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I'm curious... Do you apply/wanna apply a lag fix because your device is actually lagging or is it just the thing to do nowadays? I ask because I have never found a need for one. The only lag I had on the Vibrant was when I first took it out of the box and even that was kinda tolerable. But as things are right now, I really don't see how my device could get any faster and if it could...why? Quadrant scores? What is the real advantage (if any) to having it? .02¢
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
High quadrant scores. Do you see the first thing most people mention when they install the lag fix?
"My quadrant score went from 200 to 2000!!!!!!!!" as if it was an indicator of actual performance.
No good, controlled tests have been conducted.
I don't use it. The one time I did, when it was included in the kernel with BLN, I had horrible battery life. Most people use it to get higher scores. The N1 would run circles around the Vibrant in terms of scores but when in real world testing, both devices are just as fast.
It's not just scores...
It makes your system a bit faster people nowadays do it without needing to and there's nothing wrong with that.
I run a lagfix and it has improved my speed and response.
Without making me lose any battery
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It's not just scores...
It makes your system a bit faster people nowadays do it without needing to and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Point taken, but looking at most of the threads in the Q&A section...it seems that the LF's do more harm than good, especially if you aren't too sure about what you're doing.
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
The lag fix circumvents RFS in many areas.
Galaxy S phones have terrible I/O performance. Notably Database Read/Writes and apps that work generally hit the storage often.
Run Touchdown on a Galaxy S phone without a lag fix and you'll see how sluggish that application runs due to RFS. The workaround is to move the database to the external SD Card (which results in frequent corruptions) or install a lag fix.
It also causes the phone to take an inordinate amount of time to boot up (Media Scanning... etc.) and lag randomly when applications sync and access the storage to write data. It lags when Installing and Uninstalling applications from the Android market as well.
If you think a Lag Fix is only to boost Quadrant Scores (those scores are bunk, anyways), then perhaps you're using a different phone in a Vibrant casing.
There are several applications littered with "laggy on my Galaxy S" in the market.
Also, there is a bug in the Samsung Android 2.1 kernel that breaks some applications. That's why there are apps popping up saying you need 2.2 on your Galaxy S phone to run them (Skype, Yahoo Messenger, etc.).
My Vibrant, both before and after JI6, was laggy to the point of not being usable - until I applied RyanZA's OCLF (I removed OCLF and tried voodoo but soft-bricked the phone in the process). I've never run the Quadrant score analysis - all I care about is usability of the phone, and after the OCLF was applied my phone became usable.
I tried Axura 2.0.x with no lag fixes and, while my phone was generally faster than JI6 pre-lag fix, it still suffered from lag in many user interactions (opening apps, launching email, reading individual emails, using gallery, etc.) I went back to stock + JI6 via ODIN, reapplied OCLF, and was happy again.
Are there different hardware revisions of the Vibrant that might account for the differences in user experience? I've seen many posts from users who claim they never had any lag or GPS problems, and many more (like me) who have been plagued with them.
Most of those users are fanboys and wouldn't admit it even if they fot one of those 5+ second lockups while making their post.
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I'm curious... Do you apply/wanna apply a lag fix because your device is actually lagging or is it just the thing to do nowadays? I ask because I have never found a need for one. The only lag I had on the Vibrant was when I first took it out of the box and even that was kinda tolerable. But as things are right now, I really don't see how my device could get any faster and if it could...why? Quadrant scores? What is the real advantage (if any) to having it? .02¢
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It's cause the phone is laggy. I don't usr lag fixes because I don't lile tampering with phones at the system level, regardless, but I have freezes several times a day and have even had my phone completely lock up on me a couple of times - requiring a battery pull.
The less services you have running, and the less apps that sync data runnimg, the less the lag is. The lag happens mostly when the storagr is used (background syncing can cause it, for example).
Yes, people with no twit/fb/reader apps/accounts setup, among other things may be totally fine depending on their usage.
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Once you go Lag Fix you never go back! Lol
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It has made some apps actually usable.
Before the lag fix, the facebook app was basically unusable for me. Any action would have a 5-10 second pause before seeing a result.
