I did some research before I bought the TF201 and i believed the prime is the best andriod tablet on the market. Just to buy it and find out it has all these issues.
The most resent one for me is the Camera having the green scrambled screen. This company has really let me down so my question is...is there any better tablet out there? Is there any better company excluding apple lol i hate them.
I know the TF700 is coming out but i thought i was reading something today that said it has problems too, i only hope that was my imagination. Anyways what do you guys think? The TF201 has great specs but im really disappointed with the quality and build. Is there something better out there?
I have no idea what you are talking about. My Prime has been nothing but fantastic...Maybe you are thinking of an Acer tablet perhaps?
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I have no idea what you are talking about. My Prime has been nothing but fantastic...Maybe you are thinking of an Acer tablet perhaps?
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No im not thinking of acer. I am talking ASUS Transformer Prime TF201. I have new one and it has some issues. The worse being the green camera...for me at least. Im glad you have a good tablet i guess i wish i was as lucky as you. But check this q&a section you will see people are complaining about their camera.
I have no problems with my Prime as well. It hardly ever leaves my side. There's a link on my signature of the Positive Transformer Prime thread.. I suggest reading that thread as well. Negative threads unfortunately over populate our forum which is normal.. People mostly come here not only to gain more knowledge and better there experience with there devices but to solve there own issues... not to praise it. But majority of owners are quite happy with there purchases.
Edit: The next update should hopefully fix the issue you are having with the camera. Honestly I've had several kinds of tablets and they all have there issues... Along with the issues you are having with the green screen on your camera. I had that on my galaxy tab 10.1 and experienced it also with my Acer A500.. Firmware updates fixed them right up.
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I have no problems with my Prime as well. It hardly ever leaves my side. There's a link on my signature of the Positive Transformer Prime thread.. I suggest reading that thread as well. Negative threads unfortunately over populate our forum which is normal.. People mostly come here not only to gain more knowledge and better there experience with there devices but to solve there own issues... not to praise it. But majority of owners are quite happy with there purchases.
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I read the positive forum before i bought my tab. It really helped me make my decision. Like i said the tab has great spec, the tegra and all that..but has very bad build and quality like common i spent over 500 for this device and in less than a month the camera stops working now i have to do RMA for another month. Its just all so disappointing.
I would wait to RMA it until after this up coming update. It may very well fix your issue. It should be any day now.
Edit: I feel for you but just because you spent 500 bucks doesn't mean its going to be perfect. Maybe in a perfect world yes. All the different tablets I've ever owned have had some form of issue. Sorry to say paying a premium isn't going to exempt you from SW/HW issues.
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all I have to say is, how did you read that the TF-700 aka infinity pad has some problems also. lmfao. its not even released yet. not even tech sites have gotten their hands on it to review. only possible problems would be the 4g version. it will use the S4 chip, which is in very short supply right now due to manufacturing issues. so it will likely be delayed.
p.s. My Prime works great also. if yours have a cam issue then RMA it or exchange it.
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all I have to say is, how did you read that the TF-700 aka infinity pad has some problems also. lmfao. its not even released yet. not even tech sites have gotten their hands on it to review. only possible problems would be the 4g version. it will use the S4 chip, which is in very short supply right now due to manufacturing issues. so it will likely be delayed.
p.s. My Prime works great also. if yours have a cam issue then RMA it or exchange it.
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This is the link about the TF700: http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/asus-tablets/38975-tf700-pricing.html
and maybe that's what the person was trying to say...but i really don't know anything.
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I would wait to RMA it until after this up coming update. It may very well fix your issue. It should be any day now.
Edit: I feel for you but just because you spent 500 bucks doesn't mean its going to be perfect. Maybe in a perfect world yes. All the different tablets I've ever owned have had some form of issue. Sorry to say paying a premium isn't going to exempt you from SW/HW issues.
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I understand what you mean about things not having to be perfect. I just felt like maybe since it's that expensive, it should have certain things that have no flaws e.g. the screen...i would think that there shouldn't be any dead pixels?...like some things should have some standards? But i totally understand it can't be perfect.
In spite of some of the replies here the Prime is plagued with problems. It's true that you will hear from more people with issues on forums about a product than those who are satisfied. But the shear number of complaints in regards to the Prime on several forums indicate to me that it is indeed a device with design flaws and quality control issues. Even in interviews ASUS representatives have said that the metal back cover cause signal issues. I believe many of those who claim no wifi issues never use their Prime far enough from a router to realize how weak the range is. I am presently at a hotel with wifi. My smartphone and my wife's smartphone get great wifi connection. I gave up watching videos on my Prime because its constantly buffering. This is my 3rd Prime. All have had basically the same signal issues. Others have been through more than 3 Primes. Some have found one OK enough to stick with after trying several. For someone to say you must be talking about an Acer and not an ASUS is ridiculous considering even ASUS has admitted there is a design flaw. They all have the same metal back. If it wasn't an issue why would ASUS change the design on the back cover of the TF700 to include a plastic cover over the antenna? Why not continue with the pretty all metal cover if it did not cause any issues? And besides the signal issues there are other issues that ASUS is trying to resolve with upcoming firmware updates. You are right to be concerned with ASUS not Acer as one has suggested you must own.
