This May be a noob question but I'm a little afraid of rooting my amaze and hard brickin it, just happened to my old atrix, so my question is...have u know about any hard brick amaze?
Thx.
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Yes its possible to hard brick it. Every android can be hard bricked
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But since we don't have s-off you can't flash the hboot. Haven't seen a single claim to a hard brick on the amaze forums yet..
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So let me get this straight, if we never get s-off there's not much chance that we'll be able to brick? This is my first phone running Android, and I've tried out four ROMs and I'm loving it. Now, if I can't really brick my phone without S-off, I feel a lot more comfortable.
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So let me get this straight, if we never get s-off there's not much chance that we'll be able to brick? This is my first phone running Android, and I've tried out four ROMs and I'm loving it. Now, if I can't really brick my phone without S-off, I feel a lot more comfortable.
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Yeah just have fun...
Hey... what roms do you like... I just flashed my first one... 4th sesnse or something.. seems ok..
Preaak said:
Yeah just have fun...
Hey... what roms do you like... I just flashed my first one... 4th sesnse or something.. seems ok..
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Energy is my favorite and best on battery for me.
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right now it's 99.999 percent impossible, but if s-off is achieved there's the possibility...I've been on this forum since this phone came out, and have not heard of a single hardbrick...
hiz99 said:
Yes its possible to hard brick it. Every android can be hard bricked
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you sir, are wrong... since we don't have s-off, we can't hard brick, it's that simple...
also, that's why htc said they are willing to help us unlock our phones, but not achieve s-off, cuz then people who don't know what they are doing might brick their phones and then try to claim a warranty exchange cuz it "broke"
and yet so many people still can't understand why htc won't help us with s-off
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you sir, are wrong... since we don't have s-off, we can't hard brick, it's that simple...
also, that's why htc said they are willing to help us unlock our phones, but not achieve s-off, cuz then people who don't know what they are doing might brick their phones and then try to claim a warranty exchange cuz it "broke"
and yet so many people still can't understand why htc won't help us with s-off
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It's still a possibility to hardbrick its just alot harder. Flashing any nand chip causes wear. Chip goes bad or gets a bad sector you have a brick. Nothing is impossible anytime you flash non official firmware, including kernels, you run a risk.
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Maybe if you completely rewrite the build.prop, you may be able to brick it. I got a warning while editing my build.prop basically saying be careful and I could brick the phone.
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You might brick it. But if you hit in the wall, You will based on my experience. I hit Motorola Atrix when I was angry, and here I go I bought the amaze.
No, because build.prop is in /system, which can be rewritten if corrupted using fastboot/hboot or recovery. As long as the hboot works, you really can't brick. Also, bringing would be unintentionally making the phone useless, which is different from NAND failure.
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Okay I was just wondering if I was one of the unlucky ones to instal the leak gingerbread Rom and my tbolt gets brick.. ..... Has anyone figure it out how to Unbrick tbolt ...just wondering.. if is possible. To Unbrick if it was to happened
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I"m pretty sure it's not possible because the phone resets every three seconds or so.
if there were a solution, it would be posted in the sticky threads in the developers forums.
If it is continuously bootlooping even in recovery, then you are truly fubar. No fix available. No amount of prayer/voodoo/exorcism will raise it from the dead. Donate it to science & send it to jcase. Maybe he can figure out why your phone was affected.
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Like sublimaze said, if it bootloops in recovery there is no known fix at this time but you could help everyone out a lot by going to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098363
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If it is continuously bootlooping even in recovery, then you are truly fubar. No fix available. No amount of prayer/voodoo/exorcism will raise it from the dead. Donate it to science & send it to jcase. Maybe he can figure out why your phone was affected.
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so this may be a silly question but its not possible to do a battery pull and boot right back into the bootloader? perhaps even keep a stock froyo radio on the root of the sd card incase the worst should happen?
I could have sworn the definition of a brick means it's not recoverable.