Swipe to scroll, wait, click a picture, wait.
I think the facebook app was the worse for me because I did manual updates so every time I launched the app, it would be d/ling and writing while I was trying to scroll around and read stuff.
But in general, it has made my phone usable. Before I did the lag fix, I basically stopped using my phone because it got so annoying having to wait.
I've never run quadrant on my phone actually. I don't even really use root for anything. I did it primarily for the lag fix and the I changed my battery bar so that it's accurate. Everything else I'm happy with.
So, could this just be an issue that only certain phones have? Or, could some of it be mental? Like, if you hear enough ppl say that this is broken or that isn't working...you start to think that yours is broken also? I've never had an issue with gps...and I use foursquare and navigation on a regular basis. But everybody else seems to have broken gps.
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Yes, people with no twit/fb/reader apps/accounts setup, among other things may be totally fine depending on their usage.
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This makes sense. Everything besides my work email account is synced manually. FB, TD, etc. And when I get really busy I even cut my data off. But on the other hand, I text and browse constantly. And switch back and forth between appear running simultaneously. And when im not working...
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
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This makes sense. Everything besides my work email account is synced manually. FB, TD, etc. And when I get really busy I even cut my data off.
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hmm... I used a JFS lag fix for awhile, and it still hung slightly when syncing.
it did not seem better or worse really.
and the same thing happens on my mytouch so I think its just something that happens, lag fix running or not.
its really not that bothersome, but I do the same as you, I manually sync most everything.
I mean if I'm not looking at my facebook widget constantly, why should it be auto syncing?
lol it only takes a second to push the refresh button
but thats just me.
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It's cause the phone is laggy. I don't usr lag fixes because I don't lile tampering with phones at the system level, regardless, but I have freezes several times a day and have even had my phone completely lock up on me a couple of times - requiring a battery pull.
The less services you have running, and the less apps that sync data runnimg, the less the lag is. The lag happens mostly when the storagr is used (background syncing can cause it, for example).
Yes, people with no twit/fb/reader apps/accounts setup, among other things may be totally fine depending on their usage.
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I have 2 email account, syncmypix, weather apps & news updating every hour and i have never had any lag problems, even running on JI2 stock, much less ever had phone freezes. The ONLY time I had phone freezing was messing with those OC kernels, which I promptly uninstalled.
Let me ask people that run lag fixes this, when playing with the Vibrant at the t-mobile store, why did you choose buy it if you were experiencing this "lag", especially when it was running stock firmware?
edit: I also ran JFS lag fix for a day, but that drained my battery faster than a fat kid ate cake. It was not even noticeably faster either.
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So, could this just be an issue that only certain phones have? Or, could some of it be mental? Like, if you hear enough ppl say that this is broken or that isn't working...you start to think that yours is broken also? I've never had an issue with gps...and I use foursquare and navigation on a regular basis. But everybody else seems to have broken gps.
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Its not mental its on every phone. Unless lagfixed/hacked u have the same fileaystem as us.
The home switchers and unofficial roms are morw mental due to placebo effect - some lag fixes aren't even that good, but people claim tenfold improvements due to placebo effect...
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I have 2 email account, syncmypix, weather apps & news updating every hour and i have never had any lag problems, even running on JI2 stock, much less ever had phone freezes. The ONLY time I had phone freezing was messing with those OC kernels, which I promptly uninstalled.
Let me ask people that run lag fixes this, when playing with the Vibrant at the t-mobile store, why did you choose buy it if you were experiencing this "lag", especially when it was running stock firmware?
edit: I also ran JFS lag fix for a day, but that drained my battery faster than a fat kid ate cake. It was not even noticeably faster either.
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The phone T the store wasn't syncing a google and corp accoumt, plus facebook, plus twitter, and other apps. It simply wadn't prone to lagging, brcausr no user in their righy mind sets their **** up on a display unit just to test it.
Btw, "why didn't you test it for 10 min before you bought it" is getting old.
Their were no other good phones in t-mo when many of us broughy yhis. Couldn't just swap for a g2, mt4g, or hd7.
Many people thought an update would fix it, like the gps.
