My contract with Verizon ends this week. Really thinking hard about switching from Verizon to AT&T to get this phone. I went and played with one at the store yesterday. Screen was amazing! I have unlimited data with Verizon right now and thats the only thing holding me back right now. Anyone make the switch and care to comment.
Had the iphone and other android phone with verizon madebthe switch day one the Gnote came out And love it i also had unlimited data l and gave it up just got 5 gbs and i dont thin it will.make a big difference As im on wifi at home most of the time butbi rarely hit 5 gbs while on verizon but the GNote is totally worth the switch to AT&T specially if yu got LTE in your city
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I did the same thing! The note is the craziest phone ever! I'm in the same boat I usually use wi fi at home so it wasn't a huge deal to go down to 3 gigs a month. Plus the deal killer with verizon was the spotty 4G lte coverage. If I switched from lte to 3g I was losing data for about 5 minutes at a time, or I would lose it altogether! I complained so much they let me out of my contract almost 2 years early. Best thing I ever did!
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Well major bummer! Was excited to switch to AT&T this week for the Note. Thought my contract was up on the 15th. Seems I'm eligible for a discount on the 15th and my contract goes through July. I'll be keeping an eye on this forum and if the Note/Journal or whatever they might call it doesn't make it Verizon by then...see ya Verizon!
I'm making the switch and can't wait. I'm also giving up unlimited data but have never used that much data anyway. That may change when I get this phone because I may have better HSPZ+ and LTE coverage .
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My contract with Verizon is up in June.
If no news on the Journal by then: it's AT&T and The Note.
Been with Verizon for eleven years. First and only carrier.
Swedishmafia;23519403 Plus the deal killer with verizon was the spotty 4G lte coverage.[/QUOTE said:
You find ATT's LTE coverage less spotty than Verizon?
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I LOVE my note, but if I wasn't locked into AT&T I would have looked hard at the galaxy nexus. I'd miss the bigger screen of the note, but the nexus screen is pretty big as well, and it's always nice to have a google phone. It's still LTE, already running ICS, and probably will have better/more sustained devleopment over its lifetime. Plus, I think overall verizon coverage is a little better and more reliable, although in my area, AT&T is fine.
A potential upside to AT&T is that if you are in an area where Verizon doesn't have LTE, I think (but I'm not sure) that Verizon falls back to CDMA, which is slower than even 3G on AT&T. But if you don't have LTE on AT&T, there's a good chance that HSPA+ 4G is available instead, which is noticeably faster than 3G on AT&T, which, again, is itself faster than Verizon's CDMA. This is to say, that if I'm not mistaken, if you're with Verizon and you don't have LTE, you're looking at pretty slow data on CDMA. But if you have AT&T there's a good chance you're on HSPA+ instead and still looking at some pretty stout speeds.
Coming from my iphone 4 on AT&T 3G, I find that their 4G HSPA+ is noticeably faster (in real usage, not just tests) than 3G was. And the HSPA+ coverage is nice... in fact, I'm not sure I've been on a 3G network yet anywhere I've been, it's all been at least HSPA+ or LTE, even out in the country. My understanding is that Verizon's LTE rollout is quite a bit more widespread than AT&Ts at this point, but I haven't been on it to say for sure just how far past the cities it really is. If their LTE coverage gets to the areas you frequent, you're good to go already, but if it's not much further out than around big cities, depending on where you spend your time, you could see faster speeds with AT&T by utilizing their 4G HSPA+ in areas where Verizon does not yet have LTE. So that's my long winded version of what I *think* I know, but I'm sure someone will correct me.
Anyway, after having the big ass screen, I don't think I could ever go smaller. Bigger, sure, maybe another half an inch or more, but I would struggle adjusting to something smaller.
Another Verizon to AT&T GNote user here. Had unlimited 4G on a Thunderbolt. Was worth it to switch back to AT&T (which I had before Verizon) since we now have LTE in New York.
I even broke contract with ETF to do it. Still worth it to me.
I just switched from a iPhone 4S on Verizon with unlimited Data to the Note on AT&T
I'm not even looking back NOTE=WIN
I had the Verizon galaxy nexus.....I switxhed to tmobile to get the galaxy s2...withing 14 days I broke contract to at&t....lol....the galaxy nexus is nothing to brag about...tmobile s2 is faster to me..but crappy customer service and signal....so far the coverage on At&t where I live is awesome..and the note rooted...with v6..scripts makes this phone a blazing beast by far the best phone I've owned
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I'm on T-Mobile, but trying to decide between Sprint and Verizon. I really hate Verizon, but all I keep reading online is how horrible Sprint's coverage is. Can you guys let me know how the service is on your new Evo 3Ds? I was planning to make the switch this September, but now I'm not so sure. My T-Mobile coverage is spotty at best and I only get EDGE speeds at work, so it can't be THAT bad. I hope not, at least.
Anyways, your opinions on Verizon and Sprint would greatly help me in trying to decide what to do next. I will NOT be a part of AT&T again and Sprint seems like the best choice. But if they get a flood of new customers, people on other forums are saying it will slow the Sprint network to a crawl (due to Verizon's new tiered data plans) Thanks.
