http://phandroid.com/2012/02/28/spr...c-one-x-variant-evo-hd-lte-coming-soon-rumor/
Not for me, but a solid upgrade for OG EVO users I guess.
I'd really like to see another 3D phone... But if we're not getting one, and we get the One X with a Tegra 3, I'll jump on that faster than a fat kid on a candy bar from a pinata at a birthday party.
eXplicit815 said:
I'd really like to see another 3D phone... But if we're not getting one, and we get the One X with a Tegra 3, I'll jump on that faster than a fat kid on a candy bar from a pinata at a birthday party.
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Lol or like the fat kid eating pudding
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eXplicit815 said:
I'd really like to see another 3D phone... But if we're not getting one, and we get the One X with a Tegra 3, I'll jump on that faster than a fat kid on a candy bar from a pinata at a birthday party.
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To each there own. Me personally, I'm hoping to never see another 3d phone. As for the Tegra, if Sprint gets a varient of the X One, it will come equipped with an Quallcom s4 processor. Only the Euro varients have tegra with no LTE.
eXplicit815 said:
I'd really like to see another 3D phone... But if we're not getting one, and we get the One X with a Tegra 3, I'll jump on that faster than a fat kid on a candy bar from a pinata at a birthday party.
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wont be terga3 bud sorry. itll be qualcomm s4 if we get the device. HTC stated the reason the LTE version of the phone has the S4 in it was because " ...Nvidia doesn't have very solid LTE which is ready for the market yet,..." http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400774,00.asp
regardless id much much rather have the new S4 chips than the terga3. it isn't all about # cores. and as ive stated many times that dualcore S4 keeps up or is better than the Terga in just about all tests that anandtech did in their article. Plus you have the advantage of battery saving with the baseband modems being built in the die so no extra LTE modem chip like we do with wimax and others do with 4G so far.
ill jump on it if they add SD card and removable battery though...wouldn't mind the shutter button being added too...
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ill jump on it if they add SD card and removable battery though...wouldn't mind the shutter button being added too...
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wont be terga3 bud sorry. itll be qualcomm s4 if we get the device. HTC stated the reason the LTE version of the phone has the S4 in it was because " ...Nvidia doesn't have very solid LTE which is ready for the market yet,..." http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400774,00.asp
regardless id much much rather have the new S4 chips than the terga3. it isn't all about # cores. and as ive stated many times that dualcore S4 keeps up or is better than the Terga in just about all tests that anandtech did in their article. Plus you have the advantage of battery saving with the baseband modems being built in the die so no extra LTE modem chip like we do with wimax and others do with 4G so far.
ill jump on it if they add SD card and removable battery though...wouldn't mind the shutter button being added too...
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still cant believe this guy hasn't changed his article. sent him a tweet and posted in the comments an hour ago about how CTIA is in May this year NOT March....shotty journalism. lol
Yeah, I know the Tegra 3 is a long-shot, but I can dream. I'm just interested in trying something other than the Snapdragon series. I've used the Galaxy Tab 10.1 frequently, and I'm impressed. But regardless, I'll probably get this just because it's the next big thing out, and it's Sense 4.0 with ICS. I really wish they wouldn't throw in the towel with the EVO 3D, but I think that'll be a one-hit-wonder. I just like having a new phone every year.
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yes im sure. lol
28nm (pretty much A15 cortex) in the S4 versus 40nm A9cortex in the terga.....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
the terga has the current MSM8960(S4 dualcore chip with Adreno 225 graphics) beat from with gpu possibly, although if they toss in the Adreno 320 then they win that battle easily too....
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eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, I know the Tegra 3 is a long-shot, but I can dream. I'm just interested in trying something other than the Snapdragon series. I've used the Galaxy Tab 10.1 frequently, and I'm impressed. But regardless, I'll probably get this just because it's the next big thing out, and it's Sense 4.0 with ICS. I really wish they wouldn't throw in the towel with the EVO 3D, but I think that'll be a one-hit-wonder. I just like having a new phone every year.
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so you want a chip that is older and worse for the most part than the one likely to come in it? that makes a ton of sense. lol
Understand if your tired of Qualcomm but dont sell out for a lesser piece of hardware. least go for the new samsung chips out if you are anti-qualcomm now...
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yes im sure. lol
28nm (pretty much A15 cortex) in the S4 versus 40nm A9cortex in the terga.....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
the terga has the current MSM8960(S4 dualcore chip with Adreno 225 graphics) beat from with gpu possibly, although if they toss in the Adreno 320 then they win that battle easily too....
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so you want a chip that is older and worse for the most part than the one likely to come in it? that makes a ton of sense. lol
Understand if your tired of Qualcomm but dont sell out for a lesser piece of hardware. least go for the new samsung chips out if you are anti-qualcomm now...
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All I said is I wanted to try something else. Regardless of the stats, it's nice to see a change. If I don't like it, I can always move on to something else. I won't settle for anything other than an HTC, that's just the way I am.
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All I said is I wanted to try something else. Regardless of the stats, it's nice to see a change. If I don't like it, I can always move on to something else. I won't settle for anything other than an HTC, that's just the way I am.
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gotcha. if $ is not ever an issue you have that option as always to try as many as you like.
You know those starts are not at the 1.6ghz mark. Those were the scores I got running it stock with a max of 1.3ghz. The test I did was at 1.6 and it is much faster than running 1.3 by a long shot. I'm not discrediting the S4 because it is a very fast chip but I think it will be a closer match running the T3 at its stock, tegra3, speed of 1.6ghz. I'll probably get the S4 if that's all we get and be happy with it. Then I can do some real world comparisons.
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You know those starts are not at the 1.6ghz mark. Those were the scores I got running it stock with a max of 1.3ghz. The test I did was at 1.6 and it is much faster than running 1.3 by a long shot. I'm not discrediting the S4 because it is a very fast chip but I think it will be a closer match running the T3 at its stock, tegra3, speed of 1.6ghz. I'll probably get the S4 if that's all we get and be happy with it. Then I can do some real world comparisons.
