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Pro-throttle here! Stop bogging down my network
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Considering that throttling is only encouraging users to find work arounds and quadruple their data consumption in retaliation/effort to up the 5%, I'd have to say I would be against it...
And if my 2gb of data is congesting the network...I would say ATT has got some pretty serious issues to work on.
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Pro-throttle here! Stop bogging down my network
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I would rather they do away with the tiered data and bring back unlimited. Then they could offer tiered throttling plans. 50 bucks for unlimited data with throttled after 5gb.
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I would rather they do away with the tiered data and bring back unlimited. Then they could offer tiered throttling plans. 50 bucks for unlimited data with throttled after 5gb.
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Unlimited is Unlimited! This is robbery! AT&T made this deal with its customers and now they wanna cheat them! It isn't fair. I know that life isn't fair but if you can't cheat them and skip paying for a few months then they should have to live up to their end as well! I pay for the 4GB/tethering plan but I still think that AT&T should cut the BS out and give these people the service that they deserve!
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Pro-throttle here! Stop bogging down my network
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That's not the point. The point is AT&T is breaking contract they signed with Unlimited data users. Some being throttled at 1GB. It's not right.
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That's not the point. The point is AT&T is breaking contract they signed with Unlimited data users. Some being throttled at 1GB. It's not right.
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Actually, no, it's still unlimited. They're not cutting off customers. Throttling at 1g, however, is pretty asinine. I've heard of 1.5-2g, which IMO is pretty reasonable. I don't stream nonsense to my phone, but I have all of my email, google sync, app updates etc etc all going to my phone and I use maybe 600m/month on average.
Back to the point of the second poster, I have to agree, a lot of this is because of assholes who eat 10-20-30+ gigs a month tethering. I'd have to be they're the .5% of the users or smaller, yet using most of the bandwidth. So this is how companies compensate.
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Cisco Ironport shows the above site to be blocked due to malware, please clean/straighten it up for access.
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Interesting. I accessed it from my work computer just fine and where I work the security is tight.
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i got a message saying i was in the top 5% so i checked my data and i was at 2gigs you got to be kidding me
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Actually, no, it's still unlimited. They're not cutting off customers. Throttling at 1g, however, is pretty asinine. I've heard of 1.5-2g, which IMO is pretty reasonable. I don't stream nonsense to my phone, but I have all of my email, google sync, app updates etc etc all going to my phone and I use maybe 600m/month on average.
Back to the point of the second poster, I have to agree, a lot of this is because of assholes who eat 10-20-30+ gigs a month tethering. I'd have to be they're the .5% of the users or smaller, yet using most of the bandwidth. So this is how companies compensate.
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Yes. 30GB is excessive but the percentage of those is less than the guy who may use 4-5GB (which is reasonable) and is being throttled at 1-2GB.
If they want to throttle then the Bernstein should be refined. Packages should be sold as someone else suggested. $30 unlimited 3GB throttle. $50 unlimited 5GB throttle. And so on.
Just my. 02, agree or not that's how I see it.
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Since they are going to throttle us, why is it at 2gb? The 3gb tiered data plan is the same 30.00 price as our alleged unlimited plans.
At least start the throttling at 3gb! This is madness to me since they continue to advertise theze great network speeds, yet there are places in the US that don't have 3g let alone 4g. Theo.my reason they keep speeding.g up the network is because it gets the tiered plan holders closer to their limit even faster so the can charge more.
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Since they are going to throttle us, why is it at 2gb? The 3gb tiered data plan is the same 30.00 price as our alleged unlimited plans.
At least start the throttling at 3gb! This is madness to me since they continue to advertise theze great network speeds, yet there are places in the US that don't have 3g let alone 4g. Theo.my reason they keep speeding.g up the network is because it gets the tiered plan holders closer to their limit even faster so the can charge more.
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Because 3GB data plan was just in effect in about a month. Most who signed up for 3GB probably haven't see their first bill yet.