We were wrong, obviously.
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hmm... I used a JFS lag fix for awhile, and it still hung slightly when syncing.
it did not seem better or worse really.
and the same thing happens on my mytouch so I think its just something that happens, lag fix running or not.
its really not that bothersome, but I do the same as you, I manually sync most everything.
I mean if I'm not looking at my facebook widget constantly, why should it be auto syncing?
lol it only takes a second to push the refresh button
but thats just me.
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If not syncing, then you can miss direct message notifications on fb and twitter.
Symcing manually is unacceptable to many. Don't have to do that on other phones......
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Point taken, but looking at most of the threads in the Q&A section...it seems that the LF's do more harm than good, especially if you aren't too sure about what you're doing.
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
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If you have stock rom then oclf is best and I'm on Axura so my choice is voodoo but I've read it causes too many problems.
People should know what their doing before messing with stuff like that..
They have a forum here to ask all these questions but they do it themselves then when their phones screwed they ask questions...
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If not syncing, then you can miss direct message notifications on fb and twitter.
Symcing manually is unacceptable to many. Don't have to do that on other phones......
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I've done it on pretty much every phone I've owned, but like I said its not really nessicary, if anything its a slight stutter, but either way its not different than other android phones I've used (even my vibrant using a lag fix). its really just my preference to sync manually.
Hey so I've been toying around with the multi-tasking and might have a tip that works for you.
Would be interested to see if it helps others as well.
I removed panels from my home screen and it seems to have improved mult-tasking.
I personally don't need 7 panels...
Simply click the home button to get to the panel browser, long-press a panel and drag it to remove.
Does this help with anyone else or am I imagining things?
I have it set to only five panels and so multi tasking isn't any better.
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Hey so I've been toying around with the multi-tasking and might have a tip that works for you.
Would be interested to see if it helps others as well.
I removed panels from my home screen and it seems to have improved mult-tasking.
I personally don't need 7 panels...
Simply click the home button to get to the panel browser, long-press a panel and drag it to remove.
Does this help with anyone else or am I imagining things?
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Every little thing you do helps with memory. Live wallpaper? Memory, around 30MB. Widgets? Each widget takes up memory. I've had 1x1 brightness widgets take up 2MB each time. They'll add up.
So you can remove screens, remove those big ass HTC widgets, and keep things lean and you will save memory. Every bit counts on this phone because HTC has screwed it up.
To clarify, since you seem to think HTC screwed up, this phone has plenty of RAM. THAT isn't the issue with this multitasking. They made it too aggressive. I've heard that they fixed it on the One X, and I'm sure they'll apply a similar fix to us. And custom ROMs have fixed those problems as well. It isn't a hardware issue, it's a software issue.
Edit: that was directed at the poster above me, I thought I hit the quote button but I guess not.
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To clarify, since you seem to think HTC screwed up, this phone has plenty of RAM. THAT isn't the issue with this multitasking. They made it too aggressive. I've heard that they fixed it on the One X, and I'm sure they'll apply a similar fix to us. And custom ROMs have fixed those problems as well. It isn't a hardware issue, it's a software issue.
Edit: that was directed at the poster above me, I thought I hit the quote button but I guess not.
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Well reason cause the apps keeps closing so fast is not cause of the ram left, is because the way the phone saves more battery it kills apps like Facebook that used too much ram, I remember on OG evo days we did this too to make sure our phone lasted a full day or close to 12 hours now the htc did it everyone is piss and want them to "fixed it", anyways I do find it annoying sometimes but I feel like going back home and launch the app is much better then using recent apps sometimes ,
It would be nice if they gave u the option..I'd sacrifice some battery life if a panel would stay open without a reload within literally 10 secs..it def ruins multitasking..all multi tasking does now is bring u back to the app u were using and starting over ..
It's sad to say that HTC has implemented worst multitasking than even the iPhone has.
