Obviously it's the most "powerful" in terms of pure processing power and GPU as far as Android tablets go. But is the problems worth not buying? I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here. My question is if I leave it stock would I have some stupid issue's? I dont use bluetooth or GPS on a tablet so..
I posted this on the OG transformer forum by accident.
I KNOW there is a new TF coming out in June that will fix these issue's... But as of NOW is this a safe buy if I won't be rooting ? I will still be getting the new one later.. But need a tablet and cannot see myself going to garbage Tegra2.
Is H.profile video decoded easily with the Tegra3 vs.the 2?
Is it worth buying....?
In a word.... yes
After ASUS fixes the problems with Wifi and WiFi + BT it will be a great buy. Before that, no.
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After ASUS fixes the problems with Wifi and WiFi + BT it will be a great buy. Before that, no.
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What problems with "WiFi" from what i've heard there are only WiFi+BT issues
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What problems with "WiFi" from what i've heard there are only WiFi+BT issues
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I think he was talking about poor wifi performance in some cases. I have a C10KAS that I'll hopefully return today since I can't do anything beyond 20 ft from the router. I'll try to land on a C20KAS which apparently of no issues at all on this.
@jamaicansolja: I dont get it either There are some people that have some issues with wifi stability as it seems. The same thing you see with any device in this format especially the ipad.
I didnt have any of those problems though. I always have about exactly the same connection as my phone (DesireHD, also made out of aluminum with plastic cut outs). (see attachment)
Should you get the prime? Its the best Tablet out there. So yeah go ahead I certainly am really happy with it. Of course that will change in the future, but atm there is nothing even close. And i dont think the ipad 3 will change that because iOS will stay iOS... But thats personal preference.
Same location, 7-8m away from the router (24ft?) 2 Walls in between.
phone:
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Jesus...another thread like this? really?
It's pretty crazy how people are posting on a forum for the tech savvy people but have no clue how to do a search.
This message board really needs some mods.
simple answer yes. just look at the thread in my signature called Positive transformer thread. all your worries will cease afterwards .
If you don't need to take handwritten notes on it, yes it is a very good tablet. I which, there was a digitizer pen that works on the Transformer Prime.
Look dude, what you have to understand is the XDA forums (at least for the prime) has a higher concentration of people who have for whatever reason gotten bad primes. This is most likely because they are looking for answers. The prime is FLYING off the shelf and people who are happy aren't going to be as vocal as people who aren't.
I'm on my second prime and both have been great. The HDMI out port died on my first one, however, I dropped it off the back of the couch onto my kids tricycle so that may have had something to do with it.
I have never had a wifi issue at all. I get full strength in most parts of my house (I have 1.5mbps DSL connection and speed test puts my connection at 1.2mbps). The GPS on it is hit or miss, my first one didn't really work but my second (C1 s/n) works a bit better. If you want a GPS that works on the road though......put your had in your pocket and take out your phone. I've never had any random reboots with either of them. In short I've never had any problems. Its the fastest tablet out there and the best on the market. The keyboard dock is what really gives its edge. I was without one for two days and contemplated getting another until I realized there wasn't one that did everything the prime did.
If enough people complain and send their primes in for GPS issues and the problem becomes a hassle for the company they will offer a fix....I think there was a thread on here saying as much.
BUY ONE!
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If you don't need to take handwritten notes on it, yes it is a very good tablet. I which, there was a digitizer pen that works on the Transformer Prime.
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Why shouldn't you use it for handwriting?
I actually ordered mine for handwriting.
It's a notebook computer (with the dock) and a tablet. There's none like it. I don't need GPS on it cause I have 10 other GPS devices. Wifi is fine on mine, not any weaker than my HTC evo 3d. The good part is it can be as smooth as fast as ipad2 with a custom rom. I'm running virtuous rom. I can't complain its more sluggish or slower than ipad2 now. Functionalities on the TFP just blow ipad dead in the water. Just the browser alone is enough reason to get the TFP over the ipad2. Text reflow, flash support, bookmarks sync with chrome on your pc, quick controls on the stock browser or ice browser+ make safari look so dated, dynamically request desktop view. Complete sweatness. I don't have to go in other details of ice and android's goodness. I purposely compare it to ipad2 cause that's the strongest contender to TFP. I don't think there's a better android tablet out there.
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the XDA forums (at least for the prime) has a higher concentration of people who have for whatever reason gotten bad primes.
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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Are you serious can you not read and comprehend a simple paragraph. I said that the XDA forums have a higher concentration of people who have problems with their primes because they come here looking for answers.....not that asus sent bad ones only to xda members.
You know because this is a tech forum and if people with electronics have issues they come to sites like these to seek answers.....therefore these forums could have a higher concentration of people with complaints. I didn't think that needed to be explained
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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I think you need to reread what he wrote since you clearly misunderstood. It happens to the best of us.
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Okay so I dont have it pre-ordered or anything basically waiting for Best Buy to get it back in stock.