If you can recover, then it's technically not a brick.
Dnakaman said:
I could have sworn the definition of a brick means it's not recoverable.
If you can recover, then it's technically not a brick.
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It does, or at least did back in my day...
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It does, or at least did back in my day...
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Can I get an AMEN!!!!
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I could have sworn the definition of a brick means it's not recoverable.
If you can recover, then it's technically not a brick.
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I also thought that was the case. hence the word "brick" but if its still booting, why cant anyone figure out how to fix it?
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I also thought that was the case. hence the word "brick" but if its still booting, why cant anyone figure out how to fix it?
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The problem is that the phone reboots every few seconds, apparently not leaving enough time to apply any kind of 'fix'.
There is no fix yet but that thread that was linked to previously would probably be your best bet.
I am by no means new to the rooting world, I have several android phones starting with the moto d1, d2, and an inc. After moving to the thunderbolt I am seeing people are having a lot of issues with rooting and what not else. My question is, is it even safe to root and flash ROMs at this time, or is it better to wait till the issues get worked out?
people who have issues are the ones who do not follow directions.
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I am by no means new to the rooting world, I have several android phones starting with the moto d1, d2, and an inc. After moving to the thunderbolt I am seeing people are having a lot of issues with rooting and what not else. My question is, is it even safe to root and flash ROMs at this time, or is it better to wait till the issues get worked out?
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I have a rooted thunderbolt myself. I am using synergy's nightly Rom and I love it. My phone runs ten times better. I say go ahead and root. Just make sure you follow directions thoroughly.
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Exactly as stated above
I'm curious... Where did you get the idea a lot of people are having issues with rooting?
I'm referring to the talk of posts dedicated to people with bricked and non bricked phones, like at the top of the dev board.
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I'm referring to the talk of posts dedicated to people with bricked and non bricked phones, like at the top of the dev board.
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VERY old news... Nobody has conclusively got to the bottom of that issue. It's currently assumed that HTC used an off-spec eMMC chip in some of the earliest devices. Those tended to fail for some reason with the use of the original GB leak radio. I'm not sure why that thread is still stickied. The other thread relating to that was unstickied like 2 months ago.
Alot of the people I've seen that did get stuck in that boot loop, which was being called bricked, was resolved by simply flashing a different radio. I heard of some people actually having bricked devices, but not many. I am fairly new to a lot of this, in comparison to many others, but I have never had a problem that wasn't caused by my own stupidity.
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is it safe,its never safe its wether you want your phone to work or not,radios whete never the cause my first bolt bricked on stock out of the box in ten days,just either grow a set or leave it,if life was safe ypy would live in a box
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Nothing in life is safe. Even breathing will kill you (eventually)
However, I do think more of the newbies that are cautious than the ones that just jump into thinks without thinking or knowing why they are rooting to begin with. So good for you Mr. OP
You will Never Know
I have not rooted my Thunderbolt (yet) but its not because I am afraid I might brick it .. I prefer to read as much as I can about it before diving in head first. I dont know if its "safe" but I do know the success rate is pretty good from what I have read, if you are not the kind to take short cuts.
I say go for it. Just make sure you do your homework first. Life is too short to live with bloatware.
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I have not rooted my Thunderbolt (yet) but its not because I am afraid I might brick it .. I prefer to read as much as I can about it before diving in head first. I dont know if its "safe" but I do know the success rate is pretty good from what I have read, if you are not the kind to take short cuts.
I say go for it. Just make sure you do your homework first. Life is too short to live with bloatware.
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Looks like that's you're first post here! And I like what it has to say! Welcome to the community. Hope you enjoy it!
Exactly, well put, I've been rooted for a Cpl of months now and only boot looped once through my own stupitity. I flash rom's all the time. Root it!!!!
