Hello everyone! I am considering to switch from Sprint to Verizon because of the crappy 3G speeds. However, a few things are holding me back: 1) Verizon is expensive. 2) No unlimited data on Verizon.
What do you guys think, should I stay with Sprint?
How is the Evo 4G LTE treating you guys?
How is the signal on the Evo 4G LTE? Is it better than the 3D?
Does anyone know the any other major differences between the Maxx and Evo 4G LTE beside the processor and screen?
Is it louder than the Maxx?
Is SLCD2 better than SAMOLED?
How do the colors look compared to SAMOLED?
Does the GPS locks fast?
How is the battery?
Thanks in advance!
migpol08 said:
Hello everyone! I am considering to switch from Sprint to Verizon because of the crappy 3G speeds. However, a few things are holding me back: 1) Verizon is expensive. 2) No unlimited data on Verizon.
What do you guys think, should I stay with Sprint?
How is the Evo 4G LTE treating you guys?
How is the signal on the Evo 4G LTE? Is it better than the 3D?
Does anyone know the any other major differences between the Maxx and Evo 4G LTE beside the processor and screen?
Is it louder than the Maxx?
Is SLCD2 better than SAMOLED?
How do the colors look compared to SAMOLED?
Does the GPS locks fast?
Thanks in advance!
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so many questions
just go to verizon and find out for yourself ^_^
You have a few things to consider. As far as the network speed, there is no comparison. I have a personal Sprint account with three Wimax 4G phones and my employer just gave me a Verizon phone because they too were on Sprint but unsatisfied with the network. I'm trial testing a Bionic. The speed comparison is well...no comparison. Verizon's LTE is crazy fast. Nearly as fast as my home 25/25 FIOS wifi connection. Made me pause thinking about upgrading to a new contract on Sprint seeing that they will not have LTE in my area for a while; my area is not on their upgrade map yet which extends to the end of the year. However, their (Verizon) phone selection sucks. Not too impressed with the Razr and beyond that all they have from HTC is the Resound which is a full cycle behind the One X series, the Nexus which will be behind the Galaxy 3 when released. And of course no unlimited data on Verizon and it costs more. So no clear cut answer for you but what ever fits your particular needs, economy and phone tech. For me well I don't know yet but I hate their (Verizon's) phone selection.
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You have a few things to consider. As far as the network speed, there is no comparison. I have a personal Sprint account with three Wimax 4G phones and my employer just gave me a Verizon phone because they too were on Sprint but unsatisfied with the network. I'm trial testing a Bionic. The speed comparison is well...no comparison. Verizon's LTE is crazy fast. Nearly as fast as my home 25/25 FIOS wifi connection. Made me pause thinking about upgrading to a new contract on Sprint seeing that they will not have LTE in my area for a while; my area is not on their upgrade map yet which extends to the end of the year. However, their (Verizon) phone selection sucks. Not too impressed with the Razr and beyond that all they have from HTC is the Resound which is a full cycle behind the One X series, the Nexus which will be behind the Galaxy 3 when released. And of course no unlimited data on Verizon and it costs more. So no clear cut answer for you but what ever fits your particular needs, economy and phone tech. For me well I don't know yet but I hate their (Verizon's) phone selection.
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Yep going through the same thing and that is the same answer I came out with..... Verizon phone selection is garbage right now. The RAZR maxx is their best phone and then the galaxy nexus. Also from what it seems, Sprints lte Network isn't as fast as Verizon.
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Is the battery life good?
How is the 3g? Does it go in and out or stay connected
Don't do it. Unless you REAAAAAAAALLY want an Atrix for some reason.
OK so I'm guessing its bad?
I'm on da fence with this and the nexus s
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who are you switching from? does it have to be at&t ? My atrix battery isnt bad, but i despise at&t
I sometimes go from H+ --> E --> no signal at odd times here in Raleigh, NC...
It depends on your location !!! some area's are good for AT$T and some are really BAD !
I'd pick up a Galaxy S II personally, I am fairly sure it's coming to T-mobile, Verizon, and AT&T so if you have T-mo or Verizon I'd recommend that.
It really out classes the Atrix from top to bottom, the only thing it lacks are docks (worthless anyway), qHD (But the sAMOLED screen more than makes up for it) and Tegra 2..although Tegra 2 is actually quite limited compared to the Galaxy II's chipset.
Why so many AT&T haters? I've been with them since it was Cingular years ago and I don't see any issues that people don't have with other providers. I think we are all looking for perfect world scenarios and we just aren't quite there yet. As for the Atrix, love mine!