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yeah but comparing it at 1.6GHz isn't really fair as your comparing a non-stock clock speed. lol...like cranking up the S4 to 1.8GHz to be equivalent to that kind of test since that would be 1GHz over the stated top clock speed.
Tegra3->I show as listed to do Single Core @1.5GHz /Quad-Core @1.4GHz
S4 MSM9060-> listed to do 1.5GHz-1.7GHz on its spec
the above i just used what qualcomm and nvdia listed them as and not the lower clocks the carriers/OEM's set them at btw.
At 1.6 it will run, at least in my tests, three cores only. The same with 1.5ghz. At 1.3 it will run all four. The prime doesn't have it built in to do 1.4 because we don't have a custom kernel yet.
I thought I read that the S4 runs dual at 1.5, is that right? If so then you could compare the two as a close match. Either way we will have to wait till someone besides the manufacturers have it in their hands.
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yeah but comparing it at 1.6GHz isn't really fair as your comparing a non-stock clock speed. lol...like cranking up the S4 to 1.8GHz to be equivalent to that kind of test since that would be 1GHz over the stated top clock speed.
Tegra3->I show as listed to do Single Core @1.5GHz /Quad-Core @1.4GHz
S4 MSM9060-> listed to do 1.5GHz-1.7GHz on its spec
the above i just used what qualcomm and nvdia listed them as and not the lower clocks the carriers/OEM's set them at btw.
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Hopefully the next one will have a 8mp cam in it so when we root and wanna use CM or Miui or something random like that we won't lose the other one due to no 3D support on some roms.. Missed that on the EVO Camera worked on pretty much any rom you wanted...
I don't really care for benchmarks on a phone On computers ya also on the video cards for gaming and what not oh ya.. Hopefully they drop something smooth for a cpu nothing that adds more heat and smooth.. To me stock speeds do what I want it to do and works just as fine.. Battery life can depend on numerous things.. From apps to scripts to you name it... Anyway lookin forward to seeing something new and S-off maybe For the next HTC product
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At 1.6 it will run, at least in my tests, three cores only. The same with 1.5ghz. At 1.3 it will run all four. The prime doesn't have it built in to do 1.4 because we don't have a custom kernel yet.
I thought I read that the S4 runs dual at 1.5, is that right? If so then you could compare the two as a close match. Either way we will have to wait till someone besides the manufacturers have it in their hands.
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yeah deff. thats why i used the qualcomm and nvdia specs as opposed to what the manufacturers clock the chip at.
do you guys not have source yet? woulda thought that with the unlocked bootloader released that they would of at least given you guys source too....
Yeah we have source and as of yesterday got three scripts to work to allow flashing a boot.img. I can't wait to see how much this can OC...you know just because we can
sgt. slaughter said:
yeah deff. thats why i used the qualcomm and nvdia specs as opposed to what the manufacturers clock the chip at.
do you guys not have source yet? woulda thought that with the unlocked bootloader released that they would of at least given you guys source too....
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eXplicit815 said:
I'd really like to see another 3D phone... But if we're not getting one, and we get the One X with a Tegra 3, I'll jump on that faster than a fat kid on a candy bar from a pinata at a birthday party.
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Seriously? Are you kidding me? The 3D feature is complete garbage. I have never used it once other than just to SEE what the hell it was. Very unimpressed. I only got a 3D because it was a beefier spec'd version of the Evo 4G.
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Seriously? Are you kidding me? The 3D feature is complete garbage. I have never used it once other than just to SEE what the hell it was. Very unimpressed. I only got a 3D because it was a beefier spec'd version of the Evo 4G.
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To each their own. There's actually some people that can't see it very well, or even at all, and that may be the reason why some don't like it. I think it's innovative. I can sit and enjoy an entire 3D movie on my phone without getting so much as a twitch in my eye. Others got it for the reason you mentioned, but still, if they came out with an EVO 3D 2, you would still buy it because the specs will be better than your current phone.
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But why?!?
The Qualcomm CPU should kick ass. (Granted, it might not be faster than the Exynos in SGII but it shouldn't be MUCH slower) The GPU is also on par, if not faster than the Mali and Tegra GPU...
So why do my Benchmark scores kinda suck? My Tegra2 powered 7 inch tablet usually gets way better scores than my Evo3D... On some benchmarks it's even noticably behind LG Optimus 2X and similar phones that it should be AT LEAST on par with, if not faster...
Is it only the ROM that's at fault here or what's going on? What benchmark scores do the rest of you get? Smartbench, Antutu, Quadrant, CF Bench and all the rest of them?
(And yes, the phone is smooth enough in everyday use. And benchmarks don't mean everything, but it DOES mean something...)
It only means anything if all you do is bench testing on your phone. Try play games, watch films and take some picture with youe phone instead.
The mal 400 is way faster than anything else in android phones.
Never the less, nothing comes close to taxing the 3d processor or go. So don't worry about benches.
What more do you really need out of EVO3D benches to see that with the right ROM, and not having 46 widgets and livewallpaper running in the background, you can get some pretty nice scores:
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Various roms, kernels, no telling really what at the time, but pretty much in line. There's something wrong with the Rom you're on, or your setup if you can't get good benches with this phone, IMHO.
What ROM, kernel, are you running, and what's a 'bad' score in your book?
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I love it when people jizz over benchmark scores. Like justj said, try some apps, games, and movies. If they run fantastically, then you're phone is running great, and you don't need to worry about silly benchmark numbers.
Real Use >>>>>>> Benchmarks
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What ROM, kernel, are you running, and what's a 'bad' score in your book?
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Ah, thank you... I'll turn off everything but the benchmarking app, and get back to you with the scores... As for "bad score" well, I'd expect it to beat my tablet (Tegra2, 1024*600 resolution) as well as the LG 2X, Atrix, Optimus 3D, and most of the newer phones on the market, really. Which it at present doesn't do. It gets beaten by the Nexus S in some benchmarks!