I can assure you that you WILL get better coverage with Sprint. T-Mobile may have faster 3g but Sprints data coverage easily trumps T-mobiles. My sister complained ALL THE TIME in minnesota
Sprint speeds 3g speeds in Southern California are terrible. I put up with 200-300kbps and never really had a problem with it, until I came on here and saw people saying they regularly get 1000kbps
In CT at least.....Sprint coverage is halfway between T-Mobiles & ATT's spotty coverage and Verizon's the best.....For me I keep it for the $ and the good service I get at the local Sprint Store.
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't care as much since my friend's Epic 4G gets some good data speeds at work. I'm just worried about tons of people switching from Verizon and T-Mobile for Sprint and the network getting really bogged down.
Oh yeah and rumors are saying Sprint's getting the next Nexus possibly. Huge plus there and the Evo 3D is pretty bad ass. Checked out the other day and the 3D is pretty legit.
3g in my area has gone to ****. only 3 towers in my city and my verizon phones always get 300-400Kb/s at my house (a known dead zone according to verizon) and - even in a good signal area - the sprint phones are only getting 50-70Kb/s. in a good signal area the verzion phones are getting min 600Kb/s to 1.2Mb/s. even the the bigger city 50 mi away it's the same results.
Sprint 3G is terrible on the 3D...I hate saying it, but it's true. 3G wasn't great with my hero either, however, it wasn't as bad as with the 3D.
That being said, don't get me wrong, I still love the 3D, and hope there will be an update to the radio soon. If not, maybe when 4G hits this part of my area signals will get better.
Sprint data here in baton rouge,la are good.alot better than at&t,tmobile.verizon is good here too.
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My 3G and 4G have gone to hell over the past several months. This at my home right outside Phila., PA.
Over an 11 day period my average speed both 3G & 4G (when it'll connect) combined is 657kbps download, 391kbps upload, ping to test server (Comcast Phila.) 120ms.
My signal strength hovers in the -93dbm to -101dbm. Used to be -82dbm to -88dbm when I had much better data rates. Voice has never been a problem.
This is on an EVO 4g, not 3D.
Here in Montgomery, Alabama I'm getting 1 to 1.5 Mbps download speeds on 3g. There is only one 4G tower here, and luckily its a half mile from my job, but I'm getting 4.5 to 7 Mbps download. I would say coverage is very good, and you can't beat Sprint's prices.
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I'd honestly stay with tmobile....I just switched to sprint from tmobile and really regret it...the 4g speeds are phenomenal...but the 3vo...(or atleast mines) doesn't hold signal....I'm on my 2nd phone and was basically told by sprint reps that the only option I have is to cancel since I'm still in my 30 day return period. Wtf !?!
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Coverage AREA is great, but speeds are pathetic in many areas across the US. Sprint is way behind in tower backhaul or something in these areas.
Well where I live when I was on TMO I only got 1 - 2 bars and edge. Now that I switched to sprint I get 5 - 6 bars with 3G. TMO 3G is way faster, but sprints 3G is stil fast enough for what I need. Hope this helps. Also noticed that TMO allows you full speed DL up to 200 mb, but afterwards past the 200 mb they throttle you. Atleast Sprint doesnt throttle. Just saying.
sprint 3g here sucks, and im finding my phone roaming on verizon more and more. a year ago id rarely ever roam, but now its becoming a daily occurance that i hear that roaming notification tone a few times.
I absolutely love this phone but the 3g speeds are kind if making me want to switch to tmobile and just use the sensation.
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As long as nobody else in on the tower your sitting right next to Sprint is fast. I notice a big difference at work when I'm there early or real late versus in the middle of the day. And don't expect the 4G to be that great on the 3vo. I too have connection issues when I'm outside in an area where my OG Evo got great reception. The 3vo seriously needs some radio updates.
A buddy of mine at work has T-mobile. His data blows mine out of the water. I'm talking 3 megs versus 56k. And that's no joke.
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I'm on T-Mobile, but trying to decide between Sprint and Verizon. I really hate Verizon, but all I keep reading online is how horrible Sprint's coverage is. Can you guys let me know how the service is on your new Evo 3Ds? I was planning to make the switch this September, but now I'm not so sure. My T-Mobile coverage is spotty at best and I only get EDGE speeds at work, so it can't be THAT bad. I hope not, at least.
Anyways, your opinions on Verizon and Sprint would greatly help me in trying to decide what to do next. I will NOT be a part of AT&T again and Sprint seems like the best choice. But if they get a flood of new customers, people on other forums are saying it will slow the Sprint network to a crawl (due to Verizon's new tiered data plans) Thanks.
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Florida, 3g before root and tweak . 0.40-1.9 mbs, thats not bad, cause i thether over 400 mbs download through usb, that's pretty awsome,, the tyrant att will give me a thousand dollar bill by now so i left them... Though the network is not as it used to be on Sprint its still pretty good. the 4g coverage is not perfected yet but It still beat anybody else. Think about it you get thunderbolt and thether you'll be cut short/T-mobile with the new ATT, so run away from all the tyrants and unlimite yourself with sprint...