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Alot of the people I've seen that did get stuck in that boot loop, which was being called bricked, was resolved by simply flashing a different radio. I heard of some people actually having bricked devices, but not many. I am fairly new to a lot of this, in comparison to many others, but I have never had a problem that wasn't caused by my own stupidity.
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ok, 1st off i'm used to my Evo4G so i know very little about the Photon...yet. So my question is, right now as it stands, if i get the Photon I can root it & run all the root apps & functions & still have 4G, but from the bits i read, if I unlocked the bootloader as well, Ill lose 4G, can sumone clear this up for me?
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ok, 1st off i'm used to my Evo4G so i know very little about the Photon...yet. So my question is, right now as it stands, if i get the Photon I can root it & run all the root apps & functions & still have 4G, but from the bits i read, if I unlocked the bootloader as well, Ill lose 4G, can sumone clear this up for me?
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You are correct. But you can unlock the bootloader and then lock it back up. So its like this:
Root and Unlock Bootloader
Install CWM
Install one of the only two ROMS we currently have
re-lock bootloader
Install bootstrap recovery
install updates to whichever ROM you want through bootstrap
Enjoy custom ROM with locked bootloader and 4g love
It is really just an extra step until we get the kernel source code. This is an absolute great phone and we have great people in this forum to help you out. There are quite a few guides on how to do all of this, if you want to PM me I can help you one on one get it done if need be. Other than that, hope to see you around these parts
-DJ
So could i just wait for an easier method or do you not think there will be one
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Addictedtothegreenguy said:
So could i just wait for an easier method or do you not think there will be one
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I don't know, I find it pretty easy to do, and I'm not very good at adb stuff. I believe there is a one click root tool also and it only takes like 3 minutes to unlock the bootloader.
So I think the whole thing is pretty easy myself. Up to you really.
-DJ
One thing I want to ask.
This is what is keeping me from even rooting. how do I unroot? In case I return this phone?
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hayabusa1300cc said:
One thing I want to ask.
This is what is keeping me from even rooting. how do I unroot? In case I return this phone?
.: sent from Planet Photon:.
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Just flash the original sbf file through rsd lite.
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You are correct. But you can unlock the bootloader and then lock it back up. So its like this:
Root and Unlock Bootloader
Install CWM
Install one of the only two ROMS we currently have
re-lock bootloader
Install bootstrap recovery
install updates to whichever ROM you want through bootstrap
Enjoy custom ROM with locked bootloader and 4g love
It is really just an extra step until we get the kernel source code. This is an absolute great phone and we have great people in this forum to help you out. There are quite a few guides on how to do all of this, if you want to PM me I can help you one on one get it done if need be. Other than that, hope to see you around these parts
-DJ
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Thanks man, really appreciate it. I been wanting to get one & try see how i like it but i'm so used to being fully rooted, unlocked bootloader & all & running custom roms & didn't know much about it yet so I was unsure & that played a big part. But again, thanks alot!
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I don't know, I find it pretty easy to do, and I'm not very good at adb stuff. I believe there is a one click root tool also and it only takes like 3 minutes to unlock the bootloader.
So I think the whole thing is pretty easy myself. Up to you really.
-DJ
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I just dont want to bork my phone ive had pretty good luck with my Og evo, epic, nexus s, and E3D this just seems a bit more scary never had to deal with a bootstrap
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Addictedtothegreenguy said:
I just dont want to bork my phone ive had pretty good luck with my Og evo, epic, nexus s, and E3D this just seems a bit more scary never had to deal with a bootstrap
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I had an ogEvo as well and new to the whole bootstrap but most of this stuff just sounds complex. Really isn't a huge deal once you get your feet wet. I had the same reservations when getting the ogEVO but over time ended up doing about everything to it. Never borked it once.
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I just dont want to bork my phone ive had pretty good luck with my Og evo, epic, nexus s, and E3D this just seems a bit more scary never had to deal with a bootstrap
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Yea, it really isn't that bad, a bootstrap is more harmless than a real recovery actually. Its just like installing an app from the market really.