Video and games and so on run pretty fast and smooth, so overall I'm happy and don't place TOO much weight on benchmarks. I just find it odd, because benchmarks to certain degree DO reflect real world performance.
I'll get back to you with scores and which ROM etc. Off the top of my head, I remember it's running 2.3.4 Rogers ROM...
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Ah, thank you... I'll turn off everything but the benchmarking app, and get back to you with the scores... As for "bad score" well, I'd expect it to beat my tablet (Tegra2, 1024*600 resolution) as well as the LG 2X, Atrix, Optimus 3D, and most of the newer phones on the market, really. Which it at present doesn't do. It gets beaten by the Nexus S in some benchmarks!
Video and games and so on run pretty fast and smooth, so overall I'm happy and don't place TOO much weight on benchmarks. I just find it odd, because benchmarks to certain degree DO reflect real world performance.
I'll get back to you with scores and which ROM etc. Off the top of my head, I remember it's running 2.3.4 Rogers ROM...
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Didn't know you had a GSM phone.... Those are capped at 80% of potential speed by the Canadian Government.
(Nah, j/k).
Good luck on outbenchmarking the LG2X... (you'll need it). Benchmarks can't save a bad phone, but if they could, that's where they'd start. I've seen multiple screens from multiple Lg2x users running CM7 with Quadrant Standard scores of over 5K. That's insane.
We'll probably never see that on an EVO3D, but it doesn't matter, because ultimately, the LG2X isn't half the phone at the end of the day.
Just my 2 cents.
Edit: If your tablet happens to be a Viewsonic Gtab, well, forget that notion as well. That basically is at the top of every benchmark 'top scores' list.
I've got one.
Is it fast?
Incredibly fast.
Would I trade it right now for a "slower" tablet that was a "better" tablet?
You betcha.
Righty o...
I could always upload screenshots later if you think that might be a good idea, but here are some scores:
Antutu: 4442, which puts it behind both the S2, the Optimus 2X and the Motorola Xoom (!?!)
Nenamark 2 reported a somewhat respectable 25.6.
Smartbench 2011 (Supposedly the only benchmark suite that takes dualcore into consideration): Productivity: 2397 Games: 1650
(Which is behind the Transformer Tab and Atrix in both categories, and even behind the Nexus S and Galaxy S in Games)
Quadrant:1491 (Just ahead of Moto Droid X and Nexus One at 1250!)
Devicemark: 1325 (Equal to Desire HD, but behind the Atrix and LG 2X)
CF Bench: 8740, 1364, 4314 (Way behind both the Atrix and the Sensation?!)
I think that's it as far as the benchmarks I ran. I can upload the screenshots if you think it might help. As for the phone, it's a Rogers phone with the 2.3.4 Gingerbread, HTC software: 1.20.631.2
(BTW: What does "SMP PREEMPT" mean in the Kernel version?!?)
And no, the tablet is an Iconia A100. Zippy little thing, though I don't understand how it can run corners around my Evo with a Tegra CPU and more pixels to push...
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I could always upload screenshots later if you think that might be a good idea, but here are some scores:
Antutu: 4442, which puts it behind both the S2, the Optimus 2X and the Motorola Xoom (!?!)
Nenamark 2 reported a somewhat respectable 25.6.
Smartbench 2011 (Supposedly the only benchmark suite that takes dualcore into consideration): Productivity: 2397 Games: 1650
(Which is behind the Transformer Tab and Atrix in both categories, and even behind the Nexus S and Galaxy S in Games)
Quadrant:1491 (Just ahead of Moto Droid X and Nexus One at 1250!)
Devicemark: 1325 (Equal to Desire HD, but behind the Atrix and LG 2X)
CF Bench: 8740, 1364, 4314 (Way behind both the Atrix and the Sensation?!)
I think that's it as far as the benchmarks I ran. I can upload the screenshots if you think it might help. As for the phone, it's a Rogers phone with the 2.3.4 Gingerbread, HTC software: 1.20.631.2
(BTW: What does "SMP PREEMPT" mean in the Kernel version?!?)
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There is something seriously wrong. The least you should be getting is around 2000-2500.
Yeah, I turned off background apps, etc. What scores do people with the Rogers ROM usually get? Would backing up and then a full restore to factory settings help?
I'm rooted btw, but didn't install an alternate rom.
No question that the gs2 benches well but after having one for a couple days I missed my 3d..I trade benches for a smooth and usable UI ..but ocd I can beat the gs2 in every bench app there is ..I never felt the supposed increase in speed that the epic has ..the 3d opened my apps faster and was more stable using games that utilized the gyro ie homerun baseball 3d ..almost unplayable on the gs2..our phones have plenty of power either way we have plenty of power on tap
Nope. Quadrant seems about right from what I remember with the Rogers ROM. Not much better with LeeDroid either.
Might have to do with the inability of GSM devs to tweak the kernel and overclock as HTC messed up the board files in the kernel sources they released for the GSM.
This is what I've got with aosp oc...
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And no, the tablet is an Iconia A100. Zippy little thing, though I don't understand how it can run corners around my Evo with a Tegra CPU and more pixels to push...
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Oooh... I'm VERY interested in the A100... I'm actually going to Best Buy today, as they finally have them in stock @~300$... But they have the Flyer as well at the same price...
The a100 IS sporting a dual-core Tegra2 A9 processor, is it not?
And since HC 3.2 in a brand-new device is probably optimized better, speed-wise, I, for one, would expect it to out-perform the 3d in a benchmark test, even @ 1000Mhz.
How do you like the A100, overall?
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No, you kinda lost, because you made anyone who might be interested download a dropbox file instead of just doing this:
EDIT: WHOOPS, Sorry dude... If I had noticed you were using drocap or whatever I would've understood your need to dropbox it.
Some of those market screenshot apps just do not work. Native screenshot works fine for me..END EDIT.
(whatevs, no biggie, lol.. Nice scores.. Which Rom/kernel combo is that, if you don't mind me asking?
