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Why htc evo 3d is 1.2 ghz when the MSM8660 is 1.5 ghz natively?
And if i'll overclock it to 1.5 ghz the processor will have less life?
Thanks.
The 3vo is an overall less stable phone so if they set it any higher it might as well be a brick
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every one of my current kernels run the cpu @ the qualcomm spec'ed speed by default
for the 3d, it is 1.51GHz
not 1 person has had an issue with this... and stability is solid
Its not uncommon for manufacturer to underclock processors for overall performance improvement and battery life.
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Its not uncommon for manufacturer to underclock processors for overall performance improvement and battery life.
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They do it for stability and to keep heat down along with battery life in mind
Same goes for all CPU or video cards for the pc or laptops heat and stability . It's what ran best at the factory when it was designed .
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So i can overclock it to 1.5 ghz but it will have less life time.
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So i can overclock it to 1.5 ghz but it will have less life time.
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You can do what you want man lol just the more you up the CPU the more battery it will use also if you don't do it right it can burn it up. So just be careful .
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if you look at qualcomm`s website you will notice that they state that it is clocked at 1.5ghz. I have been running it and it reduces lag with minimal battery drain. because it was built to clock at 1.5ghz it will run at optimal efficiency at this speed. what causes instability is over and under volting.
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The 3vo is an overall less stable phone so if they set it any higher it might as well be a brick
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I don't know where you get your info from about the 3VO being an already unstable phone to begin with, and setting it to manufacturer standards will only make the phone a "brick."
I really hope that was a troll post and not from a real 3VO owner.
Most ROMS you find, O/C to 1.5ghz anyway. Stability? Pffft.
mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
LoKKeR said:
mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
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Stock speed is what it was designed for . I wouldn't mess with things. You can if you want but whenever you bump the CPU up it does tend to use more battery among heat.
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LoKKeR said:
mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
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its rated for 1.5ghz -on the reference system-, if a builder make a system which dont follow reference board specifics it has to adjust something to make for it, in this case clock speed.
as generally builder are required to leave a lot of leeway in their specs you shouldnt have problems, just a processor a bit warmer than what specs require and which use more battery than for htc specs.
yet keep in mind that you arent using it as for -htc- specs (which supersedes the cpu maker) so you arent covered by warranty if something goes wrong.
LoKKeR said:
mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
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I'm running my EVO at 1.5ghz for 2 months now, and I dont experience any of the mentioned issues, NO extra heat.(maybe because of the winter temperature ), NO battery drains.
Remember that there is a cpu governor which manages the cpu ghz as per the use demands.
Hope this will satisfy your concerns.
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jacobsaleh said:
I'm running my EVO at 1.5ghz for 2 months now, and I dont experience any of the mentioned issues, NO extra heat.(maybe because of the winter temperature ), NO battery drains.
Remember that there is a cpu governor which manages the cpu ghz as per the use demands.
Hope this will satisfy your concerns.
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Lol I agree cause of the winter... Tho the kernel depends on who messed with it some folks tweak things and other can tweak it to run all the time at a certain speed which isn't good to do all the time..
ya i think HTC did it just to squeeze some more life out of these batteries.
Mmmm... Ok that's right. But you haven't answered to my question >.< Overclock to 1.5 Ghz will ruin the cpu?? Will have the cpu less life time?
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Mmmm... Ok that's right. But you haven't answered to my question >.< Overclock to 1.5 Ghz will ruin the cpu?? Will have the cpu less life time?
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No
There ya go.
It's possibile that gpu can be bricked?! With anthrax kernel.
No
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
how do you know? will you refound him if you are wrong?
dont just give false assurance if you cant put your money were you put your mouth..
1.2 ghz are what the hardware designer set as specs, anything else is a risk - minimal but still there is a chance that something will go wrong and if it happens its not covered by warranty as you are running the thing out of specs.
so its the owner choice, the risk its really small, nearly irrilevant but you cant tell him that there isnt any.
All benchmarks I run show no improvement under .28. Quadrant is much worse as I got 4900 on .21 and the highest I can get now is a 3700...and that's while overclocked to 1.6ghz. Not sure what has changed to cause this but WOW that's a big shift!
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Yeah, this is another failed update to TF201. At first I thought it was performing better, but I think that was the 'update placebo'. I'm noticing more lag and benchmarks are doing worse as well.
No improvement?
I've got Over 5100 in Quadrant. Rooted, overclocked to 1600Mhz.
I have got around 4200 in quadrant, that sits just above where the average tf201 sits. But what has to be done to achieve what the One X gets. I know the I/o and storage may change but the CPU and graphics should be about the same right, its basically the same Tegra 3 isn't it?
With .21 and previous firmware versions I got 11.600 as max score for Antutu. Overclocked to 1.6 ghz and CFG as governor (ATP tweak).
With .28 I score 12500 points. Surely a significant improvement!
p.s.: I have better scores with cfg over noop.
I've just benchmarked my Prime on .28 and got 13201 on Antutu and 5182 with quadrant.
I have an issue with the camera at the moment so ASUS asked me to do a hard reset.
