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Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
zimphishmonger said:
Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
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I would also like to know this??
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I would also like to know this??
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
The K-Zoo Kid said:
Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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No because GV uses data
Juice Defender will definitely save you battery, but it depends what type of user you are.
I used to love this app. It was one of my top 3 apps and I recommended this app to everyone I knew. It saved me a few hours of battery life with the default settings. But one day I decided to turn it off to see how my phone would preform. I noticed that JD slows down my phone (not too much, but since I play with my phone a lot, I do notice a difference). I kinda figured this since every time I turned my screen on, it would have to reconnect itself to 3G. It got a bit of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it won't bug that many people.
Now, my friend uses this app as well, and he gets amazing battery life with JD enabled. He only turns on his phone when he needs to (check email, responds to text, picks up a call, etc.)
So for the past month or so, I have stopped using JD. I'm the type of guy that touches my phone every 30 min or so. I like turn it on and mess with it just for the hell of it. So if you're like me, then I do not recommend this app, since you will notice a slight lag after turning the screen on with JD enabled.
Now if you're at work and only check your phone when you have to, then I highly recommend this app. It will definitely save you battery life. Don't know too much about the settings since I haven't touched it in awhile, but I mainly left it at the default settings.
Another tip that I noticed that saves battery is orientation. Ever since I disabled it in settings, I do notice a battery increase (I'm guessing the sensors are not always on causing it to save more battery?) Hope this little review helps zimp.
You can set it to turn on every 15 mins or whatever so you can still get your messages. I didn't like how it keep turn off my data every time the screen turned off even if it was only for a sec. I'm not convined that continually turn data on/off improves battery. If you leave phone on stand by for several hours then maybe, but I don't think a.power user gets much benefit from it. Also it is always running in the background so just having a widget to switch to plane mode might work better for you.
I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
cnrdjkr said:
I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
To op, I used Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice and noticed it would slow my phone down and I would miss syncs and my information would go out of wack. I found the best way to conserve battery as an overuser is to turn off 3g. I use 2g 3g switcher. It allows you to switch between 3g and 2g. I gained at least 6 more hours on a full charge by turning it on only when I need the 3g speeds. Ie: downloading and surfing the net. For everything else Edge was more than enough. I went from roughly 12 hours medium-heavy use to 20-24. I'm also using Jac's uv voodoo kernel and vibrant 9.
I hope this helps,
Russ
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I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
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Agreed, I noticed an increase in battery life after uninstalling jd.
I did get better batery life after installing JAC's kernel (with undervolting) on top of bionix 1.3. I did not oc, yet. I read in the op you use vodoo, there is a JAC's kernel with voodoo written in with it now, but the process from going from your stock with voodoo to a new kernel with voodoo is admittedly beyond my experience level to talk about. That might garner some research on your part. The undervolting written into the kernel does extend battery life, I've been off my charger since about 9 this morning, normal to heavy use, currently at 43 percent battery left.
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use Tasker app. much better then JuiceDefender and much more options.....pretty much endless options. and it also supports all Locale Plug-ins.
Thanks for the recommendations! Interesting that so many of you actually had worse battery life after using it. May try it for another day and see how it works out.
Regarding the voodoo, I am still testing to see if voodoo uses more power or not. Theoretically it shouldn't, but who knows. its extremely easy to enable\disable voodoo, so easy that its worth keeping even if you keep it disabled, as its the same kernel as JAC's UV but + voodoo.
Appreciate the responses. I will play w/ JD for another day or so, will try tasker, adn see which has the best results.
To those that were worried about syncs like Voice, Emails, tweets, etc, its really easy to set it up so that those processes arent interrupted, especially w/ the ultimatejuice. I have it set up so it still syncs and background data apps like pandora work fine, just interested in everyones experience
Zim, I was having battery drain issues with jac's oc-uv kernel until I did the cycle/reset batt stats. Not I am getting GREAT battery life! You prolly already tried it but if not give it a shot.
Juice Defender has increased my battery life by x2.22...........really remarkable this program is!
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Master™ said:
I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
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Ha that's funny.
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Personally, I dont use anything extra and my phone gets GREAT battery life
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Why would you use those programs I'm sure they kill battery life faster I have lots of sync'd accounts on my phone and keep it on high performance and I get 16+ hours of battery with phone games and more if I turn on my custom battery setting from the stock battery manager I have gotten almost 2 days of life. You need to reevaluate bro battery on this phone is sick I even have an extra battery and have never had to use it.
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abrcrmdl23 said:
Why would you use those programs I'm sure they kill battery life faster I have lots of sync'd accounts on my phone and keep it on high performance and I get 16+ hours of battery with phone games and more if I turn on my custom battery setting from the stock battery manager I have gotten almost 2 days of life. You need to reevaluate bro battery on this phone is sick I even have an extra battery and have never had to use it.
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I used my phone moderately with some email usage, calls and a few games and i got about 13 hours of battery life and had about 6% battery juice left to spare. How are you getting som much battery life? Did you do anything with the Sprint Bloatware? Did you uninstall some apps or freeze the. P
Thanks in advance....
I use Y5 to auto enable/disable my WiFi connections. Keeps the phone on Wifi as much as possible and I don't have to mess with it.