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Well reason cause the apps keeps closing so fast is not cause of the ram left, is because the way the phone saves more battery it kills apps like Facebook that used too much ram, I remember on OG evo days we did this too to make sure our phone lasted a full day or close to 12 hours now the htc did it everyone is piss and want them to "fixed it", anyways I do find it annoying sometimes but I feel like going back home and launch the app is much better then using recent apps sometimes ,
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It's both. There's not much available RAM at bootup because of all the extra crap HTC has put in there. And then on top of that, its overly aggressive app killer options. And then on top of that, its data/background process pause/kill for everything else.
But the RAM thing definitely doesn't help. All I know is when I boot up Sense 4 or boot up CM9 there's 150 on S4 and 390 on CM9 of free RAM. The other stuff hurts too, but RAM being low to start with (about 100MB less than the EVO 3D thanks to video memory) makes it worse.
For those saying "this phone has plenty of RAM" you're right if you never boot up. But once it boots up, 300 of it is gone for video RAM. The original 4G had about 100 go to that, and the 3D had about 200. So "plenty of RAM" means 700, which isn't a ton when you see how much Sense and HTC fills it.
I agree there is a multitasking problem and to bad HTC didn't have foresight to need a extra 512 of ram even... However I have grown use to the multitasking and while it is bad to a point doesn't bother me to much.
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I'm not seeing the problem here. If you back out of an app with the back button, Android kills the app; if you leave the app by pressing the home button, it retains the app. For the last week and a half or so, I've been reading A Game of Thrones via the Kindle app and press home to leave it every time. Whenever I fire it back up, it's right back on the page I left. I don't play any demanding games on my phone so I'm not sure if RAM is a bottleneck in that instance, but these phones aren't exactly staved for memory.
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I'm not seeing the problem here. If you back out of an app with the back button, Android kills the app; if you leave the app by pressing the home button, it retains the app. For the last week and a half or so, I've been reading A Game of Thrones via the Kindle app and press home to leave it every time. Whenever I fire it back up, it's right back on the page I left. I don't play any demanding games on my phone so I'm not sure if RAM is a bottleneck in that instance, but these phones aren't exactly staved for memory.
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When you use other apps is diferentes Like Tapatalk and Facebook
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It varies on the app. Browsers use much more and will trigger it quite a bit faster than most things.
It must certainly be dependent on the app, because I'm developing my own App and while testing I'm noticing that the tasker is not killing it. I can hit the home screen and be away for multiple hours, and open the app back up, and I will be at the same activity (screen) I left off at.
I meant it varies depending on what other apps you use. If you use apps that are all 30 mb it might take a bit. But open a browser and do 3 tabs or 1 tab with flash content and you'll have your old apps close.
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It would be nice if they gave u the option..I'd sacrifice some battery life if a panel would stay open without a reload within literally 10 secs..it def ruins multitasking..all multi tasking does now is bring u back to the app u were using and starting over ..
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Totally agree. It's very frustrating in my opinion.... Hopefully there's a fix soon for this.
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hows the os running on the s4? i've heard from other carriers that the s4 seemed laggy. not sure if it was the phone or 4.2.2 that caused this.
I'm not super highly sensitive to micro lag and all that shiz but this is sm0o0o0othness.
It was laggy during set up. It seems to have settled now.
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pretty smooth, but small hiccups occasionally
Touchwiz has its hiccups, but installing Nova Launcher eliminates all of that.
Same here, butter.
I found myself immediately installing the stock launcher after getting it. Worked great, but I went and un-installed it last night, and it seems to have cached everything. I haven't seen lag since. SMS App does lag slightly when switching through contacts, but that was to be expected.
On a side note, Am I the only one noticing how FAST this phone charges? 50% in 28 min? Holy crap
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Same here, butter.
I found myself immediately installing the stock launcher after getting it. Worked great, but I went and un-installed it last night, and it seems to have cached everything. I haven't seen lag since. SMS App does lag slightly when switching through contacts, but that was to be expected.
On a side note, Am I the only one noticing how FAST this phone charges? 50% in 28 min? Holy crap
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Butter..
Per charging. The stock charger is 5v 2amp! It charges it amazingly fast however using a computer or any of my other chargers it takes forever. In the case of charging via a computer I feel that it just beats the attrition of using it.
Mine has been incredibly smooth.
