[Q] ICS switch builds: wipe or not, is titanium safe - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Wanting to switch between Turl and jokersax ICS builds.
Is titanium confirmed 100% working on ICS? i.e. I can do a full wipe data, format system, data, cache, dalvik, flash and then restore missing apps/system settings via titanium?
Or just restore individual apps (not system settings)?
Or is it safe to just wipe cache/dalvik and flash over?
Anyone that switches between the two, much appreciate your feedback.
Last time I did so I formatted everything for clean install, but I had just been running jokersax for less than a day so didnt care about restoring anything. However now I have turl setup nicely and don't want to have to bother redoing my homescreen, apps etc.

TiBu worked fine for me on both.
You should however never restore system settings after flashing a new ROM. Even though both CM9 versions are very similar, you do not know exactly what is all different, and may cause issues.
Better to just create a nandroid backup of each one and restore from those.

Related

[Q] Restore applications and settings after 1.4 upgrade

one quick question in setting up the upgrade from 1.3d to 1.4:
When using Titanium Backup, I back up all user apps + system apps.
Once upgraded to 1.4 can I restore also system apps, or I can mess something doing this? It's better to restore only user apps?
Thanks
You don't need to use any apps to restore after upgrade. All the apps should still be there if u only did an upgrade without a reformat factory settings
Thanks but if I understand correctly the Dexter's instructions, he recommends to do a Wipe (Factory Reset) before and after installing the ROM. In such a case, I guess that all apps and settings will be lost. And then, it is when I gess I need to restore from a previous backup or otherwise I would need to restore everything manually, app by app.
Even if you don't wipe out you apps and data, it maybe be better if you do a backup in case something goes wrong... Bad things happens when we least expect
OK, but my original question remains:
Once upgraded to 1.4 (and making a wipe) can I restore also system apps by using Titanium Backup, or I can mess something doing this? It's better to restore only user apps?
What system apps that you want to back up with Titanium? I recommend you to check the change log from each of Dexter version to see if any of your system apps is being changed in the new update or not. If it's changed in the new update then don't back up it, otherwise it's safe to do so.
OK, thanks. That's what I did.
Since after installing the ROM, all applications there were the ones coming with the ROM, I didn't restore any existing app, assuming it is already the last and correct version. I was therefore restoring only those missing, and it worked fine. The only problem, I guess, is that by doing this way I didn't restore the app data for those apps coming with the ROM. Not a major problem.

[Q] Flashing ROM update, apps2sd issue.

Hi all.
I'm looking to update my version of xtrSENSE from 4.6.5 to the newest 5.0.1 version. My issue is that I have enabled apps2sd on my current version, and have far more apps installed than available stock app memory on the phone. Titanium Backup is up to date, as is a complete Nandroid+ext backup. The install instructions for the rom suggest wiping factory/data reset, dalvik cache, and ext partition. So my question is, will wiping the ext partition on my sd card cause me to lose all my apps/data? What sort of order should I follow in terms of booting, wiping, restoring, etc.
Thanks for any help in advance.
There is no reason to wipe if you are installing over another version of xtrSENSE.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12129548&postcount=1764
thirtynation said:
Hi all.
I'm looking to update my version of xtrSENSE from 4.6.5 to the newest 5.0.1 version. My issue is that I have enabled apps2sd on my current version, and have far more apps installed than available stock app memory on the phone. Titanium Backup is up to date, as is a complete Nandroid+ext backup. The install instructions for the rom suggest wiping factory/data reset, dalvik cache, and ext partition. So my question is, will wiping the ext partition on my sd card cause me to lose all my apps/data? What sort of order should I follow in terms of booting, wiping, restoring, etc.
Thanks for any help in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you pay for Titanium Backup, use the Batch option to backup all your User Apps and Data, but NOT System Data.
From recovery, wipe Factory/Data/Dalvik and flash the new xtrSENSE.
Set up the ROM with at least the basics including running the Apps2SD Gscript and so on. Reboot if necessary (don't recall if it is needed for Apps2SD but can't hurt).
Install Titanium Backup and Batch restore User Apps and Data.
Reboot again if necessary and should be 'voila!
doogald said:
There is no reason to wipe if you are installing over another version of xtrSENSE.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12129548&postcount=1764
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw that, but I know the instructions have also said that it's always best to wipe for best results. The fact that I'm skipping a version also makes me weary of not wiping. I suppose I could try and always restore the nandroid...
Still, if I were to go about it the OCD way.. My apps are still intact in the Titanium Backup, correct? Just wipe factory/dalvik/ext, flash the new rom, set up my partition and apps2sd, then restore them all via TiB?
thirtynation said:
I saw that, but I know the instructions have also said that it's always best to wipe for best results. The fact that I'm skipping a version also makes me weary of not wiping. I suppose I could try and always restore the nandroid...
Still, if I were to go about it the OCD way.. My apps are still intact in the Titanium Backup, correct? Just wipe factory/dalvik/ext, flash the new rom, set up my partition and apps2sd, then restore them all via TiB?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, but I would still recommend (since you have a Nandroid and a TiBu backup) to just flash over. If it's messed up, you can just go back and do a full wipe instead.
I've flashed xtrSENSE over stock and it worked just fine.
Definitely do a nandroid before whatever you try. Easiest way to get back. Otherwise, yes at least if you use Titanium Backup to backup your apps and data if you want it...