I'm gonna just guess and say that's an OC'd aosp rom.
Yes?
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How do you like the A100, overall?
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I actually really like it! When I was in the store, I let all the tablets do a sunspider test, and the A100 actually came out ahead of everybody, even the iPad2, so it IS a zippy little fella.
Anything in particular you'd like to know? The two cameras are just fine, the few times I used them for anything else than a webcam, they did the job fine.
Speakers are great and really loud. The screen is a bit on the dim side, but turning off the auto light in settings take care of that. It's really comfortable to hold, even for extended periods of time, even if the plastic might make it feel and look less than a premium product.
Batterylife is kinda meh, I usually don't get more than 5 hours out of it, but then again it's pretty rare that I take it somewhere where there isn't a charger around. The only thing I can think off that would require your tab to be on for 5 hours is a plane trip, and even most of those have chargers these days
The only caveat I would have, is that as a Evo3D owner a 7 inch screen might be a bit too small. I mean the difference between 7 and 4.3 inches isn't that big in daily use, and after getting the Evo I kinda find the 7 inch screen a bit on the small side. Might just be me though. If I had to choose any tablet today, I think I'd go for the Galaxy. The 10 inch size is just right, and it weighs pretty much the same as the A100, and since getting a tablet I've found out that weight means more in terms of portability than just size.
The only other thing I've found to be annoying would probably also apply to the Flyer: There aren't too many tablet apps available as it is, and the few tablet apps there are, aren't always compatible with 7 inch tabs. There are way more apps and games available for 10 inch tablets.
Oh yeah, one more thing: The A100 is super easy too root. Took me like 5 mins. But the support for it is pretty poor. There's like no ROMs available for it at all, which I find really weird. Not yet anyways, but hopefully it'll gain some devs...
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Oh yeah, one more thing: The A100 is super easy too root. Took me like 5 mins. But the support for it is pretty poor. There's like no ROMs available for it at all, which I find really weird. Not yet anyways, but hopefully it'll gain some devs...
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BTW, I posted this somewhere else, and you may already know this trick, but if you wanna "revert your UI to Gingerbread" on an HC tablet (I did.... Just not into HC yet), and since you've already rooted, if you change your density to 171 (or above) , it will revert the ui to GB, (something you might be more used to, or like better) , while maintaining compatibility with those 3.0 apps.
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I got no idea, (and don't really care) but prepare for a new twist on the question, and for fanbois everywhere to get their minds BLOWN on this phone:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3064&c=samsung_shv-e120s_galaxy_s_ii_hd_lte_samsung_celox
The Samsung Galaxy 2 HD... WITH has the SAME Snapdragon CPU as our Evo.
I guess that kinda nullifies most of the arguments about the Exynos CPU being sooo awesome, lol!
On a more serious note, I'm really curious about the performance of this one. If TouchWiz gets the same kind of performance as Sense does or not, since most other things in this phone and the Evo or the Sensation XE will be equal...
Interesting...
ohmy......
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Interesting...
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Yeah, isn't it? Especially since HTC also have some HD handsets on the way ALSO with the same Snapdragon SOC, so you can make even more of a direct comparison.
People have said for years that Sense slows down HTC phones, something I don't really buy (Might make a little difference, but they had years to finetune it, so I doubt it makes a big difference).
But for the first time we'll be able to see if Sense really makes a difference in performance as opposed to Touchwiz or plain Android, and how big a difference drivers make.
And by comparing Samsungs ROM with HTCs or SEs ROMs, developers will learn a little more and might come up with some new tweaks.
So interesting indeed!
I really don't see why people are attacking the OP. He isn't trolling.
Anyway, something interesting I read was that the T-mobile Galaxy S II will be using the MSM8260 @ 1.5 Ghz. Engadget said so far from what they've seen, they couldn't see any hint of it being slower than the Exynos version of the GSII.
Here is the Xiaomi phone, which also has the 1.5 Ghz dualcore snapdragon MSM8620. They benchmarked it against the GSII and it kept us quite well.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/27/xiaomi-phone-review/
Based on all of this information, its clear that other phones with very similar hardware to ours are performing noticeably better which indicates to me that our software is the culprit.
Just look how similar this phones hardware is to ours:
"Being one of the few devices sporting a 1.5GHz dual-core Qualcomm MSM8260 SoC, we'd be silly to not do any benchmarking with the Xiaomi Phone. Accompanied by an Adreno 220 graphics processor, 1GB RAM and 4GB ROM, a slick performance is a given -- after all, Xiaomi did start off as a third-party ROM developer, so system optimization should be a piece of cake for it. From the scores we obtained, we'd say the Xiaomi Phone is on par with the Galaxy S II despite the higher clock speed: on Quadrant the former got 3,040, which is only a bit behind the Galaxy S II's 3,396. However, the graphical performance showed mixed outcomes:"
This is good news IMO, since we should experience quite a performance boost once all the problems with AOSP/CM7 have been ironed out and we get more optimized kernels.
The EVO 3D is capable of more than what HTC's stock software allows it to do, that much is clear.
damn my mind.. its like.. bloownnnnn
The SGS2HD might have the same chip, but the Sprint SGS2 curb-stomps the 3D, right?
Alright folks, back on topic please.
One warning, that is all.
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Nonetheless. His post in this thread are unnecessary. If a person is just being a **** and not contributing then they shouldn't bother posting. The negative, flaming, and bullying post are a major reason why this site is going to ****. If those unnecessary post are never made then this would be a MUCH better place.
To the OP. It will be interesting to see how the processor performs w/ Samsungs optimizations and and software. It will be the true test of Exynos v Snapdragon.
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I still think this phone has already showed us that the Snapdragon can run with the Exynos.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/27/xiaomi-phone-review/
Look at the benchmarks on that link.
Just like the Evo 3d, it has a dual core snapdragon (though at 1.5 Ghz), 1 GB Ram, 4GB ROM and the Adreno 220 GPU.
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The SGS2HD might have the same chip, but the Sprint SGS2 curb-stomps the 3D, right?