I switched from TMO and as far as data speeds go, i really regret it. I went from 3-6mbps average to a whopping 150-300kbps.... Love this phone but it needs a radio update ASAP and Sprint has to get off their lazy butts and upgrade their network to handle all the users they are reeling in with their EVO's
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My og EVO was getting very similar 3g speed tests as my friends thunderbolt. Now I have occasionally noticed that my 3vo is loading a little bit slower but I'm still getting 1.6 mb/s on 3g often. I'm in the Orem area of Utah.
Meh around Philly
I live about 10 miles NW of Philadelphia and get about 500 in each direction on 3G. This is with the Evo 3D. I really wish Sprint would get it together and up the 4G coverage in my area because I live on the fringe so the switch from 3G to 4G kills me. WHEN i am connected to 4G I get about 2.5mb down and 1.5 up. My wife gets the same speeds on her 3G iPhone(verizon)....
Really want the giant screen of this phone, even though I really like my Epic Touch 4G; Obviously Sprint data speeds suck right now, but, not sure ATT would be that much better here in the SW 'burbs of Chicago..
Anyone out there that switched from the ET4G for this bad boy?
Are you glad you did, or not so glad?
Thanks so much for your input!
I came from a long line of devices on Sprint, my last being the E4GT. I'm extremely happy with the Note, no regrets in leaving Sprint at all.
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i'm hoping someone from the Chicago land area will chime in and tell me how ATT service is here now' a few years ago I tried ATT, and I couldn't even make or receive phone calls in my house in Willowbrook..
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i'm hoping someone from the Chicago land area will chime in and tell me how ATT service is here now' a few years ago I tried ATT, and I couldn't even make or receive phone calls in my house in Willowbrook..
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In not far from u (la grange) and att has improved ALOT in last few years. Still get dropped calls here and there but not like in the past. LTE is just wow and that's even with us in Chi town land not getting nowhere near the speeds other markets are. (10 mbs here and Dallas is at 40mbs) .
I've had VZW LTE on my galaxy tab and left them, was never on sprint but remember Nextel
As for the Note I don't think u will put it down much, battery is mehhh but given how much I use it I'm not complaining and there's always a charger near me. My mother lives in wiilowbrook and I have not had any issues in that area, Indian head park is weak in my experience.
Hope this helps.
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In not far from u (la grange) and att has improved ALOT in last few years. Still get dropped calls here and there but not like in the past. LTE is just wow and that's even with us in Chi town land not getting nowhere near the speeds other markets are. (10 mbs here and Dallas is at 40mbs) .
I've had VZW LTE on my galaxy tab and left them, was never on sprint but remember Nextel
As for the Note I don't think u will put it down much, battery is mehhh but given how much I use it I'm not complaining and there's always a charger near me. My mother lives in wiilowbrook and I have not had any issues in that area, Indian head park is weak in my experience.
Hope this helps.
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How does the 4glte work inside your house?
Even though I am really close to Sprint wimax towers, i really get no 4g signal inside my house...
Do you drop calls inside your house, or out on the road?
I work from a home office, and using the phone part of the "package" is very important to me...
Thanks again!
I live in Burr Ridge. Last month I sold my Epic Touch 4g on Sprint for the Note.
Back in the day I'd had the iPhone 3g on AT&T and the service sucked, and I'd swore I'd never come back to AT&T, but I really wanted the Note. I've had no problems on the Note on AT&T...no dropped calls yet, and love the 4g speeds. The 3g speeds I get on AT&T are faster than any of the 4g Wimax speeds I used to get on Sprint.
Fyi here is a speediest from my house and I'm not on lte (it always says 4g in the statusbar, when you're in LTE you'll see a little "lte" in there as well)
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Came from sprint, California. It's more expensive but the service is awesome. Unlimited data was a cruel joke unless I was in 4g area, staying still with a door or window open
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I live in Burr Ridge. Last month I sold my Epic Touch 4g on Sprint for the Note.
Back in the day I'd had the iPhone 3g on AT&T and the service sucked, and I'd swore I'd never come back to AT&T, but I really wanted the Note. I've had no problems on the Note on AT&T...no dropped calls yet, and love the 4g speeds. The 3g speeds I get on AT&T are faster than any of the 4g Wimax speeds I used to get on Sprint.
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thats great to hear!
when I used to have ATT a few years ago, I dropped calls ALWAYS in certain areas; rt 83 and 63rd street, 55 and 355 overpass, it was pretty pathetic to tell people on a call that you had to hang up, because you were going to lose the call..Plus, when I lived in Darien, I had to go out side to make or receive calls, and that was just stupid, especially in the winter!!
