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After searching through the changelogs of many of Team Whiskey's and Master's Axura roms, I have noticed that many of the changelog features are framework changes and new skins on the stock rom. That being said, I am not flaming anyone as I do appreciate their work but are many devs for the Vibrant skinners or true coders such as Barack, Eugene, etc?
Again, THIS IS NOT A POST TO START FLAMING PEOPLE!
I'm going to leave this open for the time being with the understanding that the thread may be closed by the designated Moderator for this forum the moment the thread goes off-topic.
I'm about as "true developer" as you can get. I've written software in machine language and entered it in hex with a 16-key pad. I've written embedded systems. I've written software that was good enough that MS bought the company. I've written drivers. I've run dev shops with 400 employees. I have systems in production that process more than $150 billion worth of annual global transactions. There isn't a lot in the software world that I haven't tried my hand at.
And *I* don't have the time to screw around with building something like Nero v3. But I flashed it the other day and it rocked the tits off my previously-stock-Eclair phone, and I was pretty satisfied with the whole thing, and it never once occurred to me to wonder whether the TW guys were "real" developers or not.
In short: who cares? I willing to bet I can lay claim to the title "developer" on par with the hardest of the hardcore coders here, and I'm here to tell you if it bothers you that they're calling themselves developers because you suspect they may not size up to your standards, you should probably just move along -- or keep it to yourself.
Maybe a swift kick in the balls would've been kinder.....a little over the line I think. I really don't care who it is, but anyone who takes the time to change framwork or "reskin" a ROM has done more than my fat little fingers can do. They may not all be as great as Team Whiskey or Eugene, but they still develop something, so in short, sure they are all developers. As long as someone gives credit where due, and asked permission where necessary, then the laws of the universe are still being followed......
XPLANE9 said:
After searching through the changelogs of many of Team Whiskey's and Master's Axura roms, I have noticed that many of the changelog features are framework changes and new skins on the stock rom. That being said, I am not flaming anyone as I do appreciate their work but are many devs for the Vibrant skinners or true coders such as Barack, Eugene, etc?
Again, THIS IS NOT A POST TO START FLAMING PEOPLE!
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I think it is a fair enough question to post... but I ask you, what is it that you hope to answer or establish? Guidelines to correct nomenclature? E-peen? I just don't quite get the nature of your interrogatory...
hilaireg said:
I'm going to leave this open for the time being with the understanding that the thread may be closed by the designated Moderator for this forum the moment the thread goes off-topic.
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Kudos to you... that is exactly why a functioning MOD committee is a great thing for XDA. I applaud your commitment to open discourse.
MV10 said:
I'm about as "true developer" as you can get. I've written software in machine language and entered it in hex with a 16-key pad. I've written embedded systems. I've written software that was good enough that MS bought the company. I've written drivers. I've run dev shops with 400 employees. I have systems in production that process more than $150 billion worth of annual global transactions. There isn't a lot in the software world that I haven't tried my hand at.
And *I* don't have the time to screw around with building something like Nero v3. But I flashed it the other day and it rocked the tits off my previously-stock-Eclair phone, and I was pretty satisfied with the whole thing, and it never once occurred to me to wonder whether the TW guys were "real" developers or not.
In short: who cares? I willing to bet I can lay claim to the title "developer" on par with the hardest of the hardcore coders here, and I'm here to tell you if it bothers you that they're calling themselves developers because you suspect they may not size up to your standards, you should probably just move along -- or keep it to yourself.
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Listing your credentials may (and I stress may) have been a bit over the top... but point well taken nonetheless.
gtiryan said:
Maybe a swift kick in the balls would've been kinder.....a little over the line I think. I really don't care who it is, but anyone who takes the time to change framwork or "reskin" a ROM has done more than my fat little fingers can do. They may not all be as great as Team Whiskey or Eugene, but they still develop something, so in short, sure they are all developers. As long as someone gives credit where due, and asked permission where necessary, then the laws of the universe are still being followed......
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Also very fair point...
XPLANE9 said:
After searching through the changelogs of many of Team Whiskey's and Master's Axura roms, I have noticed that many of the changelog features are framework changes and new skins on the stock rom. That being said, I am not flaming anyone as I do appreciate their work but are many devs for the Vibrant skinners or true coders such as Barack, Eugene, etc?