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Well after reading this....http://phandroid.com/2011/07/19/dan-hesse-expect-big-announcements-from-sprint-about-4g-this-fall/
I'm pretty sure that the area that I am in will not be getting 4G service any time soon. TMobile is the only one who currently offers 4G in my area. That being said, since I will not be using the 4G service for a good while is there anyway that we can have the premium data charge removed from our bill? Or has anyone ever got it removed?
From what I remember we can't get it removed. What if you went on vacation and ended up in a 4G area. I'm sure you would use the 4G connectivity.
Its a "premium data plan" now, they stopped using the "4G access" because people were arguing the validity of it. All smart phones require the $10 add on. There's no way out of it.
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Its a "premium data plan" now, they stopped using the "4G access" because people were arguing the validity of it. All smart phone require the $10 add on. There's no way out of it.
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This.. their 4g has come to a dead halt. I dont even think they are expanding anymore
Yes that and they are not calling it a 4g fee just a generic smartphone data fee... So unfortunately if you want the phone you have to pay. Still cheaper than big red
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All smart phones on sprint are required to pay that 10 dallor fee now. So, no way out of it
not sure why you call it a evo or 4g tax, the premium data charge is for all smartphone devices 3g or 4g. if the $10 fee is to keep our data unlimited them im happy to pay it, and its still cheaper that vz or att. so im happy with that. so... no sprint wont take away the addon charge
I remember back when the Evo came out after I had got my Heroc that people called it the Evo tax. Ah well, I may go to DC or Raleigh and be able to use it. Just wanted to check. Thanks all....
And yeah, it is still cheper than VZW....
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not sure why you call it a evo or 4g tax, the premium data charge is for all smartphone devices 3g or 4g. if the $10 fee is to keep our data unlimited them im happy to pay it, and its still cheaper that vz or att. so im happy with that. so... no sprint wont take away the addon charge
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Last year it was a premium data fee only on 4G phones.
This.. their 4g has come to a dead halt. I dont even think they are expanding anymore
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Yeah, I think the LTE thing has a lot to do with that...though, I don't know what the hell they expect LTE to do when WiMax is a far superior protocol as far as I am concerned. I'm sure their engineers are well aware of Sprint/Clear's worst-in-show frequencies and power limits are to blame for the horrible spotty coverage even in "full 4G" areas. Is this super expensive switch to LTE (on crappy frequencies) nothing more than a super-expensive marketing maneuver? I mean, srsly...Similar or worse protocol on the same horrible frequencies aren't going to change anything, or even make it perform worse.
4G is still rolling out slowly, just got it in my town, sprint reps didn't know anything about it. Just tried it a few weeks ago and to my surprise 5Mbps down, and 1.7 up.
Try an app in the market called "sensorly" it will show where 4G is before sprint will acknowledge it. Be sure to follow the setup for sprint and then 4G maps.
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That or just look at Clearwire's website. I have 4G coverage where I live and in some spots here in OKC, but Sprint has said nothing about it.
The 10 dollar/month fee is to keep "true unlimited data" on any smartphone according to Sprint.. and with my usage this is still cheaper than using the "death star" or "vzw" but YMMV
Yeah, that fee is also applied to the blackberry phones.
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From what I remember we can't get it removed. What if you went on vacation and ended up in a 4G area. I'm sure you would use the 4G connectivity.
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probably not, i'd be vacationing.
besides, if i promised to disable my 4g i'd take that damn 10bucks off a month. They dont have 4g in this podunk town i live in for the next year.
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probably not, i'd be vacationing.
besides, if i promised to disable my 4g i'd take that damn 10bucks off a month. They dont have 4g in this podunk town i live in for the next year.
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and then you'll only have it outdoors...I'd add a 'lol' at the end, but, I ain't laughin'
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4G is still rolling out slowly, just got it in my town, sprint reps didn't know anything about it. Just tried it a few weeks ago and to my surprise 5Mbps down, and 1.7 up.