Been seeing alot of the posts here, and was wondering if it is really worth the wait. It seems like alot of negatives are going on here concerning the prime and I wonder if it is really worth it or if I should look into a different tablet.
I mean is it as buggy and problematic as it seems ?
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I mean is it as buggy and problematic as it seems ?
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You'd best do a LOT of reading about this thing if you don't want your pocket picked.
in a nutshell, yes it's worth the wait, and no it's not as buggy as it seems to be on these forums. are there some manuf flaws from a rushed first production run? sure. do most other first generation/run devices have flaws like this? yes.
value is very subjective and it's going to depend on what you want from a tablet.
do you want cutting edge hardware that will be "king" for at least 4 months?
do you not care about proper gps functionality? (as in, are you going to use this as a standalone GPS device for navigating and while it's not connected to a wireless network)
do you want android?
do you want timely updates?
do you want something NOW?
if you answered yes to those questions, the prime is hands down the best tablet on the market.
personally, my prime works fine (aside from no gps lock, but A-GPS works perfectly fine for my usage), i have very little light bleed on the upper left, and will exchange that for another one once gamestop gets new stock in, but otherwise this thing is fast, solid, & gorgeous.
the kicker for the prime line in general tends to be the dock, i had one for the tf101 and i loved it, waiting for amazon to deliver my dock for the prime.
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Bull****.
Everytime I turn round there's a new thread with someone having MAJOR problems. The tablet isn't worth it to someone who has ANY clue as to the value of money.
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Bull****.
Everytime I turn round there's a new thread with someone having MAJOR problems. The tablet isn't worth it to someone who has ANY clue as to the value of money.
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Before you call BS on somebody's, IMHO very well argumented, opinion, have you considered:
1) Most people happy with their prime don't post "I'm so happy with my prime", only people having problems post in the forum.
2) Have you considered the prime install base vs. the number of thread stating problems. I agree that the prime has major hw issues if the install base is like only 500 units and there are 50 threads with problems (10% with defective units). But if the install base is 5,000 or 50,000 then only 1 to 0,1 % observes problems and almost 99% do not..
3) How many of the problems observed are in regards to human error or lack of knowledge? I've seen threads where people complain that the unit won't turn on because they haven't charged it or for what ever reason have gotten the unit into boot mode.
4)Some problems are attributed to ICS in general and not the prime.
I agree that the prime launch has been sub optimal and the first batch of primes has definitely generated a lot of static about hardware problems. I got mine exchanged for a new unit, and have not seen any of the problems mentioned on the forums.
OP: See adiliyo's post, I definitely agree on his views. I enjoy my Prime very much and with the keyboard, I rarely have a reason to boot my macbook. The UI is very smooth, it is absolutely a beast in regards to video playback, and the build quality is very good. With ICS the browser performance is very good and almost as fast as a desktop browser.
If you want to be sure to buy a tablet with no problems at all, then wait a few months after launch before you buy. Being first mover presents both unique problems but also unique rewards - like me having the prime in Denmark 5 weeks before hitting retail here.
It depends, the prime in itself is beautiful but there is no denying that it has some serious issues, namely GPS and WIFI.
GPS is irrelevant for me (even though it simply should work of course) but WIFI IS a serious issue. When close to the router and with no obstacles all is fine but performance degrades quickly once you move away from the router.
Check this video for a comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzCZc3pjtrA
And I can confirm these results with my prime (also owning the original transformer TF101).
Apart from WIFI, it truely is beautiful and worth the wait but if you plan to use wifi across the house, or in some other spots with lesser access, for streaming video, etc please think twice (or thrice) before geting it.
Worth to me. I did a little homework before I decided to buy a Prime. I knew the GPS would be a problem, but I didn't really need a 10" GPS anyway. So I went for it.
The wifi function is okay, no big issue. everything is good. Quite satisfied now.
I believe it is worth the wait. I read constantly while waiting for best buy to have them in stock online. I took into consideration the various problems individuals were having and when one became available, I purchased it. I have had it all but a week now and have seen zero issues in regards to wi-fi (signal strength matches my Atrix's whereever I am) and GPS works well enough that it locates my location close-enough. As another poster said, only those people who have seen issues have posted about them. I have zero complaints with mine, especially with the ICS update yesterday, and would recommend this unit to anyone seeking a great tablet.
I'd say it's worth it. I know looking on the forums might make some people a little nervous about shelling out $500 for the current Prime. But you need to keep in mind that forums are where people go WHEN they have problems. Obviously, people with issues are over-represented here.
That said, I would not say the TF201 is perfect. GPS seems clearly defective. No excuses on this one. If you need GPS, look elsewhere.
Aside from that, I don't see anything else that can be considered a major flaw. Some people have issues with Wifi, most do not (myself included, I get the same internet speed on my TF201 as I do on my gigabit wired desktop). As far as the other stuff (light bleed, dead pixels), it's not really out of the ordinary for LCD screens for a minority to have issues...read newegg reviews for practically any popular monitor and you'll see it, likewise over at apple (or other device) forums. People who are expecting LCD screen production to be perfect or for manufacturers to go over every pixel on every device are kidding themselves.