Again, THIS IS NOT A POST TO START FLAMING PEOPLE!
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Soo, you call two set of dev teams just skinners.. and one team coders, yet expect not to start a flame war?
I also don't know how you get "many of master's axura roms" there is only ONE axura rom.. And if you look at features, you could tell that it is not just a "Skin" you could also tell that in the change-logs if you looked past "Just framework mods" framework mods aren't just images btw.
If you honestly don't want to start a flame war, it is best not to post these types of threads.
I've considered this question myself and the answer I've come up with is, I don't care.
Whether they're truly writing new code or just reskinning or theming it's still more than I can do. They do it in their spare time and offer their work to us for free. So I guess my question to you is, what difference does it make?
Poser said:
Listing your credentials may (and I stress may) have been a bit over the top... but point well taken nonetheless.
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I have a pretty strong suspicion that the OP is a developer and is trying to pull the "harder-core than thou" card, so it seemed appropriate at the time.
There is ALWAYS somebody better than you. If you're smart, you'll call those people "employees."
I agree with that I don't really care, as long as who ever it may be, don't start releasing garbage that bricks my phone, I'm content.
I don't run an empire of $888.000.656.99...gabillion dollars with 2 interlaced brains that can code the matrix's live wallpaper, but in my little, I'm able to flash a ROM or 2.
XPLANE9 said:
After searching through the changelogs of many of Team Whiskey's and Master's Axura roms, I have noticed that many of the changelog features are framework changes and new skins on the stock rom. That being said, I am not flaming anyone as I do appreciate their work but are many devs for the Vibrant skinners or true coders such as Barack, Eugene, etc?
Again, THIS IS NOT A POST TO START FLAMING PEOPLE!
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When you write something remotely as good as Axura or V3 then you can make these statements.
Until then you're just being an ignorant troll.
The op is a flame in itself, why is it still up?
willsnews said:
The op is a flame in itself, why is it still up?
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^^Have to agree personally.
Anyway, anyone who develops something is a developer (dur). This means themes, mods, guides, roms, etc.
As for the ignorant comment the OP made about changelogs, most "devs" don't take the time to list off every detail of the performance enhancements they made. Why? Because you wouldn't know what they're talking about if they did, and there's too many to list. If you're one of the few that could actually read and understand such a changelog, then you probably could be/are making your own roms anyway.
Yes some roms available on any phone's forum are more build around aesthetic changes, while others are geared towards efficiency, while others for raw power. That doesn't make one superior to another, but rather simply built for a different consumer.
MWBehr said:
^^Have to agree personally.
Anyway, anyone who develops something is a developer (dur). This means themes, mods, guides, roms, etc.
As for the ignorant comment the OP made about changelogs, most "devs" don't take the time to list off every detail of the performance enhancements they made. Why? Because you wouldn't know what they're talking about if they did, and there's too many to list. If you're one of the few that could actually read and understand such a changelog, then you probably could be/are making your own roms anyway.
Yes some roms available on any phone's forum are more build around aesthetic changes, while others are geared towards efficiency, while others for raw power. That doesn't make one superior to another, but rather simply built for a different consumer.
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i just made a do-do in the toilet, am i a developer?
jk lol
MWBehr said:
most "devs" don't take the time to list off every detail of the performance enhancements they made. Why? Because you wouldn't know what they're talking about if they did, and there's too many to list. If you're one of the few that could actually read and understand such a changelog, then you probably could be/are making your own roms anyway.
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I have to agree with this. I remember on Obsidian V5 Sombionix listed in the change log in great detail what he changed including userscripts and kernel tweaks only to be bombarded with questions about what they meant/do. A lot of the users don't understand the technical aspects and just want something "cool." Devs already get blasted with a barrage of questions and really don't need to add more fuel to the fire so to speak. It seems the OP more or less called TW and Master "skinners." The above says otherwise regarding TW and as for Master just look at the layout of his latest "beast" not to mention the Sense port he got booting on our phones. I would definitely call this development, wouldn't you agree?
xriderx66 said:
i just made a do-do in the toilet, am i a developer?
jk lol
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I know you were only making a joke, but basically (using it as an anology of course) yes. Is a kid that picks up an instrument for the first time a musician? Yes. Is he good or does anyone care that he's a musician? Probably not (other than his parents). Should he share his work with the world? Again, only his parents should hear it.