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I completely agree with you and i respect the opinions of the people who have commented here. My main concern though is that: is there something better?
Personaly there issnt better unless you go for appel. And I dont know if its really any better.
I have over 300 yards range on my TP wifi.(open space). 0 gps signal but then the dongle works so im ok with that.. I'm just finished watching a 1080p mkv file over wifi with no buffering or any hickups. And I'm a good 20yard from the ap,
And no matter what you pick, it doesnt have a battery powered clip on keyboard with full size usb, SDcard reader and many more
The prime IS the best android tablet on the market atm.. sadly some have issues..
I think 80% of the faulty TP owners are on this forum. I have spoke to many TP owners and noone have issues, and thought I was the only one with a faulty gps.
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I am a noobie so please pardon my ignorance. This is my first tablet. It was my Christmas. I have read many posts here and tried to find answers about my problems. My GPS doen't work and it reboots a lot. Wifi is slow, but usable. some people say Asus will fix it but they said GPS is not supposed to work. My friend has a Samsung tablet and his works. I'm getting worried.
Other people say it is great, but maybe I just don't understand. The great thing I see is the water splashing on the screen in Riptide. I'd rather have GPS like my friend. Is it normal to buy a tablet and then find out it does not do what it is supposed to do and have so many problems? Is there really something better coming out soon? I don't like mine but would if everything worked good.
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I am a noobie so please pardon my ignorance. This is my first tablet. It was my Christmas. I have read many posts here and tried to find answers about my problems. My GPS doen't work and it reboots a lot. Wifi is slow, but usable. some people say Asus will fix it but they said GPS is not supposed to work. My friend has a Samsung tablet and his works. I'm getting worried.
Other people say it is great, but maybe I just don't understand. The great thing I see is the water splashing on the screen in Riptide. I'd rather have GPS like my friend. Is it normal to buy a tablet and then find out it does not do what it is supposed to do and have so many problems? Is there really something better coming out soon? I don't like mine but would if everything worked good.
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Are you even old enough to drive?
tsata said:
I am a noobie so please pardon my ignorance. This is my first tablet. It was my Christmas. I have read many posts here and tried to find answers about my problems. My GPS doen't work and it reboots a lot. Wifi is slow, but usable. some people say Asus will fix it but they said GPS is not supposed to work. My friend has a Samsung tablet and his works. I'm getting worried.
Other people say it is great, but maybe I just don't understand. The great thing I see is the water splashing on the screen in Riptide. I'd rather have GPS like my friend. Is it normal to buy a tablet and then find out it does not do what it is supposed to do and have so many problems? Is there really something better coming out soon? I don't like mine but would if everything worked good.
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Did your Prime come with ICS (The latest Android software)? If it did not and you had to update the tablet once you brought it home, doing a factory reset might do the trick to help solve your problems. Just a thought.
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I am a noobie so please pardon my ignorance. This is my first tablet. It was my Christmas. I have read many posts here and tried to find answers about my problems. My GPS doen't work and it reboots a lot. Wifi is slow, but usable. some people say Asus will fix it but they said GPS is not supposed to work. My friend has a Samsung tablet and his works. I'm getting worried.
Other people say it is great, but maybe I just don't understand. The great thing I see is the water splashing on the screen in Riptide. I'd rather have GPS like my friend. Is it normal to buy a tablet and then find out it does not do what it is supposed to do and have so many problems? Is there really something better coming out soon? I don't like mine but would if everything worked good.
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Best to return it and get a full refund there will be a better one coming out. WiFi and GPS are supposed to be addressed in the newer Prime TF700T plus it has a better screen.
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Best to return it and get a full refund there will be a better one coming out. WiFi and GPS are supposed to be addressed in the newer Prime TF700T plus it has a better screen.
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You neglected to mention you won't see it on store shelves for a least the best part of 5-6 months.
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Are you even old enough to drive?
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Are you trying to be funny or just rude. What does driving have to do with it.
I found you in other posts. You are the one that said
"Also just got off the phone with the ASUS Engineering department and they are aware that the backing is whats causing the issue with the GPS signal I finally got to speak with an engineer after jumping through 100 hoops and explaining to them that I disassembled one of the Primes and it locked onto a GPS signal and navigated from point A to point B with no problems with the backing off of it."
I don't think it would operate while disassembled, from the pictures of the tear down. So, you're probably not much help if you're not telling the truth.
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You neglected to mention you won't see it on store shelves for a least the best part of 5-6 months.