Glad to hear they have upgraded the network in the SW burbs...being an older guy, I actually use the phone for phone calls first and foremost..
and, as far as pricing, it appears that with 3 lines and the family plan, I will be paying about 30 dollars a month LESS with ATt than with sprint..hard to believe, but I confirmed the pricing yesterday...Sprints 10 dollar "premium" to own a smartphone now is just bull****..
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I live in Burr Ridge. Last month I sold my Epic Touch 4g on Sprint for the Note.
Back in the day I'd had the iPhone 3g on AT&T and the service sucked, and I'd swore I'd never come back to AT&T, but I really wanted the Note. I've had no problems on the Note on AT&T...no dropped calls yet, and love the 4g speeds. The 3g speeds I get on AT&T are faster than any of the 4g Wimax speeds I used to get on Sprint.
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I assume its just as easy to root this guy as it was the ET4g?
I checked the Dev section, and it doesn't seem there are as many custom Roms for this guy yet; it is a lot newer, but I wonder if things like CM9 will ever make their way to this phone...
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Really want the giant screen of this phone, even though I really like my Epic Touch 4G; Obviously Sprint data speeds suck right now, but, not sure ATT would be that much better here in the SW 'burbs of Chicago..
Anyone out there that switched from the ET4G for this bad boy?
Are you glad you did, or not so glad?
Thanks so much for your input!
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If you like your epic touch 4G...then you'll Love the Note. No doubt.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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/Thats what she said...
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I assume its just as easy to root this guy as it was the ET4g?
I checked the Dev section, and it doesn't seem there are as many custom Roms for this guy yet; it is a lot newer, but I wonder if things like CM9 will ever make their way to this phone...
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Yeah, rooting was just as easy. Also, there aren't may custom Roms, but Quality > Quantity.
DAGr8's Saurom rom is the only ROM I've flashed so far (gingerbread ROM) and I've had no complaints. There also has already been an ICS leak and various ROM's that I haven't tried yet and we know a real release will be coming.
Also, Cm9 is supposedly coming:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568698
I have a split level house so I'm more in the lower level and I do have spots where I get weak call signal but still able to make receive calls. I too work out of my house (transfer office to cell when I leave) so I rely on my cell for work mainly. LTE reception is very good for me at home but I do use my wifi mainly when home. I have been with att since it was Ameritech and have had every iPhone since the first one but can safely say iPhones cell reception is crap compared to the note. My wife and daughter have iPhones and they still drop calls way way more then me. I never had the phone ur coming from so I can't attest to compare as I have been a sammy guy since the galaxy s and cannot see myself going to another brand.
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For anyone wondering. .yea this device is 3 times the speed of sprint ..I came from sprint after 3 years of bottom of the barrel 3g so called..3g I signed up with atat and Right of the bat atat was twice as fast good signal and YES CAN FINALLY STREAM MEDIA WITHOUT LAG.It may not be lte but hspa is suitable
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/Thats what she said...
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After she met me....
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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For anyone wondering. .yea this device is 3 times the speed of sprint ..I came from sprint after 3 years of bottom of the barrel 3g so called..3g I signed up with atat and Right of the bat atat was twice as fast good signal and YES CAN FINALLY STREAM MEDIA WITHOUT LAG.It may not be lte but hspa is suitable
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I'm just hoping the service in my area of Chicago land has improved over what it was 3 years ago, when ATT was the absolute worst in my area..
I never drop calls with sprint when I am out of my house, and inside of it, I have been using an Air Rave device that they provided, so that isn't an issue at home.
Their 3G data is horrible, and, they claim its because they are currently upgrading their network; I gotta tell ya, it was just as bad when they weren't upgrading their network. Typical 3g speeds are 100-400kb, so the thought of getting 5-10 megs from ATT is very exciting...
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I'm just hoping the service in my area of Chicago land has improved over what it was 3 years ago, when ATT was the absolute worst in my area..
I never drop calls with sprint when I am out of my house, and inside of it, I have been using an Air Rave device that they provided, so that isn't an issue at home.
Their 3G data is horrible, and, they claim its because they are currently upgrading their network; I gotta tell ya, it was just as bad when they weren't upgrading their network. Typical 3g speeds are 100-400kb, so the thought of getting 5-10 megs from ATT is very exciting...
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If I were you, I would test the Note in and around your house for a few days to make sure the reception works well overall.
At times, the data jumps back-and-forth between HSPA and LTE depending on your whereabouts. But...I don't believe it really drains that much battery.
And I agree how Sprint's 3G is an absolute joke....I thought VZW 3G was horrid...but when I saw it on Sprint, it was unbelievably slow.
They continue to advertise that they're the only 1 of the big 4 providers who still offer "truly unlimited data"....but what's the point of having that if you're basically already throttled with dial-up speeds.
Only thing i hate about note is qualcom processor, thats only aspect I miss of s2
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If I were you, I would test the Note in and around your house for a few days to make sure the reception works well overall.
At times, the data jumps back-and-forth between HSPA and LTE depending on your whereabouts. But...I don't believe it really drains that much battery.
And I agree how Sprint's 3G is an absolute joke....I thought VZW 3G was horrid...but when I saw it on Sprint, it was unbelievably slow.
