Is there any charging mats out there that will be compatible with TF101?
thanks. sean...
nope unless there is one that charges unmodified lithium ion batteries by induction
also transformer (i think) requires ~12 volts to charge and i don't think power mats can put out that much
it would be so practical it was built in. Imagine charging your phone on your inducted table, no more charging problem again!
sadly to answer the question, i dont think one will exist as the battery is non removeable.
My TouchPads do that elegantly.
I am afraid the TFormer does not have pickup on battery-
So they have projects everywhere that install them. Just need a Palm kit and a induction back plate. It'd thin and you solder it to the battery contacts.
Problem, like said, it only gives 5v USB power which the transformer probably wouldn't use... or so they say.
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player911 said:
So they have projects everywhere that install them. Just need a Palm kit and a induction back plate. It'd thin and you solder it to the battery contacts.
Problem, like said, it only gives 5v USB power which the transformer probably wouldn't use... or so they say.
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Considering that Lipo cells are 4.2v max, and the 7.4v Lipo actually contains 2 3.7v Lipos (4.2v at max charge) if you could solder the chargers to each cell (not entirely impossible, if you know your way around a Lipo battery) you could probably get the cells to charge independent of one another, but the other problem would be balancing the cells, you may need another circuit added between the two Lipo cells to achieve this (I am not familiar with the wiring on the TF Lipo). I know that the charger is 15v+ simply because the dock also has a 7.4v lipo and the two must both charge from one charger, but as long as you have 8+ volts to the TF itslef it should charge the lipo, or 5v*2 induction chargers?
Someone willing to sacrifice their TF (potentially) would be required to test this though.
Thanks for the input. Basically your saying it is out of my league without a walkthrough holding my hand lol.
Me and electricity don't get along. I have no fear of solder but I'd probably do put the poles on backwards...
Could anyone who has this tell me what the output is on each of the 5 pins?
I'm also interested in this info. It would be interesting to see if I can wedge the inductive coil from a palm into the rezound and use my touchstone for charging.
I'm assuming that the other connections on the charging back are the same antenna ones that are on the stock case.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24776164#post24776164
see post 18
Just curious if anyone else will try or has tried this?
I note the Xperia Tablet Z has NFC pins for wireless charging. From the Nexus 7 I know you can solder to these points internally and use a Qi charging pad.
Given the size of the XTZ I imagine you cannot fit a pad inside to do this (nor would you want to open this), but, in conjunction with a case, has anyone tried soldering to the external nfc?
I have a tablet on order and will be trying this and was curious if anyone else has attempted it. USB charging is slow, and perhaps this will allow us to charge faster than usb?
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Just curious if anyone else will try or has tried this?
I note the Xperia Tablet Z has NFC pins for wireless charging. From the Nexus 7 I know you can solder to these points internally and use a Qi charging pad.
Given the size of the XTZ I imagine you cannot fit a pad inside to do this (nor would you want to open this), but, in conjunction with a case, has anyone tried soldering to the external nfc?
I have a tablet on order and will be trying this and was curious if anyone else has attempted it. USB charging is slow, and perhaps this will allow us to charge faster than usb?
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I think that is possible because:
1) It have two external contact pin on left-side that for charging for docking.
2) Refers to this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3GJSlpFFVc, you can find the positive pin and negative pin or ask someone has a docking.
3) buy a coil from http://www.amazon.com/Aftermarket-Product-Wireless-Charger-Receiver/dp/B00BHOR3SA
4) Find some cases that suitable hold the coil.
for safety, find out the voltage from docking contact pin.
I am going to give it a try once mine arrives, as the dock charges faster than the USB, so it should take the Qi no problem. Just a matter of cleanly integrating it into the case I choose, since based on the disassembly I have seen there is no space internally. Fitted between the case and tablet shouldn't be a huge issue.
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I am going to give it a try once mine arrives, as the dock charges faster than the USB, so it should take the Qi no problem. Just a matter of cleanly integrating it into the case I choose, since based on the disassembly I have seen there is no space internally. Fitted between the case and tablet shouldn't be a huge issue.
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Did you have a go at this? Curious to know if you were successful or not.
Unfortunately I was unable to do any sort of testing on this matter as once I returned home where my supplies were, the tablet stopped working. Once I get a replacement I will investigate further.
Bummer, that's unfortuneate. Would be great if you could keep us informed as to how you go with this. Time permitting, I may have a shot as well.
Anyone make progress? I'm trying to figure it a decent way to attach the wires without soldering to the tablet.
You absolutely have to find out what voltage and current the docking station pins are rated for or else you're very likely to fry something. It's very possible that the docking connector uses a higher voltage than 5 V or a higher current than 1.5 A, especially considering the dock charges noticeably faster than the USB charger.
