just was looking at the bootloader screen on my evo 3d hboot 1.40 and i dont say revolutionary at the top?? is this ok?? its says shooter xc ship s-off RL..
Yeah. You're okay.
revolutionary will be what it saysd when you boot into the recovery moide,,,, tghe hboot mode is a different partiotion compared to that and is installed separately....
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aight cool i thought so.. my other evo 3d that i just sold said revolutionary at the top of the bootloader.. and i also see it on other peoples too.
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revolutionary will be what it saysd when you boot into the recovery moide,,,, tghe hboot mode is a different partiotion compared to that and is installed separately....
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why would it say revolutionary when i boot into recovery??? i never heard of that?? just sayin.. some peoples bootloader says rovolutionary at the top.. my last 3d that i just sold said it at the top but the one i gots now dont say it for some reason..
If your phone shipped with S-OFF like my wife's did, you do not need to unlock the phone with the Revolutionary system so it won't say Revolutionary at the top of the Bootloader screen.
Loading TWRP allows you an easy way of managing your phone and flashing things like ROMs.
evod3 said:
why would it say revolutionary when i boot into recovery??? i never heard of that?? just sayin.. some peoples bootloader says rovolutionary at the top.. my last 3d that i just sold said it at the top but the one i gots now dont say it for some reason..
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yours wont say revolutionary bc from what you have listed you use the TWRP recovery and not ClockworkMod.... they are different flavors of recovery and each one is to its own creator....clockworkmod is from revolutionary.io and TWRP is from team windows recovery project...
when rooting with Revolutionary, it's apparently the final flash which puts the purple "Revolutionary" banner up there. when I rooted my brother's phone, that last flash didn't complete successfully, so it does not have the banner but is correctly rooted.
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yours wont say revolutionary bc from what you have listed you use the TWRP recovery and not ClockworkMod.... they are different flavors of recovery and each one is to its own creator....clockworkmod is from revolutionary.io and TWRP is from team windows recovery project...
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I use twrp and mine has the rev brand at the top.
#Root-Hack\Mod*Always_
""Shooter on Deck""
both evo 3d's that i had were hboot 1.40 both were rooted using revolutionary both also had twrp for a recovery.. one says revo at the top of the bootloader and one dont...
That's simple. When s-off'd with revolutionary, your hboot is upped to 1.40.100 and says revolutionary at the top in purple. Mine was like that. I personally flashed back to hboot 1.40.000 and so it doesn't say anything at the top like how you described. This is a good thing. It looks as it were factory s-off since it doesn't say "unlocked" or "revolutionary"
If you want it to say revolutionary again, just rerun revolutionary. LOL
Only important thing is that it reads s-off.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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That's simple. When s-off'd with revolutionary, your hboot is upped to 1.40.100 and says revolutionary at the top in purple. Mine was like that. I personally flashed back to hboot 1.40.000 and so it doesn't say anything at the top like how you described. This is a good thing. It looks as it were factory s-off since it doesn't say "unlocked" or "revolutionary"
If you want it to say revolutionary again, just rerun revolutionary. LOL
Only important thing is that it reads s-off.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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im cool with it not saying it.. i was just woundering why and u gave me that answer.. thanks bro!!
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So someone mentioned in a thread I read that they were on hboot 1.4 with s-off and they were having issues (that aren't important to the topic of this thread) so they used a 2.08 RUU to return to stock, which flashed hboot 1.5 onto their phone. This person said they checked their bootloader and saw that it was indeed hboot 1.5, then they RUU'd back to an older stock ROM and their bootloader was hboot 1.4.
So, was this workaround for being able to Revolutionary unlock an HTC Evo 3D common knowledge before and it's old news now, or had nobody thought of doing this earlier to get rid of hboot 1.5? I was one of the lucky ones who first got my 3vo less than a month ago, yet it came with hboot 1.3 (now it's on the eng bootloader of course ). so I'm too afraid of losing my revolutionary root to try this myself, but I figured I'd at least put this out there in its own thread so that all you adventurous types stuck with hboot 1.5 can try this out and report your findings.