Horrible. The lag is extremely noticeable when using the stock SMS and gallery apps. I type a text message, hit back twice, and it takes about 0.5-1 second for what I hit to register. Even when going through the settings there is a noticeable delay, compared to my Note 2 running a custom ROM this thing is slooooowwww.
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Horrible. The lag is extremely noticeable when using the stock SMS and gallery apps. I type a text message, hit back twice, and it takes about 0.5-1 second for what I hit to register. Even when going through the settings there is a noticeable delay, compared to my Note 2 running a custom ROM this thing is slooooowwww.
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how does it compare to your note when it was stock?
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Horrible. The lag is extremely noticeable when using the stock SMS and gallery apps..
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These are the places I notice it the most. My stock SMS app was giving me hell for a while...constantly not responding. I'd hit back 3 times before it would do anything and then it was like fast forward. I have never used a stock SMS app...always GoSMS. I have been giving the stock apps a chance to use the smart features. When I restored my text messages to the S4 I recall it restoring like 17,000 messages. My GF talks a lot! I then realized that the stock app was giving me crap when I was in a thread that was very large. If I went in a new thread or smaller one it worked fine. I went in settings and changed it to 350 messages and 65 MMS and then delete. I assume it did that at some point because now it's moving smooth on all threads.
With the gallery app, none of them ever load the thumbnails right away. There's always some lag with gray boxes and then the thumbnail appears. This has been the case on all my phones....even Note 2.
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how does it compare to your note when it was stock?
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These are the places I notice it the most. My stock SMS app was giving me hell for a while...constantly not responding. I'd hit back 3 times before it would do anything and then it was like fast forward. I have never used a stock SMS app...always GoSMS. I have been giving the stock apps a chance to use the smart features. When I restored my text messages to the S4 I recall it restoring like 17,000 messages. My GF talks a lot! I then realized that the stock app was giving me crap when I was in a thread that was very large. If I went in a new thread or smaller one it worked fine. I went in settings and changed it to 350 messages and 65 MMS and then delete. I assume it did that at some point because now it's moving smooth on all threads.
With the gallery app, none of them ever load the thumbnails right away. There's always some lag with gray boxes and then the thumbnail appears. This has been the case on all my phones....even Note 2.
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I don't remember too much about my Note 2 when stock, but the gallery was extremely slow on that as well. I didn't notice a lag though when going between menus and so forth, so it seems to be a bit worse on the S4.
I used to use GoSMS, but they really went downhill IMO. Lots of spam texts, reminders about other Go software, hardly any free themes anymore, and it got more bloated and slow.
I haven't experienced any lag.
The stock S4 rom is about 2 GB (HUGE). Once we get some debloated roms I think we'll notice a big increase in speed.
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Sorry some of you have had or are having issues. I myself haven't seen any lag at all, it's been butter smooth. Also very snappy when i first got it yesterday but have since turned off about half or a little more of the smart stuff. This will be even more amazing once Dan releases the unlock bootloader and the custom ROMs hit.
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Sorry some of you have had or are having issues. I myself haven't seen any lag at all, it's been butter smooth. Also very snappy when i first got it yesterday but have since turned off about half or a little more of the smart stuff. This will be even more amazing once Dan releases the unlock bootloader and the custom ROMs hit.
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I've turned off every smart stay and airview feature on this phone, froze/uninstalled about 30 apps, and still have the lag. If you're coming from an older phone like the Thunderbolt, GNex, etc. this phone will seem really fast and smooth, but if you're coming from a new phone (especially one with a custom ROM) such as the S3 or Note 2, the S4 seems slower.
Butter here.
I'm running Nova Launcher. The stock messaging app does seem to stumble a tad with contacts but that is usual.
I have a friend running Slim ROM on his Note II, with Gapps the entire ROM is 97MB. I can barely notice the difference of mine and his and I haven't even rooted this yet. There is virtually no delay from tapping a button till it comes up I'm never waiting for anything. If I'm on it for like an hour I might see something barely stutter once or twice during that hour.
I think it is just from 1 phone to another. Some reviews have no lag in the phone at all while some ppl claim lag all over so I don't know.