Try an app in the market called "sensorly" it will show where 4G is before sprint will acknowledge it. Be sure to follow the setup for sprint and then 4G maps.
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1.7 up? Liar! http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/06/13/sprint-ready-to-bump-4g-upload-speed-cap-will-raise-wi-max-to/
Seriously...I'm almost sickened by done of the posts here. Makes me wonder if Sprint seriously has the most simple customers.
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1.7 up? Liar! http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/06/13/sprint-ready-to-bump-4g-upload-speed-cap-will-raise-wi-max-to/
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Well then it sucks to be me, just got 1437 up, I must have broken phone. Sorry dude...
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It WAS an Evo tax. Here's proof from when I disputed it a while ago. I took these myself. I later realized that if I have to pay an extra $10 a month for my line to keep unlimited data, then so be it. I get close to 2GB. I never go over, but then again this is without Netflix/Pandora/etc, so in the future I might:
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1437 is believeable....but u said. 1.7 which is BS for sure!!!
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In my opinion, I think Sprint should do a 10GB or 5GB data cap before throttling.
Why?
We will NEVER have decent speeds due to thousands of people abusing the "Unlimited"
If there was a cap, the people that are using their phones for home internet and torrenting using well over 30GB of data a month and they got throttled it would help the network A LOT!
Most of us dont even use more than 5 Gigs a month anyways.
The whole unlimited thing just isn't realistic
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In my opinion, I think Sprint should do a 10GB or 5GB data cap before throttling.
Why?
We will NEVER have decent speeds due to thousands of people abusing the "Unlimited"
If there was a cap, the people that are using their phones for home internet and torrenting using well over 30GB of data a month and they got throttled it would help the network A LOT!
Most of us dont even use more than 5 Gigs a month anyways.
The whole unlimited thing just isn't realistic
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I'm actually starting to think the same, I'm tired of having to be dealing with horrible internet speeds due to people who constantly brag about torrenting/downloading/tethering 10GB's+ a month, if they are so desperate they should just pay for home internet.
Yeah, having a data cap of 10Gigs or even 5 wouldnt be a problem. There is NO way we could use that much data unless we are torrenting or doing something ridiculous. Plus, we would have WAY better speeds
10 I'd be ok with 5 not so much
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I Completely Disagree
If you want a data cap go to Verizon and pay for the more decent speeds, If you want to be throttled go to T-Mobile. Sprint is marketing its unlimited data which brings it its customers. I agree that people are using too much but to each his own since they paid for Unlimited
Let the flaming begin
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10 I'd be ok with 5 not so much
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Yeah I could handle 10GB when I was with tmobile i use 5+ in under 2weeks
Now I average 7-11GB
No torrents or teathering
Just YouTube and email/web browsing
My question to the OP and anyone who thinks this is a good idea... "have YOU ever been throttled?
It sucks and I've had it stick for a few months in a row with tmobile... They gave me some nice credits but it was garbage that they couldn't even fix/turn it off when it should be...
Time will come when Sprint will have throttled/tiered data... But not any time this year or first quarter so I'm good (contract ends in June)
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I am going to agree, tiered data plans are the only way we will ever see good speeds. The unlimited can stay but not at current pricing. You are completely right, because the people that abuse it are the ones too cheap to get separate internet plans for home and mobile. They are the ones destroying our speeds. At the same time, some of the problem is sprints network equipment, but when you can do a speed test and see higher upload speeds than download, that is a symptom of capacity, too many people using the download stream at the same time.
I do agree. Capping data would be great because
-It will stop people from using it as their primary connection
-It will make more people go on WiFi when they are at their homes
-People will stop using data like crazy
If they do cap it, it should be reasonable like 3-5GB cap or if you have 2+ people (family plan) 8-10GB cap. This will actually help data speeds a lot. Remember how you got 2000 kb/s that time at 3am in the morning? Data will basically be that fast all the time.