The point isn't "are you or aren't you a developer" it's simply a mater of what we percieve as different levels in skill. This doesn't even mean that our perception is accurate, but we're entitled to our opinions. And if you think a developer should have kept his work to himself or herself, then don't download it, and all is right in the world.
So yes, if you develop crap, you're still a developer, just maybe shouldn't share your product with the world
Zip Developer, Cyanogen and his Merry men or somebody dropping pure source I can careless. They contribute more than half the downloaders and requesters wanting more.
I say let them do their Jobs and be greatful they are here. Use somebody elses work and give them credit as long as its an option. I like options
hi crew,
I couldn't seem to find the answer or a logical breakdown on this topic and so I wanted hear from the folks here at xda. I'm relatively new and just learned about this website last year while I was searching for things to do with my HD2. I used to flash all kinds of stuffs on my phone and really enjoy it. However, I moved on to the Sensation, touchpad, kindle fire, and Dell 7.
except for the touchpad (cm7), I'm keeping everything else stock and unrooted. This year alone there were several incidents with security on android platform .. Skype, malicious apps on market and forums, and I believe there was also ISSues with custom roms for folks in China. I guess my question is .. How easy is it to include a malicious coding into a custom Rom? If a developer/chef can modify just about every aspect of this platform then I'm guessing it won't break much sweat for them to include these spying coding into a custom Rom?
don't get me wrong because I truly believe that 99.999% of developers on this forum is dedicated and passionate about giving us the ultimate user experience. But if you look at the math, it only takes 1 out of every 100,000 and that's enough to create fear in many of us. Is there a way for users (common users) like myself to determine if there is something else coded in a custom Rom? Would it help at all to protect our privacy with an AV?
of course, one answer to my question is to avoid custom Rom! But yet, with the recent news about carrier iq even with stock you are still being monitored. Since I'm not a developer and have very limited knowledge about this area, I just wanted ask the questions here to hear inputs, suggestions, and opinions from more experienced users (and perhaps developers if any). Thanks!
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qdochemistry said:
How easy is it to include a malicious coding into a custom Rom? If a developer/chef can modify just about every aspect of this platform then I'm guessing it won't break much sweat for them to include these spying coding into a custom Rom?
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Very easy.
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Is there a way for users (common users) like myself to determine if there is something else coded in a custom Rom? Would it help at all to protect our privacy with an AV?
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It depends. You could use an antivirus, but they mainly just scan your apps, media, and settings; so if the malicious 'thing' is directly built into the rom, it will not be detected. If it was an app (or in one), then there is a chance it would be detected.
Thanks .. that was indeed my thoughts but since I don't know much about coding or "cooking" and so figured I'd would ask. XDA is a great community but it is a scary thought having to think that our privacy with custom roms is entirely relying on the "honor code" of developers. I have not read about anything isolated incidents with infected ROMs, and much less would something like that happen here at XDA. I hope I am correct with the assumption that ROMs being released here are somehow being cross-checked by someone .. but I guess that would be a great amount of effort as too many ROMs are being released everyday on this site.
Again, there are many reputable developers in this community but just thought that I'd ask since it would only take one to ruin the effort of a million ... if anyone got thoughts or opinions feel free to comment.
Thanks for replying
I think that's a very valid concern. I am using a custom rom right now so this is also my concern.
I hope I am correct with the assumption that ROMs being released here are somehow being cross-checked by someone .. but I guess that would be a great amount of effort as too many ROMs are being released everyday on this site.
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Well, I don't think there is anyone / any party responsible for checking the released ROMs given that the amount of work required...So what I do is to avoid dealing anything sensitive with the phone (even I was using Stock ROM). All this kind of stuff I will do it with my desktop where I feel I have more control.
lol .. same here .. on devices with ported ROMs I am quite careful as to what I do with it .. and on stock devices i do keep the number of apps to the minimal. But it's just sad being that way .. or may be i'm just paranoid!
I unlocked the bootloader from Sony. How can I root it?
stephenyu said:
I unlocked the bootloader from Sony. How can I root it?
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You need to flash a custom kernel.
Thankfully, DooMLoRD is awesome and supportive.
Ricky D said:
You need to flash a custom kernel.