I did have horrible lag when I first got it. It took several hours to download all my apps (about 30-40). Everything was soooo sloooow. Same keyboard issues mentioned above.
Once I got everything set up and cut off haptic and sound on keyboard, it's been smooth. Rooted on stock rom with nothing froze. But out of the box, it was pretty laggy.
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On paper this is the best galaxy s ever, we all know that, but I have had this phone for 2 weeks now, and I have had the worst android experience on any phone, I had owned every phone on the galaxy s line since the beginning.
I haven't seen any phone with more lags or software flaws than this one.
To begin, the wakeup lag, sometimes more than 10 secs for the phone to wakeup.
The sd card read/write lag, I change my sd card to a Samsung top notch one, and the lag is still noticeable.
Memory issues, I recreates thisnissues in may ways, open up a game (plants vs zombies 2) play for a couple of mins, lock the phone, and see if you can weke it up.
I noticed a bit more smotthnes after the updatw but still the performance on this phone is just awful.
I hope this is an isolated issue, but I have seen a lot of people complaining about the lag as well.
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Forgot to add the connection issues, I use the subway a lot, I have to put the phone in airplane mode and off to get reception back after getting off the subway, otherwise it will not refresh the connection by itself.
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Forgot to add the connection issues, I use the subway a lot, I have to put the phone in airplane mode and off to get reception back after getting off the subway, otherwise it will not refresh the connection by itself.
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Me toi
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livito said:
Forgot to add the connection issues, I use the subway a lot, I have to put the phone in airplane mode and off to get reception back after getting off the subway, otherwise it will not refresh the connection by itself.
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Me too. I can't tell you how many problems I've had with this phone. That's just one of the many.
I don't have any of these problems. Maybe its crapware your carrier loaded that's restricting it?
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Yes, it might be a "T-Mobile" version problem, I am pretty sure this are software related problems, I would like to see it running on a vanilla version of android, it has to be TouchWiz messing it up, but anyway, this had to be thoroughly tested before releasing it to the public, shame on T-Mobile/Samsung, hope a fix is on the way.
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Yes, it might be a "T-Mobile" version problem, I am pretty sure this are software related problems, I would like to see it running on a vanilla version of android, it has to be TouchWiz messing it up, but anyway, this had to be thoroughly tested before releasing it to the public, shame on T-Mobile/Samsung, hope a fix is on the way.
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Try using the international stock roms. On the S4, those were MUCH better that the US version roms. I know it requires rooting, but you'll probably be happier and it doesn't really matter if you're outside your return period anyway.
I don't have any of those problems either.
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Me neither
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Great phone, no issues, where did you buy yur phones?
I've had the phone for a while now and it hasn't lagged once, the fingerprint scanner works over 90% of the time, and signal is good as well. Yeah, the HR monitor is a total gimmick, but to say this phone is "the worst galaxy" is a bit extreme.
So either I got extremely lucky and got 2 phones without any problems, or some people are getting unlucky with their purchase.
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Yes, it might be a "T-Mobile" version problem, I am pretty sure this are software related problems, I would like to see it running on a vanilla version of android, it has to be TouchWiz messing it up, but anyway, this had to be thoroughly tested before releasing it to the public, shame on T-Mobile/Samsung, hope a fix is on the way.
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I have a feeling most of it is a T-mobile problem. However, I have a friend on another carrier (I think it's Verizon) and he hates his as well. Tons of problems.
i got no problem with mine S5, just love it.
I have the mysterious lag screen problem on wake!
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On paper this is the best galaxy s ever, we all know that, but I have had this phone for 2 weeks now, and I have had the worst android experience on any phone, I had owned every phone on the galaxy s line since the beginning.
I haven't seen any phone with more lags or software flaws than this one.
To begin, the wakeup lag, sometimes more than 10 secs for the phone to wakeup.
The sd card read/write lag, I change my sd card to a Samsung top notch one, and the lag is still noticeable.
Memory issues, I recreates thisnissues in may ways, open up a game (plants vs zombies 2) play for a couple of mins, lock the phone, and see if you can weke it up.