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I was with t-mobile till February 2011 and was sick of them because of the ****ty reception in San Diego in the area I live in. It was supposed to be "4G" but I was constantly on EDGE. I had friends on AT&T and they had great reception and on 3G faster or similar speeds as me on T-mobile with "4G". I switched and I am happy so far.
Try to find out if you have good reception in the area that you need it in (ask friends on AT&T etc.). T-mobile and AT&T can be quite spotty in coverage and reception.
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Why so many AT&T haters? I've been with them since it was Cingular years ago and I don't see any issues that people don't have with other providers. I think we are all looking for perfect world scenarios and we just aren't quite there yet. As for the Atrix, love mine!
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Verizon = Faster network (Only carrier with substantial LTE rollout already), larger coverage map, and unlimited data plans.
AT&T = Slower network, no LTE for at least another year, 2 years for smaller markets, capped data plans.
The choice is simple.
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Is the battery life good?
How is the 3g? Does it go in and out or stay connected
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The battery life is amazing. But as always, it will also depend on your personal usage of the phone. If you are running speedtests all day then the battery life will be crap, for example.
the 3G will entirely depend on AT&T's network in your area. Look it up online and you should have a better gauge on how their network works in your area. Entirely subjective. In my area, it is amazing and I have no complains. It has been stable for me and the few times it "goes out" is when I am in the mountains or somewhere with weak cell signal anyways.
I just switched from Verizon to ATT about 3 weeks ago. The only thing that I miss is the amazing data speeds on my thunderbolt. I have had no issues with ATT and the service is not that much different in my area. If they are alright in your area I don't see a reason not to go for it.
The Atrix is a great phone, compared to my thunderbolt there is no comparison. The battery on the atrix lasts around 4 times longer then the thunderbolt and is built a lot better. Its a lot faster as well.
I have Verizon now but it cost 178 for two phones and if I switch to at&t it will be 131.98 or T-Mobile it would be 139
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I'm sold on the Evo 3D but I don't know whether to move over from T-Mobile and go with it now (freedom from contracts), or to wait for the GSM version whenever it comes out?
Pricing aside (I know there are porting credits for new customers and other subsidies) I'd like to get some thoughts from people who use Sprint service with the device.
I'm not looking to start a flame war or anything, I just want to know what made you decide to go for it and whether a GSM version would have been more convincing?
If price has anything to do with you decision,I think Sprint is cheaper.
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I would go with sprint! they have great customer service, unlimited data, pretty good coverage, and you dont know when the evo 3d will work on t-mobile either. i would say sprint would be a good choice!
its really all relative to where you need it to work at. If your in a good tmobile area its great. hspa+ is crazy fast.
I just switched back to sprint (3 days ago) because of cost and too many dead zones with tmobile. I work at Chase so we get a hefty discount. But tmobile worked ok for me as long as I was in the inner city.
Now, I WILL say this. GSM hs(d)pa throughput hammers sprints 3G. Its always on, data speeds are crazy fast. The phone handles any network changes on the fly. Sprints 3G has been pretty bad lately. I averaged with poor service on tmobile (keep in mind I am in a hs(d)pa market), at least 2 megs down and with good service upwards of 7-8mbps. With sprint 3G im lucky if i get 500kbps.
Now to match apples with apples, Sprints 4G can be fast as hell too. with a good signal, i can get 8-11mbps. The problem is the building penetration of it due to the high frequency of wimax SUCKS. The other inherent problem is battery drain. Having the wimax radio on murders the battery. Where as tmobile phones the "4G" radios do comsume more power, but not to the effect of wimax handsets. A plus side to sprint is the data transfer isnt throttled when you hit 2gigs. You get full speed data no matter how much data you have used. (in most cases)
The other thing I dislike is if my phone loses the 4G signal, the wimax radio goes into a "sleep" state after so long, and you have to manually pull down the notification shade to tell it to scan for 4G networks again. Happens on all of the HTC Sprint 4G devices. I had the epic before (samsung) and 4G switching happened on the fly, sort of like tmobiles phones do.
I would go for it tho, if Sprint works in your area then to hell with it why wait?
Just be aware that Sprint is getting the Galaxy s2 within the next month or two...so Id defintely say wait a little bit to see both and see which one you like more.