NOTE: as stated before, I did not try this myself and the person who said they tried this did not prove it to me or anyone else, they merely stated it and since this is the internet, I go by "pics or it didn't happen" if information comes from an untrusted source. I'm not responsible for bricks and impregnation of your daughter(s), and all that other stuff devs usually claim no responsibility for in their disclaimers.
You can change the bootloader if you're s-off, you can't if you're s-on
Twolazyg said:
You can change the bootloader if you're s-off, you can't if you're s-on
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Does that apply even if you're using an RUU? I knew you couldn't change the bootloader if you tried to flash using fastboot, but I didn't remember seeing anything about not being able to through RUU (though I guess I never saw anything that said you could through RUU either...)
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Does that apply even if you're using an RUU? I knew you couldn't change the bootloader if you tried to flash using fastboot, but I didn't remember seeing anything about not being able to through RUU (though I guess I never saw anything that said you could through RUU either...)
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yes, you will remain s-off
t3project said:
yes, you will remain s-off
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Well I should've known it was too good to be true, that you could get to an old bootloader through an RUU. Thanks to both of you for the quick and helpful responses.
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Well I should've known it was too good to be true, that you could get to an old bootloader through an RUU. Thanks to both of you for the quick and helpful responses.
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sounded like a good idea. would love to get back to hboot 1.40
will it work how does it work and if so how do i do it im stuck with a hboot 1.5 im rooted but s on still
tashsru said:
will it work how does it work and if so how do i do it im stuck with a hboot 1.5 im rooted but s on still
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You are stuck with 1.50 with no changes in sight. At present time you can only change hboot if you are S-off.
I have hboot 1.5, and so far I've been able to do all the same things as a person with s-off.
Is there anything else you can do with s-off that s-on users can't do?
I only ask cause so many people say they hate this 1.5 hboot.
s3nt from my 3D wond3rland
Are you able to boot into recovery and flash a rom without using a pc?
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I have hboot 1.5, and so far I've been able to do all the same things as a person with s-off.
Is there anything else you can do with s-off that s-on users can't do?
I only ask cause so many people say they hate this 1.5 hboot.
s3nt from my 3D wond3rland
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It is alot easier if you have S-OFF, as you dont have to use fastboot or joeykrim's app to flash kernels and such.
I believe only S-OFF users can flash splash screens? Dont quote me on it though.
You can't flash radios or boot logos.
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It's just a lot more convenient having S-off. I got lucky and my device came with 1.40 hboot.
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Are you able to boot into recovery and flash a rom without using a pc?
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Yeah i can do that i use Joeys app to flash kernels though.
Bootlogos not a big deal but i can see not being able to flash radios being a problem.
s3nt from my 3D wond3rland
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i did HTC Unlock Hboot 1.50 + TWRP Recovery + Root + Flash, a while ago. works great but i would like to install the New OTA upgrades can anyone help me...
If your hboot 1.5 and HTC unlocked, HTC has you on record as giving up your devices warranty. I know its not exactly what you were asking for but I think its worth pointing out
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i did HTC Unlock Hboot 1.50 + TWRP Recovery + Root + Flash, a while ago. works great but i would like to install the New OTA upgrades can anyone help me...
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If you're S-On, you have to "relock" the bootloader to install the OTA update. See the the GUide/Flashing Notes in my signature (it's in the stickies thread too) . I have the links you need in there.
I'm stuck on 1.5 unfortunately. Would be great if we can get s-off but I dnt know if that's ever going to be possible
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Benefits of S-Off:
-Flash kernels from recovery
-Flash splash screens
-Flash radios
-Flash bootloaders
-Not in HTC's unlocked database
-Can S-on at any time (not really recommended)
-You aren't limited to anything. You can do ANYTHING with your phone.