I noticed a bit more smotthnes after the updatw but still the performance on this phone is just awful.
I hope this is an isolated issue, but I have seen a lot of people complaining about the lag as well.
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Sometimes, no matter what I've tried, I'll be using the phone and let the screen turn off, When I push the home button, nothing, the phone is still running but I can't see anything, I try to use the power button and again nothing, I have to pull the battery and restart the phone to get it working. There is a group of people that are experiencing the problem and at first people thought it may be SD card related but it is not conclusive at this point. It will work fine sometimes for days, then all of a sudden pull the above mentioned crap.
Exactly, onlast Sunday every time I locked the screen it would never wakeup, I had to remove the battery like 3 times, it has been OK for the las 2 days though, but this is frustrating, I mean, I haven't even rooted the phone yet, I read that 4.4.3 is on its way, hope that addresses these performance issues.
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Yes I agree this phone is very laggy specially the camera they send me a "new" phone and the problem still there, also i usually charge it at night
and this morning the screen was on the boot screen logo i had to remove the battery it sucks
So, I keep researching the reasons of why some of us have this issues, today I went to the "t-mobile my account" app, went to options and deselected all the options (ALL OF THEM), and I notice the fun is a lot smoother, probably the placebo effect, but I will keep trying for a couple of days, if you guys want give it a try.
No issues here, touch wood, using T-Mobile phone on AT&T network.
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I've only had the phone for about a week but it's amazing so far, I upgraded from a S2. I play Ingress constantly and lately I've been able to play for 4+ hours at a time before needing to recharge and that's just on the stock battery. I removed all the bloatware I could and turned most everything off just to try and squeeze out every little bit of battery life. The only thing bugging me about the phone so far is that root would void my warranty and I'm a little upset about that but meh, it's not like I ever needed it I'm just a little worried because the phone is so new. I might just wait until the 12 months is up and root the phone then. So far I don't really have a reason to need root but I'm sure that desire will gain in traction as new tools for the device get released. I'm mostly thinking about mods like Cyagenmod, that will be one of the reasons I root and break Knox if I do before the warranty.
livito said:
On paper this is the best galaxy s ever, we all know that, but I have had this phone for 2 weeks now, and I have had the worst android experience on any phone, I had owned every phone on the galaxy s line since the beginning.
I haven't seen any phone with more lags or software flaws than this one.
To begin, the wakeup lag, sometimes more than 10 secs for the phone to wakeup.
The sd card read/write lag, I change my sd card to a Samsung top notch one, and the lag is still noticeable.
Memory issues, I recreates thisnissues in may ways, open up a game (plants vs zombies 2) play for a couple of mins, lock the phone, and see if you can weke it up.
I noticed a bit more smotthnes after the updatw but still the performance on this phone is just awful.
I hope this is an isolated issue, but I have seen a lot of people complaining about the lag as well.
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PEBKAC
I usually do not root my tablets, but I am thinking about rooting my nexus 9. I really enjoy nexus products and I love htc products so I thought the Nexus 9 would be great, but the lag that this tablet has is horrible. I read that it might be hardware issue, since the processor uses denver, but I also heard it might be software related. So I want to ask if the guys who have rooted their tablet experienced less lag or not? If you happen to experience less lag then I would be more inclined to root the tablet. Thanks.
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Rooting is not going to change wether it lags or not.
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jd1639 said:
Rooting is not going to change wether it lags or not.
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OK maybe I should have been more clear... I want to know if some people who had rooted and flashed a custom aosp room noticed less lag or not... Is the lag driven from a software issue or because of the new architecture of the processor?
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cables2590 said:
OK maybe I should have been more clear... I want to know if some people who had rooted and flashed a custom aosp room noticed less lag or not... Is the lag driven from a software issue or because of the new architecture of the processor?
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Ok, it helps to be clear. Rooting and flashing are two different things. You can flash a rom without rooting. I'm on stock and have not noticed any significant lag. When you have lag check in developer options, process stats. See where your memory is. If it's in critical clear out open tabs.
