
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No but car manufacturers dont sue each other either just because their rear mirrors or steering wheels look the same.
The mobile phone/tablet industry often reminds me of babies in a sandbox argueing about who the molds belong to... And so do the users sometimes
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do people do this same kind of crap on like car forums? like go to a forum for a car they don't like and just bash it ? i really cant stand people and i think i find this more the case the older i get.
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unfortunately Yes. lol. funny how these posts mostly come from someone new who popped up suddenly..lol. this thread won't last long.
lol all these posts just clutter this forum with nonsense.
demandarin said:
unfortunately Yes. lol. funny how these posts mostly come from someone new who popped up suddenly..lol. this thread won't last long.
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Yeah I find this true as well. I for a brief time was looking at a ford mustang ( until I went to a showroom and tried to test drive and and a salesperson told me they don't allow joy rides. Little did that idiot know I make a six figure income and could afford it. I was 22 at the time but you never judge a book by its cover come on!) and yes, while on mustang forums all the camaro people came to the forum and spread their Chevy gospel lol.
So its perfectly normal.
To the op, yes it has some software problems but it is A KILLER tablet. Make sure you are up to date.
The prime is MUCH faster than my droid razr and its got a pimped out version of aokp. Much love for droid theory and crew!
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My prime screams. Everything is perfect. The screen is bright. The fonts are pretty. No lag time. Hell even my gps and wifi work.
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that was funny as hell ^^^^^^t
To the OP,
If its that bad of an experience for you, just return it. You will be more happy in the long run. For myself, I love my prime.
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Did you do a factory reset after updating to ICS? It's a known issue that you really need to do a full reset after upgrading. My prime was a nightmare at first, I mean every single program would crash repeatedly, stock browser was one of the worst offenders. I'd gotten the prime and upgraded to ICS immediately before doing anything on the tablet at all. Then I found someone mentioning doing the full reset after upgrading and I tried it and it was a night and day difference. I mean literally I went from a program crash every 5 minutes to once a day if that.
Give that a try before giving up. And if that doesn't fix it, it's probably a bad unit. The prime definitely has some problems and to be honest ICS isn't really a fully mature OS yet imo, but what you're experiencing is not the norm for a properly functioning prime on the latest ICS build.
And for all the people saying troll go home, maybe he asked in a somewhat antagonizing way but he has a legitimate gripe. What do you think is better for primes, androids in general and this guy specifically? Telling him to go away or maybe helping him solve what's obviously a problem with his specific prime and bringing another happy prime owner into the fold?
As a new prime owner, I'm kinda disappointed. Nevermind about the gps.
My main beef is it doesn't feel fast. My stock uk 2.3.4 Galaxy S ii feels a lot faster. I'm thinking large websites heavy graphics, the Prime's is struggling with i/o.
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I kinda think it's the person using it
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Guys,
Thanks to this forum I found out about the GPS issue and was able to cancel my order with OD on time. Once again, XDA saved me some troubles.
It seems this problem is very (!) similar to the one I had with my Tmobile Samsung phone. Nothing was able to fix that GPS.
Anyways, I have a problem.
I MUST buy a tablet this week to give to someone as a gift. GPS is important.
Considering the Prime is out of question, which one would you recommend? I'm researching and doing my homework, but it is also good to hear from you guys.
Thanks in advance.
nricci said:
Guys,
Thanks to this forum I found out about the GPS issue and was able to cancel my order with OD on time. Once again, XDA saved me some troubles.
It seems this problem is very (!) similar to the one I had with my Tmobile Samsung phone. Nothing was able to fix that GPS.
Anyways, I have a problem.
I MUST buy a tablet this week to give to someone as a gift. GPS is important.
Considering the Prime is out of question, which one would you recommend? I'm researching and doing my homework, but it is also good to hear from you guys.
Thanks in advance.
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If you need something right away. Galaxy Tab 10.1 is a good goto android tablet.
If you don't need it ASAP, wait until Q2 2012. They'll be rolling out a lot of new gadgets.
Thanks. Yes, I need it ASAP. Birthday gift. I don't have an option.
nricci said:
Thanks. Yes, I need it ASAP. Birthday gift. I don't have an option.
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Stick with the prime you wont regret it
tylermaciaszek said:
Stick with the prime you wont regret it
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This. 10chars
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tylermaciaszek said:
Stick with the prime you wont regret it
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+100000000000
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Realistic advice: Unless you want your friend to be ASUS's corporate guinea pig while they fix all of the quirks in the device, get the GTab or something comparable. Giving someone a gift in which they have to immediately be aware of it's defects and the possibility of RMA'ing it is a really crappy gift.
Thanks guys, but the GPS MUST be totally functional. Device WILL be used for navigation with Sygic.
My vote would also be for the galaxy tab 10.1 or 8.9. They work and look great. As a present unless the person likes messing with these the tab seems to be working well. Too many issues right now with the prime jmo. Btw I am typing this on a tab 10.1 but I have a prime on order. Not sure if I am going to cancel it or not. The geek in me still wants it so I probably won't.
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Stick with the prime you wont regret it
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I am also vacillating because of the concerns raised in this forum, however, due to the inconsistencies with reports of bad performance and stability, I am wondering if there was an issue with just initial batches and that newer ones (just built) are less likely to exhibit any of the serious issues raised with GPS and wifi?
I am going to wait for my (expansys-usa) order to be fulfilled. I don't think that a more appealing tablet will come out before June.
Is there some correlation with the defective (or working) units and a specific build date, build location and/or batch number?
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Galaxy Tab is still the best choice for an established Android tablet.
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well if you want a sub par device on specs, display, perfaormance and looks, get something else. If you want something that will truly be next level tableting, get the Prime. buff said!
THE POWER IS YOURS! choose wisely and don't settle for something less based on a few gripes a minority of users been having. if you absolutely need GPS...then get the prime and external Bluetooth GPS receiver bring in the new year with the most powerful Android tablet in the world. and will hold that title for the next 4-6 months easily. maybe longer.
it'll be silly to pay$499 for another tab that is outdated specwise and consumer wise. when you can pay the same price and have cutting edge technology. galaxy tab sux anyways..lmao touchwiz over honeycomb blows and lags even more than other build or versions of honeycomb. lmfao
Another vote for the Galaxy Tab 10 or 8
Also the Sony Tablet looks very nice
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ryan562 said:
Another vote for the Galaxy Tab 10 or 8
Also the Sony Tablet looks very nice
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Really...???
Sony Tablet looks thick and clunky to me. Besides Sony product integration with ir remote control, i don't think the Sony looks interesting at all. plus, it's expensive.
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Really...???