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Benchmark scores are certainly more impressive but for real world use I can't tell a difference in speed. However, the SGS2 is a little smoother. In all honesty, the NS4G is smoother than the E3D.
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Benchmark scores are certainly more impressive but for real world use I can't tell a difference in speed. However, the SGS2 is a little smoother. In all honesty, the NS4G is smoother than the E3D.
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heck, my brother's Epic 4G is smoother than my Evo 3D...
you guys all so gotta keep in mind that the evo 3d runs alot higher res.. which can affect speeds and out put score on the benchmark =)
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you guys all so gotta keep in mind that the evo 3d runs alot higher res.. which can affect speeds and out put score on the benchmark =)
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it isn't a lot higher
Really? Another one of these posts? *sigh*
Just to note. The fact the Sammy might be using a snapdragon does not mean, at all, that its the better CPU. Do all manufacturers go with the best when building anything?
Absolutely not... So why do they go with some parts over others? Cheaper. If their contract ran out with Nvidia and they could go with Qualcomm for cheaper. Yeah, they would jump the boat for sure.
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it isn't a lot higher
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well i mean alittle higher
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you guys all so gotta keep in mind that the evo 3d runs alot higher res.. which can affect speeds and out put score on the benchmark =)
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While the NS4G is smoother than the E3D, the E3D is certainly a lot faster.
The question to ask is;
What has better 3d?
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While the NS4G is smoother than the E3D, the E3D is certainly a lot faster.
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what good is all that speed if it isn't translated to smoothness?
does anyone know the difference between the msm8260 and the msm8660?
whats the apq8260 (ap only apparently, i dont know what that means)?
i just bought a touchpad and i originally thought it had the same processor as the E3D
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what good is all that speed if it isn't translated to smoothness?
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The nexus S is just as relevant at this point as an iPhone 3G.
How is it that the Xiami Mi-One, running the same dualcore snapdragon (@ 1.5 GHz) as the Evo 3D, the sensation and the T-Mobile GSII is able to blow them all out of the water in performance?
I've seen benchmarks from multiple sources but here is one:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5053/vellamo-benchmarking-on-six-android-phones
Is there any way we can use the optimizations in this phone for our own benefit on the Evo 3D?
Well if you read closer in the article, they say that Vellamo runs browser performance which they equate to processor benchmarking and that Xiaomi have made changes to the stock android browser as well as it runs 2.3.7 instead of 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 and there may be further optimizations in the updated Android. It would be nice to see what modifications have been done to the browser and if they can be appliead elsewhere but:
1. HTC Sense weighs down the OS, which is why EVO 3D performs worse than Xiaomi and Galaxy SII Skyrocket with same processors and,
2. I never trust the Chinese.
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Plus, it runs MIUI which has lots of changes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19456355&postcount=4969
That was my next suggestion. Flash MIUI and see benchmark
Or we can stop relying on benchmarks and start using actual performance as a baseline....
Does anyone actually HAVE IT (outside china) to see how it works?
Also, can I change that mi-UI to ENGLISH?
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That was my next suggestion. Flash MIUI and see benchmark
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this is my evo 3d antutu benchmark(no oc,android 2.3.7)
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OP, where did you get the 1.5G EVO 3D? mine is 1.2G. And I searched on internet can't find an official Evo 3d with 1.5G CPU.
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OP, where did you get the 1.5G EVO 3D? mine is 1.2G. And I searched on internet can't find an official Evo 3d with 1.5G CPU.
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There is no Evo 3D with a 1.5 Ghz CPU. Perhaps my post is worded poorly but I meant to say the Xiaomi is 1.5 not the Evo.
Technically they are all the same CPU (potentially having different radios) but its possible the Evo 3D's 1.2 GHz chips are the lower binned ones, though I've never heard of an Evo 3D that couldn't handle a 1.5 GHz overclock.
Here is a review of the phone with some benchmark numbers:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/27/xiaomi-phone-review/
Seems like a solid performer and for a very reasonable price, too bad its not available in the US.
Yea the EVO 3d git throttled back for battery saving... But the CPU specs call for 1.52 ghz
Shot from my shooter in 3D
injected with cleanrom2.8
LOL. I can imagine a few ways to boost your performance.
For example, with quadrant, use a script to mount its storage to a ramdisk
There's a zillion ways for someone unscrupulous to cheat in these silly scores... With such an unreliable ROM as that one (and I implore you not to run MIUI for a variety of reasons), what makes you think it's being honest about that?
Heck, I could write a memory resident program that would adjust the scores perceived by a benchmark Remember, when you run an untrusted firmware, you cannot trust anything you see on the screen
poweroutlet said:
How is it that the Xiami Mi-One, running the same dualcore snapdragon (@ 1.5 GHz) as the Evo 3D, the sensation and the T-Mobile GSII is able to blow them all out of the water in performance?
I've seen benchmarks from multiple sources but here is one:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5053/vellamo-benchmarking-on-six-android-phones
Is there any way we can use the optimizations in this phone for our own benefit on the Evo 3D?
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Because its been drinking green tea all morning.
Put your 3d in green tea all morning.
DUH?
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What's wrong with running Miui?
I want you all to know this I have a mi-one device and I will be the first to say that I think the EVO 3D runs and feels faster then the mi-one. And I also have the HTC Sensation and its feels a little faster then the EVO 3D.
Both running MIUI!
there is some cool things about the MI-ONE device but I prefer to use my EVO 3D.
The Mi-Two Plus is the next bad ass device!
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I want you all to know this I have a mi-one device and I will be the first to say that I think the EVO 3D runs and feels faster then the mi-one. And I also have the HTC Sensation and its feels a little faster then the EVO 3D.
Both running MIUI!
there is some cool things about the MI-ONE device but I prefer to use my EVO 3D.
The Mi-Two Plus is the next bad ass device!