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yeah not only 5 - 6 months but it will be 100 pounds more expensive when it does come out
Thank you everyone for trying to help. I've done the updates and resets but it didn't fix anything. I will have to return it soon before it is too late. I think I had rather wait for a better one or have something slower and not as pretty that works.
Hello newbie you came to the wrong forum, this forum is not gonna help you with anything,you come here only if you
1- complaint
2- write negative stuff
3- Tell everybody that you are returning your prime
4-That ASUS is the worst company in the world
5-Never ask for help,JUST COMPLAINT
6-If you don't own the prime you complaint even harder
7- YOU ARE TROLL
8-WRITE NONSENSE
If you don't do any of the above you will be laugh at as you are seeing
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You neglected to mention you won't see it on store shelves for a least the best part of 5-6 months.
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TF700T comes out Q2
Q2 is April, May, June
Thats also how long before complete interest is lost in the TF201 as it will be obsolete as a mid range product. Its a far better option to get the better TF700T also it will be the flagship model.
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TF700T comes out Q2
Q2 is April, May, June
Thats also how long before complete interest is lost in the TF201 as it will be obsolete as a mid range product. Its a far better option to get the better TF700T also it will be the flagship model.
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We get it, you don't like the 201 , firstly it will not be obsolete as its part of the prime range with the TF700. Asus have said this. How long do you expect it it stay the flagship model?. I can buy the 201 now for £500. You are going to wait at least 4 months with no tablet only to pay £600 after everyone else has had theirs for months. Of course its only a minor update really, still just a tegra 3 tablet and tegra 4 will be out 2 to 5 months after the TF700. So expect the transformer 3 within 6 months of the TF700. Yeah your super flagship model won't be flagship for long and chances are the transformer 3 will be quite a big spec jump
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TF700T comes out Q2
Q2 is April, May, June
Thats also how long before complete interest is lost in the TF201 as it will be obsolete as a mid range product. Its a far better option to get the better TF700T also it will be the flagship model.
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It's been stated that release date is the ass end of Q2 i.e June. Even then it won't be widely available and going by ASUS' track record there will be delays.
They released this tablet knowing it had issues, they rushed this tablet to the market and most of us feel cheated! Where is the "Persistent Perfection"? It is their company motto! We need to do this to get them to realize their mistakes!
We can all agree that this tablet is plagued with issues, Big or Small; Noticeable or Not; Software or Hardware; Customer Support or Communication.
Known issues we need to stand up for! Whether you experience them or not!:
BLUETOOTH INCOMPATIBLE WITH WIFI!
WEAK/SLOW WIFI!
GPS NON FUNCTIONING!
SCREEN BLEED!
MELTING/OVERHEATING CHARGERS
UNKNOWN SERIAL #'s!
RANDOM LOCKUPS/REBOOTS!
LESS THAN ACCEPTABLE SUPPORT!
HORRIBLE QUALITY CONTROL!
TERRIBLE RMA EXPERIENCES!
DEAD PIXELS!
DUST UNDER YOUR SCREEN!
ETC!
Then to top it all off they are now dedicating all their resources to multiple new tablets (7000t 3000t, 3g prime, Memo, and the Padphone), instead of doing what is right and fixing the first one!
THE GOAL IS TO ATTACK UNTIL THEY RELEASE SOME SORT OF REPLACEMENT/REFUND/EXCHANGE PROGRAM!
We need YOU to Tweet, Comment, and Sign the Petition
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
Comment!
Comment their other pages!
Twitter!
Sign the Petition! ( I need someone to write up a really good petition letter that gets sent to 16 different emails each time someone signs the petition! PM me it and post in here!)
TWEET Something Along the Lines of THIS!
@Asus FIX OUR TABLETS! Where is the "Persistent Perfection"? Where is the Quality control? #transformerprime #liar http://bit.ly/xZseum
WE HAVE WON THIS WAR BEFORE!
I really hope you're trolling or you're a sad little dude...
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I really hope you're trolling or you're a sad little dude...
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No this is serious!
The last operation worked! its getting us the boot loader unlock tool!
Is this the official kick off World?
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You need to learn how to approach companies like asus on problems... this is just rude and disrespectful. I'm an "unhappy" customer but I'm not going to act like you.
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Is this the official kick off World?
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HUH? lol?
This thread is not to be laughed at! just because you are not experiencing issues doesnt mean the first 150k primes sold are not!
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You need to learn how to approach companies like asus on problems... this is just rude and disrespectful. I'm an "unhappy" customer but I'm not going to act like you.
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IT WORKED WITH THE BOOTLOADER!
You guys obviously where not here for that! got a response from asus within 48 hours
In some way I don't think it was mostly their falt but ours since we were already rushing them. They did delay the sales because of the quality but demand was to big on our side. People wanted the device knowing it had problems and now most of them are fighting that they didn't pay much attention to the tablet. Even though we wanted it the way it was....... But every body has their views.