Sony Tablet looks thick and clunky to me. Besides Sony product integration with ir remote control, i don't think the Sony looks interesting at all. plus, it's expensive.
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its actually pretty nice. not as thick as it looks. I've played around with it in person. its a decent tegra2 tab. but it wasn't as much of a success as Sony would've hoped for. alot of issues with lag surrounding it. if anything I were to get other than Prime, it would be the Galaxy tab 7.7. it will have the best display and most powerful out of the Tab lineup. that galaxy note is really nice also. eliminate a device and that can be used as a tablet also. that 5.3in screen is huge and beautiful for a phone/tablet.
Guys, listen to what the dude sez. He needs good GPS. This is for his friend, not for you.
The only Android tabs with good wireless performance are the Xoom and the Samsung GT 10/8.9. I like the Xoom since it has more I/O (SD slot, micro-USB), but it's heavy and its look is at best industrial. So the only proven choice is the SGT.
If it's for a woman, suggest the 8.9 for lighter weight and easier handling, w/o sacrificing resolution. In fact, if it's for on-the-go use, you may also consider the SGT 7 Plus for yet more portability. The 8.9 would be the sweet spot, though.
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Guys, listen to what the dude sez. He needs good GPS. This is for his friend, not for you.
The only Android tabs with good wireless performance are the Xoom and the Samsung GT 10/8.9. I like the Xoom since it has more I/O (SD slot, micro-USB), but it's heavy and its look is at best industrial. So the only proven choice is the SGT.
If it's for a woman, suggest the 8.9 for lighter weight and easier handling, w/o sacrificing resolution. In fact, if it's for on-the-go use, you may also consider the SGT 7 Plus for yet more portability. The 8.9 would be the sweet spot, though.
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the 7.7 version is the best one. more powerful and better display. coming out anyday now really. if it has to get it now, go with the 8.9 like emote said. or maybe even the Note or Galaxy player
demandarin said:
choose wisely and don't settle for something less based on a few gripes a minority of users been having. if you absolutely need GPS...then get the prime and external Bluetooth GPS receiver bring in the new year with the most powerful Android tablet in the world. and will hold that title for the next 4-6 months easily. maybe longer.
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Wow, I didnt know 50-60% failure rate on GPS and other things were "a few grips a minority of users been having"...really? Then why are the forums exploding with mostly negative reviews? the minority and very very lucky are the ones that have all their dreams in a good tablet.
I am quickly becoming one that am tired of factory reseting my tablet 2-3 or more times a day because the screen is unresponsive or it just decides to do random screen selections. I have high hopes that maybe..just maybe it will be fixed in ICS...but i'm a realist.
oh, and Acer and HTC will be to market soon..so the "next 4-6 months easily..maybe longer" statement is based on factless and honestly niave speculation.
By the tablet and play the lottery. 50% chance you'll get a superb device...50% chance you'll get a 499 POS. You have to decide for yourself if your willing to deal.
As of now, i'm cancelling my other Newegg preorder and will probably return this one..but since i've got 30 days to return to gamestop..and the the manager has seen first hand my problem..(oh..and the district manager returned his on friday becuase of the screen issues and lockups...) i'm going to play with it for a bit longer and see what happens mid january if at least on thing can go right with this device...release of ICS.
Hey it's the new year. Let's give peeps the benefit of the doubt and not be so quick on the trigger. Peace and good will and all that. Think positive thoughts.
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Wow, I didnt know 50-60% failure rate on GPS and other things were "a few grips a minority of users been having"...really? Then why are the forums exploding with mostly negative reviews? the minority and very very lucky are the ones that have all their dreams in a good tablet.
I am quickly becoming one that am tired of factory reseting my tablet 2-3 or more times a day because the screen is unresponsive or it just decides to do random screen selections. I have high hopes that maybe..just maybe it will be fixed in ICS...but i'm a realist.
oh, and Acer and HTC will be to market soon..so the "next 4-6 months easily..maybe longer" statement is based on factless and honestly niave speculation.
By the tablet and play the lottery. 50% chance you'll get a superb device...50% chance you'll get a 499 POS. You have to decide for yourself if your willing to deal.
As of now, i'm cancelling my other Newegg preorder and will probably return this one..but since i've got 30 days to return to gamestop..and the the manager has seen first hand my problem..(oh..and the district manager returned his on friday becuase of the screen issues and lockups...) i'm going to play with it for a bit longer and see what happens mid january if at least on thing can go right with this device...release of ICS.
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just take a look at the polls. on TransformwrForums there's a poll asking if people have issues. more than 70% said No, perfectly happy with it. check out all the various polls here. all of them show Prime in good light. people with issues are the minority, point blank. plus actually xda is the only blowing up with people complaining. TransformerForum is moving along very smoothly without all the threads of complainers. most of these people with issues are same ones posting a million different threads on same issue.
yes, the issues are real. but alot of them are overexaggerated. look at all the various polls in this section people made to try to make prime look bad. all it did was back fire and show the majority doesn't have issue. like the wifi poll shows majority don't have issues. the other poll on various issues. majority voted no problems and completely satisfied with device. sorry buddy, my device works perfectly fine. no issues. and do do most of other Prime owners also. its always the negative ones who will whine/be vocal the most in making threads. the positive people came out n voted in polls to show what most speak of is morsel isolated. most don't care about GPS, whether working or not. its not a dealbreaker for me. and since my display, performance, and wifi is great, I'm good
his quote on get the tablet and play the lottery is funny though. n actually Acer and other tab you mentioned will not be out soon cuz no other tablet has an official release date from manufacturer. keep dreaming buddy
Hi,
I was very happy to get the asus transformer prime. Switching menus, in app performance were very good...until i tried some very heavy browsing (espn.go.com/boxing for example or theverge.com). Let me tell you, the browsing on this thing is horrible. I really don't understand. Everything else is so fast, it is actually faster than my ipad 2 and samsung galaxy tab 10.1 for in app performance but when it comes to browsing, it is so sluggish. My samsung tab 10.1 on honeycomb kills it. I really wonder, will this be fixed in the next update or its just like that. I tried disabling flash, performance increases by 5x...is flash 11 not optimised for ICS? Also, chrome doesnt lag as much as the stock browser. How will this be fixed
Weel, Hw accel might be causing issues and if the site is mem leaking, that could also slow you down. And flash is optimized for ICS but I don't think its well done. Oh, and make sure you got performance mode enabled.
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I use mines in balanced mode and leave that hardware acceleration option in developers settings off. My browsers are super fast. Even stock. Really no matter which one I use. My favs. Are ICS+ browser and Boat browser. At the beginning stock browser use to be slow n i hated n hardly used it. Now after ICS, its fast as a mofo. Couldn't believe it. I use it alot now or ICS+ browser.