These numbers are on a clean install, newly rooted and overclocked to 1.6
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Mine is running smother than before and everything seems more snappy.... But man I hate when it ruins a day of playing quadrant....
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You guys really really on quadrant scores? These things are well known to not be accurate or represent real world results.
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Quadrant 4200
Antutu 10200
NoOC Stock rooted .28.
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cyiam40 said:
All benchmarks I run show no improvement under .28. Quadrant is much worse as I got 4900 on .21 and the highest I can get now is a 3700...and that's while overclocked to 1.6ghz. Not sure what has changed to cause this but WOW that's a big shift!
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Quadrant pull 5185 for me.
My settings are:
Stock/rooted/.28
In developer option : force gpu rendering
Atp tweak : cfq scheduler. Overclocked at turbo 2 (1.6 ghz)
System tuner: governor set to userspace with min n max frequency set to 1.6 ghz to get all 4 cores online.
So, after seeing other results, I examined my Prime to find out why my Quadrant score was so low. I found that I recently upgraded to Quadrant Advanced and got a score of 3700. I reinstalled Quadrant Standard and achieved a 5100 also, which is better than the previous score of 4900 with .21. :>)
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what are the sqllite scores after .28?
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I trust the truth that my Prime is so smooth and stable. I dont believe in benchmark.
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1.6 cfq performance.. so far benching better than older firmwares on my Prime
Guess what... I cant even run quadrant because all I get is ANR.............
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I'm running AndroWook Prime 1.35 (based off of .28) & got these scores in performance mode with an interactive gov. & cfq:
Antutu 13905
Quadrant 5449
Previous highs on .21 were:
Antutu: 13785
Quandrant: 5507
Marginal differences, but there you go.
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WTF!
I don't trust benchmark but this buried me alive..!
Antutu at 13008 with overclock at 1.6 on stock rom..
here's mine. pure stock, neither overclocked nor rooted.
I know I should be taking a pinch of salt, but I'm disappointed with the performance even without the benchmark results.
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Just checking,but under antutu CPU master,or setcpu,and Rom manager pro..it only showes 1 core ..my quadrant are around 3500 ..s-off running newts rl3,,,txs
Whoa...a lotof views,,but nut sure either
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I don't think I have an answer, but you have to ask a question before you get an answer.
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takota6 said:
Just checking,but under antutu CPU master,or setcpu,and Rom manager pro..it only showes 1 core ..my quadrant are around 3500 ..s-off running newts rl3,,,txs
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I was running newts rls1 and getting 3600 quadrant and 6500+ antutu. When I switched to rls3 everything went down...so back to rls1 for me.
Other people have pointed out and I find this to work, that if you use setcpu and check "enable profiles", the 2nd core is turned on. I went ahead and set a screen off profile of 192/192 (max/min). I"m experimenting with these values, though. It seems I can knock down my mA use (per Battery Monitor Widget) by using the profile. The cpu does appear to be scaling properly. Many people have said not to use any of these cpu things and I did have some trouble with setcpu previously but it seems to be doing its thing with RLS1 anyway.
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Just checking,but under antutu CPU master,or setcpu,and Rom manager pro..it only showes 1 core ..my quadrant are around 3500 ..s-off running newts rl3,,,txs
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Programs probably just are't reading it right.
Speaking generally, the 2nd core will sit idle until needed, so it may be 'offline' when those apps check.
Until we get custom kernels/kernel source, there isn't much that can be done about it.
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Lunatic summed it up perfectly. There are 2 cores, but the applications can't "see" them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1496934 If you read through this thread the OP talks about the mpdecision not working properly. Basically it's the file that governs when both cores are on etc. It is something that can affect synthetic benches, but not real world performance. Probably why current ****s given by HTC = 0. Quadrant = trash and benches are for jerking off to numbers which generally is not an indicative to device performance. But whatever floats your boat I suppose .
Kool txs every1,,and I do use benchmarks to how my current Rom or tweak us working,,most of us are visual and need a program to tell us how it is..but I'm glad there s alot of hardcore peps to do the schooling
Perflock. There is no CPU management. Using setcpu doesn't do anything...its all in your head.
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It's like using a condom with a hole in it. There's no purpose for it, it'll only cause problems or children.
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If you use setcpu or similar and change pretty much any settings it should force the second core to do work.
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Like a couple others have said kernel source is the answer
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I just wanted to ask people because many kernels force 1.15 GHZ frequency and I wanted to ask people what do you think about it,is it safe or not and did anyone do stress test with SetCPU and is phone overheating with it.
Thanks,XperianPro.
It can do damage after a certain time. If you have it set for a long time on that frequency it will overheat! It is safe but as long as you don't use always use it. You should use it only to speed up some tasks! There is a reason why they have chosen not to set it as max frequency on stock rom.
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It can do damage after a certain time. If you have it set for a long time on that frequency it will overheat! It is safe but as long as you don't use always use it. You should use it only to speed up some tasks! There is a reason why they have chosen not to set it as max frequency on stock rom.
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the same ideal with u, i dont think it wll be safe for a long -time using.