And on the borking the android phones. I think this is extremely hard to do because I had an OgEvo and I don't think I could have bricked that if I tried. I think Android is some of the most user friendliest software out there in my opinion. I even thought I bricked my Photon the other day, but I didn't, you always just find out it's user error 99% of the time!
At least for me it is. lol
As for the root/unlock process with the photon, I think it is very easy once you run through it a couple times. I may make a video so people aren't so scared to try it out.
-DJ
I always hear the warnings "rooting can brick your phone" but I was wondering how many have reported truly "Bricking" their phones trying to root?? I have a new GS2 and naturally a bit reluctant to root since it will void my warranty, but I am not a stranger to modding, I had a LG VU and with the help of guys from the LGVU forum I totally modded that phone to do be either a iPhone, Android or Storm looking/acting phone.. It took replacing system files and so on but I always backed up the originals so after 2 years of modding I was able to get the phone back to it factory state easily... The only "Bricking" resulted with LG VU members was due to having little tech sense or reading instructions on the correct procedures when modding..
That said, I felt the risk with the VU was minimal since I purchased it on ebay so there wasn't a warranty issue and more importantly it would have only cost me $100-150 to replace compared to this $500+ phone
My main reason for rooting is to get rid of the AT&T bloat and increase my battery life, a very knowledgeable member from the AT&T forum is also a Senior member/adviser here at XDA and reported increasing his battery life BIGTIME after rooting and making some changes post root.. TIA
If you do it perfectly, back up things you have to and flash kernels safely and absolutely by-the-book, nothing SHOULD happen. I've bricked an old GalaxyS1 by flashing a kernel but if you be extra careful and only get kernels that have been tested and generally, not f**k around, you'll be safe.
READ, READ, and READ some more. The best way to determine if something is safe or not is to really understand *what* you're doing.
What is "rooting" actually doing to your phone? How is it doing it? Answer that and you'll know if it's safe or not.
Spoiler Alert: If you don't do anything stupid, and aren't unlucky, it's perfectly safe.
its actually kinda hard to brick these phones by just attempting to root it. As long as you stay away from bootloaders, you'll be fine.
Buy a jig and go wild.
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nyydynasty said:
its actually kinda hard to brick these phones by just attempting to root it. As long as you stay away from bootloaders, you'll be fine.
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Yup, the most important thing is:
Do NOT flash anything meant for the I9100. If the package includes bootloaders (many do), it will likely hose your device. Similarly, don't flash the UCKJ1 leak unless designgears has put up a "bootloader-free" version. While it won't brick you, it does eliminate the ability to use a jig to reset your "custom binary count" counter.
Other than that - anything linked to from the first post of a thread in the dev forum should be safe. (although some stuff, such as netchip's kernels, will result in you getting some experience with un-hosing your device with Odin/Heimdall.)
It's next to impossible to brick most Samsung phones, including ours, unless you mess with bootloaders. If you see the files boot.bin or Sbl.bin in a flash package, be VERY wary.
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Yup, the most important thing is:
Do NOT flash anything meant for the I9100. If the package includes bootloaders (many do), it will likely hose your device. Similarly, don't flash the UCKJ1 leak unless designgears has put up a "bootloader-free"
It's next to impossible to brick most Samsung phones, including ours, unless you mess with bootloaders. If you see the files boot.bin or Sbl.bin in a flash package, be VERY wary.
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thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
Captpt said:
thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-101-bootloaders-20110527/
info about bootloaders
Captpt said:
thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
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Rooting itself alone won't do anything.
A more aggressive debloating than what AT&T lets you do likely will.
Can't anything be fixed with Odin?
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seh6183 said:
Can't anything be fixed with Odin?
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anything, like what?
nyydynasty said:
anything, like what?
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Literally flashing a rom from another device with a different bootloader. Can't Odin just completely reflash all stock stuff?