Well I'm a hoger but I also like a cap so it can make me stop using so much even if I try to use a bit I go over so I'm trying to cut back so other can have 3g I do have 4g and lately this month I've been using it more thoe
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or the best way to have fast 3g all of us is sprint to add evdo rev b and advance to it 4g so we can use to but we know sprint is stupid and follow the blue and red haters
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I'm pretty sure it would suck just as bad with a data cap...
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I'm pretty sure it would suck just as bad with a data cap...
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exactly. their slow data has more to due to congestion (in terms of amount of people) than people abusing the unlimited data. remember, every one had unlimited data 1.5 years ago and did not have these speed issues you see on sprint.
Sounds good to me.
But I really wish that USA had a GSM dominated cellular market. HSPA+ is just sooo much better than 3G on Sprint...The one thing I really like about ATT and T-MO.
As long as Sprint continues to offer unconditional unlimited data people will use it to the maximum capacity. That is the nature of anything unlimited. As a result, quality decreases for all.
You should also be taking full advantage of your data, you pay for it and Sprint prides itself on providing it. Think of it as a buffet.
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Sounds good to me.
But I really wish that USA had a GSM dominated cellular market. HSPA+ is just sooo much better than 3G on Sprint...The one thing I really like about ATT and T-MO.
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That n phones could be used anywhere in the world lol
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i have a 30mb connection at my home that i pay for, i still use 20-30gb a month because I'm not home, I'm a truck driver. i vpn to my home network, i netflix, i YouTube. it is against the TOS to torrent but i don't on sprint because i can at home then download the tottered objects through tonido and subsonic.
there is a market for unlimited, i couldn't go to Verizon or att because i can't afford the $300 monthly bill
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My question to the OP and anyone who thinks this is a good idea... "have YOU ever been throttled?
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I was throttled on T-Mobile... I hated it with the passion of a thousand burning suns
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I use Netflix and YouTube and other various streams while I am at work, and when I need a program I download it on my phone and some tethering.... I use well over 8gb a month... and that's just me, there are three people on my plan (who use significantly less) Fastest connection I can get at home is a 768kbps and I'm too far away to use the WiFi on my phone (not that I use my phone at home anyways) but I tether when my sisters decide to rape our house connection. I don't torrent with it but I still use a ton of data.
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I use Netflix and YouTube and other various streams while I am at work, and when I need a program I download it on my phone and some tethering.... I use well over 8gb a month... and that's just me, there are three people on my plan (who use significantly less) Fastest connection I can get at home is a 768kbps and I'm too far away to use the WiFi on my phone (not that I use my phone at home anyways) but I tether when my sisters decide to rape our house connection. I don't torrent with it but I still use a ton of data.
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That's another point why it will suck when and if they throttle...
Netflix cannot be watch let alone youtube... And don't get me started on the lonely nights my girlfriend is out of town and I watch pRon..... It all would be impossible...
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I Completely Disagree
If you want a data cap go to Verizon and pay for the more decent speeds, If you want to be throttled go to T-Mobile. Sprint is marketing its unlimited data which brings it its customers. I agree that people are using too much but to each his own since they paid for Unlimited
Let the flaming begin
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I guess you didnt see the wsj about Sprints unlimited data today? I hope you all don't expect Sprint to still have unlimited data by the end of 2012.
At 2.9 gb for the month. In 3g area I usually get about 1.4 upload on speed test. Now in getting .19 consistently ....
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At 2.9 gb for the month. In 3g area I usually get about 1.4 upload on speed test. Now in getting .19 consistently ....
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You had probally reached your data plan limit, now you are running in a lower donwload speeds. Thanks
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Have grandfathered unlimited data plan so. I couldn't have reached limit on plan
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I have grandfathered unlimited data as well. I have not noticed this and I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
I am curious if they ever do throttle grandfathered unlimited data users.