Thank you for some of the replys.
This is my thing, I know generally the fourms are where people are going to be crying about there devices.
Now I work in a tech support type job, so I know an opinion of something can be skewed when all you see is bad about stuff. now the other thing though is this. I see people posting issues about how doing regular firmware updates are causing serious issues with their Prime's.
I know its hands down on papaer the best tablet, but even with one of my friends who has one, first time he opened it out of box he did a fireware update and nearly bricked and then had to do the battery drain to fix the problem.
So I am alittle hesitant on the whole prime still. Which is why I am here on the fourms asking, basicly seeing, those who are "happy" who haven't had the problems, who don't seem to be those who are whining and crying and complaing about how Asus "stole my money", come forth and say something.
Oh and thanks adiliyo, your post seemed to at least be unbias, so thanks, also I too dont give a rats about the GPS, its a tablet, sure its nice to work, but not a big deal for me. Also ph0ton you as well thanks for the opinion.
Hopefully there will still be more replys still, cause I am still sadly on the fence about his.
I recieved one from the 1st batch (arrived on 23rd) and the only issue I have is weaker GPS than my XOOM, but I have never used the GPS on either. My Wifi is fine, and I absolutely love the tablet overall. I would buy it again in a second.
Guys!
I just sold my Galaxy tab 10.1 for the prime,but reading from this forum with GPS and WIFI problem...
Should i BUY IT or NOT?
Or wait for the next TABLET....
dmoney94 said:
Guys!
I just sold my Galaxy tab 10.1 for the prime,but reading from this forum with GPS and WIFI problem...
Should i BUY IT or NOT?
Or wait for the next TABLET....
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Get it. There are a lot of people on here, including myself, that love their primes.
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If I've helped you in any way... hit the "Thanks" button.
It is a great device that while it has a few issues here and there its nothing to throw the level of fits some do here. At very least give it a try and make your own judgements.
dmoney94 said:
Guys!
I just sold my Galaxy tab 10.1 for the prime,but reading from this forum with GPS and WIFI problem...
Should i BUY IT or NOT?
Or wait for the next TABLET....
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If you read through some of the longer threads you'll see references to "good" Prime's and "bad" Prime's. The loyalists will say their "good" Prime's are in the majority while those with issues will say the "bad" Prime's are. There have been Prime's in the first batch w/o issues and samples of the latest build with them. Some people have had to go through quite a few exchanges to get a Prime they're happy with while some got a "good" Prime from the first batch built on the first shot. Keep in mind that both "good" and "bad" are subjective. With that said, it's your call.
I would definitely get it. I have one and yes there was wifi and GPS issues but a recent update has fixed the wifi issue on my prime
Keep reading and do what's best for you. Its a divided community and you are bound to get flamed just for this post.
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Its a divided community
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Which, indirectly, is an answer unto itself.
who needs GPS?
Well, i decided to open my box. it's the new champagne version and as the wifi works (so far) the gps doesn't at all.. then again it's snowing here so it may not work until there's a nice, clear day. i'm giving mine the benefit of the doubt and we shall see over the coming weeks if it was a good decission or a bad one as i will end up making a thread about what issues i come across eventhough i haven't gotten even midway through a quarter of the threads based around this workhorse.
stay tuned. but as for me, even with the gps not being amazing, or even working... i'm still happy at this point
There is quite alot of complaining going on here. But dont let yourself be fooled by that. There are/were some issues with Primes, my guess is that its mostly early models that had some preproduction problems.
Most users here are very happy with their Primes myself included. My wifi is perfect wherever i am in our house, i could even use it in the garden if it werent -10° Celcius
In fact if i compare it with wifi analyzer to my phone its almost always a bit stronger. Also my GPS works pretty reasonable when i'm outside, getting a fix in under a minute, not the strongest but it works.
Everything else is just astounding. Browsing, gaming, reading books/comics ist just an amazing experience. Everything is smooth, battery is amazing (no .13 patch in europe yet), in fact i hardly ever power up my desktop pc anymore. High quality flash in fullscreen or even outputted to an HDTV is just nice.
Oh and i have a perfectly smooth and working n64 and psx with me now. All the time Wh00t!?
I really have nothing bad to say at this point. And btw, this is the first unit i got. No exchange was needed.
If you are comfortable dealing with bugs, exchanging the product several times until you receive a good working unit, receiving little to no support, being without the tablet during RMAs, and probable hardware issues which cannot be fixed with software, I say buy it.
Myself, I returned mine for something more stable, the acer A200. I'm waiting for either a fixed TF201 or a different quad core tablet.
I received a bad unit and might seem negative. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Get it, try it. If you like it, keep it. If not, return it. But, do NOT keep it past the return period if you actually want to return it.