I think Your CPU will be damaged when u used 1.15Ghz for a long time day to day
if the voltage used for getting 1.15ghz is the same as 1.0ghz then there is no difference...any heating up will be a minimal increase over the stock, if any
if voltage is higher...then i would imagine it would have an affect after some time as others stated
15% overclock is a joke, my Galaxy Mini was overclocked over 40% (from 600MHz to 864MHz, but i used 800MHz almost all the time), was hot like hell and still works fine now after almost 2 years and shows no signs of stopping
Unless you want your phone to last 20 years, YES, 1.15GHz is perfectly fine by me.
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15% overclock is a joke, my Galaxy Mini was overclocked over 40% (from 600MHz to 864MHz, but i used 800MHz almost all the time), was hot like hell and still works fine now after almost 2 years and shows no signs of stopping
Unless you want your phone to last 20 years, YES, 1.15GHz is perfectly fine by me.
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thats because Galaxy mini was Downclocked by samsung
other samsung devices wich have exactly the same cpu gpu are 800mhz at stock
and they can be ocd to 970MHz
galaxy mini can run those 800 mhz freqs easily because they downclocked the device
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SpaceCaker said:
thats because Galaxy mini was Downclocked by samsung
other samsung devices wich have exactly the same cpu gpu are 800mhz at stock
and they can be ocd to 970MHz
galaxy mini can run those 800 mhz freqs easily because they downclocked the device
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That CPU on that board was designed to run at 600MHz, so you can't call it a downclocked CPU. Galaxy Ace and Mini had the same chipset, but the CPU itself wasn't completely the same. Not all Galaxy Minis where able to go 800MHz+
Same could be said for our Xperia U, Galaxy S2 has a dual-core Cortex A9 CPU running at 1.2GHz, so does that make our CPU downclocked? Ofcourse it doesn't, because the SoC is completely different, although the cores might be the same.
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thats because Galaxy mini was Downclocked by samsung
other samsung devices wich have exactly the same cpu gpu are 800mhz at stock
and they can be ocd to 970MHz
galaxy mini can run those 800 mhz freqs easily because they downclocked the device
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I have some Questions
How can u call it a downclock when it supposed to be 600 mhz as I know
And why could Samsung downclock the phone it is better to make it 800MHZ then
I think overclock is different between all chipset
Just like snabdragon and and our ****tyThor cpu
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I have some Questions
How can u call it a downclock when it supposed to be 600 mhz as I know
And why could Samsung downclock the phone it is better to make it 800MHZ then
I think overclock is different between all chipset
Just like snabdragon and and our ****tyThor cpu
And sorry for my English
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the phones with same cpu are all running 800mhz at default but because mini and fit where low end phones they downclocked the cpus
so the people who wanted faster phone buyes phone with more mhz
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the phones with same cpu are all running 800mhz at default but because mini and fit where low end phones they downclocked the cpus
so the people who wanted faster phone buyes phone with more mhz
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That's how you make money! :sly:
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15% overclock is a joke, my Galaxy Mini was overclocked over 40% (from 600MHz to 864MHz, but i used 800MHz almost all the time), was hot like hell and still works fine now after almost 2 years and shows no signs of stopping
Unless you want your phone to last 20 years, YES, 1.15GHz is perfectly fine by me.
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B**** please, my Galaxy 3 was overclocked from 667 MHz to 1400 MHz and it still works
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it is safe enough, my old xperia play was running at 1.8 ghz all the time, and it just works fine, till the screen broke (dropped the phone)
that cpu was designed to run at 1,0 ghz.
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it is safe enough, my old xperia play was running at 1.8 ghz all the time, and it just works fine, till the screen broke (dropped the phone)
that cpu was designed to run at 1,0 ghz.
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Well my old live with walkman worked to on 2.0 GHz but I could feel overheat remember that this is Novathor not Qualcomm.
So anyone brave enough to test phone with stresstest on 1.15 GHz for about two hours?
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There are kernel that boost cpu to 1.3 ghz... so 1.15ghz is safe for me
I read somewhere, that max safe frequency for NovaThor U8500 is 1,2 Ghz. So 1,15 Ghz should be safe enough.
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It's safe i'm using my phone for almost 2 weeks at 1,15 Ghz and not a signle problem, not even overheat! I say it's 99.9% safe.
I am using 1.15ghz from about 3 months and no problems at all
I have been using 1.15 ghz for months now and I play games quite frequently and it has been safe and stable for me
I Think that the Novathor U8500 in focus, can be easly OC to 1.15 GHz without having particular trouble in fact of stability or hw issues, as it is capable of a theorical max of 1.2 GHZ ( as seen in some websites on fast google search "NovaThor U8500 max freq" )
.Hoping this is real, remember that this may affect nor the voltage but the steps that the governor has to do before reach the 1.15 GHz. Some good kernel, as most of the JB Designed kernel are set by default to max 1.15GHz.
I've been trying to figure out which saves more battery life. Will running a phone on one core while keeping it clocked at.. let's say 1.7 GHz (my phone's stock clock speed) save more battery than keeping all cores active while being clocked at 900 MHz?
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