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seh6183 said:
Literally flashing a rom from another device with a different bootloader. Can't Odin just completely reflash all stock stuff?
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The bootloader is the phone side of download mode. Break it, you break Odin.
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The bootloader is the phone side of download mode. Break it, you break Odin.
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Scary stuff.
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Scary stuff.
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It is along with being all greek at the moment... lots to read and research before doing anything..
As someone who just rooted his sg2 (which I got after getting rid of my iPhone this week), and as someone who had never used an android device previously, rooting was easy as pie.
And by that I mean things will turn out great if you take your time, chose a flavor (research), and follow the recipe (instructions).
I rooted and installed a ROM today. No issues at all. Just don't rush things and be sure to research.
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It is along with being all greek at the moment... lots to read and research before doing anything..
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Its not that hard to actually do the rooting and installing of custom roms. Once you get the hang of it, its nothing. The scary thing is that it becomes so easy that you could easily make a mistake and flash a corrupted bootloader and have a big problem on your hands.
Its almost too easy.
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I am very new to this, but my Droid DNA, that i just got, is giving me troubles with unlocking the bootloader. I am used to samsungs, and HTC's are confusing to me... I just rooted my uncles HTC One S, and that was pretty simple, but this is still mind boggling to me. If you know how to fix this, please PM me. I have tried the SuperCID app, and it doesnt change my MEID, and HTCDev wont work until I unlock the Verizon Bootloader. I've tried HTCDev, but i keep getting the error code 160, MID Not Allowed. Please help me. thank you for any advice you may have.
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I am very new to this, but my Droid DNA, that i just got, is giving me troubles with unlocking the bootloader. I am used to samsungs, and HTC's are confusing to me... I just rooted my uncles HTC One S, and that was pretty simple, but this is still mind boggling to me. If you know how to fix this, please PM me. I have tried the SuperCID app, and it doesnt change my MEID, and HTCDev wont work until I unlock the Verizon Bootloader. I've tried HTCDev, but i keep getting the error code 160, MID Not Allowed. Please help me. thank you for any advice you may have.
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If you just bought the phone and it has the newest update, you can't unlock or root. There is no method for the new firmware.
smh... doesn't anybody read anymore? I thought it was normal to gather information before diving in to Unlock bootloaders... Guess not.
Sorry to be so harsh but there are a ton of threads here that would have let you know this is not possible
Well, i have been "doing my homework" on this, and i can assure you that i didnt just dive right in, i looked into it and have looked into every possible way to slove my matters, but as you can see, i havent and thats why i am here.
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I bought it about a month or two ago, and it asked me recently if i wanted to update, but i keep saying no and i finally just turned the notifications off for it
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Well, i have been "doing my homework" on this, and i can assure you that i didnt just dive right in, i looked into it and have looked into every possible way to slove my matters, but as you can see, i havent and thats why i am here.
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Look at your software version. If its 2.04/06 your fked
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Its a 2 06, is there a way to downgrade the system? Or even just run a cmd to bypass the verizin bootlock? Ive tried the SuperCID app for this, but it seems it doesnt keep the new MEDI. And i have no idea why?
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No. SuperCID broke with the 2.04 update. There is no way to downgrade. There is no current alternative.
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Its a 2 06, is there a way to downgrade the system? Or even just run a cmd to bypass the verizin bootlock? Ive tried the SuperCID app for this, but it seems it doesnt keep the new MEDI. And i have no idea why?
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No way to downgrade with stock HBOOT. No way to flash new HB00T.
/system is write protected n bounty thread is over $1000. Think of something clever? Its been tried.
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No way to downgrade with stock HBOOT. No way to flash new HB00T.
/system is write protected n bounty thread is over $1000. Think of something clever? Its been tried.
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" Riff JTAG Box " can flash back to old bootloade hboot 1.33 , i have done it on dozens of updated Dna's