I bought an international unit as well as the At&t version on contract. Does anyone know if I can swap the screens? I prefer the speed of the international version but the buttons on the US version.
I will be getting a plastic pry tomorrow and going ahead with the procedure. Would people be interested in seeing if it works? I'll include pictures.
fuzzled said:
I bought an international unit as well as the At&t version on contract. Does anyone know if I can swap the screens? I prefer the speed of the international version but the buttons on the US version.
I will be getting a plastic pry tomorrow and going ahead with the procedure. Would people be interested in seeing if it works? I'll include pictures.
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What makes u think the screens are different?
Posting pics of the procedure would be very cool, but it isn't likely to work totally smoothly. The I777 and I9100 (AT&T and international GS2 variants) are nearly identical in hardware but devs needed to do some rewiring to make the buttons work from I9100 ROMs on I777. You might want to check out Entropy's hellraiser thread; he can probably give you further advice on how to fix up the key mappings. I'm pretty sure it involves modifications to the kernel though, so be careful.
I'd rather go the other way. I want to put the screen/buttons from my international note into my AT&T Note. That way I get LTE, but I also get the sane button layout with physical home key capable of waking the screen. I'm pretty disappointed with the layout on the AT&T Note. If they must insist on the crappy 4-strip of capacitive buttons, they could've at least put the less used search on the far left, which is the hardest place to reach, leaving home, back, and menu easier to hit one-handed.
I don't think is screen related. The processor in the international version is supposed to be faster, which is what makes it smoother man.
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I don't think is screen related. The processor in the international version is supposed to be faster, which is what makes it smoother man.
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It's probably a bad thread title, but what he means is put the entire front assembly from the I717 on the N7000 so that he has international internals with a four-capacitive-button layout. The display panels should be identical, yes.
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I'd rather go the other way. I want to put the screen/buttons from my international note into my AT&T Note. That way I get LTE, but I also get the sane button layout with physical home key capable of waking the screen. I'm pretty disappointed with the layout on the AT&T Note. If they must insist on the crappy 4-strip of capacitive buttons, they could've at least put the less used search on the far left, which is the hardest place to reach, leaving home, back, and menu easier to hit one-handed.
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Update
Welp, I took both devices apart yesterday and here are the photos.
As one can see the LCD assembly chassis are slightly different between the two versions, thus I was unable to swap the screens. Although I felt if I separated the LCD chassis from the LCD itself I might have succeeded. However this step would have exposed the LCD to particulates, i.e. dust, and would have been a pain to perform without a clean room.
There are some slight differences in the "guts" of the system. Mainly the memory card reader in the International Note (IN) is soldered onto the board vs. the AT&T version which is connected via a cable.
The speaker/usb charger portion also had slight differences which I failed to take an adequate photo of. The ATT version seemed to be adhered to the chassis while the IN could be removed, hence the picture without the speaker.
Both devices have been reassembled and it was fun to compare between the two.
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I like the buttons on the European/Asian HD2 much more than the TMO-US model. They are slightly more subtle and arguably elegant. I personally think that the Red and Green call keys make the device look dated. I also hate how the US Phone has the T-Mobile branding on the top. Anywho, enough chit chat.
Is it possible to replace the physical keys on the device to the white ones on the European models? Better yet the T-mobile branding? I know this is a bit out there, but I really like my phone a lot and will be living with it presumably for the next 1.5 years. If anyone has any pointers or suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance my XDA brethren.
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I like the buttons on the European/Asian HD2 much more than the TMO-US model. They are slightly more subtle and arguably elegant. I personally think that the Red and Green call keys make the device look dated. I also hate how the US Phone has the T-Mobile branding on the top. Anywho, enough chit chat.
Is it possible to replace the physical keys on the device to the white ones on the European models? Better yet the T-mobile branding? I know this is a bit out there, but I really like my phone a lot and will be living with it presumably for the next 1.5 years. If anyone has any pointers or suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance my XDA brethren.
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i cant agree with you more on everything that you've said.
1) I am from US and I HATE the hideous tmobile logo. It, sadly, is a deal breaker for me.
2) The buttons are red and green! Get-outta-heah!
3) That extra long chin on the bottom of the american HD2? FUGLY.
I've thought about it many, many times about how much I think i am missing using a EURO hd2 on an american t-mobile line. Does it suck that I don't have data? yes. Do I care much about it though? no. I have no need for it as of now since I have wifi at work all day. And I cant be using my hd2 while on the freeway while I commute. so really im not missing out.