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I use mines in balanced mode and leave that hardware acceleration option in developers settings off. My browsers are super fast. Even stock. Really no matter which one I use. My favs. Are ICS+ browser and Boat browser. At the beginning stock browser use to be slow n i hated n hardly used it. Now after ICS, its fast as a mofo. Couldn't believe it. I use it alot now or ICS+ browser.
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My experience with the prime have been exactly the same
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i have tried all the things you guys said, it helps a little bit but it's not as good as my samsung tab 10.1...I find it really strange, my prime is killing the tab 10.1 in everything except the browsing. Btw i also noticed that i am on the build of 17 january version.11 from canada. I tried to make a firmware update but it says that this is the latest version availab.e Do you know if the next update is supposed to help the performance issues?
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My experience with the prime have been exactly the same
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Ditto except I use Dolphin...
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i have tried all the things you guys said, it helps a little bit but it's not as good as my samsung tab 10.1...I find it really strange, my prime is killing the tab 10.1 in everything except the browsing. Btw i also noticed that i am on the build of 17 january version.11 from canada. I tried to make a firmware update but it says that this is the latest version availab.e Do you know if the next update is supposed to help the performance issues?
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any update on this?
I am having same issue as you - very laggy browsing and even some lag in youtube/mail
I use Boat browser in balanced mode and it performs quiet well. I have to say at this point in time none of the browsers work as well as Chrome or Firefox on my Linux box. I suspect this will change as apps mature and optimized for ICS.
try opening more tabs
Personally everything is working super smooth on my prime. Tried checking out the websites mentioned and they all are super smooth on my prime.
I recall reading somewhere that it helps to open more tabs in the browser. That way all four cores kick in instead of using just the fifth core for low cpu usage apps and tasks.
Just a thought.
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any update on this?
I am having same issue as you - very laggy browsing and even some lag in youtube/mail
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Are you still on honeycomb? I think the OP was since is the only reason i can think of why he has browser lag. Should be smooth on ICS. As far as youtube and email what kind of lag are you getting?
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Chrome Beta in balanced or performance and its really fast, power save its still good but not as good.
returned prime
after resetting it several times and making a post here (which a mod deleted lol b/c i told the truth about the problems i had with my prime...i guess honesty is not allowed here?)
I ended up returning the prime back to staples.
it was running ICS latest ver shipped. i used chrome beta. i used dolphin hd. i used stock.
all of them were jittery and laggy. pinch zoom was even lagging.
My samsung galaxy was better in terms of performance.
Also, I bought a transformer tf101 last year..the orig ver.. and guess what? i had the same problems.
it was laggy...youtube vids were stuttering..browsing was weak... and now..with the new prime a year later..it still blows.
it was junk...web browsing on it was a joke...very laggy and just not very smooth in terms of scrolling ..it was just hard to use.
the colors on the screen looked faded out compared to other android tabs.
overall..just not a tab that u can depend on when youre in a hurry and need to check the web without having any glitches...
i ended up buying ipad 3. its way way better than prime..sorry guys..
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My samsung galaxy was better in terms of performance.
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Pretty much the same which you wouldn't expect comparing two different generations of CPU/GPU.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/251947/new_ipad_vs_android_tablets_is_it_game_over.html
yeah yeah...lol. I could post charts to show otherwise favoring tegra3 but this a never ending thing. ill let you think your Samsung performing better..lmfao.
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after resetting it several times and making a post here (which a mod deleted lol b/c i told the truth about the problems i had with my prime...i guess honesty is not allowed here?)
I ended up returning the prime back to staples.
it was running ICS latest ver shipped. i used chrome beta. i used dolphin hd. i used stock.
all of them were jittery and laggy. pinch zoom was even lagging.
My samsung galaxy was better in terms of performance.
Also, I bought a transformer tf101 last year..the orig ver.. and guess what? i had the same problems.
it was laggy...youtube vids were stuttering..browsing was weak... and now..with the new prime a year later..it still blows.
it was junk...web browsing on it was a joke...very laggy and just not very smooth in terms of scrolling ..it was just hard to use.
the colors on the screen looked faded out compared to other android tabs.
overall..just not a tab that u can depend on when youre in a hurry and need to check the web without having any glitches...
i ended up buying ipad 3. its way way better than prime..sorry guys..
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cool story bro
Techreport did a review of the original Transformer with Ice Cream. They made several comments about the Prime with ICS having issues that wasn't in last years model with updated software.
I could look at charts showing how great the Tegra 3 is too but it won't make my studdering browsers go away.
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Techreport did a review of the original Transformer with Ice Cream. They made several comments about the Prime with ICS having issues that wasn't in last years model with updated software.
I could look at charts showing how great the Tegra 3 is too but it won't make my studdering browsers go away.
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last year model has its own ics issues that prime doesnt have. it was actually a huge problem. several tech articles on it. says just recently released a patch to hopefully fix it.
No device immune to sw issues.
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I use mines in balanced mode and leave that hardware acceleration option in developers settings off. My browsers are super fast. Even stock. Really no matter which one I use. My favs. Are ICS+ browser and Boat browser. At the beginning stock browser use to be slow n i hated n hardly used it. Now after ICS, its fast as a mofo. Couldn't believe it. I use it alot now or ICS+ browser.
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Same here. It's fast.
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yeah yeah...lol. I could post charts to show otherwise favoring tegra3 but this a never ending thing.
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Basically, unless apps are Teg optimized, the performance benefit isn't that dramatic. Games and local video playback will be greatly improved (over Teg2), everything else not so much. Nvidia never met their sales targets with Teg2 and, with it almost April, probably won't hit their already lowered Teg3 targets for 2012 either. They can show optimized benchmarks and a handful of optimized games playing exceptionally well all they want. If 5% of apps available are optimized it's all an illusion. App developers never rallied around Teg2 so there's no reason to believe they'll rally around Teg3 either. The S4 creamed Teg3 in all but optimized benchmarks which, in everyday use, is how most people will judge the performance of their devices.
And we already know that, in your mind, there never has been and never will be a tablet as fantastic as the Prime, a chip as stupendous as Teg3, or a chip maker as skilled as Nvidia. Let's go with that.
I just opened both webpages in eco mode and both loaded, scrolled and worked smooth.
I'm using stock browser and HW acceleration enabled.