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i find it weird that the sensation feels faster given that aside from cameras and screen technology, the only real difference is RAM, which the E3D has more of. I wonder if it's because of the the dev support on the sensation is greater, therefore they can squeeze more performance out of the device. any thoughts scott?
There is a ROM in the cdma development that OC'd at 1.8 ghz! (I think it was ziggy's dual core kernel that was used in the ROM)
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pulser_g2 said:
LOL. I can imagine a few ways to boost your performance.
For example, with quadrant, use a script to mount its storage to a ramdisk
There's a zillion ways for someone unscrupulous to cheat in these silly scores... With such an unreliable ROM as that one (and I implore you not to run MIUI for a variety of reasons), what makes you think it's being honest about that?
Heck, I could write a memory resident program that would adjust the scores perceived by a benchmark Remember, when you run an untrusted firmware, you cannot trust anything you see on the screen
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pulser, your sig is effing hilarious!
scott951 said:
I want you all to know this I have a mi-one device and I will be the first to say that I think the EVO 3D runs and feels faster then the mi-one. And I also have the HTC Sensation and its feels a little faster then the EVO 3D.
Both running MIUI!
there is some cool things about the MI-ONE device but I prefer to use my EVO 3D.
The Mi-Two Plus is the next bad ass device!
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/me goes off to google "Mi-Two Plus"
I'm guessing but I think the 3D technology.
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i have something to say
raptoro07 said:
Well if you read closer in the article, they say that Vellamo runs browser performance which they equate to processor benchmarking and that Xiaomi have made changes to the stock android browser as well as it runs 2.3.7 instead of 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 and there may be further optimizations in the updated Android. It would be nice to see what modifications have been done to the browser and if they can be appliead elsewhere but:
1. HTC Sense weighs down the OS, which is why EVO 3D performs worse than Xiaomi and Galaxy SII Skyrocket with same processors and,
2. I never trust the Chinese.
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Plus, it runs MIUI which has lots of changes.
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i dont think its right that you dont trust us only because of where we are born, its not things that we can decide.
most part of chinese are kind deeply, i mean, except the politicians and the f_cking government, you know what i mean
Probably because the hardware and software are developed for each other?
Similar to why people say slow ass iPhones are faster than top of the range Android phones.
That's my guess.
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Hello everyone,
i currently own the good ol' fashion nexus one and i decided to stick with htc.
right now i have my eyes set on the evo 3d but i would like to have some more opinions on the phone from people who acctually own\owned one.
how fast is it?
hows the 3d?
is the 1gb or rom that restrictive? [evo 3d gsm users]
does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
and some general notes you have to say about the device.
thanks you all and best regards
how fast is it?
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Umm, fast? Obviously not the fastest phone out anymore, as its about 8 months old.
hows the 3d?
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Works good, but pretty much just a gimick. I have watched a few 3d youtube videos, but I would never be able to stare at this small of a screen to watch a two hour movie.
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
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I believe 1.5 or 1.6 is the highest stable you can go.
Don't buy this pos.
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kthejoker20 said:
Don't buy this pos.
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when i saw you name, i thought that i remember i labeled you as a troll from some posts a while back, now reading your reply my initial thoughts were correct.
this phone is very good but if you want a phone that you expect many different roms to flash maybe you should get another phone
I say just wait for the phone that everyone wants = more devs
dfskevinohyeah said:
this phone is very good but if you want a phone that you expect many different roms to flash maybe you should get another phone
I say just wait for the phone that everyone wants = more devs
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i second this. good phone...not an extreme amount of community/dev support. there is plenty, but it's not a phone that has some great number of experimental roms or anything.
Good phone, but imo should go with something newer if tech interest you. If not, go for it. Can get it really cheap now compared to the other phones with same tech. 3d is just a plus, not a must have but fun to play with and show off to friends.
And 3d boobs =
From the giant: Galaxy Note
It currently has the best resolution, openness of storage, good processor speed, and ram available on sprint. The 3D is an OK extra but even without it it's the best phone right now.
Saneless One said:
It currently has the best resolution, openness of storage, good processor speed, and ram available on sprint. The 3D is an OK extra but even without it it's the best phone right now.
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does anyone really even use the 3d capabilities?
how fast is it?
The UI has no lag, if that's what you mean
hows the 3d?
It's annoying and strains your eyes, but pretty cool the first few weeks. After that, you really stop using it.
does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
Yep, no lag
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
The phone's stock clock is 1.2Ghz. The processor is meant to be at 1.5Ghz so that's the highest stable you'll go. Some phones can get up to 1.8Ghz and 1.9Ghz.
Additional Notes:
Don't get the evo 3D unless you need a new phone now. This phone is 8 months old meaning the new Evo will come out soon. Also, the GSM Evo 3D doesn't have much dev support. If you want great dev support, try the Samsung Galaxy SII.
yousefak said:
how fast is it?
The UI has no lag, if that's what you mean
hows the 3d?
It's annoying and strains your eyes, but pretty cool the first few weeks. After that, you really stop using it.
does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
Yep, no lag
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
The phone's stock clock is 1.2Ghz. The processor is meant to be at 1.5Ghz so that's the highest stable you'll go. Some phones can get up to 1.8Ghz and 1.9Ghz.
Additional Notes:
Don't get the evo 3D unless you need a new phone now. This phone is 8 months old meaning the new Evo will come out soon. Also, the GSM Evo 3D doesn't have much dev support. If you want great dev support, try the Samsung Galaxy SII.
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Pretty much what this guy said.. I was going to say. So Kudos.
Get this phone if its for cheap money, otherwise get a GS2.
I wouldn't waste your upgrade on a phone that's been out for 8 months
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mentaist12 said:
how fast is it?
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At stock it is meh, put a custom ROM and kernel and it is very fast and smooth.
mentaist12 said:
hows the 3d?