They continue to advertise that they're the only 1 of the big 4 providers who still offer "truly unlimited data"....but what's the point of having that if you're basically already throttled with dial-up speeds.
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yeah, I plan on testing it immediately, but, the problem is of course, that once I port the number over, of their service sucks, its a pain to cancel with them and go back to Sprint; I love the Sammy E4GT, but, I am really switching carriers to get the Note, not Att...I just hope all the improvements in my area that I have heard/read about our true.
I mean, this is the Chicago land market, and I am certain ATT wants to come off as a good provider here..
But I really wanted this phone first and foremost..
Hello everyone! I am considering to switch from Sprint to Verizon because of the crappy 3G speeds. However, a few things are holding me back: 1) Verizon is expensive. 2) No unlimited data on Verizon.
What do you guys think, should I stay with Sprint?
How is the Evo 4G LTE treating you guys?
How is the signal on the Evo 4G LTE? Is it better than the 3D?
Does anyone know the any other major differences between the Maxx and Evo 4G LTE beside the processor and screen?
Is it louder than the Maxx?
Is SLCD2 better than SAMOLED?
How do the colors look compared to SAMOLED?
Does the GPS locks fast?
How is the battery?
Thanks in advance!
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Hello everyone! I am considering to switch from Sprint to Verizon because of the crappy 3G speeds. However, a few things are holding me back: 1) Verizon is expensive. 2) No unlimited data on Verizon.
What do you guys think, should I stay with Sprint?
How is the Evo 4G LTE treating you guys?
How is the signal on the Evo 4G LTE? Is it better than the 3D?
Does anyone know the any other major differences between the Maxx and Evo 4G LTE beside the processor and screen?
Is it louder than the Maxx?
Is SLCD2 better than SAMOLED?
How do the colors look compared to SAMOLED?
Does the GPS locks fast?
Thanks in advance!
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so many questions
just go to verizon and find out for yourself ^_^
You have a few things to consider. As far as the network speed, there is no comparison. I have a personal Sprint account with three Wimax 4G phones and my employer just gave me a Verizon phone because they too were on Sprint but unsatisfied with the network. I'm trial testing a Bionic. The speed comparison is well...no comparison. Verizon's LTE is crazy fast. Nearly as fast as my home 25/25 FIOS wifi connection. Made me pause thinking about upgrading to a new contract on Sprint seeing that they will not have LTE in my area for a while; my area is not on their upgrade map yet which extends to the end of the year. However, their (Verizon) phone selection sucks. Not too impressed with the Razr and beyond that all they have from HTC is the Resound which is a full cycle behind the One X series, the Nexus which will be behind the Galaxy 3 when released. And of course no unlimited data on Verizon and it costs more. So no clear cut answer for you but what ever fits your particular needs, economy and phone tech. For me well I don't know yet but I hate their (Verizon's) phone selection.
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You have a few things to consider. As far as the network speed, there is no comparison. I have a personal Sprint account with three Wimax 4G phones and my employer just gave me a Verizon phone because they too were on Sprint but unsatisfied with the network. I'm trial testing a Bionic. The speed comparison is well...no comparison. Verizon's LTE is crazy fast. Nearly as fast as my home 25/25 FIOS wifi connection. Made me pause thinking about upgrading to a new contract on Sprint seeing that they will not have LTE in my area for a while; my area is not on their upgrade map yet which extends to the end of the year. However, their (Verizon) phone selection sucks. Not too impressed with the Razr and beyond that all they have from HTC is the Resound which is a full cycle behind the One X series, the Nexus which will be behind the Galaxy 3 when released. And of course no unlimited data on Verizon and it costs more. So no clear cut answer for you but what ever fits your particular needs, economy and phone tech. For me well I don't know yet but I hate their (Verizon's) phone selection.
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Yep going through the same thing and that is the same answer I came out with..... Verizon phone selection is garbage right now. The RAZR maxx is their best phone and then the galaxy nexus. Also from what it seems, Sprints lte Network isn't as fast as Verizon.
I am currently on Sprint with the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I love it. However this has more to do with Verizon and rooting then it does the phone itself. I haven't had any problems with Sprint turning my phone off or anything for being rooted, and seeing how this phone has a lot of development for it I would have to assume that it is good to root.
Now the verizon question. How is the network? Is it leaps and bounds above Sprints? Voice/Data (3G/LTE) coverage?
I'm actually s sprint employee and switched to Verizon today and the network is leaps and bounds ahead of the sprint network and the droid DNA is amazing to say the least
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I am currently on Sprint with the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I love it. However this has more to do with Verizon and rooting then it does the phone itself. I haven't had any problems with Sprint turning my phone off or anything for being rooted, and seeing how this phone has a lot of development for it I would have to assume that it is good to root.
Now the verizon question. How is the network? Is it leaps and bounds above Sprints? Voice/Data (3G/LTE) coverage?
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Network, really depends where you live...I live in Utah and network is great, much better than Sprint here. If you do switch, as for now don't let it install the ota. It will block you from unlocking the bootloader. At least until the devs find a work around The phone is worth the switch by itself.