I personally have and love my Prime, my dad has always been an iPad user. He bought the newest on launch day, and I spent a bit of time comparing them. The iPad is a great device, but not for everyone. Both are smooth, both work, both have great screens. But, the iPad is...extremely basic in its layout. No widgets, no customization past wallpapers. The Prime has tons of customizability, of course. Apps are another story. Sure, the iPad has great app support, aside from every app not specifically designed looking horribly streched. Realistically though, most apps do have a nice iPad version. The Prime does a great job upscaling apps without a tablet version - that said, the Play Store doesn't have quite as big a selection, even though nearly everything you can think of is present. On the subject of stores, if you don't plan on spending money consistently on apps, the Prime is the best choice. Take for example, iGun Zombie, a game on both the Play and App Stores. Both are exactly the same, though while the App Store sells it for $.99, it is free and ad-supported on the Play Store. This is something to keep in mind if you aren't willing to pay for every app.
As for build quality, both are great. The new iPad is just a bit thicker and heavier. Both screens are great. With the iPad, the "retina" display (which is actually just a term they use for the resolution, it's not special display technology, just Samsung packing in extra pixels) is very nice, but not such a big improvement from the Prime. Both compete well. The cameras are both very good, but obviously not as handy as a more compact shooter. Touch response is very good altogether. Sound quality is acceptable, both took the one-speaker approach - and it shows. Both feel alright in the hand, cases help though.
The most important thing in the end, is just the experience. If you enjoy customizability, the Prime is for you. If you like smooth, straight-forward and easy to use software, the new iPad is a great choice. Preference, preference, preference! Anyone who stumbles across this, stop researching and go to Best Buy. Play with both. Whatever feels nicer to you is the winner.
I'm not going to bother comparing accessories past this, because that has little to do with the devices' performance and experience as tabs. If you are a case-whore, the iPad always wins. For functionality, the Prime's keyboard is a wonder.
I just did a similar thread on this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558951
I have never owned an Ipad and was walking through walmart yesterday and saw they had the new ones, which surprised me. It was the last one only 16GB so I figured I would at least give it a try. If I don't like it I will take it back, so far the screen is nice but for what I do it doesn't look that much nicer than the Primes screen just my opinion. Its better but not by that much, I don't sit and zoom in and out on every little detail while browsing or whatever and the prime zoom is fine, I think so anyways. I think its kinda an overkill but it does look nice. I didn't see much difference while just on YouTube and general web browsing. Its simple to use it has quite a few nice apps for free, they take a long time to download. I just can't control it like I want to, once the Ipad is unlocked Cidea(SP?) or whatever they call it, can you do overclocking and all that? Custom Kernel? I know you cant change its basic layout but I don't know a lot about the IPAD yet. Whats the benefits of a jail broken IPad?
I think the games are on par I ran a test with a game that is not Tegra optimized for comparison, looked about the same to me. I don't know where IPAD got 5x better graphics maybe on a game they developed? Anyways all that's in the link I got up top.
I'm really glad someone made a IPAD comparison thread.
Thank you.
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I'm really glad someone made a IPAD comparison thread.
Thank you.
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IKR......lol
Sounds more like an android vs ios post. I made those conclusions when my original mytouch ran 1.5.
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A question: can one of you folks (or more than one) who have both compare text in the Nook and Kindle reader apps, side-by-side? How much difference does the iPad's screen make in text quality for ebook reading? And, at close-to-print font sizes (for me, that's toward the smaller side of the font size options on both apps).
Thanks!
As someone who owns both a Prime and the new iPad here are my thoughts.
The prime is great with the keyboard dock. I love using it to sit in IRC with or chat with friends. I like the layout and customizability of the home screens.
The iPad is great for web browsing. I find safari far smoother than my prime and general usability of the zoom and gestures to make it faster to navigate around on than the prime.
Both are great devices, each have their ups and downs, though personally I think Asus could have done a far better job. My iPad doesn't reboot every hour or so or lock up.
On a side note about everyone complaining about how the new iPad isn't faster than the iPad 2. I'm going to break it down for those who need it simple. The new iPad is an iPad 2 with an upgraded screen, GPU, and LTE. That is all. There may be more ram for running programs but that's it. Others have said it has a larger battery which is true, however that larger battery doesn't last any longer than the iPad 2's smaller battery did. Sadly, the new iPad is still faster than the prime.
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IKR......lol
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Overskeen! How do you like it? I bought it but I hardly use it and it crashes when I try to do full screen watching umm...beauty n the beast with an R
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I personally have and love my Prime, my dad has always been an iPad user. He bought the newest on launch day, and I spent a bit of time comparing them. The iPad is a great device, but not for everyone. Both are smooth, both work, both have great screens. But, the iPad is...extremely basic in its layout. No widgets, no customization past wallpapers. The Prime has tons of customizability, of course. Apps are another story. Sure, the iPad has great app support, aside from every app not specifically designed looking horribly streched. Realistically though, most apps do have a nice iPad version. The Prime does a great job upscaling apps without a tablet version - that said, the Play Store doesn't have quite as big a selection, even though nearly everything you can think of is present. On the subject of stores, if you don't plan on spending money consistently on apps, the Prime is the best choice. Take for example, iGun Zombie, a game on both the Play and App Stores. Both are exactly the same, though while the App Store sells it for $.99, it is free and ad-supported on the Play Store. This is something to keep in mind if you aren't willing to pay for every app.
As for build quality, both are great. The new iPad is just a bit thicker and heavier. Both screens are great. With the iPad, the "retina" display (which is actually just a term they use for the resolution, it's not special display technology, just Samsung packing in extra pixels) is very nice, but not such a big improvement from the Prime. Both compete well. The cameras are both very good, but obviously not as handy as a more compact shooter. Touch response is very good altogether. Sound quality is acceptable, both took the one-speaker approach - and it shows. Both feel alright in the hand, cases help though.
The most important thing in the end, is just the experience. If you enjoy customizability, the Prime is for you. If you like smooth, straight-forward and easy to use software, the new iPad is a great choice. Preference, preference, preference! Anyone who stumbles across this, stop researching and go to Best Buy. Play with both. Whatever feels nicer to you is the winner.
I'm not going to bother comparing accessories past this, because that has little to do with the devices' performance and experience as tabs. If you are a case-whore, the iPad always wins. For functionality, the Prime's keyboard is a wonder.
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All I want to do is slap Android on the iPad3 and I'll love it.
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Overskeen! How do you like it? I bought it but I hardly use it and it crashes when I try to do full screen watching umm...beauty n the beast with an R
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it works great. have you made sure to keep it updated? I can use fullscreen on it with no problems. plays flash video flawlessly also. I believe I had made it fullscreen in portrait mode to take that screenshot. but fullscreen doesn't crash on mines.
