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Hi folks, this is my first post as a samsung owner.
Won't lie but it feels so strange cause i always had an HTC phone, in fact i just swapped my sensation with the S2 and i must say im pretty satisfied after the various problems i faced with it.
Anyway, i am always obsessed in measuring the current consumption on my phone since i had my HD2.
So is there any application that can do that on S2, knowing that i tried "current widget" and " battery monitor widget from market.
The 1st one doesnt capture anything and the second freezes on 1ma and sometimes shows measurements, although i performed a couple of discharge charge cycles.
Any help please?
Thx
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When I go to Settings> About Tablet> Battery Use> I get "Battery Usage Data Not Available". I have had my tablet on for over 10 hrs and no data has been recorded. I even restarted the tablet and I see the same message. Is anyone getting this same message?
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Richard1322 said:
When I go to Settings> About Tablet> Battery Use> I get "Battery Usage Data Not Available". I have had my tablet on for over 10 hrs and no data has been recorded. I even restarted the tablet and I see the same message. Is anyone getting this same message?
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Rest assured, everyone sees this. Its a bug.
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Richard1322 said:
When I go to Settings> About Tablet> Battery Use> I get "Battery Usage Data Not Available". I have had my tablet on for over 10 hrs and no data has been recorded. I even restarted the tablet and I see the same message. Is anyone getting this same message?
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its aknown bug
This was a bug with the original Transformer as well. It took a few firmware updates but ASUS fixed it eventually. My guess is it will work in ICS.
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I reported this also, was also told it was a known HC bug.
BTW, this stuff is also very kernel related. I ran into this on other kernels when rooted. If the function is not built into the kernel, you will only ever system the basic system data and never any apps.
Now, the thing that should be cool is that ICS has a real bad ass battery monitoring upgrade that they thought was so neat, they even took time to show it off at their ICS press conference a few months back. It is slick and like the current system but on steroids and far more advanced, all we can hope is that the Asus's kernel can handle it as it IS a function in ICS.
It works on 8.8.3.33
justwonder said:
It works on 8.8.3.33
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Im also on 8.8.3.33 but its not workig
Im sorry, it was my other tablet.
justwonder said:
It works on 8.8.3.33
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Nope, it doesn't.
When in the settings and looking at the grayish chart that has "XX On Battery" click that and expand the full chart and under that you will see only system processes listed but what you SHOULD see are system process and all your apps.
Still not fixed with ICS...
Asus did not roll the function into the kernel.. It is not broke, not busted, they just did not do it.
Lock-N-Load said:
Asus did not roll the function into the kernel.. It is not broke, not busted, they just did not do it.
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Yes they did this for a reason to save battery!
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Wordlywisewiz said:
Yes they did this for a reason to save battery!
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Wrong. I will say here what I said in the other thread where you said that... This function, minimal minimal power draw. So much so, many ROM makers and kernel makers are sure to add this function in their work as it is so valuable, the same guys that do everything to eek out battery life and minimize resource use to make the best releases keep this function or cook it into their releases. And furthermore, according to previous TF owners, Asus added this in at a later update so it would correctly report. I would love to know where you officially read that Asus purposefully did not cook this into their kernel to "save battery".
In the other thread I also provided a screenshot of this function working correctly in ICS
This thread has a lot more data and screenshots
Hello guys
Being a long time member, and having rooted many of my devices before (Xoom, HTC Sensation etc) I have seen complaints like people are posting where some here are experiencing no battery/rebooting issues(like me) while others are experiencing the opposite. The first thing that any experienced developer here on XDA would tell you is that something went wrong when updating to the new .13 update, which is why some are experiencing problems, while others are not. It does not make sense that a good majority of us, have no issues...if the new .13 update was bad/faulty, then it would affect all of us, not just some. I would highly recommend that people with issues reformat/start from scratch, as this has helped others with similar issues. If this does not help, then unfortunately you just experience a bad update, which of course the only fix would be is to try to reinstall the update (easy to do if rooted) or wait for a new update from Asus.