Thankfully, DooMLoRD is awesome and supportive.
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THanks
I flashed it. The tablet cannot power on
stephenyu said:
I flashed it. The tablet cannot power on
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Someone tell me why I am not surprised at all... :/
To be a bit more constructive: It's a real common problem - "root experts" usually use a kind of secret language when talking about root issues and how-to instructions.
A novice doesn't have much of a chance understanding the tech talk emerging, is quite prone to brick his device; see above.
That's why root commonly remains a secret of the experts, does not become a wide-spread everyday method.
And that's a bad thing ! - Why ?
- If more "plain normal" users were able to root their devices the easy way, more "plain normal" users would actually do.
- If more users root their devices, there would be some more positive pressure on manufacturers about helping with these things.
- If more users can root their devices, more users are willing to donate some money to developers.
- More root users build a stronger community, preventing manufacturers like Samsung trying to prohibit rooting at all costs.
Of course I know the disadvantage: Google wouldn't like that too much because more users would be able to block advertizing and forced Google services and bloatware, would be able to avoid idiotic things like that infamous SD write prohibition introduced with Android 4.4.
So Google might try to fight rooting even more.
Understood.
But Google would realize there's a growing need in the community. And if needs of a broad mass of users won't get satisfied, Google would lose a great deal of customers in the long run.
If we remain a tiny group of root supporters, we'll get ignored more and more. And one day, the chances to root will be gone forever: Because the broad community just doesn't do rooting - and manufacturers won't give a sh... on the ever-shrinking group of root lovers.
So a sound balance might do the trick: Slowly introduce the "secrets" of rooting to the community, in a simple way everybody's able to cope with, slowly create a steadily growing community of people which can make themselves heard.
No more "secret language", no more incomprehensible abbreviations - just plain normal step-by-step instructions so just everybody will be able to root. If he wants to.
This wouldn't start an avalanche of users turning their faces to rooting their devices, but could help building up a larger community Google and other manufacturers just cannot afford to ignore.
If rooting stays a secret method for just a fistful of enlighted adepts (and a far larger mass of users just pretending to know what it's all about), manufacturers are going to lock up their devices more and more.
Just think about Samsung; Knox, Region lock, eFuse...
Things will get very, very bad over time.
Just think about it.
Chefproll said:
Someone tell me why I am not surprised at all... :/
To be a bit more constructive: It's a real common problem - "root experts" usually use a kind of secret language when talking about root issues and how-to instructions.
A novice doesn't have much of a chance understanding the tech talk emerging, is quite prone to brick his device; see above.
That's why root commonly remains a secret of the experts, does not become a wide-spread everyday method.
And that's a bad thing ! - Why ?
- If more "plain normal" users were able to root their devices the easy way, more "plain normal" users would actually do.
- If more users root their devices, there would be some more positive pressure on manufacturers about helping with these things.
- If more users can root their devices, more users are willing to donate some money to developers.
- More root users build a stronger community, preventing manufacturers like Samsung trying to prohibit rooting at all costs.
Of course I know the disadvantage: Google wouldn't like that too much because more users would be able to block advertizing and forced Google services and bloatware, would be able to avoid idiotic things like that infamous SD write prohibition introduced with Android 4.4.
So Google might try to fight rooting even more.
Understood.
But Google would realize there's a growing need in the community. And if needs of a broad mass of users won't get satisfied, Google would lose a great deal of customers in the long run.
If we remain a tiny group of root supporters, we'll get ignored more and more. And one day, the chances to root will be gone forever: Because the broad community just doesn't do rooting - and manufacturers won't give a sh... on the ever-shrinking group of root lovers.
So a sound balance might do the trick: Slowly introduce the "secrets" of rooting to the community, in a simple way everybody's able to cope with, slowly create a steadily growing community of people which can make themselves heard.
No more "secret language", no more incomprehensible abbreviations - just plain normal step-by-step instructions so just everybody will be able to root. If he wants to.
This wouldn't start an avalanche of users turning their faces to rooting their devices, but could help building up a larger community Google and other manufacturers just cannot afford to ignore.
If rooting stays a secret method for just a fistful of enlighted adepts (and a far larger mass of users just pretending to know what it's all about), manufacturers are going to lock up their devices more and more.
Just think about Samsung; Knox, Region lock, eFuse...