Keep in mind that any future update may make you wish you had returned it.
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- If you want to use GPS with your tablet I would recommend waiting.
- If you do not have a pressing desire/need for a tablet right now I would recommend waiting.
Given those two qualifications I would say go for it but do so with open eyes. Know your return window and if your unit has problems, or you can not live with the limitations, then be sure to return it in time. Personally I am quite fond of my TP but it would be foolhardy to deny that many have had problems.
If you can wait till June/July then I would recommend waiting for the 700 series transformer. Chances are Asus will have learned something from the TP and will update the wireless. Additionally by then the tegra 3 chipset will have been around long enough for the supporting code to be better situated. Finally the reported 1920x1200 screen is very enticing for me.
Ignoring the 700 I am sure the other manufacturers are not sitting on their laurels either. It might be worth a wait to see what comes out.
Thank everybody for your comments....
Now its time for me to decide....
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Thank everybody for your comments....
Now its time for me to decide....
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Are you a betting man (or woman)? Now that your question's been answered, I'll bet you an accessory this post is up to four pages by this time tomorrow and never leaves the front page. Such is the emotion the Prime evokes.
BostonDan2 said:
If you are comfortable dealing with bugs, exchanging the product several times until you receive a good working unit, receiving little to no support, being without the tablet during RMAs, and probable hardware issues which cannot be fixed with software, I say buy it.
Myself, I returned mine for something more stable, the acer A200. I'm waiting for either a fixed TF201 or a different quad core tablet.
I received a bad unit and might seem negative. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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I couldn't have said that better myself. I would still give it a shot. Who knows, you may get a "Good Prime".
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- If you want to use GPS with your tablet I would recommend waiting.
- If you do not have a pressing desire/need for a tablet right now I would recommend waiting.
Given those two qualifications I would say go for it but do so with open eyes. Know your return window and if your unit has problems, or you can not live with the limitations, then be sure to return it in time. Personally I am quite fond of my TP but it would be foolhardy to deny that many have had problems.
If you can wait till June/July then I would recommend waiting for the 700 series transformer. Chances are Asus will have learned something from the TP and will update the wireless. Additionally by then the tegra 3 chipset will have been around long enough for the supporting code to be better situated. Finally the reported 1920x1200 screen is very enticing for me.
Ignoring the 700 I am sure the other manufacturers are not sitting on their laurels either. It might be worth a wait to see what comes out.
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Good post.
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If you read through some of the longer threads you'll see references to "good" Prime's and "bad" Prime's. The loyalists will say their "good" Prime's are in the majority while those with issues will say the "bad" Prime's are. There have been Prime's in the first batch w/o issues and samples of the latest build with them. Some people have had to go through quite a few exchanges to get a Prime they're happy with while some got a "good" Prime from the first batch built on the first shot. Keep in mind that both "good" and "bad" are subjective. With that said, it's your call.
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Nvm...lmao. just take a look St The positive Transformer thread in my signature. But remember OP,
NOTHING IS AS GOOD AS IT SEEMS AND NOTHING IS AS BAD AS IT SEEMS. SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN REALITY FALLS!
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Nvm...lmao. just take a look St The positive Transformer thread in my signature. But remember OP,
NOTHING IS AS GOOD AS IT SEEMS AND NOTHING IS AS BAD AS IT SEEMS. SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN REALITY FALLS!
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Janet said it best. If you don't need a tablet right now, there's zero harm in waiting. Hopefully Asus will work through the issues and a Prime purchased in the future will be more stable. If not, there are other tablets coming out so there will be something to compare to. Hopefully at MWC on the 27th manufacturers will do more than have a beauty pageant and actually announce some release dates.
If you are going to give it a try - make sure you buy from a store with a good return policy. 30 days, no shipping back fees and no restocking fees.
I have returned 2 and will return the 3rd. All of them had problems.
From my experience, I was amazed when it was advertised. I bought it, wasnt satisfied, exchanged it, wasnt satisfied again, in process of exchanging it, then the update screwed my wife's prime, so I returned that hers and cancalled mine for a full refund. We choose to wait for the prime to get its bugs out or a newer or better one to come out that we can try out and see if it something we can rely on.
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If you are comfortable dealing with bugs, exchanging the product several times until you receive a good working unit, receiving little to no support, being without the tablet during RMAs, and probable hardware issues which cannot be fixed with software, I say buy it.
Myself, I returned mine for something more stable, the acer A200. I'm waiting for either a fixed TF201 or a different quad core tablet.
I received a bad unit and might seem negative. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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+1 the future does not look good for this particular model of a new line comes out maybe then it would be worth it if they get QC under control with the processor.
I did some research before I bought the TF201 and i believed the prime is the best andriod tablet on the market. Just to buy it and find out it has all these issues.
The most resent one for me is the Camera having the green scrambled screen. This company has really let me down so my question is...is there any better tablet out there? Is there any better company excluding apple lol i hate them.