I was in Nebraska Funiture last night looking at the prime, and since there is an Apple store near I went and looked at the new ipad. I looked at the ipad 2, new ipad and the prime, and honestly I cant tell the difference between any of them screen wise. Unless my "retinas" are broke (and they could be) if there is a difference it's not drastic. I was told the new ipad had more pixels than my plasma, so I went in thinking it would look better than my plasma, it didn't. I didn't see anything about any of the devices screen that "stopped me in my tracks" They all looked good though. With that said, I just sold my transformer and soon as my funds clear ebay I'll be getting the prime.
I'd love my prime a lot more if it didn't lockup or reboot so much. My iPad doesn't have this problem. Neither does my Galaxy Note. Even though I love the prime, the problems it has, if you have them is a major downfall.
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I'd love my prime a lot more if it didn't lockup or reboot so much. My iPad doesn't have this problem. Neither does my Galaxy Note. Even though I love the prime, the problems it has, if you have them is a major downfall.
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What kind of lockups are you getting? I just got a Prime the other day it updated twice right away and was fine. I then rooted and unlocked it, then flash over clock kernel to 1.7. Been Gaming 9 mm, Shadow Gun THD, and more. Also Splashtop THD works great. I use xScope Browser for web browsing set as desktop and works as nice as my laptop.
Oh, my Gosh! This is so awesome! Thank you so much for this comparison! Tonight, for once, I can sleep soundly. I have been worried so much about the iPad and how it compares to my Prime. Yes!
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- I personally have and love my Prime, my dad has always been an iPad user.
- The iPad is a great device, but not for everyone.
- iPad is...extremely basic in its layout. No widgets, no customization past wallpapers.
- The Prime has tons of customizability, of course.
- Sure, the iPad has great app support, aside from every app not specifically designed looking horribly streched. Realistically though, most apps do have a nice iPad version. The Prime does a great job upscaling apps without a tablet version
- The Play Store doesn't have quite as big a selection, even though nearly everything you can think of is present.
- if you don't plan on spending money consistently on apps, the Prime is the best choice. Take for example, iGun Zombie, a game on both the Play and App Stores. Both are exactly the same, though while the App Store sells it for $.99, it is free and ad-supported on the Play Store. This is something to keep in mind if you aren't willing to pay for every app.
- The new iPad is just a bit thicker and heavier. Both screens are great. With the iPad, the "retina" display (which is actually just a term they use for the resolution, it's not special display technology, just Samsung packing in extra pixels) is very nice, but not such a big improvement from the Prime.
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Cant really have an impartial comparison when you start of by saying you have and love your prime. You didnt really say anything negative about the prime and the pros you had with the ipad you later say its only a minimal advantage to the prime.
Hope the mod closes this thread.
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There may be more ram for running programs but that's it.
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Actually, there's probably comparatively little of that extra RAM available for running programs. A large proportion of it will be taken up by the frame buffer which will be 4 times larger than on the ipad 2.
Also, when you start getting apps with resources optimised for the iPad 3, those resources will also be much larger, and consume more memory when used.
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Dave
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wynand32 said:
A question: can one of you folks (or more than one) who have both compare text in the Nook and Kindle reader apps, side-by-side? How much difference does the iPad's screen make in text quality for ebook reading? And, at close-to-print font sizes (for me, that's toward the smaller side of the font size options on both apps).
Thanks!
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The text quality of the iPad 3 is off the charts, whatever else you do or don't like about it. It's the best reading screen I've ever seen. There is zero pixelation, it's incredibly nice on the eyes. The Prime has a good screen but there is no comparison for text. I don't use the Nook app but I use Kindle on both, it's a retina upgraded app, the text quality is as near perfect as I've seen on an electronic device. Font size is adjustable and great, is there a specific function you want compared? I could throw Nook on them if there's something specific you need to know. Even the Google Book reader has gotten very nice, I'd say the iPad has much better reading apps (surprise) except I love the calibre catalog app on Android. You can recreate it with Stanza on ios but it's not as good.
We already have plenty of these threads - go post in there.
Hey all, I am looking to get a tablet and have two options for the same price. I can get the prime with keyboard dock and other accessories or an infinity. From what I've read so far they are very similar except for the screen. I'm leaning towards the prime since it has the accessories.
I'm def going to root it asap, so I wanted to get some opinions. Do any of you have the keyboard?? Is it worth it vs the infinity??
Thanks!
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Hey all, I am looking to get a tablet and have two options for the same price. I can get the prime with keyboard dock and other accessories or an infinity. From what I've read so far they are very similar except for the screen. I'm leaning towards the prime since it has the accessories.
I'm def going to root it asap, so I wanted to get some opinions. Do any of you have the keyboard?? Is it worth it vs the infinity??
Thanks!
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Keyboard is worth it as an option - we sometimes use it sometimes do not.
I have TF201 - very happy (sans GPS).
Wookie 1.4 ROM fixs all performance issues with PRIME (I have not yet installed it myself as the most recent ASUS ROM was also very very stable and fast).
What about these wifi issues I keep seeing. Some people make it sound like you can't even get a signal while others say it's fine. I don't plan on being outside of my house with the tablet so should i be concerned??
My dad bought a TF700 yesterday. I was setting it up and noted that the wifi was showing stronger signal than my 201. However, since the very latest update a few days ago I have noted significant improvement in my wifi on the 201. I ran speedtest.net and pulled the same numbers as my laptop.
The TF700 sitting next to the 201 looked IDENTICAL screen-wise wich I didn't expect considering the higher display specs of the 700. However, the 700's camera image on-screen was seriously yellow in comparison to my 201. Doing some research i found that a yellow screen on the 700 has been reported by many sources including reviews. When we transferred the picture to a PC and it didnt look as bad.
Office depot has the TF700 for $449. They have the 201 DOCK for $99 (in store only). I plugged my 201 dock in to the 700 and it worked perfectly so I suggested to my dad he get that one rather than the 700 dock and save the $50. There are many reports on here that the 201 dock is identical internally to the 700's dock including part numbers etc...
My dad was given a coupon for 20% off accessories when he bought the tablet so the dock will be $80 when he uses it.
All in all I would probably buy the 700 for the higher specs. Performance wise I did not find the 700 a stellar or really noteable improvement. The places I noticed things were more in the software side with extra options in certain places on the 700.
Thanks for that write up. I appreciate it. I spoke to the person that I'm buying it from and he said that wifi has always been strong for him. I did see that there was a new update. I'm not going to be streaming movies etc. mainly just surfing the web and downloading apps. I won't use the camera feature at all so that's not a big factor.
The screen was the big factor for me. I'm coming from an iPad 2 and both the prime and infinity have better screens so I think it's going to be an upgrade for me either way. I've read that many apps aren't optimized for the infinity's screen so not sure if that matters.
I'm kinda leaning towards the prime with the keyboard right now. I'm going to buy it through ebay so if the wifi totally sucks I can file a claim and return it.