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...I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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I have grandfathered unlimited data as well. I have not noticed this and I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
I am curious if they ever do throttle grandfathered unlimited data users.
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Me too... At work streaming pandora & at home playing FPS games & downloading videos, movies... lol I dont use that much though... damn
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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No, they went to tiered data so they can bill the end user for more money while instilling the belief that people are using too much data and they can't support it.
It reminds me of the early 80s when the gas prices climbed to .75¢ a gallon and the gloom and doom prophets said the outrageous price increase was because of a limited supply, and the world would be completely devoid of fossil fuels by...wait for it...1987. Now, I have looked around, and I see that people, nearly 30 years after the world ran out of gas, are still buying the same old BS and paying upwards of $5 a gallon...while the price in Venezuela on Monday was...get this...18¢ a gallon after converting to USD.
So, don't buy the whole limited bandwidth BS. My school has multiple Gigabit connections and probably runs through more data than the average small country because its a super computing node for some high end government cluster. I asked one of the EE professors how close they were to maxing out the fiber optic line coming in and he said "oh, occasionally we will hit half a percent of total capacity".
Moral of the story: they charge you more for tiered data because you will pay it.
Now, calling someone a ****ing moron because you believe the utter BS that a greed filled multinational conglomerate feeds you about why they want to charge you more dollars for less product is somewhat odepian in nature don't you think?
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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Hey, I pay the $30 a month for the wireless tethering even though I know there are ways around it. I always pay my bill on time and I have been a loyal Verizon customer for years... So you bet I'm going to use the crap out of my grandfathered in unlimited data!!! Why would I pay another $100 a month to Verizon for Fios which would just give me what I already have through my phone...? INTERNET ACCESS!!!
While ATT truly throttles their customers based on TOTAL download, VZW's stance as I'm told prior to switching a few days ago, is: If you're on a particular tower and it is congested and you've used over 2 Gigs, your traffic will be "optimized" at a preferable speed to allow other users to use the service. So, they throttle based on tower congestion.. much fairer. If you connect to a different tower, then all the "throttling / optimization" goes away and you should be back to your normal 3g/4g speeds..until you return to the throttled tower.
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Have grandfathered unlimited data plan so. I couldn't have reached limit on plan
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Yep! Unlimited data plans are not that much unlimited. you have probably a caped internet, complain about it. :/
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Good day you used over 300GB and you still get good speed?
Do you drop data and if so does it happen more then 1 time a week?
I would like to know, becuase I have had some isuses and I don't know how/if I can fix it.
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Well I was at about 72GB yesterday and I downloaded a 13GB torrent file and was getting over 1.5MB down... So no I don’t think I was being throttled.
Complete ameture or "noob" as you guys say. Are these razrs simply not meant for 3g? I mean it works, but I had an iphone before and it took no time for a song on pandora to buffer. it takes an eternity on my razr.. Obviously the phone isn't firing on all cylinders in 3g but let's just say Iphone 3g > RAZR 3g. Somebody care to call me out and explain?
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Realize I spelled "amateur" wrong. Trying out swift key today and swype no longer is spelling for me.
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Droped data 3 times today in two places with -69dbm to -86dbm or 3-5 bars. It's really starting to bug me.
Me too, I came into android with the impression that everything was supposed to be more open and free, well I definitely feel tied down when I'm in 5 bars 3g blue lettering, and I start an app and it goes white lettering. It's ridiculous. I didn't understand what Sprint was talking about in those commercials talking about other companies slowing your data down, I fully understand what they mean now. I like android a lot, but this pisses me off.
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Me too, I came into android with the impression that everything was supposed to be more open and free, well I definitely feel tied down when I'm in 5 bars 3g blue lettering, and I start an app and it goes white lettering. It's ridiculous. I didn't understand what Sprint was talking about in those commercials talking about other companies slowing your data down, I fully understand what they mean now. I like android a lot, but this pisses me off.