I've had many thought about getting a US hd2, and swapping the screens (To get rid of the logo) and the hardware keys. I've done my research on hd2's disassembly via photos and videos. Unfortunatly, getting to the hardware keys is probably the last thing you'll get ino order to swap them out. That means, you'll have to disassemble almost you're entire phone to get to it.
The screen is also difficult. Can't remember though. But yeah.
ive not seen a single swapped out hd2 of american with euro.
i'd love to see one. i think it'd be great.
my hd2 has a chin? I thought only the hero came with a chin?
http://www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/681/htc-hero-handset.jpg
man, y'all are some nitpicky people.
I'll keep my red and green buttons, and how dare t-mobile brand their phones which they subsidize!!!!
I'll also keep my 4-5mbps data speeds and my double memory of the euro hd2. Only games go on my sd card.
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my hd2 has a chin? I thought only the hero came with a chin?
http://www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/681/htc-hero-handset.jpg
man, y'all are some nitpicky people.
I'll keep my red and green buttons, and how dare t-mobile brand their phones which they subsidize!!!!
I'll also keep my 4-5mbps data speeds and my double memory of the euro hd2. Only games go on my sd card.
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i think me means the extra inch or two the amercan hd2 has at the bottom
hey guys getting a vibrant with a cracked digitizer for my g/f. correct me if im wrong but it appears to be next to impossible to replace just the digitizer from what i read.... (please comment if you have done it) i see the i9000 parts are cheaper everywhere but the buttons are different. i wont be running a stock rom on it and i plan on adding a ffc so....
1. would it be physically possible to use the i9000 replacement screen on it?
2. would the buttons be a problem? not sure what the square one on the i9000 is (trackpad?) or where the home button is if there is one....
3. does anyone have a clue or am i the first to bring this up? i have searched my self silly!
4. digitizers are cheap should i just try to replace it? whos done it and what do you glue the new screen with? (i cant find any decent write ups)
i know the i9000 and vibrant have diff roms but im hopping that has to do with the radios etc. maybe i can edit the keyboard file or something to make it work.. but not sure about that pad thing...
i know this is alot of questions and i dont expect one answer. if anyone has any knowledge on any of this id really appreciate it and thanks in advance!!! id like to join the samsung crew as ive always had htc (since g1) but always secretly wanted a samsung too haha so what better excuse than to get the gf one
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hey guys getting a vibrant with a cracked digitizer for my g/f. correct me if im wrong but it appears to be next to impossible to replace just the digitizer from what i read.... (please comment if you have done it) i see the i9000 parts are cheaper everywhere but the buttons are different. i wont be running a stock rom on it and i plan on adding a ffc so....
1. would it be physically possible to use the i9000 replacement screen on it?
2. would the buttons be a problem? not sure what the square one on the i9000 is (trackpad?) or where the home button is if there is one....
3. does anyone have a clue or am i the first to bring this up? i have searched my self silly!
4. digitizers are cheap should i just try to replace it? whos done it and what do you glue the new screen with? (i cant find any decent write ups)
i know the i9000 and vibrant have diff roms but im hopping that has to do with the radios etc. maybe i can edit the keyboard file or something to make it work.. but not sure about that pad thing...
i know this is alot of questions and i dont expect one answer. if anyone has any knowledge on any of this id really appreciate it and thanks in advance!!! id like to join the samsung crew as ive always had htc (since g1) but always secretly wanted a samsung too haha so what better excuse than to get the gf one
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Sorry to tell you but the i9000 screen wont work at all. You will mess up your phone up big time if you start messing with the screen/digitizer as its one unit. Call samsung repair and that may be your best bet for a new screen replacement.
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It's not possible.
Call Samsung, maybe you can get it replaced for free (or really cheap).
I'm guessing that you don't have a warranty with T-Mobile, because they cover this (my screen was damaged, and I got a replacement).
The 'pad thing' is actually a big iPhone style physical home key - it's plasticky and ugly, and the reason I got the Vibrant over the i9000. You definitely won't be able to use i9000 components on the Vibrant, the i9000 screen and digitizer are built to accommodate that button, not the Vibrant's four capacitive keys.
They have the same back, though, so you can use i9000 cases and battery doors just fine.
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Well if I used the i9k parts I would swap housing LCD and digitizer all together so the button and everything would be there. I'm pretty sure it would physically go on but not sure if I can get the buttons to actually work. I know you can edit the keypad file as I've done it on my mytouch 4g but not sure if that's all I'd need to do or not :/ figured someone might have been in a situation that they tried it and couldn't hurt to ask. I have warrenty and insurance on my mytouch but I'm buying the broken vibrant out right so I'd think I could buy the parts and put them in myself cheaper than anyone would charge... I've repplaced the screens on several phones already so not a problem there. Guess that's what ill do.