How many people agree?
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Just wow, seriously, if you're not happy with your prime then return it, there are plenty of primes like mine that work perfectly.
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JustinFields95 said:
Just wow, seriously, if you're not happy with your prime then return it, there are plenty of primes like mine that work perfectly.
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Shut up some of us are out of our return window! and are you not unhappy that they will be releasing versions with fixed GPS and other stuff!
The bootloader thing was completely different, this is way too far, and its worded like a spoiled teenage rant.
What really annoys me is that I see you "OP" genuinely trying to help bring these problems to light and get Asus to do the right thing and fix this debacle of a product. But instead I see trolls trollin your thread. Lame.
I applaud you for your outcry. This really needs Asus's FULL attention. Not just Gary and a few other employees. I have a feeling Asus is going to proceed with the release of the TF700t and leave the TF201 in the dust. If I was Asus I would carefully take a look at what went wrong with the TF201 and figure out how to fix it. Instead of releasing a new product. If these problems aren't fixed by Tuesday I am returning my Prime and dock and going with an iPad 3 or maybe a TF700t. Most likely an iPad 3. I really hope Asus comes through in the next 72 hours.
Try not to get upset with fellow TF201 owners. I guarantee their tone will change once the TF700t arrives with no problems. We are all on the same team.
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The bootloader thing was completely different, this is way too far, and its worded like a spoiled teenage rant.
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The bootloader was the same thing!
They had no right to LOCK something we purchased
It was not a cellphone purchased on contract!
This is unacceptable for a company as big as Asus to have this horrible of quality control!
Sky gunner thank you!
Where are the compesations given to other countries outside of the U.S.?
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Where are the compesations given to other countries outside of the U.S.?
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Idk but thank you so much
these guys do not see an undermining company like we do!
No problem. I am here to help.
I know that I have only been a member of this thread for a short while. But I have enjoyed/found most people here to be informitive and entertaining.
Not only is Asus causing me to second guess my 5th TF201 & dock purchase by way of a full refund return, they are alienating me from participating in this wonderful forum full of members with similar interests. After my 5th Prime I'm gone from XDA/Asus.
I really hope it doesn't come down to this.
Ok guys, i feel ya. It sucks getting a faulty product especially over and over. No argument there.
But these issues are only present in a small percentage of Primes. And most of them only apply to artificial situations. For instance wifi: I have a a ~16 Mbps connection. What if my wifi drops to 8 Mbps for some seconds while watching youtube? I wont even notice. So for 95% of Prime users those wifi "issues" dont exist. Me included even though i get pretty steady results.
Minor screen bleed is present on almost all IPS panels even your precious ipads (you should get one, they are perfect devices, will never have problems and last 100 years - sry irony took over ). And again, the only place you notice screen bleed is on startup screen or if your in complete darkness looking at a black page and turning IPS+ on.
So the amount of people that have gone through several primes is very very small. Even here on XDA most people dont experience these issues in a way that the device becomes less fun or even unusable.
By logic the amount of people that will sign this petition and send some spam mail will never be enough to actually achieve something. Sorry man
The bootloader thing was something completely different. Companies locking up bootloaders is something that affects every freakin Android user. So i'm pretty sure there were many people that didnt even plan on buying a prime signing that petition. The same way i have signed the HTC petition and will sign every single one about locking bootloaders of Android devices. Plus, i'm almost certain ASUS already planned it when the petition started.
Again it sucks buying and waiting for such a product and then having a faulty device. Happened to everyone once... But all you can do is, return it and hope for getting a working replacement. Buying another product, or waiting for the next Transformer model from ASUS.
And btw when i read TF700T will have no issues, all i can say is lol. Its like saying the world will end in 2012. Wait... Maybe the two things are linked in some higher plan we dont understand yet!!!??? I think i'm on to something here...
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No problem. I am here to help.
I know that I have only been a member of this thread for a short while. But I have enjoyed/found most people here to be informitive and entertaining.
Not only is Asus causing me to second guess my 5th TF201 & dock purchase by way of a full refund return, they are alienating me from participating in this wonderful forum full of members with similar interests. After my 5th Prime I'm gone from XDA/Asus.
I really hope it doesn't come down to this.
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Awhh We must have lost so many members to this section of the fourm when it first came out!
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So the amount of people that have gone through several primes is very very small. Even here on XDA most people dont experience these issues in a way that the device becomes less fun or even unusable.
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I agree. Most of the TF201 returns I heard about from customer service at my local Bestbuy were transactions that resulted in a full refund not exchange. Most people would return and move on to iPad 3, TF700t etc......
Do you really believe that after this mess of a release Asus is gonna release another defective product? I don't think so. I'm sure Asus's legal department/engineering is working together to provide a "Asus Inspiring Innovation Persistent Perfection" product with the release of the TF700t.