I have to be honest though, neither looks as good as the newest displays on iPad. When not side by side you probably wouldnt realize but the clarity and sharpness of the iPad stands out.
having said that I stream netflix on my 201 regularly with no problems.
I agree thatte iPad 3 and 4 are sick and not comparable to the Prime. But since I'm coming from an iPad2 it'll be a slight improvement. Plus I thought that was a great screen anyways.
Good to hear the you can stream netflix over wifi without issues. That's the only thing concerning me at this time.
The prime is basically discontinued which means support and development for it will falter much sooner than the tf700. The screen if you compare text is infinitely better too and the WiFi suckz
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The prime is basically discontinued which means support and development for it will falter much sooner than the tf700. The screen if you compare text is infinitely better too and the WiFi suckz
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I agree 100% with this post... I have a Prime since day one FINALLY there are some solid JB roms available, running energy with mine. As for the discontinued statement it is already happening to the docks. I tried purchasing off amazon the new 500/700 dock and they cancelled my order saying they had no clue when it would be available again. So I had to order the last one from Newegg and they discontinued it after my order.
So basically go with the Infinity or pick up the Nexus 10 if you dont mind having no memory upgrades.
I currently have both. JB Stock vs stock Prime is better. 700 is very laggy and frame rate suck. Nenamark2 is below 39 fps while the Prime gets about 57fps. Even if you enable Force GPU and Disable Hardware Overlay it doesnt make much difference. I had to down grade the 700 to ICS which makes it smoother (nenamark2 score of 41) but what I noticed with ICS is during download of games or app data the 700 becomes unusable just like how Prime was on ICS. JB on Prime took care of this.
Also you will find a lot of games not compatible specifically Gameloft and EA games. You will need to side load most of them but you will need to have a source like a backup from another device. If you dont really play gameloft or EA games then it doesnt matter. Glu games are all available in the market.
The only slight advantage of the 700 is the screen. Its better in particular with text. Micro sd card no longer sticks out if you even use one. From the forums the tf700 needs to be unlocked and loaded with Cleanrom and clemsey kernel to make it on par with the Prime but if score means anything, Nenamark2 on clemsey kernel is 41fps on JB. As far as wifi both seems to be on par. But Prime lacks gps if thats important to you.
EDIT: I just tested wifi again and 700 is slightly better actually by 5-8dbm. Unless you're quite far from your router then that might not matter much. Also noticed the Prime tends to jump around more.
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tf700 EA Games (Only the first few rows)
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I have a TF201 (since Dec 27th of last year). It is a low SN unit and I've never had any WiFi problems (only the GPS but that's a non-issue for me). It has worked great since new and has only gotten better with each update.
I have a friend that bought TF700's (based on what they saw with my Prime). When we are visiting we usually play the same games etc. sitting next to each other. He always comments that he thinks my Prime out performs his Infinity. There are some apps that work on my Prime and sort of works on his Infinity like multi-live wallpaper. I can assign different pictures to each of my screens without any problems but on his Infinity it doesn't work for some reason. We are both running JB. When we run Beach Buggy Blitz side by side his gets jittery when there is a lot of stuff going on but mine is smooth as silk. Not sure if this is the resolution optimization thing mentioned above.
I say go with the Prime if it's the same price as the Infinity especially if it come with the dock/accessories and the Infinity is just the tablet.
Both of them sucks, buy winn8 tab.
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Both of them sucks, buy winn8 tab.
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It's Win8, and why are you bothering to troll this forum? You provide no value.
You are nobody to criticize. I just answered OPs question. Problems?
There are probably Win8 forums out there. Did the OP ask about Win8? NOPE. Since he didn't your crappy answer is not needed.
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There are probably Win8 forums out there. Did the OP ask about Win8? NOPE.
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SO WHAT?
I suggest him not to buy asus android devices at all (at least tf201 or inf) because its total crap.
If you're such a fan of Windows 8 join an appropriate forum where positive comments would be welcome. So far, all your posts to this forum have been negative and counterproductive.
hikka said:
SO WHAT?
I suggest him not to buy asus android devices at all (at least tf201 or inf) because its total crap.
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Mine is not total crap. It's been great since I've had it. Just because you may have had a bad expericance with Asus doesn't mean they are all crap. You add ZERO to this discussion and in no way are you helping the OP.
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Mine is not total crap. It's been great since I've had it. Just because you may have had a bad expericance with Asus doesn't mean they are all crap. You add ZERO to this discussion and in no way are you helping the OP.
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OT: Mine was total crap when i got it (random reboots, constant browser ANRs, total slowness...), but the community here helped - i installed custom rom and 99% of problems are gone and tablet is now fast, stable and great
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qery said:
OT: Mine was total crap when i got it (random reboots, constant browser ANRs, total slowness...), but the community here helped - i installed custom rom and 99% of problems are gone and tablet is now fast, stable and great
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That’s cool. I'm waiting for my warranty to run out at the end of the month then it's root and unlock for me. I'm kind of scared to do it because mine has worked so well from day one though. I should be getting the dock for Christmas and I can't wait to play with that. The DEV community is great and that is why I like the Android platform so much because of cases like yours.
Hello,
How are you?
I decided I'd share my story and give my insights about the Nexus 10. First a little background...
I have been an OSX user for some years. From Macbook, to Macbook Pro, to iMac, I have long ditched windows for my personal computing needs.
In the gadget front, I have always been an android user. Despite having thought about getting an iPad on some occasions, or even an iPhone, I never actually pulled the trigger.
Since my first smartphone, I have always used android phones, from 2.1, to froyo, to Ginger Bread, ICS and now Jelly bean.
After having several phones I settled for the galaxy nexus. I really like Google Web Services and the way they all just work with android and sync flawlessly.
I also love the Nexus pure android and timely updates.
Because I was so happy with my phone, when the nexus 7 came out, I bought a 16gb wifi unit. It was not my first android tablet. About a year ago I bought an HTC Flyer that a few months later I gave to my wife. At the time I had a Galaxy note and didn't use the tablet that much... But anyway...
I liked the Nexus 7. It is fast, good size, good portability. The device is not ideal for web browsing, but because of it's screen size, it is great to use phone apps to do things, like ebay app, paypal app, tapatalk, and such...
Then, after the confusion of the 13 November nexus 4 and nexus 10 launches, I ended up not getting any. Last week, I was finally able to order a Nexus 10 from the playstore and it was delivered this monday morning...
Unboxed it:
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Beautiful device. Great specs. It was light, well built and with a good feel.
Loved the screen... Beautiful piece of kit.
The front facing speakers were great...