I know the TF700 is coming out but i thought i was reading something today that said it has problems too, i only hope that was my imagination. Anyways what do you guys think? The TF201 has great specs but im really disappointed with the quality and build. Is there something better out there?
I have no idea what you are talking about. My Prime has been nothing but fantastic...Maybe you are thinking of an Acer tablet perhaps?
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I have no idea what you are talking about. My Prime has been nothing but fantastic...Maybe you are thinking of an Acer tablet perhaps?
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No im not thinking of acer. I am talking ASUS Transformer Prime TF201. I have new one and it has some issues. The worse being the green camera...for me at least. Im glad you have a good tablet i guess i wish i was as lucky as you. But check this q&a section you will see people are complaining about their camera.
I have no problems with my Prime as well. It hardly ever leaves my side. There's a link on my signature of the Positive Transformer Prime thread.. I suggest reading that thread as well. Negative threads unfortunately over populate our forum which is normal.. People mostly come here not only to gain more knowledge and better there experience with there devices but to solve there own issues... not to praise it. But majority of owners are quite happy with there purchases.
Edit: The next update should hopefully fix the issue you are having with the camera. Honestly I've had several kinds of tablets and they all have there issues... Along with the issues you are having with the green screen on your camera. I had that on my galaxy tab 10.1 and experienced it also with my Acer A500.. Firmware updates fixed them right up.
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I have no problems with my Prime as well. It hardly ever leaves my side. There's a link on my signature of the Positive Transformer Prime thread.. I suggest reading that thread as well. Negative threads unfortunately over populate our forum which is normal.. People mostly come here not only to gain more knowledge and better there experience with there devices but to solve there own issues... not to praise it. But majority of owners are quite happy with there purchases.
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I read the positive forum before i bought my tab. It really helped me make my decision. Like i said the tab has great spec, the tegra and all that..but has very bad build and quality like common i spent over 500 for this device and in less than a month the camera stops working now i have to do RMA for another month. Its just all so disappointing.
I would wait to RMA it until after this up coming update. It may very well fix your issue. It should be any day now.
Edit: I feel for you but just because you spent 500 bucks doesn't mean its going to be perfect. Maybe in a perfect world yes. All the different tablets I've ever owned have had some form of issue. Sorry to say paying a premium isn't going to exempt you from SW/HW issues.
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all I have to say is, how did you read that the TF-700 aka infinity pad has some problems also. lmfao. its not even released yet. not even tech sites have gotten their hands on it to review. only possible problems would be the 4g version. it will use the S4 chip, which is in very short supply right now due to manufacturing issues. so it will likely be delayed.
p.s. My Prime works great also. if yours have a cam issue then RMA it or exchange it.
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all I have to say is, how did you read that the TF-700 aka infinity pad has some problems also. lmfao. its not even released yet. not even tech sites have gotten their hands on it to review. only possible problems would be the 4g version. it will use the S4 chip, which is in very short supply right now due to manufacturing issues. so it will likely be delayed.
p.s. My Prime works great also. if yours have a cam issue then RMA it or exchange it.
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This is the link about the TF700: http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/asus-tablets/38975-tf700-pricing.html
and maybe that's what the person was trying to say...but i really don't know anything.
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I would wait to RMA it until after this up coming update. It may very well fix your issue. It should be any day now.
Edit: I feel for you but just because you spent 500 bucks doesn't mean its going to be perfect. Maybe in a perfect world yes. All the different tablets I've ever owned have had some form of issue. Sorry to say paying a premium isn't going to exempt you from SW/HW issues.
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I understand what you mean about things not having to be perfect. I just felt like maybe since it's that expensive, it should have certain things that have no flaws e.g. the screen...i would think that there shouldn't be any dead pixels?...like some things should have some standards? But i totally understand it can't be perfect.
In spite of some of the replies here the Prime is plagued with problems. It's true that you will hear from more people with issues on forums about a product than those who are satisfied. But the shear number of complaints in regards to the Prime on several forums indicate to me that it is indeed a device with design flaws and quality control issues. Even in interviews ASUS representatives have said that the metal back cover cause signal issues. I believe many of those who claim no wifi issues never use their Prime far enough from a router to realize how weak the range is. I am presently at a hotel with wifi. My smartphone and my wife's smartphone get great wifi connection. I gave up watching videos on my Prime because its constantly buffering. This is my 3rd Prime. All have had basically the same signal issues. Others have been through more than 3 Primes. Some have found one OK enough to stick with after trying several. For someone to say you must be talking about an Acer and not an ASUS is ridiculous considering even ASUS has admitted there is a design flaw. They all have the same metal back. If it wasn't an issue why would ASUS change the design on the back cover of the TF700 to include a plastic cover over the antenna? Why not continue with the pretty all metal cover if it did not cause any issues? And besides the signal issues there are other issues that ASUS is trying to resolve with upcoming firmware updates. You are right to be concerned with ASUS not Acer as one has suggested you must own.