Things will get very, very bad over time.
Just think about it.
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I think you misunderstand the situation a little. Google does encourage rooting within the developer community, it is how they ensure a good app developer base. They've made the android SDK easier and more accessible than ever in recent years to support that, not to mention the introduction of Nexus devices was with the sole intention of offering developers a base 'common' software and hardware on which to develop.
There is no secret language, only a vocabulary specific to these processes. Imagine approaching Windows with a absolutlely no idea what it is, how it works in the background and no developer experience. It'd be easy to confuse the registry with a secret book of coded language, approaching android with no android development experience is exactly the same. Windows don't make it easy for the 'common person' to understand because these things are open to tampering and security flaws.
The same goes for android, rooting and unlocking the bootloader. If you're not careful you can get stung (I've 'broke' my Windows system many times by simple stupid things), but if you read up and take some time to understand there is no secret to it.
Er...
First: The rooting of the Z2 tablet is not complicated. It consists of just flashing SuperSU via CWM. Very easy.
A bit more complicated (but not really) is getting CWM on the tablet.
The most complicated part is the unlocking of the bootloader. And this is a Sony thing.
So to say "rooting is complicated" is in fact wrong.
Second: Rooting a device is something that brings certain problems and security dangers. A rooted device must be handled with a certain care and awareness. So it's absolutely ok that only people who are willing to invest a certain amount of brain power and time are able to root.
No one wants more noobs who flood forums with complaints why their rooted phones don't work anymore ore were hacked!
Ricky and Hasenbein: You got me a bit wrong... (But if I write late at night, it might be easy getting me wrong. )
You both know how rooting is done, I know. Unrooted Android devices are just like cars you're not allowed to open the hood or even the trunk; short: unbearable.
I am a former software developer, and a professional technical writer and perception psychologist - maybe this helps you a bit understanding my points of view.
First: I really don't like calling novices "noobs". The term "noob" has a negative connotation, it's a typical four-letter-word, a cuss word. Thus "newbies" are quite reluctant asking for vital information - just because they don't want to be called a noob. So they don't ask - and then brick their devices. Just see this thread as a real-world example.
We all were "noobs" at the beginning.
But we read and read, spent lots of hours with the topic, we tried and failed and sweared till we finally succeeded. Or not.
So we walked quite some miles. Because we had sufficient time and commitment for doing so. And because we already had a bunch of experience with other devices up our sleeves. So we're part of a quite small group of people having the needed background knowledge.
Others don't.
Shouldn't we help them a bit ? If we do, more users could enjoy the benefits of a rooted device - without having to ask "noobish" questions or bricking their devices, forcing them to ask more "noobish" questions - and shining a bad light on rooting: "Rooting is dangerous".
No, it is not. If people exactly know what they have to do, and what to avoid.
So why don't we tell them ? - Using a language everybody can understand.
Result: More root users = less "noobish" questions = less bricked devices = less fear of rooting.
And: More root users = more money donations for developers = more incentives for developers = more and better root applications, faster development.
It's simple.
Ok, we took the long way, we had to gather information without any greater help, we put much effort into this. It's just natural we expect others doing the same: We had to work for it, so they should work for it, too. A plain normal human attitude.
But a bit selfish, don't you agree ?
Some months ago, I bought a Nexus 7 2013, needed a quick way of rooting the device because I left for a longer Asia vacation right the next day, filled with blogging activities. So I really needed a fast solution. I found a kind of all-in-one package, a "Nexus root toolkit" (or similar), don't remember who did it.
Perfect one ! A kind of menu with buttons to click: "Click here for checking device communication", "Click here for installing missing drivers", "Click here for unlocking the bootloader", "Click here to root", "Click here to unroot", "Click here for locking the bootloader again", "Click here if your device does not respond/boot anymore", "Click here to restore factory state".
Step by step, every step explained, every step to be done by just clicking a button. A package for "noobs". And for people needing a fast solution.
And working perfectly: Just everybody would be able to root his device, "noob" or expert.
THIS is the way it should be, a sound way for improving device usage for many, many users. And for showing manufacturers: "Hey, we're no minority anymore, so stop trying to lock us out if you want to sell in the future !" I just think of Samsung; with an ugly feeling in my guts. They're getting worse than Apple. BECAUSE root is just done by a minority they can easily choose to ignore. And it will be getting worse.