While I'm not quite as zealous as the OP, I do feel that ASUS needs to address the issues listed above. They undoubtedly knew there were pretty severe engineering issues with the prime before release if not, then quite soon thereafter. The weak wifi and nonexistent GPS are unquestionable. The other QA problems are more or less expected
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Obviously it's the most "powerful" in terms of pure processing power and GPU as far as Android tablets go. But is the problems worth not buying? I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here. My question is if I leave it stock would I have some stupid issue's? I dont use bluetooth or GPS on a tablet so..
I posted this on the OG transformer forum by accident.
I KNOW there is a new TF coming out in June that will fix these issue's... But as of NOW is this a safe buy if I won't be rooting ? I will still be getting the new one later.. But need a tablet and cannot see myself going to garbage Tegra2.
Is H.profile video decoded easily with the Tegra3 vs.the 2?
Is it worth buying....?
In a word.... yes
After ASUS fixes the problems with Wifi and WiFi + BT it will be a great buy. Before that, no.
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After ASUS fixes the problems with Wifi and WiFi + BT it will be a great buy. Before that, no.
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What problems with "WiFi" from what i've heard there are only WiFi+BT issues
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What problems with "WiFi" from what i've heard there are only WiFi+BT issues
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I think he was talking about poor wifi performance in some cases. I have a C10KAS that I'll hopefully return today since I can't do anything beyond 20 ft from the router. I'll try to land on a C20KAS which apparently of no issues at all on this.
@jamaicansolja: I dont get it either There are some people that have some issues with wifi stability as it seems. The same thing you see with any device in this format especially the ipad.
I didnt have any of those problems though. I always have about exactly the same connection as my phone (DesireHD, also made out of aluminum with plastic cut outs). (see attachment)
Should you get the prime? Its the best Tablet out there. So yeah go ahead I certainly am really happy with it. Of course that will change in the future, but atm there is nothing even close. And i dont think the ipad 3 will change that because iOS will stay iOS... But thats personal preference.
Same location, 7-8m away from the router (24ft?) 2 Walls in between.
phone:
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Jesus...another thread like this? really?
It's pretty crazy how people are posting on a forum for the tech savvy people but have no clue how to do a search.
This message board really needs some mods.
simple answer yes. just look at the thread in my signature called Positive transformer thread. all your worries will cease afterwards .
If you don't need to take handwritten notes on it, yes it is a very good tablet. I which, there was a digitizer pen that works on the Transformer Prime.
Look dude, what you have to understand is the XDA forums (at least for the prime) has a higher concentration of people who have for whatever reason gotten bad primes. This is most likely because they are looking for answers. The prime is FLYING off the shelf and people who are happy aren't going to be as vocal as people who aren't.
I'm on my second prime and both have been great. The HDMI out port died on my first one, however, I dropped it off the back of the couch onto my kids tricycle so that may have had something to do with it.
I have never had a wifi issue at all. I get full strength in most parts of my house (I have 1.5mbps DSL connection and speed test puts my connection at 1.2mbps). The GPS on it is hit or miss, my first one didn't really work but my second (C1 s/n) works a bit better. If you want a GPS that works on the road though......put your had in your pocket and take out your phone. I've never had any random reboots with either of them. In short I've never had any problems. Its the fastest tablet out there and the best on the market. The keyboard dock is what really gives its edge. I was without one for two days and contemplated getting another until I realized there wasn't one that did everything the prime did.
If enough people complain and send their primes in for GPS issues and the problem becomes a hassle for the company they will offer a fix....I think there was a thread on here saying as much.
BUY ONE!
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If you don't need to take handwritten notes on it, yes it is a very good tablet. I which, there was a digitizer pen that works on the Transformer Prime.
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Why shouldn't you use it for handwriting?
I actually ordered mine for handwriting.
It's a notebook computer (with the dock) and a tablet. There's none like it. I don't need GPS on it cause I have 10 other GPS devices. Wifi is fine on mine, not any weaker than my HTC evo 3d. The good part is it can be as smooth as fast as ipad2 with a custom rom. I'm running virtuous rom. I can't complain its more sluggish or slower than ipad2 now. Functionalities on the TFP just blow ipad dead in the water. Just the browser alone is enough reason to get the TFP over the ipad2. Text reflow, flash support, bookmarks sync with chrome on your pc, quick controls on the stock browser or ice browser+ make safari look so dated, dynamically request desktop view. Complete sweatness. I don't have to go in other details of ice and android's goodness. I purposely compare it to ipad2 cause that's the strongest contender to TFP. I don't think there's a better android tablet out there.
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the XDA forums (at least for the prime) has a higher concentration of people who have for whatever reason gotten bad primes.
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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Are you serious can you not read and comprehend a simple paragraph. I said that the XDA forums have a higher concentration of people who have problems with their primes because they come here looking for answers.....not that asus sent bad ones only to xda members.