If I were you, I would downgrade to HBOOT 1.40 since you have S-Off.
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If your hboot 1.5 and HTC unlocked, HTC has you on record as giving up your devices warranty. I know its not exactly what you were asking for but I think its worth pointing out
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This its only a concern if you are sending the phone back to HTC, sprint doesn't care.
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Hi all, I had an OG Evo and and Evo 3D. Both were rooted using various methods. HTCDEV unlocks became available right around when I rooted with Revolutionary.
I have been seeing some weird questions and comments in the forums. So if anyone can help out with some clarifying (links for me to read on my own are very welcome) it would be great.
- I have seen some posts stating that ROOT was achieved in the Dev forum, but S-OFF was not achieved. Don't you need S-OFF on HTC devices to achieve full root status? If not, what is the point of getting S-OFF then?
- HTCDEV only allows you to flash custom ROMs as I understand it. I assume that you can then flash SuperUser as well. Going this route looks like it voids the warranty. So why in the world would you do this? Many of the ROMs I used on the Evo 3D had special instructions for these people. It looked like it caused a headache. I understand this doesn't allow for custom kernels or to upgrade the radios without doing something (I have no idea what) special. Is this right?
- With Sprint now supporting rooted devices, why would you use HTCDEV (I have a feeling the answers to this will be...colorful)?
Thanks people!
S-OFF was meaningless ever since 4EXT recovery came out. I was able to flash anything without problems on the go using 4EXT recovery. The recovery can be found on the play store and I highly recommend buying the full version for $3 bucks. Best app I ever payed for.
I had the 3D unlocked HTC dev S-ON.
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S-OFF was meaningless ever since 4EXT recovery came out. I was able to flash anything without problems on the go using 4EXT recovery. The recovery can be found on the play store and I highly recommend buying the full version for $3 bucks. Best app I ever payed for.
I had the 3D unlocked HTC dev S-ON.
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Yeah, the only reason I disagree with this is cause when I got me replacement 3d it came with hboot 1.5 and I htcdev unlocked it and put 4ext and tried to flash roms and nothing worked ever. It worked perfectly with 1.4 and the eng hboot but htcdev was horrible for me s-off way beats htcdev s-on
alainater said:
Yeah, the only reason I disagree with this is cause when I got me replacement 3d it came with hboot 1.5 and I htcdev unlocked it and put 4ext and tried to flash roms and nothing worked ever. It worked perfectly with 1.4 and the eng hboot but htcdev was horrible for me s-off way beats htcdev s-on
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Damn! I wonder why it didn't work. It took me a while to get used to all its features but worked flawlessly. I was in the same boat had no choice received hboot 1.5 but if I was given a choice I would want the security flag OFF. Hopefully this can be achieved this time around.
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S-OFF was meaningless ever since 4EXT recovery came out. I was able to flash anything without problems on the go using 4EXT recovery. The recovery can be found on the play store and I highly recommend buying the full version for $3 bucks. Best app I ever payed for.
I had the 3D unlocked HTC dev S-ON.
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S-OFF is not meaningless. There are quite a few reasons why it is better than htcdev crappy boot unlock.
Hey guys, anyone have advice on whether or not to use HtcDev unlock method or wait for another method? I have a protection plan through Best Buy and they don't even check to see if its been "tampered" or not if I need a replacement. I am coming from EVO 3D and had hboot v1.4 so I never needed to use the HTC method. Just curious if it is harder to flash Roms and kernels with HTC method I guess. Thanks for the help in advance and its great to see such great devs working on this great phone already.
For the 3d it was a little harder, but not sure if that's the case for the LTE. I am personally gonna wait for s-off, but there is an app that let's you flash kernels without going through fastboot. Flashimage GUI I'm sure it will have to be updated to work with the LTE if It's even needed.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
There is no s-off right now, but there are custom recoveries that work with the HTCDev unlock. Which means, custom roms and backups.