Another thing Id consider is the vibrant 4g screen as it has the spot for the ffc unpainted already and everything else appears identicle but only place I see it for sale there's a min 2 per order >< has anyone ever successfully replaces just the digitizer? Its sold seporate for 35 and I read you need a new ribon as its almost impossible to pull LCD from digitizer without tearing the cable.
Hi, i just wondering if we can replace Samsung Vibrant screen with the Samsung Galaxy S 4G one so that we don't need to manually make a hole for our front facing camera, is that possible?
If so, that would be really awesome.
any body?
I dont see why not except, isnt the screen glued on and wouldn't removing the screen make it impossible to re-attach another
I think u could...as long as u carefully remove the old glue with some goo gone or something like it..but im not sure what kinda glue to use to reattach the screen
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Can we use an entire LCD/Digitizer/Bezel assembly? I'm thinking of buying this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Vib...ultDomain_0&hash=item35b598e1f2#ht_500wt_1202
No one knows if the T959V and T959 have interchangeable parts?
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I've installed an FFC on my vibrant. You don't need a new screen. You just need to take apart the phone from the back. The bezel doesn't even have to come off. Get yourself a Revision 2 FFC and when you go to install it, the only thing you'll need is a guitar pick (works great) or another safe prying tool to take the phone apart, Goo-Gone and Q-Tips. The hardest part of the whole process is the amount of time you'll be sitting there taking the black paint off the screen with the Goo-Gone. It's taken me about 30 minutes on two phones I've done. The hole is already there. Your phone will look just like the Galaxy S 4G!
Thanks for the reply, but the Vibrant my friend gave me has a cracked screen and bezel that I have to replace anyway. I figured it might be easier to just buy a new screen with a camera hole already (which the T959V does have) than to scrape out one.
Also what rom do you recommend? Seems they all have problems - unstable, no 911, no gps etc.
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Thanks for the reply, but the Vibrant my friend gave me has a cracked screen and bezel that I have to replace anyway. I figured it might be easier to just buy a new screen with a camera hole already (which the T959V does have) than to scrape out one.
Also what rom do you recommend? Seems they all have problems - unstable, no 911, no gps etc.
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as far as roms go for 911, only the Cyangen based roms have that issue, gps fonuctions on almost all 2.3 roms, and all 2.1/2.2 roms. stability really seems based on the device. i use Miui as a daily driver, yet i see people complain about issues that in the 5 months of running it I have never personally experienced.
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as far as roms go for 911, only the Cyangen based roms have that issue, gps fonuctions on almost all 2.3 roms, and all 2.1/2.2 roms. stability really seems based on the device. i use Miui as a daily driver, yet i see people complain about issues that in the 5 months of running it I have never personally experienced.
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protohamster said:
Thanks for the reply, but the Vibrant my friend gave me has a cracked screen and bezel that I have to replace anyway. I figured it might be easier to just buy a new screen with a camera hole already (which the T959V does have) than to scrape out one.
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I know this is really late and a bit off topic to be honest, but to anyone interested, I just used a LCD/Digitizer/Bezel/microphone/antennae assembly out of a Vibrant to put in my SGS4G. Different application, but I'm sure it'll work the same given the circumstances of any one still wanting to put a front facing camera in their Vibrant. The only difference is I had to switch out the ear piece/audio jack/proximity sensor assembly because it had a different connector on the board. This is the lazy fix for someone who has both phones, but needs to swap out certain parts. In my case it was the entire screen and bezel, but this confirms the OP's question, yes it will work.
Just thought I post results since I came to this thread in the first place looking for answers.
Hello all,
I'm trying to decide between the Amaze and the SGII from Telus, and the most important thing to me is the size of the keys and how well both work in landscape mode. I have large hands, and I will be doing a lot of texting and e-mailing from my phone as I do use my phones as business tools as well. It doesn't matter that one might have a slightly better camera than the other, or that one is a slightly superior movie viewing experience. I have always had physical keyboards, so it will take some getting used to lifting my thumbs between each keystroke already.
The dealers around where I live have all been reluctant to let me see both side by side, but it seems to me that the Amaze, despite being a smaller screen, actually has larger keys in landscape mode. Is anyone able to confirm this? Thanks to any that can shed light on this.