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Just a gimmick that youll use for a day when you first get it and to show off to people that will also get tired of it in 5 minutes
mentaist12 said:
is the 1gb or rom that restrictive? [evo 3d gsm users]
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I have CDMA, IDK if you mean the 1GB internal storage space? All ROMs install and run fine and have plenty of room left
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does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
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Never played any of those but I would imagine so. It has pretty beefy processing power and as I said before, if you put a custom ROM and kernel on it then things become VERY smooth. Benchmarks are subjective and everyone has their favorite, but some people can pull over 4000 score in Quadrant benchmark with this phone.
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whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
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Highest I have seen is just over 2GHz, but I dont think that is stable 100%. Highest known to be stable is a bit over 1.7GHz, most are completely stable around 1.5-1.6GHz range. I have my phone set up with a 2 stage OnDemand governor with a max speed of 1.4GHz
Performance from overclocking is big, especially on a custom kernel like AnthraX. That kernel has different GPU and bus speeds in it as well, and if you run between 1.4-1.6GHz you have an overclocked GPU as well as overclocked CPU. Going above that lowers GPU to stock speeds to help stability.
Performance is VERY good at stock though and you shouldnt need to OC to run anything.
Battery life is average Id say, but if you get just the right setup and tweak things just right you can get amazing battery life. I have gone over 3 days on a single charge with very light usage. On heavy usage it is like any phone and only goes about 5-6 hours.
m00nhead said:
does anyone really even use the 3d capabilities?
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I keep kidding myself that I'll watch a 3D movie or so one of these days. So far I think I watched half of Avatar.
well thats kind of disappointing i thought this phone would have better opinions...
well then i would like that ull recommend a phone if possible id like to stay with htc... loving sense and loving build quality.. and the gsII isnt a possibility for me...
i wanted the evo 3d over the sensation xe because of the ram..
the question is... is it worth the wait and the money to wait for the next gen snapdragon s4 htc devices which will probebly be annouced at mwc in a month..
great phone fast responsive with the latest update battery life has been great for me. every game i threw at it , it played it with no lag . I think it will take some time for devs to really get a hold of the 3d thing to get that and 4g into asop roms. I found this app on htc hub called phereo thats a 3d pic sharing app thats got me hooked on the 3d side of it again lol. my stable max over clock is 1728 mhz hope this helps
mentaist12 said:
well thats kind of disappointing i thought this phone would have better opinions...
well then i would like that ull recommend a phone if possible id like to stay with htc... loving sense and loving build quality.. and the gsII isnt a possibility for me...
i wanted the evo 3d over the sensation xe because of the ram..
the question is... is it worth the wait and the money to wait for the next gen snapdragon s4 htc devices which will probebly be annouced at mwc in a month..
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I don't know what these guys are talking about. This is by far the best quality/price you could get right now. There is the Motorola Atrix 4G which is also cheap but not as good as the Evo3D. The only dark spot is the camera which is good but not as great as other phones.
Evo 3D is always on the top 5 most popular phones on XDA. so I guess deving is still ongoing. Most devs are just waiting for an ICS leak to get back. And GSM dev section has nearly all flavours: Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, AOSP (MIUI, ICS and CM) and I have no doubt that even if some builds miss one or two things, they will get mature in the near future.
Anyway, my choices would be:
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and can wait: HTC Edge.
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and cannot wait: HTC Amaze.
If you don't have money, want speed with good quality build: HTC Evo 3D.
And since I do like to use my phone (using like calling family, checking mails, feeds, etc. not like running useless benchmarks) and want it to stick around, I would never recommend a plastic phone like GSII.
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I don't know what these guys are talking about. This is by far the best quality/price you could get right now. There is the Motorola Atrix 4G which is also cheap but not as good as the Evo3D. The only dark spot is the camera which is good but not as great as other phones.
Evo 3D is always on the top 5 most popular phones on XDA. so I guess deving is still ongoing. Most devs are just waiting for an ICS leak to get back. And GSM dev section has nearly all flavours: Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, AOSP (MIUI, ICS and CM) and I have no doubt that even if some builds miss one or two things, they will get mature in the near future.
Anyway, my choices would be:
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and can wait: HTC Edge.
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and cannot wait: HTC Amaze.
If you don't have money, want speed with good quality build: HTC Evo 3D.
And since I do like to use my phone (using like calling family, checking mails, feeds, etc. not like running useless benchmarks) and want it to stick around, I would never recommend a plastic phone like GSII.
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What this guy said however I have cdma version.
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m00nhead said:
does anyone really even use the 3d capabilities?
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I actually use 3D a lot. I have watched quit a few movies, played almost all of the games and love just checking out 3D pictures. Some people complain about it but I love it. I love the phone overall. The only thing that would stop me from buying this phone, is the possibility of a quad core soon.
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I wouldn't think to hard. I think living in your parents basement is getting to you.
How are you enjoying your new screen name after you got the last one banned?
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This might be a bit of good news. Not so sure how much the 720p LCD of the EVO 4G LTE will affect some of these test but I'm hoping not too far off from what the S gets. Sorry if this has been posted. Leaving work and didnt have much time to search.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/05/htc-one-x-vs-one-s/
Another good news. ATT version with S4 benchmarked! So higher screen res doesnt seem to hinder performance. Great news indeed.
http://phandroid.com/2012/04/10/att...k-gauntlet-dual-core-processor-holds-its-own/
Anyone see an article saying the Evo 4g LTE or whatever the evo one is named may actually be better than the one series phones?
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have u not seen the benchmarks of the s4 pwning tegra 3 single thread and multi thread but then again benches dont really matter..tegra is usually good for gaming
JoelZ9614 said:
have u not seen the benchmarks of the s4 pwning tegra 3 single thread and multi thread but then again benches dont really matter..tegra is usually good for gaming
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So what about the heat? Which processor is the best? Overheat will effect gaming performance.