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I completely agree with you and i respect the opinions of the people who have commented here. My main concern though is that: is there something better?
Personaly there issnt better unless you go for appel. And I dont know if its really any better.
I have over 300 yards range on my TP wifi.(open space). 0 gps signal but then the dongle works so im ok with that.. I'm just finished watching a 1080p mkv file over wifi with no buffering or any hickups. And I'm a good 20yard from the ap,
And no matter what you pick, it doesnt have a battery powered clip on keyboard with full size usb, SDcard reader and many more
The prime IS the best android tablet on the market atm.. sadly some have issues..
I think 80% of the faulty TP owners are on this forum. I have spoke to many TP owners and noone have issues, and thought I was the only one with a faulty gps.
Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
It Seems to be in the Manner One calls "BAD"
I am on my second one. First one was bad out of the box. Replaced it & I have only experienced a few of the reported problems. Specifically:
1. All but inoperative GPS -- For what I wanted GPS for, the onboard unit would not have worked adequately any way -- External Bluetooth unit fixed that.
2. Weak WiFi. My biggest complaint. Works, but range is somewhat less than I desire.
3. Somewhat slow data transfer between computer & Transformer -- Liveable, but slower than I desire.
4. Prior to JellyBean, I experienced a "few" spontaneous program shutdowns. I never got ANRs, just restarts of very few apps. None since JB.
I read most of the replies on this forum, and my experience has been overall positive (not OUTSTANDING) with the TF201 when compared to the descriptions (horror stories) of some other users.
If I had to do it over, and knowing what I now know, (I really hate to say this) I would buy an IPad. STOP!! No rock throwing, please. There is only ONE reason I would commit such an act (I LIKE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT APPLE OR ITS PRODUCTS). The only possible reason I would do so, is because of the FOREFLIGHT app (for aviation). There is nothing Android that measures up to it.
Well, there you have it. If your expectations are unrealistically high, you possibly will not be satisfied. If you are willing to overlook some few deficiencies, your experience can be positive.
Hope my ramblings give you some glimmer of hope.
Jerry in Anchorage
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I am on my second one. First one was bad out of the box. Replaced it & I have only experienced a few of the reported problems. Specifically:
1. All but inoperative GPS -- For what I wanted GPS for, the onboard unit would not have worked adequately any way -- External Bluetooth unit fixed that.
2. Weak WiFi. My biggest complaint. Works, but range is somewhat less than I desire.
3. Somewhat slow data transfer between computer & Transformer -- Liveable, but slower than I desire.
4. Prior to JellyBean, I experienced a "few" spontaneous program shutdowns. I never got ANRs, just restarts of very few apps. None since JB.
I read most of the replies on this forum, and my experience has been overall positive (not OUTSTANDING) with the TF201 when compared to the descriptions (horror stories) of some other users.
If I had to do it over, and knowing what I now know, (I really hate to say this) I would buy an IPad. STOP!! No rock throwing, please. There is only ONE reason I would commit such an act (I LIKE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT APPLE OR ITS PRODUCTS). The only possible reason I would do so, is because of the FOREFLIGHT app (for aviation). There is nothing Android that measures up to it.
Well, there you have it. If your expectations are unrealistically high, you possibly will not be satisfied. If you are willing to overlook some few deficiencies, your experience can be positive.
Hope my ramblings give you some glimmer of hope.
Jerry in Anchorage
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That sounds pretty bad in fairness...
Given the price of the unit (£400) you would expect it to be fast and.. wifi/gps to work!
Hrmm.. This is problematic. I've not yet actually revived the unit yet so I've got to consider carefully if its worth opening or just sending back closed for a full refund (if I can..)
I will absolutely NOt be trading my Prime for the 700..I will be trading it for the Nexus 10!
Same here...
Mine is going back to amazon for a full refund. Printed the return label and refund barcode late last night. droping the box by ups today.
Ahhh and yes... I'm getting a Nexus 10 too :victory:
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Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
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I don't think you made a mistake. In addition to the attachable keyboard, you've got the much longer battery life, a USB and a full-sized SD slot. On the Prime itself, you have micro HDMI and Micro-SD. You've got some apps that will run in floating, re-sizable windows (Overskreen browser and Stick-IT media player). You can install widgets. You can mount the entire filesystem when connecting to a PC without installing some silly program. You've got multiple sources for getting apps and less expensively than the fruit-flavored alternative. On top of all this, the Prime has a more robust processor than the iPad2.
No, you didn't make a mistake.
There are a small number of specific apps where the iPad is clearly the better choice. These tend to be nichey.
You're going to love your Prime. Mine's great.
Hey op, since you've had a ipad 2 before and know how it performs, I think you'll know very soon if you have made a mistake or not.
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Hey op, since you've had a ipad 2 before and know how it performs, I think you'll know very soon if you have made a mistake or not.
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Well thats.. Vague?
Care to eloberate.
Found someone to buy my Prime tomorrow, enough to trade for a Nexus 10.