Telus dealer's should have no problem letting you see them side by side. At first they didn't want to let me handle either one of them but when I told them that I'm not about to sign a 3 year contract without looking at what I'm getting they agreed and allowed me to play with both.
As to your question, it seems to me that the Telus keyboard is bigger and easier to manage, but since that wasn't the focus of what I was looking at, I'm just going from (a rather poor) memory. I'd go back to a store and TELL them you want to see both phones.
Yeah the Telus I went to they let me try out the Amaze. They got one from the back that wasn't connected to anything. They just handed it to me and left me alone to play with it. I could have just ran out with a working phone. I compared the two but I never tried landscape. I would think the Samsung has a bigger keyboard because the screen is bigger, the resolution is lower so things are stretched out more.
i just got my amaze from telus (upgrading from desire hd) and i notice a HUGE difference in the ease of the keyboard. number 1 the duel core makes it keep up as i type fast, unlike the ****ty 1ghrtz on the DHD which wud be a bit behind, and the letters blow up a bit bigger to i think cause im finding it MUCH easier to type on the amaze. oh ya the swipe keyboard is awesome to once you get the hang of it
Thanks for the info guys. For some reason they always put one away before taking the other one out. Maybe I look like I'm going to take one and run out, guess I'll have to be more insistent.
I also noticed that the Samsung's keyboard doesn't have a comma, that you have to go to the # screen to get to it. I'm guessing that I'll be able to find one on the market that has it.
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Thanks for the info guys. For some reason they always put one away before taking the other one out. Maybe I look like I'm going to take one and run out, guess I'll have to be more insistent.
I also noticed that the Samsung's keyboard doesn't have a comma, that you have to go to the # screen to get to it. I'm guessing that I'll be able to find one on the market that has it.
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Are you sure the comma isn't somewhere on the keyboard above one of the other letters? I know that at first on the Amaze keyboard I was going into the # screen to get to the question mark, then I realized that I can press and hold the "k" to get the question mark. Samsung may be similar. Have a look.
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Are you sure the comma isn't somewhere on the keyboard above one of the other letters? I know that at first on the Amaze keyboard I was going into the # screen to get to the question mark, then I realized that I can press and hold the "k" to get the question mark. Samsung may be similar. Have a look.
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There probably is one that's a long press, I meant a dedicated key without having to resort to a long press. Guess it's just one of those things I'm going to get used to coming from a physical keyboard.
Oh, and thanks for mentioning the question mark. Now I'm going to obsess about looking for an easy way to get to that
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There probably is one that's a long press, I meant a dedicated key without having to resort to a long press. Guess it's just one of those things I'm going to get used to coming from a physical keyboard.
Oh, and thanks for mentioning the question mark. Now I'm going to obsess about looking for an easy way to get to that
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Coming from a physical keyboard can be difficult. I came from a physical keyboard (samsung slide) to touch on the Hero. I never really got used to it on that phone. The keys were so small even in landscape. I'm finding a huge difference with the Amaze. Way easier on the bigger screen.
I'm hoping the larger keys will make the transition. Thanks for your input. I see you're from the greatest city in the world (yes I'm a Surrey boy). It was the Apex in Langley, and the Telus store by the WalMart on 64th that didn't want me to see both at the same time.
I went to Best Buy and they let me see both side by side after a little coaxing. And yeah....I'm not too proud to admit I'm from Surrey. Not all of us are riot crashers.
Went back to Apex, finally got someone to show me both. The SGII's landscape keyboard is bigger than the Amaze's, about 3x2 mm bigger. Enough of a difference for me. In portrait mode, not even close, the SGII's was about 20% larger. Might actually be useable for me and my monster hands. The Amaze's camera was definitely better, but I was surprised to see some shooting modes missing that the T-mo version has.
I'd be happy with either, I'm sure, but I have to go with the SGII for the larger keyboards. Thanks to those who lent their input, I appreciate it.
Amaze Keyboard
Just thought I'd suggest the "Gingerbread Keyboard" from Steven Lin on the market.
Honestly one of the best keyboards I've ever used, coming from the MT4G.
Haven't had a chance to try it on the Amaze but will do sometime soon.
Let me know if you like it any better or if it even works on the Amaze.
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Just thought I'd suggest the "Gingerbread Keyboard" from Steven Lin on the market.
Honestly one of the best keyboards I've ever used, coming from the MT4G.
Haven't had a chance to try it on the Amaze but will do sometime soon.
Let me know if you like it any better or if it even works on the Amaze.