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Network, really depends where you live...I live in Utah and network is great, much better than Sprint here. If you do switch, as for now don't let it install the ota. It will block you from unlocking the bootloader. At least until the devs find a work around The phone is worth the switch by itself.
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For real though...I had Sprints 4G Map up in one tab and Verizons in another...Sprints 4G map looked like a cold and the Verizon map looks like a Disease. Meaning the actual coverage was night and day. I live in Ohio and basically all of ohio is covered in Red (LTE). I would be switching for the network not this phone. Reason is the new M7 for Sprint is this phone with expandable memory and 13 MP camera. I still can't get past the non-removable battery part.
And about the OTA comment. HA I don't flash or update ANY OTA. First thing I do when I get ANY phone is come straight here and tweak my stuff.
Does Verizon do checks though for rooted devices? Is their customer service crappy like I hear? Do they find extra fees and stuff to charge you? Do you ever get dropped calls or choppy calls? I swear Sprints network is a retarded step child. I could have Full bars and have a choppy call. Or be in the middle of an interstate highway and have 1 bar of service. Let alone have Full bars and no bandwidth. Now I am not stupid. I know what is happening.....Sprint sells 4G phones in a state that doesn't have 4G (not that much at least), so their lets say 25,000 customers in a city are all on 2G/3G taking up all the bandwidth, while on Verizon their 25,000 customers are split up on 3G/4G. Our family has been with Sprint for 12 years...So I have to convince the Family to switch (as we are on a 4 people plan).
Oh, dude who left sprint for verizon. Do you know if Verizon does any sort of welcome to Verizon and leaving our competitors kind of deals? Buy one get one free/free activation for devices...etc?
I switched from Sprint to Verizon about a month ago and I only wish I did it sooner. Sprints network was ok a few years ago but unless you are in one of their lte areas, I found trying to use the phone for anything but calls or sms to be useless and frustrating.
I'm paying more on Verizon but for me it is worth it to have a smartphone I can actually use.
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For real though...I had Sprints 4G Map up in one tab and Verizons in another...Sprints 4G map looked like a cold and the Verizon map looks like a Disease. Meaning the actual coverage was night and day. I live in Ohio and basically all of ohio is covered in Red (LTE). I would be switching for the network not this phone. Reason is the new M7 for Sprint is this phone with expandable memory and 13 MP camera. I still can't get past the non-removable battery part.
And about the OTA comment. HA I don't flash or update ANY OTA. First thing I do when I get ANY phone is come straight here and tweak my stuff.
Does Verizon do checks though for rooted devices? Is their customer service crappy like I hear? Do they find extra fees and stuff to charge you? Do you ever get dropped calls or choppy calls? I swear Sprints network is a retarded step child. I could have Full bars and have a choppy call. Or be in the middle of an interstate highway and have 1 bar of service. Let alone have Full bars and no bandwidth. Now I am not stupid. I know what is happening.....Sprint sells 4G phones in a state that doesn't have 4G (not that much at least), so their lets say 25,000 customers in a city are all on 2G/3G taking up all the bandwidth, while on Verizon their 25,000 customers are split up on 3G/4G. Our family has been with Sprint for 12 years...So I have to convince the Family to switch (as we are on a 4 people plan).
Oh, dude who left sprint for verizon. Do you know if Verizon does any sort of welcome to Verizon and leaving our competitors kind of deals? Buy one get one free/free activation for devices...etc?
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The M7 doesn't have a 13 MP camera...Its based off Ultrapixels.
Verizon has great coverage compared to Sprint. It does depend on where you live so you might want to ask people you live around to see if Verizon gets good coverage where you work and live.
Also, if you buy your DNA from Amazon Wireless, its on sale for $50 for new contracts. Verizon also does a student discount if you are a college student or something. Verizon does charge a lot for its services compared to other places in the world, but it has one of the best networks(if not the best) in United States.
I didn't know that about the M7. However, I did read what ultra pixels are. Long story short the M7 will have 3 4.3MP sensors that collectively make a final result image that is supposed to have better color and image reproduction. Sounds interesting none-the-less.
Article: http://www.technocrates.org/what-are-ultrapixels/
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I switched from Sprint to Verizon about a month ago and I only wish I did it sooner. Sprints network was ok a few years ago but unless you are in one of their lte areas, I found trying to use the phone for anything but calls or sms to be useless and frustrating.
I'm paying more on Verizon but for me it is worth it to have a smartphone I can actually use.
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This is the same exact argument I am trying to use with my dad. We are paying 205 (including taxs and fees) on sprint for a 2G (15+ yr old) and 3G (8+ yr old) technology and network. It would only make sense to pay the 230 + Tax and Fees
I came from Sprint because of the beastly specs of the DNA. However I've been plagued with the sim card error, puk locked, and constant dropped data and cellular signals. I've gotten new sims and new phones, still the issue persists. So with all that going on, I'm not sure which is better between Sprint and Verizon. I kinda miss Sprint.