Since the port on the tablet has a lot bigger contact surface area than those of a micro USB connector, my guess would be that they use a higher current, but it might as well be a higher voltage and the large surface area is for providing a reliable connection. You will have to find this out yourself with a multimeter unless it's explicitly stated on the docking station.
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You absolutely have to find out what voltage and current the docking station pins are rated for or else you're very likely to fry something. It's very possible that the docking connector uses a higher voltage than 5 V or a higher current than 1.5 A, especially considering the dock charges noticeably faster than the USB charger.
Since the port on the tablet has a lot bigger contact surface area than those of a micro USB connector, my guess would be that they use a higher current, but it might as well be a higher voltage and the large surface area is for providing a reliable connection. You will have to find this out yourself with a multimeter unless it's explicitly stated on the docking station.
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Given that the dock charges well above what Qi does, how can you damage it by not applying enough power? Worst case it won't charge well, but you can't really overload it, no? How can a 500-1000ma Qi pad getting connected cause it to get damaged if it wants more power?
I note a guy built his own pogo pin charger here as well, which may be another option for me as I cannot think of a decent way to affix the wire without solder.
http://chargeconverter.com/blog/?p=194#comment-1930
I know you can damage it by reversing polarity, however.
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Given that the dock charges well above what Qi does, how can you damage it by not applying enough power? Worst case it won't charge well, but you can't really overload it, no? How can a 500-1000ma Qi pad getting connected cause it to get damaged if it wants more power?
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I wasn't talking specifically about the tablet when I said "fry something". It's true that applying a lower voltage than what the tablet expects shouldn't cause any damage, but there's no way of knowing without analyzing the charging circuits. It may confuse the charging circuit and provide power backwards.
On the topic of current, a Qi pad rated for 1000 mA would definitely not be enough. I'm not sure what a Qi pad contains, but it would at least need a coil and a rectifier. Assuming there's no current limiter involved, these components would get hotter than expected and possibly overheat, causing damage to some extent.
By all means, build your own hardware but don't skip out on your research.
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You absolutely have to find out what voltage and current the docking station pins are rated for or else you're very likely to fry something. It's very possible that the docking connector uses a higher voltage than 5 V or a higher current than 1.5 A, especially considering the dock charges noticeably faster than the USB charger.
Since the port on the tablet has a lot bigger contact surface area than those of a micro USB connector, my guess would be that they use a higher current, but it might as well be a higher voltage and the large surface area is for providing a reliable connection. You will have to find this out yourself with a multimeter unless it's explicitly stated on the docking station.
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I wasn't talking specifically about the tablet when I said "fry something". It's true that applying a lower voltage than what the tablet expects shouldn't cause any damage, but there's no way of knowing without analyzing the charging circuits. It may confuse the charging circuit and provide power backwards.
On the topic of current, a Qi pad rated for 1000 mA would definitely not be enough. I'm not sure what a Qi pad contains, but it would at least need a coil and a rectifier. Assuming there's no current limiter involved, these components would get hotter than expected and possibly overheat, causing damage to some extent.
By all means, build your own hardware but don't skip out on your research.
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Thanks for the pointers. Seems my qi receiver pad is only rated for 650ma and gets extremely hot as the tablet is connected, presumably because it is trying to draw the 1750~ the dock provides. I would assume if I left it for long periods it would melt the receiver. I will order one rated for 1000ma to see if it gets as hot, then worry about permanently affixing it.
Or do they get held in contact with the +5 and gnd connectors by the back plate?
The latter.
Ok I figured that out just the back just presses the contacts which is cool. But it doesn't charge on my inductive charger. I've verified voltage going to the inductive charger. But I set my phone on there any which way and nothing happens. This charger was a christmas present the internal qi I bought myself. It is of quality brand here is a pic of both.
Actually I will skip that. If i throw the qi pad on the charger by itself it measures 4.98v. So can whatever rom I'm using keep it from working properly or is my phone messed up
I've heard something about the Pixel 6 not allowing a magnet in a case to stick to a car magnet because it interferes with the wireless charging. Is this true? This will be my first wireless charging phone since I'm upgrading from the 2XL. I just currently have a magnet in my truck and a magnet in the case to have my phone handy. I would like to do the same thing but have a wireless charger in the truck. Any ideas for this?
Yes it's true. Actually it's the chargers that have the magnets, not the phone. Apple was firt to market with magnetic chargers using the Magsafe name, but fortunately even they use the Qi standard so it should work. It does seem that Qi is the lowest common denominator, so Apple's own products (and indeed Google's charger used with Pixel 6's) will charge I think at highet than standard Qi rates, if you care.
So you have to use a case that has a metal 'ring' around the wireless charging area (so it sticks to the charger) or buy a ring that sticks on to the case. Search 'magsafe compatible' for both the charger and the ring/case options.