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I really think this has more to do with your location than a blanket policy. I'm in Boston and the coverage is great here and I never have any of these issues.
You guys are seeing data-dropping and 3G/4G hand-off issues (not throttling). I see this often on the west side of Indianapolis. I spoke to VZW about it today:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/97c770a3e8
I have been reading a lot in to it and I think thats it. It falls inline with what I was told about the phone geting an update. (He said it could very well be ICS too, but that seems unlikely now.)
This is the last thing that I would ever think to go bad with a motorola phone. I could see the GPU or CPU sucking or the FC all over, but I ever would have guessed data droping. Now I am starting to wish I got the 720p HTC phone.
I have a high degree of confidence that the issues will be resolved and that Motorola will remain the best hardware choice going forward on USA CDMA networks.
No surprise really, but still, I won't be renewing my contract.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/16/3024472/verizon-kills-unlimited-data-lte-upgrades
Sure, why should VZW build the network we want when they can just charge what they want!?
Losers!
This is the writing on the wall for me. I'm switching to T-Mobile. GSM works better anyways.
So he says:
"If I can add as many devices as I want and share that data plan, that's a lot more efficient from a family share perspective, from a small business perspective,"
How is this efficient? Maybe I'm not seeing it right, but I dont want to share my data with anyone. If I have someone on my plan that uses a crap load of data, thats taking away from my data use. Maybe it's good for Verizon because that would mean I would need to purchase a higher data plan. But that sucks for me, the customer.
That's why they worded it that way.
It does make sense for the guy that has an iPad, smartphone, data for portable computing. However, that assumes that I don't want unlimited data... It's like Comcast capping data from home.
Standard procedure at Big Red. It's like they are edging Unlimited users closer and closer to the end of a cliff and into tiers. But eventually =
What's contributing to the uncertainty is some of the phrasing of Verizon CFO Fran Shammo's statements yesterday, particularly the moment when he said flat out: "Everyone will be on data share."
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-CNET article
My dad wants to finally get a smartphone and he said I could buy the subsidized phone. He'd take my DX2 bc he doesn't care about the latest and greatest. I only question and worry if he'll be stuck signed into the 2gb of data tier just days before they come out with something potentially better with the new plans.
Don't worry, Verizon will always let you sign up for an extension on a new plan at a higher rate.
I would switch to a a different provider. There's no end to the nonsense until they squeeze every last dollar out of you. They report to share holders not customers... They got that part clear.
Verzon clarified this. It's only if you buy a subsidized device.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ing-if-you-buy-a-4g-phone-this-summer-onward/
So pull $500+ out of your behind and you're good to go.
The promise of smart phones is over. Back to the days of SMS and voice. IPhone was just a flash in the pan..........
Larry94 said:
Verzon clarified this. It's only if you buy a subsidized device.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ing-if-you-buy-a-4g-phone-this-summer-onward/
So pull $500+ out of your behind and you're good to go.
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Who the heck is not going to want to upgrade to 4G anyways? This was a great plan on Verizon's part. Touche dickheads
Come over to the dark side...
thelowend said:
Who the heck is not going to want to upgrade to 4G anyways? This was a great plan on Verizon's part. Touche dickheads
Come over to the dark side...
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My wallet doesn't want to upgrade to 4G >__>
CarlosBattousai said:
My wallet doesn't want to upgrade to 4G >__>
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I **** you not, when I looked at the data plans, my back right pocket began to hurt like hell.
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Amazing. First, they take away the "new every two".
Next, they charge you $30 for your free upgrades (not free any more, jerks).
Now this? And, if you WANT to keep it, you have to pay the full price for your new phone?
Verizon is doing EVERYTHING in their power to drive their customers away. I may have to take a look at Sprint. Someone at my work has it and they have a total of 5 phones and a shared, unlimited data plan and it's $130 a month + tax. Wow! I've paying MORE than that for 4 lines and only I have the unlimited data plan.
I just don't know what the coverage is of Sprint, though and what Android phones they offer.