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In my test with tmobile they got better 3g whenit works I do have more drop calls in tmobile and almost none on sprint, but if I would have to get tmobile I would definitely go with the sensation really nice phone evo 3d brother and the. Only thing is the it has less ram and no 3d which I could live with
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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In my test with tmobile they got better 3g whenit works I do have more drop calls in tmobile and almost none on sprint, but if I would have to get tmobile I would definitely go with the sensation really nice phone evo 3d brother and the. Only thing is the it has less ram and no 3d which I could live with
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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i agree, I would prefer the sensation over the 3d because its slimmer and doesnt have the extra screen layer, so it looks like the images jump right off the screen. not downing the the 3D at all, but i would have preferred the sensation. Im never going to use the 3D stuff
Has T-Mobile announced they're getting the 3D?
I assumed the Sensation was to be their version of it.
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Has T-Mobile announced they're getting the 3D?
I assumed the Sensation was to be their version of it.
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Official no
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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Has T-Mobile announced they're getting the 3D?
I assumed the Sensation was to be their version of it.
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Ah, I meant T-Mobile USA. There is a European GSM EVO 3D model coming possibly in September or soon after. Part of the reason I am interested in waiting is that I do enjoy my current T-Mobile USA plan--no contract. I switch phones every few months and it's been a really long while since there's been a phone that's kept me interested long enough to want to sign a contract.
Here's a link to the Rogers version of the GSM model (850/1900/2100 3G bands) and the UK Amazon version of the GSM model (900/AWS 1700/2100 UMTS bands; Sept 12 due date).
I really appreciate all of the thoughts you guys (and gals?).
I just got mine today and so far im very happy. The pentile display isn't at all noticeable (and im pretty nit picky). The rep did say that it appears that they've improved the screen on newer stock. I timed my purchase so that if the epic 4g touch (galaxy s 2) comes out next month as is expected then i should still be in the 30 day return policy.
On another note, i found out today that apparently sprint is switching to or adding a 4g LTE network. Not sure if this will replace wimax or supplement it. So far I've heard this from three different sprint employees who i know and trust.
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jdverley said:
On another note, i found out today that apparently sprint is switching to or adding a 4g LTE network. Not sure if this will replace wimax or supplement it. So far I've heard this from three different sprint employees who i know and trust.
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Sorry not trying to be mean or anything but that's not news. It's been reported for a while now.
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Sorry not trying to be mean or anything but that's not news. It's been reported for a while now.
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Yeah Sprint signed a deal to install LTE, and since Sprint has stopped with their Wimax installs I would say that they are switching gears and going to LTE instead of Wimax. From what the network engineers have told me, its a simple software upgrade so I'm hoping my new Photon will not be obsolete.
I'm not 100% on a simple software upgrade but after LTE is put up wimax will still be around for a year or 2 after the fact so we won't be obsolete for that time frame...
If you are close to upgrading now, you shouldn't wait it will be awhile before they start releasing phones for LTE,
I work for sprint and we have got newsletters that Dan Hesse will announce our 4g lte plans in october.
Lightsquare is the company sprint signed the deal with
And more than that it will be a while before there is a wide LTE deployment anywhere but a major city. LTE isn't going to be a serious factor for most sprint customers for two years at least.
(I live in a city with one million people in the metro area and we still don't have WiMAX... I'm not holding my breath for 4g service anytime soon.)
One thing to keep in mind, is that Sprint could very well continue to make use of WiMAX alongside of LTE technology. WiMAX is PURELY for data, whereas LTE is used for both. There is no reason why LTE has to necessarily replace WiMAX.
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Yeah Sprint signed a deal to install LTE, and since Sprint has stopped with their Wimax installs I would say that they are switching gears and going to LTE instead of Wimax. From what the network engineers have told me, its a simple software upgrade so I'm hoping my new Photon will not be obsolete.
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From my understanding it's not just a simple sofware upgrade for phones. The Photon doesn't have the LTE radios installed to receive the signal.
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From my understanding it's not just a simple sofware upgrade for phones. The Photon doesn't have the LTE radios installed to receive the signal.
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But from what I have read and have been corrected in another thread the LTE will be on 3 different spectrum's not just one like Verizon. There is some website that shows the hardware differences and stuff and in there is info on how they will implement LTE.
Snippet from http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219837
Currently, Sprint/Nextel/Clear has three different protocols on three different spectrum bands distibuted on 82,000 towers. By comparison, Verizon and AT&T have about 40,000 towers each. Network Vision will reduce the number of towers to around 45,000 to 50,000 towers, while setting up the remaining towers to handle all three spectrum bands (800 MHz, 1.9 GHz, and 2.5 GHz) and any protocol (CDMA, Wimax, LTE, etc). This will provide Sprint with substantial savings in maintenance costs.