So am I correct in assuming that htcdev unlock with a custom recovery will function the same as s-off in terms of flashing roms, kernels, etc.? Also I should be able to still execute an s-off after performing the htcdev unlock, correct? I would hate to do the htc unlock method and then not be able to get s-off... Thanks again guys!
I have a similar question. When i use HTC dev to unlock, they will keep track. Do they notify sprint that my phone is no longer stock? Can you htc dev LOCK, so as to get it back to normal? I kinda don't even want to root if I have to let HTC know that I'm doing it by htc dev.
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I have a similar question. When i use HTC dev to unlock, they will keep track. Do they notify sprint that my phone is no longer stock? Can you htc dev LOCK, so as to get it back to normal? I kinda don't even want to root if I have to let HTC know that I'm doing it by htc dev.
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When you dev unlock HTC keeps the sn of your phone on file as being unlocked, I doubt they say anything to Sprint though. Even if you relock HTC still knows. I would give it a couple weeks and see if we get s-off if not then you might want to reconsider htcs method.
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So am I correct in assuming that htcdev unlock with a custom recovery will function the same as s-off in terms of flashing roms, kernels, etc.? Also I should be able to still execute an s-off after performing the htcdev unlock, correct? I would hate to do the htc unlock method and then not be able to get s-off... Thanks again guys!
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Not sure about s-off after unlock though I don't see why you couldn't, but on the 3d with the HTC unlock method you had to either fastboot into recovery through adb or use flashimage GUI to flash kernels.
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First off htc dev sucks. I had it for a while on my evo 3d with hboot 1.5 and it was terrible and I was dying from being confused on how to flash roms. It worked great for some people and for others like me it didn't. So far right now i'm htcdev unlocked and it's fine I guess. Of course once we get s-off i'll totally go that way as s-off is soooooo much better than the dev unlock.
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First off htc dev sucks. I had it for a while on my evo 3d with hboot 1.5 and it was terrible and I was dying from being confused on how to flash roms. It worked great for some people and for others like me it didn't. So far right now i'm htcdev unlocked and it's fine I guess. Of course once we get s-off i'll totally go that way as s-off is soooooo much better than the dev unlock.
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Yeah I heard it was terrible on the 3D, luckily I had hboot 1.4 so I had s-off... Is it as terrible with the LTE? It seems to me that with clockworkmod recovery and htcdev unlock you are able to flash zips the same as with s-off. Don't know if I am correct on that though...
I thought I read that somewhere too. If that's the case HTC dev unlock would be fine with me.
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I thought I read that somewhere too. If that's the case HTC dev unlock would be fine with me.
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Yea me too, I have already registered with the htcdev website just awaiting confirmation that I can flash zips as usual...
Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Yea thats what I seem to be reading. It seems if you just flash the ruu that it will re-lock the phone as if it was never done. Sounds great, I will try it out tonight! Thanks guys
HTC unlocked last night no problems. Also rooted first in under a min on Friday night after I picked the phone up. use Goo manager in the market to install TWRP after HTC unlocked, very easy. flashed viper ROM today, and everything is fast and sweet. Don't know what U are all waiting for, go ahead.
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HTC unlocked last night no problems. Also rooted first in under a min on Friday night after I picked the phone up. use Goo manager in the market to install TWRP after HTC unlocked, very easy. flashed viper ROM today, and everything is fast and sweet. Don't know what U are all waiting for, go ahead.
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Cool Ryan thanks for the confirmation I will be rooting and unlocking tonight!
Now if the htc unlock allows us to write to boot to flash recovery and kernels, would there even be a reason to wait for dev S-off? besides not having to register with htc?
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Now if the htc unlock allows us to write to boot to flash recovery and kernels, would there even be a reason to wait for dev S-off? besides not having to register with htc?