Also, if your battery is dying quickly, check to see if it is warm to the touch even if you are not using it. If so, then this would definitely point to an app trying to do something in the background without your knowledge..maybe there is an app trying to sync but your wifi is off, or an app that you installed that does not play nice with ICS. I would suggest that those with problems can list their installed apps, and those without issues can see if they have any of the apps on their devices...this can help narrow the issue down and hopefully find the culprit.
Thanx
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Hello guys
Being a long time member, and having rooted many of my devices before (Xoom, HTC Sensation etc) I have seen complaints like people are posting where some here are experiencing no battery/rebooting issues(like me) while others are experiencing the opposite. The first thing that any experienced developer here on XDA would tell you is that something went wrong when updating to the new .13 update, which is why some are experiencing problems, while others are not. It does not make sense that a good majority of us, have no issues...if the new .13 update was bad/faulty, then it would affect all of us, not just some. I would highly recommend that people with issues reformat/start from scratch, as this has helped others with similar issues. If this does not help, then unfortunately you just experience a bad update, which of course the only fix would be is to try to reinstall the update (easy to do if rooted) or wait for a new update from Asus.
Also, if your battery is dying quickly, check to see if it is warm to the touch even if you are not using it. If so, then this would definitely point to an app trying to do something in the background without your knowledge..maybe there is an app trying to sync but your wifi is off, or an app that you installed that does not play nice with ICS. I would suggest that those with problems can list their installed apps, and those without issues can see if they have any of the apps on their devices...this can help narrow the issue down and hopefully find the culprit.
Thanx
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All fair points, but many people suspect that there are at least two batches of Primes floating around with different hardware. After all, even before this update, there were groups of people that had freezes and reboots and others who had none.
Another telling point is that as far as I can tell, .13 update completely fixed Primes that were previously having sleep of death and reboot problems, and caused sleep of death, reboot and battery problems only on Primes that were previously working fine. This also suggests two different hardware sets to me (e.g., they tested the .13 update only/mostly on the set of Primes that had previous problems).
the bad update/ flash/ application as a culprit to all the Primes problems went out the window long ago this is all horse**** the problem is with the tegra3 in some way and different hardware variances in X Prime vs B Prime vs Z Prime etc....etc...etc...
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All fair points, but many people suspect that there are at least two batches of Primes floating around with different hardware. After all, even before this update, there were groups of people that had freezes and reboots and others who had none.
Another telling point is that as far as I can tell, .13 update completely fixed Primes that were previously having sleep of death and reboot problems, and caused sleep of death, reboot and battery problems only on Primes that were previously working fine. This also suggests two different hardware sets to me (e.g., they tested the .13 update only/mostly on the set of Primes that had previous problems).
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But that doesn't make sense either, because I had no rebooting issues before and no battery issues after updating to .13.
What we need here is hard data evidence from something such as a battery/hardware/resource monitor, which I have not seen from anyone with battery issues.
I don't have the issue so there is really nothing for me to monitor and gather data from.
Just had this issue pop up. Was using my Prime this morning on the charger, closed the screen (have the dock) pulled the plug put it in my bag for the day. Went to class, and then to work pulled it out at 6pm to check out a new note taking app and found my Prime to be HOT, like I left in in the car on a sunny day hot. Opened it up and it wouldn't come to life, held the on/off till it "shut off" then powered it back on. Battery life is 80% prime 14% dock. As requested my apps are as follows.
AdFree
Adobe Air
Adobe Flash
Amazon Kindle
AnTuTu Benchmark
B&N Nook
BatteryCalibration
Battleheart
Beautiful Widgets
BusyBox
CacheMate
Chrome Beta
Dolphin Browser HD
Dropbox
Elixer
Elixer Widget
Emit
Exactly
Galaxy Pack
GameBoid
GenPlusDroid
Google+
GPS Test
Hacker's Keyboard
LogMeIn
Mame4Droid
Muffin Knight
MX Video Player
N64oid
Netflix
PicSpeed
QR Droid
Rom Buddy
Rom Gripper
SD Speed Increase
SD Tools
Skype
Speed Test
Spirit
Stick it!