No WiMax yet
In Omaha we don't even have WiMax yet, does this mean we never will and the Photon will never be more than a 3G phone?
I'm a.happy e3d owner but knowing that the photon is a world phone with gsm radios on top of cdma I have a question..now that you guys have an unlocked bootloader (congratulations) do you think its possible that the photon will be able to run on t mobile or at&t LTE bands or at least hspa+ That would be pretty sick knowing that Wimax on sprint is.pretty useless at least for me...
I'm a Sprint Product Launch Ambassador for the Photon 4G and a corporate Sprint Technician.
The Network is upgradable, but the phones are not. Choose to upgrade today and I'll bet you a fiver you'll be up for upgrade again by the time LTE is actually flipped on.
The Network Vision equipment is so modular, that multiple technologies can be run in one single Base Station. Easy to upgrade, switch out, and plenty of slots to run LTE + Wimax concurrently.
I highly doubt our network engineers are going to get a mandate that states shut down Wimax on X day, and leave all users out in the cold with those devices. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It will be just like the current migration of Iden, those who choose to move over to CDMA on their next upgrade can do so, those who choose not to (that NEED PTT as a requirement) will have the option to use the new Direct Connect Network when they are ready to upgrade phones later...as it's easier to just drop the Iden line of Phones and carry the next gen CDMA Nextel line in it's place for upgraders to choose from. Something that will give us a 2 year buffer for those clinging to the PTT service as a must before it's shut down completely...but by then, no one will have not had the opportunity during an upgrade to choose CDMA totally or the new CDMA PTT services.
So, that means those cities that don't already have WiMax will still get it on schedule in spite of the move to LTE?
Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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You really shouldn't let 4g be the deciding factor. I have 4g where I live and I don't even use it once a month. 4g is a battery hog. Besides even if it wasn't and you were putting 4g to good use on Verizon your bill would be through the roof.
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Switch to verizon if you want to pay $80 a month for 10 gigs of data.
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Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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dustbuckets said:
Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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I can count on my thumb how many times I have switched on 4G on my Photon the last two weeks.
My contract with Verizon ends this week. Really thinking hard about switching from Verizon to AT&T to get this phone. I went and played with one at the store yesterday. Screen was amazing! I have unlimited data with Verizon right now and thats the only thing holding me back right now. Anyone make the switch and care to comment.
Had the iphone and other android phone with verizon madebthe switch day one the Gnote came out And love it i also had unlimited data l and gave it up just got 5 gbs and i dont thin it will.make a big difference As im on wifi at home most of the time butbi rarely hit 5 gbs while on verizon but the GNote is totally worth the switch to AT&T specially if yu got LTE in your city
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I did the same thing! The note is the craziest phone ever! I'm in the same boat I usually use wi fi at home so it wasn't a huge deal to go down to 3 gigs a month. Plus the deal killer with verizon was the spotty 4G lte coverage. If I switched from lte to 3g I was losing data for about 5 minutes at a time, or I would lose it altogether! I complained so much they let me out of my contract almost 2 years early. Best thing I ever did!
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Well major bummer! Was excited to switch to AT&T this week for the Note. Thought my contract was up on the 15th. Seems I'm eligible for a discount on the 15th and my contract goes through July. I'll be keeping an eye on this forum and if the Note/Journal or whatever they might call it doesn't make it Verizon by then...see ya Verizon!
I'm making the switch and can't wait. I'm also giving up unlimited data but have never used that much data anyway. That may change when I get this phone because I may have better HSPZ+ and LTE coverage .
Verizon
My contract with Verizon is up in June.
If no news on the Journal by then: it's AT&T and The Note.
Been with Verizon for eleven years. First and only carrier.
Swedishmafia;23519403 Plus the deal killer with verizon was the spotty 4G lte coverage.[/QUOTE said:
You find ATT's LTE coverage less spotty than Verizon?
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I LOVE my note, but if I wasn't locked into AT&T I would have looked hard at the galaxy nexus. I'd miss the bigger screen of the note, but the nexus screen is pretty big as well, and it's always nice to have a google phone. It's still LTE, already running ICS, and probably will have better/more sustained devleopment over its lifetime. Plus, I think overall verizon coverage is a little better and more reliable, although in my area, AT&T is fine.