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Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
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you sound like a troll with this question. However since I made the leap from Ipad 2 to tf201 I will say you need balls of steel to buy a transformer prime. If you cant tell by looking at the *****ing going on here, there are problems that Ipad users will not appreciate. If you want a project to occupy you time and mind get a prime. if you dont know what fastboot means steer clear.
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you sound like a troll with this question. However since I made the leap from Ipad 2 to tf201 I will say you need balls of steel to buy a transformer prime. If you cant tell by looking at the *****ing going on here, there are problems that Ipad users will not appreciate. If you want a project to occupy you time and mind get a prime. if you dont know what fastboot means steer clear.
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I assure you that's not my intention at all. Personally Im quite a fan of the Android OS (Most of my phones have been android, and Im rocking a Galaxy Note with PA right now and its fantastic)
As for things like Fastboot I've not really used it for quite a while (Since I had a Nexus 1, great phone But are you saying that most of the issues can be migrated with rooting/3rd party ROM's?
If that's the case then I'm comfortable enough going down that root but given that most of the *****ing here seems to be hardware related issues (I've read things about the Wifi/GPS don't work, apparently because of the casing..?) And things like slow I/O I'm somewhat confused about how re-flashed ROM (Although I've seen things that Jellybean also can make marked improvements in both stability and speed, but then you lose flash apparently?!)
There seems to be a lot of conflicting information floating about, and I appropriated that by the nature of forums that people are going to post to help with faults rather than "My phone is great!... Carry on!"..
Im just trying to build a balanced picture in my mind so if I should "take the risk"
Well it looks like my Tablet isn't going to arrive today so I guess I have the weekend to mull over it.
Still torn between if I should accept the device and run with it, or send it it back and hold out for the Nexus 10 (And with luck, get a keyboard/cover style solution to it)
Its just the lack of a SD card on it that's making me hesitate.
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Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
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#1 what is a Prime 2? There is only one Transformer Prime....
#2 I think you should get an ipad, just for the fact you are folding under peer pressure.
I have had my Prime since Day #1, picked it up at a game stop with preorder, I was the 1st one in the store on release day. I have loved it since day one, yes it is not 100% (Gps is weak, got the dongle now) but no products are ever 100% what everyone wants. I did not buy it for the GPS, it was more of a feature than a need.
I love my TF201 w/keyboard and all the extras that apple users don't have. (sd, usb, etc...) I will not be trading or selling it off until it is time for a new one and at that time hope Asus or someone is still making it with a detachable keyboard.
Again, I think you should send it back so you can get your Ipad with the app you like. (good Luck) :fingers-crossed:
Just one year after, the Prime development is dead. Two roms have been updated a month ago and much appreciated work on them. But that's about it. What was once the tablet of the future, Asus made it a flop, A $500 flop at that. How poor, I'll never buy another Asus tablet or PC again. I had mine since day one and have no problems with. I wish everyone could say that.
Thank you for your contribution. We definitely needed another one of these threads.
Long live the Prime!
Yes, as said before, this is the problem with people who jump on these forums and fill it with non-sense, gripe and make an atmosphere of uncertainty and unthankfulness.. Yes, thanks for the positive outlook indeed.
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This is not true. lilstevie and tux_mind are VERY close to perfecting an Ubuntu dual boot. Think about it, Volume Up to boot Android; Volume Down to boot Ubuntu. That would be the coolest thing in the history of things. This is what I have been waiting for since 2008. Sooo... STFU.
Prime is dead
Mine truly is----at ASUS RMA facility for the third time since purchase
first 2 times wif-bluetooth issue in shop for 1.5 months
this time green camera
Truly a 500$ 650 if you count the dock peice of c***
There are very few primes around in my country so i don't care if its dead, i have a special device and its working perfectly.
But i think my next tablet (i hope the prime works for a long time) will be one with a digitizer for pens. Like the galaxy note 10.1. In my situation i prefer that over a keyboard.
Long live the prime.
I've had mine since day one. Never had reason to complain about it at all. Two friends have bought them after seeing mine. Still use it every day. I wish I had two.
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I really like mine it replaced my laptop ... i also like the build quality. Samsung plastics are not my kind of thing. Drawbacks are wifi performance and the system to connect tablet and keyboard could use some rethinking.
wifi performance
Thom4s said:
I really like mine it replaced my laptop ... i also like the build quality. Samsung plastics are not my kind of thing. Drawbacks are wifi performance and the system to connect tablet and keyboard could use some rethinking.
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I too had WIFI problems but since I purchased a MyFi (3G 4G) from Verizon I get 4 Bars where ever I go in my area.
andrewjt19 said:
Yes, as said before, this is the problem with people who jump on these forums and fill it with non-sense, gripe and make an atmosphere of uncertainty and unthankfulness.. Yes, thanks for the positive outlook indeed.
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This person is entitled to their oppinion, and has valid points, just because you do not agree doesnt give you the right to be critical or condescending.