Stumbler Tablet
Titanium Backup/pro
Voodoo OTA RootKeeper
WiFi Analyzer
wow, didn't realize I had so many apps.
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Just had this issue pop up. Was using my Prime this morning on the charger, closed the screen (have the dock) pulled the plug put it in my bag for the day. Went to class, and then to work pulled it out at 6pm to check out a new note taking app and found my Prime to be HOT, like I left in in the car on a sunny day hot. Opened it up and it wouldn't come to life, held the on/off till it "shut off" then powered it back on. Battery life is 80% prime 14% dock. As requested my apps are as follows.
AdFree
Adobe Air
Adobe Flash
Amazon Kindle
AnTuTu Benchmark
B&N Nook
BatteryCalibration
Battleheart
Beautiful Widgets
BusyBox
CacheMate
Chrome Beta
Dolphin Browser HD
Dropbox
Elixer
Elixer Widget
Emit
Exactly
Galaxy Pack
GameBoid
GenPlusDroid
Google+
GPS Test
Hacker's Keyboard
LogMeIn
Mame4Droid
Muffin Knight
MX Video Player
N64oid
Netflix
PicSpeed
QR Droid
Rom Buddy
Rom Gripper
SD Speed Increase
SD Tools
Skype
Speed Test
Spirit
Stick it!
Stumbler Tablet
Titanium Backup/pro
Voodoo OTA RootKeeper
WiFi Analyzer
wow, didn't realize I had so many apps.
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That's not alot..lol. that's a lil bit. I have most of what you have n have no battery issues. Ill look closer n cross refermce with mines to let you know what I don't have. I have wayyyy to many apps to list.. probably over 200.
Crazy how my prime is never affected negatively from these updates. Ill check n see.
tigertechmi said:
Just had this issue pop up. Was using my Prime this morning on the charger, closed the screen (have the dock) pulled the plug put it in my bag for the day. Went to class, and then to work pulled it out at 6pm to check out a new note taking app and found my Prime to be HOT, like I left in in the car on a sunny day hot. Opened it up and it wouldn't come to life, held the on/off till it "shut off" then powered it back on. Battery life is 80% prime 14% dock. As requested my apps are as follows.
AdFree
Adobe Air
Adobe Flash
Amazon Kindle
AnTuTu Benchmark
B&N Nook
BatteryCalibration
Battleheart
Beautiful Widgets
BusyBox
CacheMate
Chrome Beta
Dolphin Browser HD
Dropbox
Elixer
Elixer Widget
Emit
Exactly
Galaxy Pack
GameBoid
GenPlusDroid
Google+
GPS Test
Hacker's Keyboard
LogMeIn
Mame4Droid
Muffin Knight
MX Video Player
N64oid
Netflix
PicSpeed
QR Droid
Rom Buddy
Rom Gripper
SD Speed Increase
SD Tools
Skype
Speed Test
Spirit
Stick it!
Stumbler Tablet
Titanium Backup/pro
Voodoo OTA RootKeeper
WiFi Analyzer
wow, didn't realize I had so many apps.
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If your TFP is hot it could be an indication that the processor is running something and causing heat.
Try an app like SystemPanel to monitor resource usage. You may have to get the paid version in order to track app resource usage history
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel
Here is another good website to find other apps to monitor usage and find out what exactly is using your battery.
http://android.appstorm.net/roundup...nitor-usage-stats-and-tweak-system-utilities/
Have people experiencing the issues gotten the OTA or did they do the update via file where you system partition is formatted? Wonder if some file(s) didn't get updated properly via OTA but work fine via .zip update.
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unknown_owner said:
Have people experiencing the issues gotten the OTA or did they do the update via file where you system partition is formatted? Wonder if some file(s) didn't get updated properly via OTA but work fine via .zip update.
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That's actually a pretty good question! Along with posting a list of apps...thinking a widget is trying to sync constantly?? Also, have you guys checked your app intervals...too many apps syncing at a low interval will kill your battery
I couldn't do the OTA, so I had to do the wipe and full install from .zip
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Have people experiencing the issues gotten the OTA or did they do the update via file where you system partition is formatted? Wonder if some file(s) didn't get updated properly via OTA but work fine via .zip update.