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Flashing different radios, I believe. Can't do that without S-OFF.
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Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Just to clarify: So unlocking via the HTC method, installing this and then un-rooting with the RUU (if necessary) won't show any evidence of 'tampering', correct?
It might not show any evedence but HTC will know, they keep track of what phones are unlocked. That's why you go through the whole process with the unlock codes.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
I dont understand what anybody cares if you register with HTC or not. I have insurance with Sprint and I have taken my phone to them to get repaired without any problems.
S-OFF your EVO 3D to flash custom ROMs without PC.
Check your current bootloader version. To do this Just go to settings > Power > Uncheck Fastboot and switch off your phone. Or you can turn your phone off then remove and reinsert the battery.
Hold "Volume down + Power" buttons simultaneously.
Your phoe is now booted into hboot menu.
You can find your current hboot version on the top of the screen.
If you have got hboot 1.4 or lower then go to revoluionary.io and follow the instructions to gain S-OFF
If you have got hboot 1.50 or above go to unlimited.io of and follow the steps.
These steps are tricky and may brick your device.
Follow it properly with caution and you should be fine.
It will set your phone free from all restrictions.
You can flash different ROMs, kernels, radios, recoveries, bootaimations, splash screen and much more from the comfort of the device itself.
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wtf ??? Flash without pc???
you need a pc to run revolutionary or unlimited.
Your lucky if you get an evo 3d with hboot 1.4. Even though both revolutionary and juopunutbear can potentially brick your phone, I would say that revolutionary is the safest method IF you already have 1.4
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Your lucky if you get an evo 3d with hboot 1.4. Even though both revolutionary and juopunutbear can potentially brick your phone, I would say that revolutionary is the safest method IF you already have 1.4
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For the record, I've never hear of JuopunutBear bricking anyone's phone. Some people have had to restore and try again later but I don't think it has rendered anyone's phone useless once they figure out how to restart or recover.
Just don't want people getting scared off from a method that is pretty safe, although a little scary for some.
ramjet73
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For the record, I've never hear of JuopunutBear bricking anyone's phone. Some people have had to restore and try again later but I don't think it has rendered anyone's phone useless once they figure out how to restart or recover.
Just don't want people getting scared off from a method that is pretty safe, although a little scary for some.
ramjet73
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It is a little scary, I am not trying to scare anyone. Although anything we do has that potential. That happened to me when I attempted the wire trick. I had to restore my phone. I got scared because I thought I had bricked my phone. lol :laugh:
I have hboot 1.58 I think
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But would this work WITHOUT A PC ... like can I do it from ny phone
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mastiffhastings said:
But would this work WITHOUT A PC ... like can I do it from ny phone
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I'm afraid not. As far as I know, all methods require a computer.
Ok thanks ... What about if I downloaded the files to my phone and hooked it up on a computer without internet
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Ok thanks ... What about if I downloaded the files to my phone and hooked it up on a computer without internet
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I don't recall about the revolutionary. But jbear would need internet. You would need to first unlock it from htcdev.
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Will have to try this...
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S-OFF your EVO 3D to flash custom ROMs without PC.
Check your current bootloader version. To do this Just go to settings > Power > Uncheck Fastboot and switch off your phone. Or you can turn your phone off then remove and reinsert the battery.
Hold "Volume down + Power" buttons simultaneously.
Your phoe is now booted into hboot menu.
You can find your current hboot version on the top of the screen.
If you have got hboot 1.4 or lower then go to revoluionary.io and follow the instructions to gain S-OFF
If you have got hboot 1.50 or above go to unlimited.io of and follow the steps.
These steps are tricky and may brick your device.
Follow it properly with caution and you should be fine.
It will set your phone free from all restrictions.
You can flash different ROMs, kernels, radios, recoveries, bootaimations, splash screen and much more from the comfort of the device itself.
The Micheal Hastings and his HTC EVO 3D
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