Even though they blow chunks as a company, the coverage is still hard to beat. Guess you have to pick your poison
Well, now with Motorola now coming out officially and stating that the X2 will stay on 2.3 and NOT get ICS, I'm pretty much done with Verizon AND Motorola.
Sprint has an truly unlimited data plan (no throttling) AND they have an unlimited FAMILY data plan, unlike Verizon which appears to be giving a LIMITED shared plan.
Here's the link to the Motorola Android Software Upgrade page stating that the X2 will stay on 2.3:
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
I figured this was going to happen, so it's not that much of a shock as the Verizon announcements have been.
I don't understand the hate towards Verizon. How many people with unlimited plans were actually using 4+ GB/month in order to warrant the unlimited plan in the first place? My guess is less than 5% of all customers do this and actually needed unlimited data.
Now Verizon nerfs the unlimited plan and people get pissed? I hate to be the devils' advocate but it is a good move on their part. The vast majority of users don't even use anywhere near 2 GB/month (I know I don't, and nobody I know has even come close to that cap) so why keep an unneeded plan around?
I personally use well over 5gb of data... and I use that in less than 2 weeks... long as I'm on prepaid think ill be good on my data.
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Omega360 said:
I don't understand the hate towards Verizon. How many people with unlimited plans were actually using 4+ GB/month in order to warrant the unlimited plan in the first place? My guess is less than 5% of all customers do this and actually needed unlimited data.
Now Verizon nerfs the unlimited plan and people get pissed? I hate to be the devils' advocate but it is a good move on their part. The vast majority of users don't even use anywhere near 2 GB/month (I know I don't, and nobody I know has even come close to that cap) so why keep an unneeded plan around?
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It's not the actual data cap that ticks us off. It's the fact that they are going to milk their customers for everything it's worth...
Getting new customers is one thing, but those who are grandfathered is a low blow to those who stayed with Verizon when they eliminated unlimited plans.
I'm looking for the actual contract text, not someone's summary. This is because someone said that even unlimited data was capped at 5gb and that this fact was well known. The agreement I've found here only says that " if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand." I can't find the 5gb number anywhere. That was updated in February, so that may be why. I joined Verizon after unlimited was ended for new subs, so I can't look at mine. Thanks.
There are people here that use 10-20GB+... was even one person that had a little over 1TB of data used...
It's not capped at 5GB, the 5GB number was for tethering if you paid the extra $30 for the tethering application.
mjones73 said:
It's not capped at 5GB, the 5GB number was for tethering if you paid the extra $30 for the tethering application.
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No in the contract it says if u use over 5GB they CAN terminate you contract. Apparently they don't but the can
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carngeX said:
There are people here that use 10-20GB+... was even one person that had a little over 1TB of data used...
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I know that, that's actually why I'm looking for this. I think unlimited is unlimited and these people are not abusing anything. (I'm not saying VZW ending unlimited is wrong, just the justification they gave, namely abuse and network congestion [since they throttle the heavy users during that time anyway])
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It's not capped at 5GB, the 5GB number was for tethering if you paid the extra $30 for the tethering application.
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That would make sense as well, though that's an awfully low number. What's the point of tethering if that's all you can get?
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No in the contract it says if u use over 5GB they CAN terminate you contract. Apparently they don't but the can
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Can you link to the contract? Or scan one, or send a pdf? I'd like to actually see that instead of someone just telling me. Because someone else saying "no it doesn't" is just as valid an argument.
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I'm looking for the actual contract text, not someone's summary. This is because someone said that even unlimited data was capped at 5gb and that this fact was well known. The agreement I've found here only says that " if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand." I can't find the 5gb number anywhere. That was updated in February, so that may be why. I joined Verizon after unlimited was ended for new subs, so I can't look at mine. Thanks.