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So is your Prime working fine?
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MRCANNADY said:
That's actually a pretty good question! Along with posting a list of apps...thinking a widget is trying to sync constantly?? Also, have you guys checked your app intervals...too many apps syncing at a low interval will kill your battery
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Although I didn't suffer from issues here ln battery, after hearing about it, I went in and changed all intervals and cut off anything unnecessary. I especially made sure to raise email interval. As that's the thing that goes off the most. When it does it also causes the audio to go off constantly. So far I've been getting even better battery life than before in deep sleep. Actually very impressed how lil energy is used while in deep sleep. Before o took my screenshot and used tablet, it was in deep sleep for over 7-8hrs. And didn't budge from 100%. That's pretty impressive.
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So is your Prime working fine?
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Yes! My wifi signal strength matches my Moto Xoom, I haven't had one reboot..GPS is weak but I honestly didn't buy the tab for that (Ipad users don't have it, but who cares its not a navigation device) . My 1080p movie playback is flawless, colors are rich. This is truly a sexy, powerful beast of a tablet! I'm sure that we all can agree on that...I'm sure that Asus will work out the kinks that some are having soon.
Everywhere I go, even Ipad owners love the way this Tablet looks, especially the screen display
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Although I didn't suffer from issues here ln battery, after hearing about it, I went in and changed all intervals and cut off anything unnecessary. I especially made sure to raise email interval. As that's the thing that goes off the most. When it does it also causes the audio to go off constantly. So far I've been getting even better battery life than before in deep sleep. Actually very impressed how lil energy is used while in deep sleep. Before o took my screenshot and used tablet, it was in deep sleep for over 7-8hrs. And didn't budge from 100%. That's pretty impressive.
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What's up guy, still spreading those chrome rumors??
Yeah, I'm wondering if people have their update intervals low an the system is constantly trying to update apps in the background?? This would explain the warm/hot backs of the Primes by the batteries for some
The battery, sleep of death and random reboot IT IS CAUSE BY THE NEW OTA .13
i have factory restore 3 times no app install, same problem
i have push the OTA .13 MANUALLY TWICE same problem without installing app.
there's no way to get around this, only a new firmware fix or backflash to .11 only solution for us having problem with this new .13
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eduardmc said:
The battery, sleep of death and random reboot IT IS CAUSE BY THE NEW OTA .13
i have factory restore 3 times no app install, same problem
i have push the OTA .13 MANUALLY TWICE same problem without installing app.
there's no way to get around this, only a new firmware fix or backflash to .11 only solution for us having problem with this new .13
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So then why is it only affecting some, but not others. Lets rule out all possibilities an not pretend like we know things for certain when you don't
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So then why is it only affecting some, but not others. Lets rule out all possibilities an not pretend like we know things for certain when you don't
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Why are any users experiencing the range of issues this tablet is presenting while others are not? We have 3-5 major bugs that are sporadically scattered across a wide range of serial numbers. I believe its downright obvious that TFPs have a variation in hardware quality and/or quality control issues. It's fracking embarrassing. To say that only some people are having this battery issue just continues to follow the trend that has been ASUS the past 3 months.
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Why are any users experiencing the range of issues this tablet is presenting while others are not? We have 3-5 major bugs that are sporadically scattered across a wide range of serial numbers. I believe its downright obvious that TFPs have a variation in hardware quality and/or quality control issues. It's fracking embarrassing. To say that only some people are having this battery issue just continues to follow the trend that has been ASUS the past 3 months.
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Im guessing the reason for most of these problems is going from HC to ICS without a full wipe.
I have flashed thousands of roms on my devices since Windows Mobile 6.1 and when portion of people have issues they are told to check md5 sums and full wipe.
A little from column a and a little from column b perhaps.
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Wipe? Doesn't an OTA format everything?
nyijedi said:
All fair points, but many people suspect that there are at least two batches of Primes floating around with different hardware. After all, even before this update, there were groups of people that had freezes and reboots and others who had none.