More comparison with video. I notice some very minor stuttering in the One S when he is swiping screens. Again I really hope this doesnt translate over to the Evo LTE. The T3 is really smooth on the other hand. I have a Transformer Prime and its very smooth as well.
http://www.intomobile.com/2012/04/05/htc-one-comparison/
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More benchmark comparison
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-x-vs-htc-one-s-benchmarking-war-03221385/
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aznmode said:
This might be a bit of good news. Not so sure how much the 720p LCD of the EVO 4G LTE will affect some of these test but I'm hoping not too far off from what the S gets. Sorry if this has been posted. Leaving work and didnt have much time to search.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/05/htc-one-x-vs-one-s/
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The Evo 4g LTE/HTC ONE XL are using MSM8960 which i think is better than the MSM8260A used in the ONE S. So they will handle the 720p resloution just fine.
I might be wrong though.
JoelZ9614 said:
have u not seen the benchmarks of the s4 pwning tegra 3 single thread and multi thread but then again benches dont really matter..tegra is usually good for gaming
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This man gets it!
GPU wise the Tegra3 will win the battle...most else is on the S4 side or at most a draw between the 2
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mnomaanw said:
The Evo 4g LTE/HTC ONE XL are using MSM8960 which i think is better than the MSM8260A used in the ONE S. So they will handle the 720p resloution just fine.
I might be wrong though.
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Not exactly right here...
The MSM8260A and MSM8960 are the exact same top to bottom except in one area, and thats the Modem supported. The 8960 is more of a world more chip supporting LTE, GSM/EDGE/GPRS, EVDO TD-SCDMA, DC-HSPA+, among a few others...while the 8260A only supports UMTS(DC-HSPA+, TD-SCDMA)...
clearer break down of all their SoC's is here:
https://developer.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
Though comparing the performance of the OneS to the OneX is not really going to give us a solid idea of what to expect out of the EVO 4G LTE...Display differences b/w the two devices would effect performance some. The best idea will come from the OneXL.
wow...world band support...
too bad the EVO 4G LTE doesn't seem to use a sim card. otherwise i'd be ordering mine asaaaaaaap!
Sorry, but most benchmarks out there seem to be really weird.
Antutu reports what we would expect, namely almost twice as good results for the 4cores. That's integer and float. This result makes perfect sense.
Also, for tests that use only a single core, the two are head to head with an edge for the Qualcomm.
So how in the world should the Qualcomm keep up with the Tegra in other multicore benchmarks ?
Here is something to consider:
The benchmarks claiming the same multicore performance of the two only use two cores. Not all 4.
Why? Because at the time of programming them, 4 cores did not exist and the programs just did the easy thing. Making code multi-threaded is difficult by itself. But making code for an arbitrary number of cores is even more difficult.
Only antutu does it.
There is no other explanation.
Face it.
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hachiroku said:
wow...world band support...
too bad the EVO 4G LTE doesn't seem to use a sim card. otherwise i'd be ordering mine asaaaaaaap!
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dont read into that much. its only the "supported" bands for the chip. still requires antennae's for each band and all that.
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fuzzifikation said:
Sorry, but most benchmarks out there seem to be really weird.
Antutu reports what we would expect, namely almost twice as good results for the 4cores. That's integer and float. This result makes perfect sense.
Also, for tests that use only a single core, the two are head to head with an edge for the Qualcomm.
So how in the world should the Qualcomm keep up with the Tegra in other multicore benchmarks ?
Here is something to consider:
The benchmarks claiming the same multicore performance of the two only use two cores. Not all 4.
Why? Because at the time of programming them, 4 cores did not exist and the programs just did the easy thing. Making code multi-threaded is difficult by itself. But making code for an arbitrary number of cores is even more difficult.
Only antutu does it.
There is no other explanation.
Face it.
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28nm Cortex-A15 vs 45nm Cortex-A9...
part of what you say is true but dont discount the S4 stomping the Tegra3 in some areas. b/c its not about the # of cores, theres a bunch more to it than that...
I'm more worried about battery life and how it handles being in standby
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dannyboyex said:
I'm more worried about battery life and how it handles being in standby
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Battery life is better than evo 3d IMO, both tegra and s4 have better battery life than s2 and s3...................................................
People... the S4 is fast; deal with it.
I really have no doubt that either phone will be fast. Definitely will be faster than the Evo 3d. In my case I'm more concern of how smooth its going to perform when it comes to scrolling. I think thats one area where android has not excelled yet and the tegra 3 IMO is the closest I've seen it, based on experience with my prime. Lots of talk went into how fast the Evo 3d processor was too before it came out and it was the reason I bought it and never bothered waiting for other devices. But the Evo 3d stock wasn't what I expected. A few months later the Samsung Epic touch came out and it was fast and smooth and handled multiple flash video on 1 page at a time without any problem. The other concern I have with Evo LTE is I will be most likely be using the device over hdmi. Not sure how well the S4 will perform. The demo Qualcomm had at CES was laggy (went to CES). My primes tegra 3 have proven to me that it can handle that very very well. It's super smooth and fast and has no degradation in performance and smoothness whatsoever over HDMI.
But I posted the OP to show that S4 is fast in hopes that the 720p screen will not hinder performance or smoothness as much. I'm really hoping so.
Ok now I'm convinced S4 will be on par with T3. See link below. The only thing we wont see are Tegra 3 optimized games.
http://phandroid.com/2012/04/10/att...k-gauntlet-dual-core-processor-holds-its-own/
From my understanding, the Tegra 3 is not LTE compatible. That seems to be the driving factor.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/29/2832546/nvidia-tegra-3-lte-problem-mwc-2012-report
coal686 said:
From my understanding, the Tegra 3 is not LTE compatible. That seems to be the driving factor.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/29/2832546/nvidia-tegra-3-lte-problem-mwc-2012-report
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Correct that's why ATT and sprint will get s4. I really wanted a t3 because my asus prime has it and its the fastest and smoothest tablet ive seen. But after seeing more videos of the s4 in action i think itll be just as great.
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Nice battery comparison. But I wonder how much the s4 screen came in to play. Roughly 1 hour and 22 minutes of test left the S with 84% battery and the One X with 69%.
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Nice battery comparison. But I wonder how much the s4 screen came in to play. Roughly 1 hour and 22 minutes of test left the S with 84% battery and the One X with 69%.