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I think that the Development is very slow mostly because around a 50% of users have their Bootloader locked, so lots of people couldn't use other roms, kernels or mods (and of course if a user wants to start a develop and has it's Prime locked, simply he can't).
I bought the tf201 a month ago because I didn't know anything about Bootloader, I thought that I could flash a kernel for OC or something similar. I try to unlock and I couldn't, and now I'm happy with it, because my tf201 died a week ago. When it returns from the RMA, I'll try to sell it. That's all, and this is the last ASUS tablet I'll buy.
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Just one year after, the Prime development is dead. Two roms have been updated a month ago and much appreciated work on them. But that's about it. What was once the tablet of the future, Asus made it a flop, A $500 flop at that. How poor, I'll never buy another Asus tablet or PC again. I had mine since day one and have no problems with. I wish everyone could say that.
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I find it interesting as to how much people are influenced by the opinions and experiences of others. In one breath you say you'll never buy another Asus tablet again and in the next you say you've had your Prime for over a year and have had no problems with it.
jordache16 said:
I find it interesting as to how much people are influenced by the opinions and experiences of others. In one breath you say you'll never buy another Asus tablet again and in the next you say you've had your Prime for over a year and have had no problems with it.
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Let me help you out a little, jordache. I'm quite happy with my Prime. I've not had problems with it. I have several Wireless APs at my home, so it's saturated with signal. As a result, I've not had problems with the wifi. I've chosen not to Root or Unlock my Prime, so I've not had the headaches there that others have had. As the features go (HDMI, Micro-SD, SD, USB, additional battery in keyboard dock), the Prime is top notch. I'd still take it over an iPad any day of the week.
Having said all of that, Asus's post-sale hardware support is terrible. So terrible that I probably won't buy another Asus product. I managed to lose a couple of rubber feet on the dock. When I inquired about getting some replacement feet, Asus wanted me to do an RMA on the dock. I'm not impressed.
randalltroy said:
This person is entitled to their oppinion, and has valid points, just because you do not agree doesnt give you the right to be critical or condescending.
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The original post in this thread is the equivalent to someone standing up in the middle of a conference on economics and yelling "I LIKE BANANAS".
Sure, they have every right to like bananas, but it isn't helpful, it's attention-seeking and is essentially pointless.
Go eat bananas if you like them. No one cares.
jordache16 said:
I find it interesting as to how much people are influenced by the opinions and experiences of others. In one breath you say you'll never buy another Asus tablet again and in the next you say you've had your Prime for over a year and have had no problems with it.
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That is correct because my bluetooth sucks, my wireless sucks and should be much better than it is. No other issues besides that. I was just stating a fact that there is not much development for the tablet anymore. That's all I was saying, take it the way you wish but we are all allowed opinions here. thank you
The truth of the matter IMO is that people have come to expect too much. It's the "where's my update" syndrome where people want something new ever other week. Things evolve so fast that yes, a one year old device is practically ancient history. And Asus supported this device for much longer and through many more updates than most other manufacturers do. Take my Motorola Droid 3....please! Seriously my Droid 3 was abandoned by Motorola almost as soon as it was released. My original Droid Came with Android 2.0 then it got 2.1 and 2.2 from Motorola and then 2.3.7 via Cyanogen Mod 7.2 but once on 2.x, always on 2.x. On the other hand on the Prime we went from 3.x to 4.0 to 4.1 and will probably see 4.2 which is really not bad at all. It should also be capable of running future versions of custom ROMs....if the developers keep working on it. But really we have to expect that they will eventually move on too. But these days a year is almost an eternity for a mobile device.
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The original post in this thread is the equivalent to someone standing up in the middle of a conference on economics and yelling "I LIKE BANANAS".
Sure, they have every right to like bananas, but it isn't helpful, it's attention-seeking and is essentially pointless.
Go eat bananas if you like them. No one cares.
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Yes and another no brain response. I was just stating a fact.. don't like tough sh*t. I love my Prime, if I didn't I would have sold it long ago for something better. I was just stating that development has slowed down to a halt.. nothing to do with bananas !. Gezzzz
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Yes and another no brain response. I was just stating a fact.. don't like tough sh*t. I love my Prime, if I didn't I would have sold it long ago for something better. I was just stating that development has slowed down to a halt.. nothing to do with bananas !. Gezzzz
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I don't see it so much as slowing down, more like we have got to the limits of what we can achieve with what we have.
When 4.2 arrives I'm sure you will see some more dev work going on and also there is cyanogenmod which updates nightly if you really want to update regularly.
There is only so much you can do based on the stock rom.
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Yes and another no brain response. I was just stating a fact.. don't like tough sh*t. I love my Prime, if I didn't I would have sold it long ago for something better. I was just stating that development has slowed down to a halt.. nothing to do with bananas !. Gezzzz
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So lets get this straight, you "love" your Prime but you will not be buying another Asus product again. Can you please explain?