Another telling point is that as far as I can tell, .13 update completely fixed Primes that were previously having sleep of death and reboot problems, and caused sleep of death, reboot and battery problems only on Primes that were previously working fine. This also suggests two different hardware sets to me (e.g., they tested the .13 update only/mostly on the set of Primes that had previous problems).
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This.
I had no sleep of death problem until the update, and it's ridiculous how fast it's burning through battery now.
I notice that it's constantly around 16-20% of my battery usage, and I don't even use it! Is there some setting I need to disable here? Common problem?
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TheBiles said:
I notice that it's constantly around 16-20% of my battery usage, and I don't even use it! Is there some setting I need to disable here? Common problem?
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I was wondering the same thing. I am actually getting pretty good battery life as is, but I am thinking it could be even better.
I rebooted my phone last night, and I have not used maps all day. However when I look at my battery usage it says maps 13%??
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I was wondering the same thing. I am actually getting pretty good battery life as is, but I am thinking it could be even better.
I rebooted my phone last night, and I have not used maps all day. However when I look at my battery usage it says maps 13%??
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I'm getting the same thing, I'm wondering if it is because of location services.
Try uninstalling Maps and rebooting your phone. Then go to playstore and reinstall it.
That's what I did and for a couple days now it hasn't been eating up my battery. So far so good.
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I'm getting the same thing, I'm wondering if it is because of location services.
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This is exactly why.
My latitude isn't working today, anyone else?
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also check the setting such that that you cache maps on wifi only.
Hi everyone,
I have a problem with my GT-i9300 with stock JB & stock kernel (I9300XXDLJ4), the battery drains too much fast while screen is off, even after all apps closed or cold start (if screen is on, battery drains abnormally fast as well). BBS shows lots of partial wakelocks named NetworkLocationLocator, and of course I have googled this and found an issue in AOSP issues list, but no solution. (sorry can't post links, issue #37348)
The only thing I can do to prevent early battery death is to go to Settings->Location and uncheck 'use wireless networks', but this is really bad for overall user experience. Things like latitude or google now are disabled.
I am attaching lots of screenshots that might help to understand my problem + BBS report and logs.
Thanks everyone in advance...
Mate, you know that there is an entire thread dedicated to better battery stats......... Search will probably lead to a resolution.
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I am searching for solution for like weeks including thread mentioned. Still no result..
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woyorus said:
Hi everyone,
I have a problem with my GT-i9300 with stock JB & stock kernel (I9300XXDLJ4), the battery drains too much fast while screen is off, even after all apps closed or cold start (if screen is on, battery drains abnormally fast as well). BBS shows lots of partial wakelocks named NetworkLocationLocator, and of course I have googled this and found an issue in AOSP issues list, but no solution. (sorry can't post links, issue #37348)
The only thing I can do to prevent early battery death is to go to Settings->Location and uncheck 'use wireless networks', but this is really bad for overall user experience. Things like latitude or google now are disabled.
I am attaching lots of screenshots that might help to understand my problem + BBS report and logs.
Thanks everyone in advance...
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I have exatly the same issue. Search and search and nothing. already troubleshoot using BBS, the only way to do it is disable it or use an app that disconnects 3g and wifi and connects it every x minutes - like easy battery saver. the only thing I am amazed is that there are not so many reports about it...
will keep you posted since I keep troubleshooting.
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I have exatly the same issue. Search and search and nothing. already troubleshoot using BBS, the only way to do it is disable it or use an app that disconnects 3g and wifi and connects it every x minutes - like easy battery saver. the only thing I am amazed is that there are not so many reports about it...
will keep you posted since I keep troubleshooting.
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It seems like I found the problem, at least on my phone. I have disabled SNS (Social Network Service or so, a weird app shipped with the stock rom by samsung) and also uninstalled the facebook app, looks like I don't have the issue since that. Battery has drained much less overnight today, and I don't see any location-related wakelocks in BBS. I'll try to find what exactly causes the problem
Can you please be more specific about this service? Where did you disable and what was the name of the app?