It ran fast as hell... Synced everything with my nexus 7 and galaxy nexus beautifully!
It was a dream of a device... Until I actually started using it...
There were not too many apps for the bigger and higher res screen...
But that is ok. It is not like I use apps for facebook, ebay or forums on my laptop or desktop... I just use the web browser...
So, went and used it on the nexus 10... And that was the disappointment...
The 16:10 screen which becomes 16:9 when in use thanks to the soft buttons is horrible.
Text is crisp as hell, and I see no pixels, but I also see no content...
The tablet is just to short in height to use in landscape mode. I have to scroll and scroll and scroll to use any site... The way the sites scale on chrome, even fully zoomed out, just don't allow enough content on screen...
So, portrait, no problem...
Well, terrible...
It felt like holding a wooden board... The tablet is just too long and becomes too top heavy to use comfortably in portrait... Also, because the screen is narrow, the web sites don't look natural...
After trying to like the Nexus 10, I just couldn't...
Ended up selling it yesterday. Thanks to the high demand and low supply, I still made a tiny profit with it.
And today I ordered an Ipad 4.
I just realised that at the end of the day, it is not specs, or GPU or CPU or Ram or PPI that make a device...
When a company thinks about usability and ergonomics of a device, that just shows in the way it becomes natural and comfortable to use said device.
I just didn't find the Nexus 10 comfortable or natural for what I wanted to use it for, and that was web browsing mainly.
Maybe that will change in the future when android gets really multi tasking with resizable windows. Thanks maybe the 16:10 will be a plus.
But in the current state of tablet operating systems, for me the 4:3 is more natural and better.
So, this is my experience. I must thought I'd share.
At the end of the day this is just my impressions and my opinions and my feelings towards tablets. I am not an apple fanboy or android fanboy. I am a big nerd and a fan of technology.
It is how you feel about what you use and how what you use gets what you need done that matters. In the end of the day, tablets, phones, laptops, are either tools or toys or a bit of both, but they are not what's most important.
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If you're looking for an Android device with a 4:3 aspect ratio, consider buying a Nook HD+. It's probably the lightest small tablet around, and hopefully they'll port CM to it soon.
Well having a tablet, you need buttons. Most go with onscreen buttons, otherwise those cheap brands with buttons that break in a couple clicks.
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I just don't see this topic as being of any use to the community. This adds nothing. If you don't like it fine, return it sell it. But creating a topic? I never understood this other then trying tto get attention.
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Too each their own I suppose. To me the aspect ratio seems like a silly reason to sell it. I too dislike the wasted real-estate of the nav buttons, but with Android you have the choice to get rid of them.
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I just don't see this topic as being of any use to the community. This adds nothing. If you don't like it fine, return it sell it. But creating a topic? I never understood this other then trying tto get attention.
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Are reviews by tech sites useful? Are unboxing pictures and videos useful?
That is always debatable.
As is the usefulness of my topic. It might not be useful to you, it might me to someone else.
I respect that.
This is just my user reviews as someone you bought the device and had a user experience and an impression about it.
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That is funny...
I an called an iTroll, a simple troll, and invited to get out of here with my ipad...
But yet I think I wrote nothing offensive or provocative.
Yet, in here seems android has fanboys like apple is said to have...
People you are narrow minded and don't have tolerance to different opinions from their own.
I am not an apple fanboy, nor an android fanboy.
I own an imac, a lenovo windows laptop, a nexus 7 and a galaxy nexus. If I could afford it I would also have a Lumia 920, a surface tablet, a Macbook retina, and so on.
Because I like technology and I like to try out technology to find the one that suits me best.
I don't need to buy and sell nexus 10s to make a living... If I needed, I would not have bought one, but 20...
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The iPad is terrible for viewing media with black bars on the top and bottom of the screen.
It is also terrible for listening to music with a mono back-facing speaker compared to the front facing stereo on the Nexus 10.
Web sites with a lot of wide detail can be viewed on the Nexus 10 in landscape without zooming.
Web sites with little wide detail can be viewed in portait allowing more to be seen without scrolling.
So the Nexus 10 can be used in which ever way is best for Web sites.
Apple have already realised how much better the 16:9 format is and changed the iPhone 5 and it won't be long before the iPad follows too.
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There were not too many apps for the bigger and higher res screen...
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I imagine this will change in time, but currently, there isn't too much available.
gdourado said:
So, went and used it on the nexus 10... And that was the disappointment...
The 16:10 screen which becomes 16:9 when in use thanks to the soft buttons is horrible.
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On stock, this is a slight problem. On a custom ROM though, can just expand desktop and hide both bars for the full display.
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It felt like holding a wooden board... The tablet is just too long and becomes too top heavy to use comfortably in portrait... Also, because the screen is narrow, the web sites don't look natural...
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I do agree, not a real fan of using portrait mode on the Nexus 10.
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But yet I think I wrote nothing offensive or provocative.
Yet, in here seems android has fanboys like apple is said to have...
People you are narrow minded and don't have tolerance to different opinions from their own.
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I kind of agree, I actually found your post pretty pleasing to read; nothing deserving of a "iTroll" or any other harsh words...
He is a yellow journalist who got paid to do negative campaign. He dont like change and what he meant is that he is comfortable with the vga screen rather than using the hd because he likes it that way. Well enough its just you who like the outdated 4:3. As far as full screen scaled apps are not there. You have to wait a little for that the full hd screens just came out. Devs need time to scale theur apps. U didnt like the form factor well then stick with ur nexus 7. 10 inch is for those who are replacing their PC with a tablet.
In the end not every device is for everyone. Ppl with money just buy everything thinkingit will be productive. Next time consider ur use and then buy a device.
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He is a yellow journalist who got paid to do negative campaign. He dont like change and what he meant is that he is comfortable with the vga screen rather than using the hd because he likes it that way.
Well enough its just you who like the outdated 4:3. As far as full screen scaled apps are not there.
You have to wait a little for that the full hd screens just came out. Devs need time to scale theur apps.
10 inch is for those who are replacing their PC with a tablet.
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FYI - HD is anything over 720p (or 1080p depending on what you think), the ipad 4 isn't VGA. oh. and VGA is not a quality of screen, it's an output method, that can output more than 1080p funnily enough. (ok, lets assume that you mean 640x480 anyways, but the ipad still isn't that)
i find that saying 4:3 is outdated is a little silly, as it does allow you to use it in multiple orientations more easily than a 16:10 (but yeah, 16:10 is nice too for other reasons)
you can't replace a PC with a tablet. (well, not completely)
I don't get people complaining of landscape mode for web browsing. I have yet to own a tablet and can't wait to use the screen size in landscape mode for web browsing, it is going to be a dream.