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I came from Sprint because of the beastly specs of the DNA. However I've been plagued with the sim card error, puk locked, and constant dropped data and cellular signals. I've gotten new sims and new phones, still the issue persists. So with all that going on, I'm not sure which is better between Sprint and Verizon. I kinda miss Sprint.
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Sounds like you have some horrible luck. The only issue I've had is the SIM card error, once, a month or 2 ago.
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Bigandrewgold said:
Sounds like you have some horrible luck. The only issue I've had is the SIM card error, once, a month or 2 ago.
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Ha tell me about it, I'm trying to remain optimistic that a fix will come about.
Sprint data doesn't compare.
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I like Verizon, the coverage is great but sometimes I wonder if the grass is greener. I like to try all the different phones out there and T-Mobile and AT&T have the most open networks for switching out phones. I think T-Mobile is not going to work because the coverage is just not there. I used to be an At&T customer and only left really for Android (Original Droid). Now that Android is spread to al the carriers I wonder if I might like AT&T better just because I can switch out phones so much easier. Anyone have any input, maybe someone that has switched from Verizon to AT&T?
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I like Verizon, the coverage is great but sometimes I wonder if the grass is greener. I like to try all the different phones out there and T-Mobile and AT&T have the most open networks for switching out phones. I think T-Mobile is not going to work because the coverage is just not there. I used to be an At&T customer and only left really for Android (Original Droid). Now that Android is spread to al the carriers I wonder if I might like AT&T better just because I can switch out phones so much easier. Anyone have any input, maybe someone that has switched from Verizon to AT&T?
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I'd love to provide some input as a user who has been a Verizon customer for a few years and is switching to AT&T. I previously used the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and then switched to the iPhone 5 last year. I am still on an unlimited data plan. However, I have grown increasingly frustrated at Verizon because of their lack of phone variety, slow updates, locked bootloaders, Verizon customizations (persistent WIFI notifications, for example), etc.
So I bought an HTC One on AT&T the other day and am currently evaluating it. Right now I still have my Verizon iPhone 5 with unlimited data. But I also have the HTC One with the 5GB data plan (I have a 25% business discount).
SO is the grass greener? Yes and No. Here are some of my thoughts:
- Verizon has better overall coverage, but AT&T is faster. In my area, LTE on AT&T just went live, and while speeds are comparable, AT&T has better penetration already into the buildings I've been in. In my workplace, for example, I can get 4G LTE on AT&T but only 3G on Verizon unless I am close to the windows. It's nice having HSPA+ as a drop down from LTE as opposed to Verizon's very slow 3G network IMO. Can't deny Verizon's coverage is second to none, but AT&T is good in my area so this is probably the primary consideration (how is AT&T in your main area you'll be in???)
- It would be very hard to give up my Unlimited Data plan on Verizon. It's nice not having to worry about data caps. However, in actual use, I rarely go over 3-4GB per month and only occasionally reach 5GB. I don't think 3GB would be enough as I'd be constantly worrying about going over, plus I'd have to workaround tethering. For now, I'm keeping my Verizon line until I am absolutely sure.
- Phones! GMS > CDMA if only for the flexibility the former has for phones. The floodgates are open on AT&T and T-Mobile, but Verizon takes longer to get phones, has less variety, and has complete control over them. I hate everything about what Verizon is doing, and it's clear they don't have geeks in mind that like to tinker and switch phones often. I change phones every 9-12 months usually, and AT&T is going to provide a better environment than Verizon for that. Not perfect, mind you. They still lock bootloaders, and have some draconian policies and practices, but by the nature of their GMS network, there is more flexibility.
- HTC One. I bought the One on AT&T before it was officially confirmed that Verizon would be getting it. So there is a part of me that thinks I should just return the AT&T version and wait for the Verizon version. However, I am not at all confident that Verizon won't screw it up or prevent HTC from allowing us to unlock the bootloader. And like I said, I'm just really tired of Verizon and their meddling. I may just end up keep both plans for a while, but right now I'm leaning towards keeping the AT&T version despite my unlimited data plan on Verizon.
Hope that helps.
Yes that was a great help. I am really torn because Verizon's coverage is so great. I know that ATT LTE went live here a little bit ago and I think the coverage is pretty good. Ironically I left ATT for the Droid on Verizon because of the lack of variety on ATT at the time. Thanks for your input.
honestly i would move to verizon right now if i could, in my area better coverage + better speeds
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Yes that was a great help. I am really torn because Verizon's coverage is so great. I know that ATT LTE went live here a little bit ago and I think the coverage is pretty good. Ironically I left ATT for the Droid on Verizon because of the lack of variety on ATT at the time. Thanks for your input.
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No problem. I know what you mean, I had AT&T a long time ago too and moved to Verizon when they changed their unlimited data policy. So it's ironic that I am now switching back. AT&T has done a good job of courting Android phone makers, and Verizon seems to be in the honeymoon phase of having the iPhone now. It's weird how things have flip-flopped! AT&T also has a few more consumer-friendly policies such as not forcing customers into a Share Everything data plan if you aren't already grandfathered in. They have rollover minutes (which I know isn't a big deal these day with people using voice less). And they have Mobile to ANY Mobile rather than just Mobile to Mobile, which is a small advantage I know.