Thanks
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Can you please be more specific about this service? Where did you disable and what was the name of the app?
Thanks
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It's under Settings->Application Manager. You have to swipe twice to the right in order to open 'All applications' tab there, and find SNS app, and then click 'Disable' button. The app's icon looks like Facebook logo (little f letter on blue background). Please let me know if it was helpful.. and don't forget to freeze/uninstall official facebook app
Thanks. Meanwhile I've remove and disable a lot of services, mainly from Samsung that I don't use and the battery drain is more stable when the device is on standby.
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Thanks. Meanwhile I've remove and disable a lot of services, mainly from Samsung that I don't use and the battery drain is more stable when the device is on standby.
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Well, have you noticed anything other than the services and battery drain? Maybe an in-/decrease of performance, or something else?
If you look on the Android *stock* battery stats app, you'll see, as soon as the screen is off, for the night, the data connection goes crazy with different signals and network modes. Have you tried putting the phone somewhere else at night, maybe just to see, whether that makes a difference? I'm guessing, you get fluctuations in your network, at night. That has happened to me, quite a lot, as I had my GS II (Telekom DE fixed it, though).
If that isn't the problem, then you've probably installed other third-party apps, that are causing this battery drainage, maybe they're collecting your user data, or something.
Anyways, hope I could help!
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
Yes I've been watching it. In resume:
1) if you activate use networks for location the battery drains even if none app request it.
2) there are a bunch of services mainly from Samsung that drains the battery just because they do.
3) if I leave my Wi-Fi off for the night it will drain 5% against 20% if I leave it on
Probably this one is because of weak Wi-Fi at my bedroom. Yes I've selected only when connected but even so the phone doesn't respect it.
4) if you have selected backup this phone to Google it will drain the battery also
5) I can have really good battery life if I disconnect Wi-Fi and data and connect it once in a while
But my point is why should I need to manage all this stuff? Why do I need to spend more time troubleshooting something instead of having fun with a new phone?
I've used juice defender, battery stats and a bunch of other applications just to conclude that android and Samsung are a piece of **** regarding power management.
And yes, Google now is disconnected and also history location.
If I wipe my phone and do not install anything, battery life is regular, as soon I start to install apps it will start to drain without apparently explication.
I have bought an extra battery and will live with it. I this it's just an os feature.
I've tried some custom rom's but all of them have problems, some because something doesn't work, others because developer didn't implement it, so I know if I want one good enough to suit my desires,I should cook it myself but I do not want to do it, so I came back always to official one.
And I do not have enough patience to undervolt or spend my nights tweaking something that should have work from out of the box.
This is my experience with my first android and I think this is why people always have complains about this system. I'm just going to live with it and accept the fact that this os have lots of defects that should not exist.
One thing is true: it is very frustrating from an user experience point off view.
Just my 2 cents
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I completely agree with you here. I don't know what exactly causes the problem, bugs with Samsung's software or bugs in Android itself - I don't care. The user experience is awful with this device.
I really considering getting an iPhone. iOS is built the way when regardless of amount apps installed and their quality the battery life is stable and decent. No app, maybe except VoIP, could drain battery if it's in the background or the screen is off. For me personally, all this Android's 'customizability' causes only decline in UX and battery life.
Ridiculously, there are lots of poor quality apps for Android that behave extremely bad, for example The Tribez game. It's a game, and I am expecting battery drain only when I'm playing (isn't it logical?), however, I do get drain caused by this app even if it's closed! That's ridiculous. I just bought an iPad version and I have absolutely no problems with it, moreover, it is running much faster on my dualcore tablet than on my cutting edge quad core phone. Of course, this is just an awful job porting the game from iOS to Android, but I'm sure, mostly this is problem with Android itself. This is the _mobile_ OS, and it must not allow any app behave like this (like iOS does, it kills badass processes almost instantaneously). I'm sorry Android fanboys, but your lovely OS is a poor quality product.
I've already said too much, but again, I don't want to think if my WiFi or anything else is turned off, I want to use my handset. I think you get my point.
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