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There is no set number for unlimited data. That 5 gb is just an arbitrary number people have been throwing around here for a long time as to what was the top 5% number Verizon would use to slow down your data speed. I've exceeded it without any problems many times as have many others so its baseless.
I may have my receipt with the contract on it in the box for my Rezound, I'll see what I can come up with.
kzoodroid said:
There is no set number for unlimited data. That 5 gb is just an arbitrary number people have been throwing around here for a long time as to what was the top 5% number Verizon would use to slow down your data speed. I've exceeded it without any problems many times as have many others so its baseless.
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That's what I thought, but had no proof. I just get tired of people criticizing other people for using their bandwidth as much as they want. And, as it turns out, Verizon shouldn't've even been able to stop them from tethering, according to the FCC. I just wish Verizon would come out and say "we think we can make more money by ending unlimited data, so that's what we're doing". They won't, but I wish they would.
kzoodroid said:
There is no set number for unlimited data. That 5 gb is just an arbitrary number people have been throwing around here for a long time as to what was the top 5% number Verizon would use to slow down your data speed. I've exceeded it without any problems many times as have many others so its baseless.
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It was on Verizon's website it said if you have an unlimited plan you cant use it excessively. Excessive things include streaming video and downloading large files etc. If you use over 5 GB in a month you are using excessive amounts of data and your account can be terminated at our descretion basically. I read that from the Verizon website awhile ago, so its not arbitrary
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Interesting thread
*popcorngif*
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AshtonTS said:
It was on Verizon's website it said if you have an unlimited plan you cant use it excessively. Excessive things include streaming video and downloading large files etc. If you use over 5 GB in a month you are using excessive amounts of data and your account can be terminated at our descretion basically. I read that from the Verizon website awhile ago, so its not arbitrary
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This is an message my sister has been getting yesterday and today. She had been watching the Olympics at work. We have "unlimited data" on 3 lines.
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Idk if Its there anymore that was a while ago...
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I'm constantly over 10 GB worth of data per month. Last month was like 16+. Can they really terminate you for "excessive" use? Better start using WiFi more lol got spoiled with unlimited data.
zac41189 said:
I'm constantly over 10 GB worth of data per month. Last month was like 16+. Can they really terminate you for "excessive" use? Better start using WiFi more lol got spoiled with unlimited data.
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I guess they could but they haven't done it at all yet. Maybe in a year or so they'll do that to get rid of unlimited data forever tho
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rodalcaraz827 said:
This is an message my sister has been getting yesterday and today. She had been watching the Olympics at work. We have "unlimited data" on 3 lines.
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That looks like a feature of the ROM, you can change the limit, or just leave it alone. It's designed for people with an actual cap to avoid overages.
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AshtonTS said:
I guess they could but they haven't done it at all yet. Maybe in a year or so they'll do that to get rid of unlimited data forever tho
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You know I've been worried about that ever since they got rid of truely unlimited and went to data packages. They better not do away with the grandfathered in plans. Wouldn't be surprised if they did tho.
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That looks like a feature of the ROM, you can change the limit, or just leave it alone. It's designed for people with an actual cap to avoid overages.
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She is running the stock ICS OTA for her Droid Raze MAXX. I'll look to see if there is an option to disable this feature when I get home from work. Otherwise Verizon will be getting a phone call from me. from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
AshtonTS said:
Idk if Its there anymore that was a while ago...
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AshtonTS said:
I guess they could but they haven't done it at all yet. Maybe in a year or so they'll do that to get rid of unlimited data forever tho
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So far I haven't seen anything beyond hearsay that there was an actual limit to unlimited.
But if there was, that's crap. A company shouldn't be allowed to call it unlimited if it's got a limit. That seems like a truth-in-advertising issue.
And by the way, if streaming video is excessive, why did they get the rights to NFL mobile whose main draw is streaming video? It's just disingenuous to advertise something if you're not going to allow people to use it.
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unlimited doesnt mean its capped at 5g. but in the older contracts they defined "unlimited data" as 5gb