You know because this is a tech forum and if people with electronics have issues they come to sites like these to seek answers.....therefore these forums could have a higher concentration of people with complaints. I didn't think that needed to be explained
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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I think you need to reread what he wrote since you clearly misunderstood. It happens to the best of us.
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Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
It Seems to be in the Manner One calls "BAD"
I am on my second one. First one was bad out of the box. Replaced it & I have only experienced a few of the reported problems. Specifically:
1. All but inoperative GPS -- For what I wanted GPS for, the onboard unit would not have worked adequately any way -- External Bluetooth unit fixed that.
2. Weak WiFi. My biggest complaint. Works, but range is somewhat less than I desire.
3. Somewhat slow data transfer between computer & Transformer -- Liveable, but slower than I desire.
4. Prior to JellyBean, I experienced a "few" spontaneous program shutdowns. I never got ANRs, just restarts of very few apps. None since JB.
I read most of the replies on this forum, and my experience has been overall positive (not OUTSTANDING) with the TF201 when compared to the descriptions (horror stories) of some other users.
If I had to do it over, and knowing what I now know, (I really hate to say this) I would buy an IPad. STOP!! No rock throwing, please. There is only ONE reason I would commit such an act (I LIKE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT APPLE OR ITS PRODUCTS). The only possible reason I would do so, is because of the FOREFLIGHT app (for aviation). There is nothing Android that measures up to it.
Well, there you have it. If your expectations are unrealistically high, you possibly will not be satisfied. If you are willing to overlook some few deficiencies, your experience can be positive.
Hope my ramblings give you some glimmer of hope.
Jerry in Anchorage
muskt said:
I am on my second one. First one was bad out of the box. Replaced it & I have only experienced a few of the reported problems. Specifically:
1. All but inoperative GPS -- For what I wanted GPS for, the onboard unit would not have worked adequately any way -- External Bluetooth unit fixed that.
2. Weak WiFi. My biggest complaint. Works, but range is somewhat less than I desire.
3. Somewhat slow data transfer between computer & Transformer -- Liveable, but slower than I desire.
4. Prior to JellyBean, I experienced a "few" spontaneous program shutdowns. I never got ANRs, just restarts of very few apps. None since JB.
I read most of the replies on this forum, and my experience has been overall positive (not OUTSTANDING) with the TF201 when compared to the descriptions (horror stories) of some other users.
If I had to do it over, and knowing what I now know, (I really hate to say this) I would buy an IPad. STOP!! No rock throwing, please. There is only ONE reason I would commit such an act (I LIKE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT APPLE OR ITS PRODUCTS). The only possible reason I would do so, is because of the FOREFLIGHT app (for aviation). There is nothing Android that measures up to it.
Well, there you have it. If your expectations are unrealistically high, you possibly will not be satisfied. If you are willing to overlook some few deficiencies, your experience can be positive.
Hope my ramblings give you some glimmer of hope.
Jerry in Anchorage
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That sounds pretty bad in fairness...
Given the price of the unit (£400) you would expect it to be fast and.. wifi/gps to work!
Hrmm.. This is problematic. I've not yet actually revived the unit yet so I've got to consider carefully if its worth opening or just sending back closed for a full refund (if I can..)
I will absolutely NOt be trading my Prime for the 700..I will be trading it for the Nexus 10!
Same here...
Mine is going back to amazon for a full refund. Printed the return label and refund barcode late last night. droping the box by ups today.
Ahhh and yes... I'm getting a Nexus 10 too :victory:
slychocobo said:
Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
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I don't think you made a mistake. In addition to the attachable keyboard, you've got the much longer battery life, a USB and a full-sized SD slot. On the Prime itself, you have micro HDMI and Micro-SD. You've got some apps that will run in floating, re-sizable windows (Overskreen browser and Stick-IT media player). You can install widgets. You can mount the entire filesystem when connecting to a PC without installing some silly program. You've got multiple sources for getting apps and less expensively than the fruit-flavored alternative. On top of all this, the Prime has a more robust processor than the iPad2.
No, you didn't make a mistake.
There are a small number of specific apps where the iPad is clearly the better choice. These tend to be nichey.
You're going to love your Prime. Mine's great.
Hey op, since you've had a ipad 2 before and know how it performs, I think you'll know very soon if you have made a mistake or not.
htcplussony said:
Hey op, since you've had a ipad 2 before and know how it performs, I think you'll know very soon if you have made a mistake or not.
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Well thats.. Vague?
Care to eloberate.