But yeah, the primary consideration is how each carrier performs in your area. If both are good (like in my area), you have more options.
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honestly i would move to verizon right now if i could, in my area better coverage + better speeds
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Yes, if one carrier has better coverage and speeds in your area, then it makes sense to use that carrier. In my area, Verizon's LTE has been around for almost two years now and I rarely get more than 10 Mbps downloads. Usually it hovers around 5-9 Mbps, which is not even much better than AT&T's HSPA+, let alone LTE. And when my phones on Verizon drop down to 3G, it feels like dialup speeds. So far, AT&T is noticeable better for speeds between my HTC One and iPhone 5.
But again, YMMV and this is just a subjective observation on my part. To the OP, you could always give AT&T a shot for 14 days and compare the networks. If it doesn't work out, you can cancel and just pay the restocking fee. Just use the new phone with a new number, so you don't have to port and cancel your old line yet.
It all depends on your location really. I live near philly and the service has actually been a bit better on att then verizon from when i had them a few years ago. The speeds are also better on att thanks to it not being cdma but rather hspa. Overall I would never go back to verizon due to their prices and slower speeds unless I moved somewhere where they had clearly better service than all other companies.
So what about dropped calls. I barely have any on Verizon, but I remember having them on AT&T. Does being on LTE fix that or is it still a problem?
I went from Verizon (been a customer for 10 years) to At&t recently because my wife's office only gets At&t reception and we wanted to be on a Mobile Share plan instead of having two separate accounts (saves us around 40 a month). I've had an At&t line over the years for work, so I know the coverage isn't NEARLY as good as Verizon, especially LTE coverage in my area (At&t just went live on a few towers in my neck of the woods), but the savings is worth the sacrifice at this time.
Plus, as you said, being able to use most GSM phones on the network is a HUGE plus. Being able to run the Google Edition on my HTC One will be fantastic and I don't think Verizon is going to make it easy to run that software. Plus, as another guy mentioned above, that persistent Wifi thing Verizon does is sooooooo annoying. Almost as bad as At&t putting their name in the notification bar of the GS3/GS4. At least it goes away after a few seconds on the HTC One.
I haven't had many dropped calls on At&t, but calls are not what I do the most of, so I'm a bad barometer for that. I know the wife drops a bunch but I just attributed it to being the Nexus 4 and not a tried and true, tested, At&t phone. She has a GS4 now, so we'll see if that improves.
Anyway, in short, I did it for strictly monetary reasons, but the plus sides of At&t are numerous so it's not as bad as thought it would be.
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I went from Verizon (been a customer for 10 years) to At&t recently because my wife's office only gets At&t reception and we wanted to be on a Mobile Share plan instead of having two separate accounts (saves us around 40 a month). I've had an At&t line over the years for work, so I know the coverage isn't NEARLY as good as Verizon, especially LTE coverage in my area (At&t just went live on a few towers in my neck of the woods), but the savings is worth the sacrifice at this time.
Plus, as you said, being able to use most GSM phones on the network is a HUGE plus. Being able to run the Google Edition on my HTC One will be fantastic and I don't think Verizon is going to make it easy to run that software. Plus, as another guy mentioned above, that persistent Wifi thing Verizon does is sooooooo annoying. Almost as bad as At&t putting their name in the notification bar of the GS3/GS4. At least it goes away after a few seconds on the HTC One.
I haven't had many dropped calls on At&t, but calls are not what I do the most of, so I'm a bad barometer for that. I know the wife drops a bunch but I just attributed it to being the Nexus 4 and not a tried and true, tested, At&t phone. She has a GS4 now, so we'll see if that improves.
Anyway, in short, I did it for strictly monetary reasons, but the plus sides of At&t are numerous so it's not as bad as thought it would be.
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Thats what I am afraid of. My wife values the voice and I value the data. So dropped calls don't bother me as much, but it would really bother my wife. Especially coming from Verizon with very few dropped calls.
I dropped Verizon last year for AT&T and, despite the few rough patches everyone else has mentioned, it was worth it. No one can beat Verizon's LTE network coverage at this point, but I was so fed up with their other BS on updates and pretty scanty selection of phones that I did what you did and suspended my service for a month to see what happened. At first they weren't perfect, but I was fine with them and loved that I could go from a US SGS3 to an international One X without a hitch. Also, AT&T's coverage (both 3G and LTE) has expanded greatly in quality and quantity over the last 6 months where I'm at for work and everyday life. So now I've finally convinced my wife to drop them also and thus ending our 12 year run with Verizon and their devolution into Apple-like "It's our way or you don't need it" business model.
Will I ever go back? Not until I can buy a new phone from anywhere I want and activate it on their network. And I believe it'll be a cold day in heck before that is ever allowed to happen!