Take Sony as an example: Sure they support rooting the Z2 a bit, but they don't support unlocking the Z2's bootloader without losing DRM keys and X-Reality. A BIG turnoff. I just don't want to lose X-Reality because it's one of the very, very few video enhancements which really work.
But if more users were interested in rooting, Sony would be urged to provide a better solution. Not necessary at present: No greater demand - no greater effort.
Because rooting is still too complicated for the masses.
So: Shouldn't we try making all that things a bit more simple ? Like I saw with the "Nexus root toolkit" or whatever it was called ?
If we help others, we help ourselves at the same time: Mutual beneficial.
If we don't, we'll lose more and more of the ancient Android freedom because manufacturers will ignore our needs more and more.
That's why I wish to suggest trying to find some easier ways.
What I could do: I am a writer; I could provide simple explanations and instructions, I could also translate English documents into German.
What about you ?
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Because rooting is still too complicated for the masses.
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I repeat: Rooting is nothing that should be "for the masses".
Rooting should remain something for really interested users who really spend time with understanding, maintaining and modifying their devices because only such people can cope to the necessary extent with the special requirements of a rooted device.
In this respect the politics of the manufacturers (enable a root possibility, but make it quite diffcult) is exactly right.
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I repeat: Rooting is nothing that should be "for the masses".
Rooting should remain something for really interested users who really spend time with understanding, maintaining and modifying their devices because only such people can cope to the necessary extent with the special requirements of a rooted device.
In this respect the politics of the manufacturers (enable a root possibility, but make it quite diffcult) is exactly right.
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Just a couple of decades ago, computers were "something for really interested users who really spend time with understanding, maintaining and modifying their devices".
How does it look like today ? I'd been one of the pioneers of that times; you read about me in the news, maybe even saw the (horrible) movie.
But we shared our findings instead of hiding them deep in our bag of secrets, labelled "for experts only".
Rooting is a GOOD thing. So why don't make it easier and safer for everybody ?
Hello everyone, I'm Matt and I have been learning Android (java) on my own for the past few years. I had no prior programming experience, or even a clue of what went behind it all. One year, an interest sparked in computers and mainly Android which resulted in me pursuing app development as a hobby.
I want to share the results of my tinkering/learning of Android with XDA. There is still much to learn, and I plan on improving all of my apps. Learning by myself (and the internet of course) has been a long bumpy road, no doubt. For those of you who are interested in app development, do not lose faith and maintain your determination.
My Device
A handy app that shows detailed information about your Android device
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=high.caliber.productions.my_device
Math Cards +
Simple math problems
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=high.caliber.productions.mathcards_plus
All-in-one Soundboard
Many sounds at the touch of a button
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=high.caliber.productions.all_in_one_soundboard
Stupid Laws
Some ridiculous Laws in the U.S.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=high.caliber.productions.stupid_laws
What About Root
An app that explains what the term root is o Android Device, and the pros and cons of it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=high.caliber.productions.root
Please keep in mind that most of these were a learning experience for me. I welcome and encourage all feedback here. I will add apps as I make more. Thank you for reading, enjoy!
What are the rules about using one of your custom roms on the Amazon Kindle Fire HDX to sell on the internet? Not asking as a business or trying to make a profit off your work, just want to unload some devices. Thanks for all your hard work. I have benefited knowledge wise, greatly for many years. Perhaps there aren't any clear rules. I'd like to know how you feel about using your roms as I want to do what's right. I feel your roms make these devices much much better for the user. Title should have been for developers and others. Anyone who wants to comment, please do.
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What are the rules about using one of your custom roms on the Amazon Kindle Fire HDX to sell on the internet? Not asking as a business or trying to make a profit off your work, just want to unload some devices. Thanks for all your hard work. I have benefited knowledge wise, greatly for many years. Perhaps there aren't any clear rules. I'd like to know how you feel about using your roms as I want to do what's right. I feel your roms make these devices much much better for the user. Title should have been for developers and others. Anyone who wants to comment, please do.
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Thoughts: should not be an issue provided you are selling personal devices that happen to come with a custom ROM. Keep in mind the recipient may not share your opinion on the benefits of a non-stock UX. I am always a bit taken back by how rattled some folks get it when the presentation doesn't match the glossy.