A potential upside to AT&T is that if you are in an area where Verizon doesn't have LTE, I think (but I'm not sure) that Verizon falls back to CDMA, which is slower than even 3G on AT&T. But if you don't have LTE on AT&T, there's a good chance that HSPA+ 4G is available instead, which is noticeably faster than 3G on AT&T, which, again, is itself faster than Verizon's CDMA. This is to say, that if I'm not mistaken, if you're with Verizon and you don't have LTE, you're looking at pretty slow data on CDMA. But if you have AT&T there's a good chance you're on HSPA+ instead and still looking at some pretty stout speeds.
Coming from my iphone 4 on AT&T 3G, I find that their 4G HSPA+ is noticeably faster (in real usage, not just tests) than 3G was. And the HSPA+ coverage is nice... in fact, I'm not sure I've been on a 3G network yet anywhere I've been, it's all been at least HSPA+ or LTE, even out in the country. My understanding is that Verizon's LTE rollout is quite a bit more widespread than AT&Ts at this point, but I haven't been on it to say for sure just how far past the cities it really is. If their LTE coverage gets to the areas you frequent, you're good to go already, but if it's not much further out than around big cities, depending on where you spend your time, you could see faster speeds with AT&T by utilizing their 4G HSPA+ in areas where Verizon does not yet have LTE. So that's my long winded version of what I *think* I know, but I'm sure someone will correct me.
Anyway, after having the big ass screen, I don't think I could ever go smaller. Bigger, sure, maybe another half an inch or more, but I would struggle adjusting to something smaller.
Another Verizon to AT&T GNote user here. Had unlimited 4G on a Thunderbolt. Was worth it to switch back to AT&T (which I had before Verizon) since we now have LTE in New York.
I even broke contract with ETF to do it. Still worth it to me.
I just switched from a iPhone 4S on Verizon with unlimited Data to the Note on AT&T
I'm not even looking back NOTE=WIN
I had the Verizon galaxy nexus.....I switxhed to tmobile to get the galaxy s2...withing 14 days I broke contract to at&t....lol....the galaxy nexus is nothing to brag about...tmobile s2 is faster to me..but crappy customer service and signal....so far the coverage on At&t where I live is awesome..and the note rooted...with v6..scripts makes this phone a blazing beast by far the best phone I've owned
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Phone looks great no doubt. But as a gnex user.. same Android OS, don't see the need to change for the most part. The one thing that could sway me is the 4g radio which my nexus sucks with. 4g radios eat battery and Samsung 4g radios can barely hold 4g
Surprised we went from single to dual to quad cores before the next lte radio. Hope the 4g radio in this phone is better than the gnex
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Phone looks great no doubt. But as a gnex user.. same Android OS, don't see the need to change for the most part. The one thing that could sway me is the 4g radio which my nexus sucks with. 4g radios eat battery and Samsung 4g radios can barely hold 4g
Surprised we went from single to dual to quad cores before the next lte radio. Hope the 4g radio in this phone is better than the gnex
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That's mainly a Verizon problem because of its CDMA network. All LTE phones on Verizon has to maintain two radio interfaces open all the time: one for CDMA for voice and one for LTE for data. Until Verizon switches over to VoLTE (not anytime soon), you will have to suffer with that for all future LTE phones.
If you want to see how 2nd gen LTE phone works, look no further than all current AT&T LTE phones where phones only need to maintain one radio interface on. When voice call is activated, the phone automatically falls back to HSPA mode.
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That's mainly a Verizon problem because of its CDMA network. All LTE phones on Verizon has to maintain two radio interfaces open all the time: one for CDMA for voice and one for LTE for data. Until Verizon switches over to VoLTE (not anytime soon), you will have to suffer with that for all future LTE phones.
If you want to see how 2nd gen LTE phone works, look no further than all current AT&T LTE phones where phones only need to maintain one radio interface on. When voice call is activated, the phone automatically falls back to HSPA mode.
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Nope. I had a thunderbolt. Held. 4g everywhere like glue. My gnex can't even hold 4g in my room where the TB pulled 20+ on speed tests
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Nope. I had a thunderbolt. Held. 4g everywhere like glue. My gnex can't even hold 4g in my room where the TB pulled 20+ on speed tests
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Ok, I see where you are going. What I'm talking about is battery life on LTE phones which is the biggest problem on all LTE phones, not the speed. TB is notorous for poor battery life. As for signal strength, from what I heard, it is actually a discrepency between GB (what your TB is on) and ICS (what your GN is on). Basically, GB reports CDMA signal strength while ICS reports LTE signal strength.I have couple friends with TBs and their phone don't exactly holding on to LTE signals like you said. They lost LTE signal when office door closes