But this is coming from a guy who never owned a tablet and browses the web on a 4" Ipod 5 in landscape mode.
I am looking forward to the aspect ratio of this tablet. How big do you need?
I just got my nexus 10. Which Google delayed shipping to me because they ran out of stock on the 8 GB phone (mind you I ordered on day 1 too) oh and they put a bumper in lieu of my actual phone and Google csr tier II is terrible. So not only did I have to wait 2 weeks to get my tablet which they still had plenty of stock they ************ forgot the phone which caused the delay in the first place. †************* great.
So now onto my experience with the tablet. It doesn't feel as smooth as the nexus 4. Video playback is amazing though. The text is not as smooth or crops as compared to the iPad 3 in my house. The book readers are terrible ... I am sorry but iBooks is actually much easier to use and in a twist of irony you can also use manually place your own ebooks into I books but you can't with Google's default reader. I also hate this keyboard which I plan to change.
Sent from my nexus 10 for which I have mixed feelings about and perhaps I'm A TAD BIT colored by my extreme hatred over this Google play fiasco.
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FYI - HD is anything over 720p (or 1080p depending on what you think), the ipad 4 isn't VGA. oh. and VGA is not a quality of screen, it's an output method, that can output more than 1080p funnily enough. (ok, lets assume that you mean 640x480 anyways, but the ipad still isn't that)
i find that saying 4:3 is outdated is a little silly, as it does allow you to use it in multiple orientations more easily than a 16:10 (but yeah, 16:10 is nice too for other reasons)
you can't replace a PC with a tablet. (well, not completely)
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lol yes VGA stands for Video Graphics Adapter... i think a fair statement would be for working 4:3 is preferred and when playing 16:10 ... keep in mind tho it wasnt so long ago ALL tvs were 4:3 and now its the opposite most tvs are 16:9 etc.. this is off topic but when i play css on my 52" tv i have to play it in 4:3 ( 640x480 ) because the orientation gets out of whack so to speak if i go to 1600x1200 yeah its time for an HDMI video card. but anyways... the reason i replied was the last statement it made me think about it since i have a tablet and a wireless keyboard and mouse to go with it... to use them i cannot be charging at the same time so i guess you are right portability wise... nice thought tho. if i could get a good news reader on it ( dont see any reason why not just havent looked into it yet) and use my powered hub so the hdd, keyboard, and mouse dont kill the battery on the N7 i cannot see why not ? as far as flash games i am kind of tired of those anyways.. and to replace CSS all i need is a good FPS. i already found a great one ( free) that showcases what the GPU is capable of. just need to get it working with the wiimote and im good.
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FYI - HD is anything over 720p (or 1080p depending on what you think), the ipad 4 isn't VGA. oh. and VGA is not a quality of screen, it's an output method, that can output more than 1080p funnily enough. (ok, lets assume that you mean 640x480 anyways, but the ipad still isn't that)
i find that saying 4:3 is outdated is a little silly, as it does allow you to use it in multiple orientations more easily than a 16:10 (but yeah, 16:10 is nice too for other reasons)
you can't replace a PC with a tablet. (well, not completely)
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Mr. I never expected that ur so dumb that u wont get the humor out of the vga thing. Plus vga never support more than 720 p.
Ur criticizing because u are among those who can bear change. Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority now dont say that u use a visual studio or other compilers for programming or maya and other graphic work. For that sort defintely a tablet is useless.
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the1onewolf said:
I also hate this keyboard which I plan to change.
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Are you joking about the keyboard? iOS keyboard is a POS with letters that always show in upper case even when caps lock is off. They place language setting where it's easily changed by accident instead of properly separating it in settings menu. It doesn't have native swype and voice dictation is weaker.
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Are you joking about the keyboard? iOS keyboard is a POS with letters that always show in upper case even when caps lock is off. They place language setting where it's easily changed by accident instead of properly separating it in settings menu. It doesn't have native swype and voice dictation is weaker.
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Well no ****, it goes without saying that voice dictation is weaker on the iOS.
The rest really is just a matter of preference.
I find the nexus 10 keyboard to be unnecessarily cluttered.
I think the iOS keyboard works a lot better on mobile devices.
I also prefer the nexus 4 keyboard over the tablet because it's simpler and intuitive.
I don't use swype typing with two fingers is much faster for me. I've also heard that this native swype is a pos compared to the real swype.
You don't like it, you can probably change it that's the android way.
Well the book readers at still pretty helpless.
I don't get why there's so much... disapproval over the OP's decision. Buying and using a device should probably be personally enjoyable, or else you would of wasted your money right? He listed his reasons why he didn't like the Nexus 10, and purchased an iPad 4, so what? Did he spend your money? Does his decision affect you in any way? Did a car barrel roll for miles across the world killing thousands because of this decision?
Also, I think there is no "master" device or OS. Different people have different tastes and do different things, there is no 1-device/OS-fits-all, and that is a fact
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Mr. I never expected that ur so dumb that u wont get the humor out of the vga thing. Plus vga never support more than 720 p.
Ur criticizing because u are among those who can bear change. Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority now dont say that u use a visual studio or other compilers for programming or maya and other graphic work. For that sort defintely a tablet is useless.
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Firstly, your humour was pretty poor, if that.
Secondly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA "Today, the VGA analog interface is used for high definition video including 1080p and higher."
(W-W-W-W-WIKIPEDIA'D)
Thirdly, while tablets are pretty damn useful at what they do, they aren't nearly powerful enough to take over PCs (hell, they can't even do multi-windowed stuff) so if all you do is browse the web and email your buddies, then sure you can have a tablet replace a PC.
but... "Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority" is an incredibly short sighted and relatively stupid statement.
have fun storing terabytes of data on your tablet.
(p.s. is it really that difficult to structure a decent sentence with decent grammar?)
Fissurez said:
Firstly, your humour was pretty poor, if that.
Secondly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA "Today, the VGA analog interface is used for high definition video including 1080p and higher."
(W-W-W-W-WIKIPEDIA'D)
Thirdly, while tablets are pretty damn useful at what they do, they aren't nearly powerful enough to take over PCs (hell, they can't even do multi-windowed stuff) so if all you do is browse the web and email your buddies, then sure you can have a tablet replace a PC.
but... "Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority" is an incredibly short sighted and relatively stupid statement.
have fun storing terabytes of data on your tablet.
(p.s. is it really that difficult to structure a decent sentence with decent grammar?)
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1. Proving a point using Wikipedia is... well there's a reason why Wikipedia isn't highly-regarded for 100% factual information
2. You'd be surprised how hard English might be when it's not your native language (not sure if the person's native language is or isn't language, just stating this overall)