Found someone to buy my Prime tomorrow, enough to trade for a Nexus 10.
slychocobo said:
Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
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you sound like a troll with this question. However since I made the leap from Ipad 2 to tf201 I will say you need balls of steel to buy a transformer prime. If you cant tell by looking at the *****ing going on here, there are problems that Ipad users will not appreciate. If you want a project to occupy you time and mind get a prime. if you dont know what fastboot means steer clear.
whycali said:
you sound like a troll with this question. However since I made the leap from Ipad 2 to tf201 I will say you need balls of steel to buy a transformer prime. If you cant tell by looking at the *****ing going on here, there are problems that Ipad users will not appreciate. If you want a project to occupy you time and mind get a prime. if you dont know what fastboot means steer clear.
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I assure you that's not my intention at all. Personally Im quite a fan of the Android OS (Most of my phones have been android, and Im rocking a Galaxy Note with PA right now and its fantastic)
As for things like Fastboot I've not really used it for quite a while (Since I had a Nexus 1, great phone But are you saying that most of the issues can be migrated with rooting/3rd party ROM's?
If that's the case then I'm comfortable enough going down that root but given that most of the *****ing here seems to be hardware related issues (I've read things about the Wifi/GPS don't work, apparently because of the casing..?) And things like slow I/O I'm somewhat confused about how re-flashed ROM (Although I've seen things that Jellybean also can make marked improvements in both stability and speed, but then you lose flash apparently?!)
There seems to be a lot of conflicting information floating about, and I appropriated that by the nature of forums that people are going to post to help with faults rather than "My phone is great!... Carry on!"..
Im just trying to build a balanced picture in my mind so if I should "take the risk"
Well it looks like my Tablet isn't going to arrive today so I guess I have the weekend to mull over it.
Still torn between if I should accept the device and run with it, or send it it back and hold out for the Nexus 10 (And with luck, get a keyboard/cover style solution to it)
Its just the lack of a SD card on it that's making me hesitate.
slychocobo said:
Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
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#1 what is a Prime 2? There is only one Transformer Prime....
#2 I think you should get an ipad, just for the fact you are folding under peer pressure.
I have had my Prime since Day #1, picked it up at a game stop with preorder, I was the 1st one in the store on release day. I have loved it since day one, yes it is not 100% (Gps is weak, got the dongle now) but no products are ever 100% what everyone wants. I did not buy it for the GPS, it was more of a feature than a need.
I love my TF201 w/keyboard and all the extras that apple users don't have. (sd, usb, etc...) I will not be trading or selling it off until it is time for a new one and at that time hope Asus or someone is still making it with a detachable keyboard.
Again, I think you should send it back so you can get your Ipad with the app you like. (good Luck) :fingers-crossed:
Just one year after, the Prime development is dead. Two roms have been updated a month ago and much appreciated work on them. But that's about it. What was once the tablet of the future, Asus made it a flop, A $500 flop at that. How poor, I'll never buy another Asus tablet or PC again. I had mine since day one and have no problems with. I wish everyone could say that.
Thank you for your contribution. We definitely needed another one of these threads.
Long live the Prime!
Yes, as said before, this is the problem with people who jump on these forums and fill it with non-sense, gripe and make an atmosphere of uncertainty and unthankfulness.. Yes, thanks for the positive outlook indeed.
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This is not true. lilstevie and tux_mind are VERY close to perfecting an Ubuntu dual boot. Think about it, Volume Up to boot Android; Volume Down to boot Ubuntu. That would be the coolest thing in the history of things. This is what I have been waiting for since 2008. Sooo... STFU.
Prime is dead
Mine truly is----at ASUS RMA facility for the third time since purchase
first 2 times wif-bluetooth issue in shop for 1.5 months
this time green camera
Truly a 500$ 650 if you count the dock peice of c***
There are very few primes around in my country so i don't care if its dead, i have a special device and its working perfectly.
But i think my next tablet (i hope the prime works for a long time) will be one with a digitizer for pens. Like the galaxy note 10.1. In my situation i prefer that over a keyboard.
Long live the prime.
I've had mine since day one. Never had reason to complain about it at all. Two friends have bought them after seeing mine. Still use it every day. I wish I had two.
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I really like mine it replaced my laptop ... i also like the build quality. Samsung plastics are not my kind of thing. Drawbacks are wifi performance and the system to connect tablet and keyboard could use some rethinking.
wifi performance
Thom4s said:
I really like mine it replaced my laptop ... i also like the build quality. Samsung plastics are not my kind of thing. Drawbacks are wifi performance and the system to connect tablet and keyboard could use some rethinking.
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I too had WIFI problems but since I purchased a MyFi (3G 4G) from Verizon I get 4 Bars where ever I go in my area.
andrewjt19 said:
Yes, as said before, this is the problem with people who jump on these forums and fill it with non-sense, gripe and make an atmosphere of uncertainty and unthankfulness.. Yes, thanks for the positive outlook indeed.
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This person is entitled to their oppinion, and has valid points, just because you do not agree doesnt give you the right to be critical or condescending.
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I think that the Development is very slow mostly because around a 50% of users have their Bootloader locked, so lots of people couldn't use other roms, kernels or mods (and of course if a user wants to start a develop and has it's Prime locked, simply he can't).