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I had a look at that keyboard on my Amaze and it actually makes the keys smaller. Particularly in portrait. The bonus to that keyboard though is the addition of a row along the top with all the punctuation. That is a useful feature. Too bad it was added at the expense of key size.
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I had a look at that keyboard on my Amaze and it actually makes the keys smaller. Particularly in portrait. The bonus to that keyboard though is the addition of a row along the top with all the punctuation. That is a useful feature. Too bad it was added at the expense of key size.
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Oh really? That sucks. =( I do like that keyboard a lot.
Been using it for a year already on my MT4G. I do love the punctuation though.
The word selection comes easier for me too. Auto correct I mean.
I also like that after selecting a word it automatically spaces for me to start
typing my next word. And spacing twice puts a period. Holding enter brings up smiley faces. The list goes on. I may install on my Amaze anyway and see how I like it.
Thanks for the feedback though.
Hey, guys. I'm asking this question for my friend's wife who believes she's having trouble with her screen. She claims that apps will open when she means to swipe, and that the screen is overly sensitive.
I won't rule out user error, but if any of you have heard other reports of this, and perhaps have a solution, let me know?
Thanks in advance!
Before root I can vouch that it was sensitive. After root and downloading viper it hasn't been sensitive at all.
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Before root I can vouch that it was sensitive. After root and downloading viper it hasn't been sensitive at all.
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Ok, so do I take that to mean you feel the screen is now not sensitive enough? Do you think it was the rooting that caused the change in sensitivity, or the ROM? In the case of my friend's wife, she has no interest in flashing ROMs or any such thing, she just needs the phone to work for her.
Is there some sort of patch that can be applied to fix it so that we don't have to flash another ROM?
Yes I understand. She may be doing it wrong when she is swiping from screeb to screen. She maybe pressing down first enabling the app to start up. Maybe the phone does have problems. She can speak with a tech from Verizon and do trouble shoot.
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What i meant was stock dna was too sensitive. it was very sensitive when i touch the screen and it would open apps just like you said in the first post. When i rooted the phone and installed viper, it got less sensitive and it was much better.
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Ok, so do I take that to mean you feel the screen is now not sensitive enough? Do you think it was the rooting that caused the change in sensitivity, or the ROM? In the case of my friend's wife, she has no interest in flashing ROMs or any such thing, she just needs the phone to work for her.
Is there some sort of patch that can be applied to fix it so that we don't have to flash another ROM?
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Rooting wouldn't change sensitivity, I'd assume, just different ROM configs...
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Thanks for the feedback, guys. Looks like my friend and his wife will be trading the DNAs back in exchange for two Galaxy S4's.
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Thanks for the feedback, guys. Looks like my friend and his wife will be trading the DNAs back in exchange for two Galaxy S4's.
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That's too bad.
Assuming they are with Verizon, they could wait a few days and get a One.
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That's too bad.
Assuming they are with Verizon, they could wait a few days and get a One.
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I suggested that, but timing is important. I don't know if they can wait. If they can't hold out, the S4 is a nice phone. Seems right now that and the One are the phone's to beat.
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i refuse to trade my device in tell them to sell on ebay get way better prices of some cell service as they will have to pay crazy anyways for the new phones
Understanding of the technology is needed.
All smartphones now a days use what's called a "capacitive" screen. Back during the old days it was called "resistive". The difference is big. Resistive touch screens needed to be calibrated routinely. The user also needed to push into the screen for the input to happen. They were unreliable because they would go bad from people pushing to hard and they had to be plastic for it bendable nature allowing scratches.
Capacitive screens use the electricity (not heat) in your body to pickup input. Therefore glass could be used and thus making it more scratch resistant and without a constant bendable nature, became more reliable. When your finger touches the screen there is a build up of ions underneath your finger. Think about how lightning hits the earth. These charges find the most efficient route thru your finger (like lightning). Hence people with giant fat fingers can use a keyboard on a 3"screen. Because as long as the piece of skin making contact is directly over the input out chooses the center because it is the most efficient route thru it otherwise rounded finger tips. However if we gently push into the screen then more surface area becomes available causing the "center" of contact to shift causing the screen to shift along with it because the system thinks it is the user trying to swipe.
This becomes an issue for people who in the past used resistive screens because they want to push into the screen(more so when they get frustrated as they continue to not choose what they intended because they try to force the finger onto the screen even harder). It is a matter of breaking a habit. Let's face it . Everyone hates change and would much rather keep everything the same.
I highly feel that by returning and trying a different phone will not help.
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