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Ok, it helps to be clear. Rooting and flashing are two different things. You can flash a rom without rooting. I'm on stock and have not noticed any significant lag. When you have lag check in developer options, process stats. See where your memory is. If it's in critical clear out open tabs.
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OK that does make sense and I'll keep an eye on that, but when I checked now, my memory is in normal condition... However, it is on the closer side of critical though, so that might explain that I experience lag when I open a bigger app... I'm not completely used to the way lollipop multitask
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This has got to be the worst device I have had for lag issues, even trying to get back to the home screen can take 10-15 seconds.
jkr284 said:
This has got to be the worst device I have had for lag issues, even trying to get back to the home screen can take 10-15 seconds.
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Okay, I guess here's something wrong with your device. My N9 never takes this much time to return to the home screen. Occasionally there are some short breaks when returning to the home screen of approximately 2 - 3 seconds...
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This has got to be the worst device I have had for lag issues, even trying to get back to the home screen can take 10-15 seconds.
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Yeah that don't sound right Currently mine lag for 2 seconds the most... I just feel like it should not lag... It does seem however that putting a custom rom helps a little... Just my two sense
I have a lot installed on my nexus 9 but my nexus 6 has the same apps and even more installed. The Nexus 6 is instant and buttery smooth. My nexus 9 also can take a while to screen rotate.
The Nvidia chipset is very driver dependent, therefore software dependent. Read the Anandtech reiew article and it will clarify why there are short pauses/freezes sometimes with the N9.
Let's hope 5.1 fixes this...
you want nasty lag, goto htc's N9 web page.. I've not seen a poorly coded webpage with that type of lag in ages.
I know, its not the lag you are talking about , but I had to say something about it someplace ?
http://www.htc.com/us/tablets/nexus-9/
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I don't notice lag on my N9, but I just came from using my N7 2012. Its horrible, so my 9 seems supercharged. I do have freeze ups in Chrome occasionally, but that's about it. I must not max out my memory enough.
Wiping the cache seemed to help a little. I'm going to sell my Nexus 9. For a flagship reference there shouldn't be any lag. I'm sticking to Qualcomm chip set for now.
I have never rooted my N9 and got my device in Nov. I'm running the latest 5.01 and started to notice lag creeping in every 30 - 45 seconds (for no apparent reason). It wasn't very noticeable surfing the web or navigating the tablet but became very apparent playing games. Power cycling the device did nothing.. I was hoping the 5.1 update would solve the problem but grew too impatient waiting for it to arrive so I decided to flash the stock 5.01 image onto my device (from google site). All the lag is gone now, games that were previously unplayable due to the lag are now buttery smooth again. Not sure what caused the lag to begin with but stock 5.01 image reflashing solved my problems.
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I have never rooted my N9 and got my device in Nov. I'm running the latest 5.01 and started to notice lag creeping in every 30 - 45 seconds (for no apparent reason). It wasn't very noticeable surfing the web or navigating the tablet but became very apparent playing games. Power cycling the device did nothing.. I was hoping the 5.1 update would solve the problem but grew too impatient waiting for it to arrive so I decided to flash the stock 5.01 image onto my device (from google site). All the lag is gone now, games that were previously unplayable due to the lag are now buttery smooth again. Not sure what caused the lag to begin with but stock 5.01 image reflashing solved my problems.
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Yeah a few people has mentioned that flashing the stock image helped out quit a bit, but I'm running a rooted version of 5.1 and it's running great... Which I think means it's the memory leak causing the issue, and even though there is still a memory leak on 5.1 it's much better...
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In my case I don't think it was the memory leak issue causing the lag. If that was the case then power cycling the device would have resolved the issue momentarily. But it did not. The lag was consistently present regardless of the numbers of power cycles and clearing of all "recent apps".
I can understand the frustration some have voiced in the forums making it sound like the N9 is plagued with issues. Re-flashing stock 5.01and bringing back my tablet to the same state (reinstalled all apps again) it was in solved my problems. Hopefully the 5.1 OTA fixes whatever lag has been introduced with previous updates.
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Which I think means it's the memory leak causing the issue, and even though there is still a memory leak on 5.1 it's much better...
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The lag is getting annoying.