I bought the tf201 a month ago because I didn't know anything about Bootloader, I thought that I could flash a kernel for OC or something similar. I try to unlock and I couldn't, and now I'm happy with it, because my tf201 died a week ago. When it returns from the RMA, I'll try to sell it. That's all, and this is the last ASUS tablet I'll buy.
louvass said:
Just one year after, the Prime development is dead. Two roms have been updated a month ago and much appreciated work on them. But that's about it. What was once the tablet of the future, Asus made it a flop, A $500 flop at that. How poor, I'll never buy another Asus tablet or PC again. I had mine since day one and have no problems with. I wish everyone could say that.
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I find it interesting as to how much people are influenced by the opinions and experiences of others. In one breath you say you'll never buy another Asus tablet again and in the next you say you've had your Prime for over a year and have had no problems with it.
jordache16 said:
I find it interesting as to how much people are influenced by the opinions and experiences of others. In one breath you say you'll never buy another Asus tablet again and in the next you say you've had your Prime for over a year and have had no problems with it.
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Let me help you out a little, jordache. I'm quite happy with my Prime. I've not had problems with it. I have several Wireless APs at my home, so it's saturated with signal. As a result, I've not had problems with the wifi. I've chosen not to Root or Unlock my Prime, so I've not had the headaches there that others have had. As the features go (HDMI, Micro-SD, SD, USB, additional battery in keyboard dock), the Prime is top notch. I'd still take it over an iPad any day of the week.
Having said all of that, Asus's post-sale hardware support is terrible. So terrible that I probably won't buy another Asus product. I managed to lose a couple of rubber feet on the dock. When I inquired about getting some replacement feet, Asus wanted me to do an RMA on the dock. I'm not impressed.
randalltroy said:
This person is entitled to their oppinion, and has valid points, just because you do not agree doesnt give you the right to be critical or condescending.
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The original post in this thread is the equivalent to someone standing up in the middle of a conference on economics and yelling "I LIKE BANANAS".
Sure, they have every right to like bananas, but it isn't helpful, it's attention-seeking and is essentially pointless.
Go eat bananas if you like them. No one cares.
jordache16 said:
I find it interesting as to how much people are influenced by the opinions and experiences of others. In one breath you say you'll never buy another Asus tablet again and in the next you say you've had your Prime for over a year and have had no problems with it.
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That is correct because my bluetooth sucks, my wireless sucks and should be much better than it is. No other issues besides that. I was just stating a fact that there is not much development for the tablet anymore. That's all I was saying, take it the way you wish but we are all allowed opinions here. thank you
The truth of the matter IMO is that people have come to expect too much. It's the "where's my update" syndrome where people want something new ever other week. Things evolve so fast that yes, a one year old device is practically ancient history. And Asus supported this device for much longer and through many more updates than most other manufacturers do. Take my Motorola Droid 3....please! Seriously my Droid 3 was abandoned by Motorola almost as soon as it was released. My original Droid Came with Android 2.0 then it got 2.1 and 2.2 from Motorola and then 2.3.7 via Cyanogen Mod 7.2 but once on 2.x, always on 2.x. On the other hand on the Prime we went from 3.x to 4.0 to 4.1 and will probably see 4.2 which is really not bad at all. It should also be capable of running future versions of custom ROMs....if the developers keep working on it. But really we have to expect that they will eventually move on too. But these days a year is almost an eternity for a mobile device.
rorytmeadows said:
The original post in this thread is the equivalent to someone standing up in the middle of a conference on economics and yelling "I LIKE BANANAS".
Sure, they have every right to like bananas, but it isn't helpful, it's attention-seeking and is essentially pointless.
Go eat bananas if you like them. No one cares.
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Yes and another no brain response. I was just stating a fact.. don't like tough sh*t. I love my Prime, if I didn't I would have sold it long ago for something better. I was just stating that development has slowed down to a halt.. nothing to do with bananas !. Gezzzz
louvass said:
Yes and another no brain response. I was just stating a fact.. don't like tough sh*t. I love my Prime, if I didn't I would have sold it long ago for something better. I was just stating that development has slowed down to a halt.. nothing to do with bananas !. Gezzzz
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I don't see it so much as slowing down, more like we have got to the limits of what we can achieve with what we have.
When 4.2 arrives I'm sure you will see some more dev work going on and also there is cyanogenmod which updates nightly if you really want to update regularly.
There is only so much you can do based on the stock rom.
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Yes and another no brain response. I was just stating a fact.. don't like tough sh*t. I love my Prime, if I didn't I would have sold it long ago for something better. I was just stating that development has slowed down to a halt.. nothing to do with bananas !. Gezzzz
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So lets get this straight, you "love" your Prime but you will not be buying another Asus product again. Can you please explain?