Help, Apps on cm7 keep force closing

Hi,
I accidently posted this question in the general section, but i think it is more appropriate here. I am running the 07/18 cm7 rom, and after a seemingly random amount of time (anywhere from instantly to 24 hours) after a reflash, or nandroid restore all my apps begin to force close, generally starting with gapps. once the apps start FC there is really no recourse but to restore the phone or try to reflash. i have tried wiping the cache and dalvik, both individually and together, as well as fixing permissions, but none of these options resolves the problem. I have also tried installing all my apps via the market to see if it was titanium backup corrupting backups, but again the phone started crashing. For the life of me i cannot figure this out and i was hoping that someone smarter than i could lend some insight.
Thanks
Same here
I'm actually getting the same problem! I have no idea what the problem is. At first it started with Gapps FC-ing, and now pretty much no apps I have work. Even my Gizmodo app, which is really just a link to the Gizmodo website.
Any ideas?
I tried rebooting .. It works for a little while then the problem continues.
Not sure if your cases are similar to mine.
I made nandroid backup for CM7 and flashed Vanilla GB with wiping dalvik/cache, but without wiping data.
Without wiping data, VGB showed continuous error messages related to foce closing...
Again wiping all three fixed that issue. So wiping data may be necessary.
After restoring my old data with nandroid (data only), it happened again.
I reallized that nandroid restoring was really painful with CM7 or VGB.
My final solution which worked fine was Titanium Backup for restoring old data rather than nandroid.
Nandroid backup is working fine when converting all system, for instance, from CM7 to VGB or vice versa, with wiping data.
Even in this case, you have to restore contacts and calendar separately to SD card using export option.
Nandroid or even Titanium Backup didn't recover my contacts under CM7 or VGB environments.
Hope to help you.
You should always, always wipe data, cache, and dalvik vm cache between flashes, especially if going between roms that utilize different file systems. Otherwise it will be fc city. To fix yours, back up your apps with Titanium, boot into CWM and wipe data/cache/dalvik, reflash ROM and gapps, then boot up and restore only user apps
(not system apps).

[Q] Installing new ROM and Kernels

I just recently rooted the phone, and was not planning to replace the stock ROM, but in the last couple of days, I've been reconsidering this. BUt I do have some questions:
1. Can the new ROM be flashed as an "upgrade", IE, not loose everything and have to re-install apps.
2. I've had my eye on the Shooter XE or the Olympus XE ROMs, the instructions say I need to do a complete wipe before installing. Is that necessary?
3. What about updated Kernels? I'm curently running 1.11.651.3, and there's a newer version available here (Stock 1.13.651.7). Will updating to this newer kernel mess up my existing data?
4. Is there a way to backup all my apps, settings, data etc, then restore it all automatically. Titanium Backup can let you back everything up, including all the system bits and pieces, but how do I know what to back up and restore without doing any damage to the new system (like over-writing new settings and files with old ones)
Yes you must do a full wipe when changing ROMs. If you are installing a newer version of the same ROM then you can just wipe cache and dalvik cache and you won't lose anything. When using Titanium Backup it is a bad idea to restore any system apps. Stick to backing up and restoring user apps only and you will be good to go. It may backup the system apps, but I would advise to only restore the user apps. As far as your settings go, your Google account keeps them backed up if you allow it to and will restore them to your new ROM if you choose that option. Every ROM has a kernel. If you are flashing a custom kernel then just wipe cache and dalvik cache and flash the kernel. You will not lose any data when flashing a kernel by itself.

Quick question about switching ROMs

If I am switching ROMs of the same build, lets say CM10 7/23 build to a future unofficial CM10 build, would it be necessary to do a data wipe and factory reset?
Necessary? Probably not. A good idea? Probably yes.
Okay so similarly if I go to CM10 from another Rom wipe data and reset... but if I backup my with Titanium Backup what is recommended to be restored after flash? All system data + apps + app data, just apps and data or just apps. If I have contacts backed up to email etc, photos and such data stored elsewhere... would it be recommended to use the least amount of data restored from last install to the new Rom? I just donr want to load wrong values upon restoring my apps. I don't mind if app data or system data is factory reset but not if unnecessary and only if its not a prob and won't mess up any Ron specific settings.

Categories

Resources