Juice defender does that. Before I had wifi constantly on, gps, 4g and battery wasnt what id expect. I mean ive never had it die on me yet but close. No frills controls clock speed depending on how much I need. Since ive installed juice and no frills battery is way better.
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depends on what im doing. If i plan to be using my phone in and out of my pocket alot, ill have juice defender turned on.
if i know im going to be talking alot that day, texting and not much need for internet, then ill just leave my 3g widget off for mobile network.
other then that, the phone has great battery life.
I must say, on my evo i got super annal about having full charge and wanting to keep charging it all the time. I swear id get an uneasy feeling in my stomach if it went below 50%. when i first got this phone and had the 10% marks instead of the 1% marks, my brain about blew up and i didnt know what to do! lol
but now ive began to like the 10% marks bc im not as annal about wanting to plug my phone in bc now i dont see the amount it dropped in the last few minutes.
in all.. i guess this phone was made for me, or like the windows 7 people "my name is logan, and i invented the photon"
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I currently have JuiceDefender Ultimate (Waiting on CyanogenMod port because it works best with it) No-Frills-CPU Control and Autokiller Memory Optimizer.
Phone is rooted
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I'm in the same boat as you. I've been using/trying juice defender and have it set on balanced. It says I save about 1.5% every day. I have to email accounts syncing, text about 50 a day and use about 10min of internet and I was down to 40% in 9hrs. This was with out make a phone call today. Juice defender doesn't seem to really help anything.
I use an app called Brightness Profiles from the Market. Used it on my old HTC Hero as well. Its a precise, quick and easy way to manually control the screen brightness. Most of the time indoors I have brightness set to 0 or 10% which is plenty bright for me and saves a ton of battery.
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I use an app called Brightness Profiles from the Market. Used it on my old HTC Hero as well. Its a precise, quick and easy way to manually control the screen brightness. Most of the time indoors I have brightness set to 0 or 10% which is plenty bright for me and saves a ton of battery.
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I was just noticing the brightness of the Photon's screen last night just before fallin asleep. My evo on 0% was DARK in a dark room, but at 100% in the sun you couldnt see. The photon seems to be in a different ballpark. 0% it still looks super bright and 100% is WOW a light in the sky.
when i look at when my battery is being drained the most, its def when that screen is on. i think a rom or theme with black/night colors will def help out because the bright colors of white are probably not any aid to the battery conservation.
yesterday i kept juice defender off all day. got 14 hours and 37 minutes till it hit the 30% mark and the icon changed colors. i had about 2 hours of web surfing, about 3 hours of total call time, and about 150 texts and almost a dozen MMS. (buddy just picked up a new chocolate lab puppy )
so im impressed. i def agree, looks like juice defender is not a good fit for the phone yet. the toggling radios on and off probably kills alot of power.
I have to agree, Juice Defender doesn't seem to be doing much. I get around 1.47-1.6 with JuiceDefender.
Other than that I run SetCPU with my profiles set up.
I some times when I am at work use a custom battery setting which pots screen at lowest and disables data during peak hours after 45 minutes of inactivity. It works great especially when I am at work and have some longer breaks between checking my phone. I also work and live right next to a sprint tower so I always have great coverage.
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I still need to use juice defender ultimate for about a week to get a good history from it but right now im at almost 19hrs to full battery drain.
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Juice Defender, 36-38 hours before switching to 2nd battery.
Set to sync all every 1 hour. Twitter, corporate mail, 2 gmails, corp calender, contacts, etc.
The main difference is I set the screen to off in Juice Defender under toggles, not to trigger the data on just because I pulled the phone out and turned the screen on, doesn't mean I want to get on the web. I can easily pull up local info w/o that. In the morning, and in the evening, wifi is on for 30 mins or less each time to download podcasts on doggcatcher.
Lots of texts, calls , 150+ emails delivered a day, plenty of app usage, plenty of google.com searches. Maybe 1-2 app updates a day. Audio and video usage around 3-4 hrs daily.
I can go to work at 7:20 in the morning, get off at 5-5:30, and my batt stats are 75% left. Am usually sitting at 60-65% left by that 12th hour.
Can you let me know what your exact juice defender settings are? I have ultimate juice defender and am lucky to get 8 hrs per charge,
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Can you let me know what your exact juice defender settings are? I have ultimate juice defender and am lucky to get 8 hrs per charge,
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That's because you actually use your phone. These people who claim 30+ hrs of battery just have it sitting around most of the day not doing anything on it...very minimal use. For people who bought a smart phone to actually use the "smart" features of it, they will see anywhere between 8 -15, of good use. Keep in mind these phone are only rated for 7-8 hrs of continuous use, max. I say, use it how you want, don't cripple your phone with auto killers and apps that turn your data off, that's the whole point of your smart phone is to consume and transmit data. Use it how its meant to be used and enjoy it!
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If you have root I would say autokiller memory optimizer. Has some cool features.
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That's because you actually use your phone. These people who claim 30+ hrs of battery just have it sitting around most of the day not doing anything on it...very minimal use. For people who bought a smart phone to actually use the "smart" features of it, they will see anywhere between 8 -15, of good use. Keep in mind these phone are only rated for 7-8 hrs of continuous use, max. I say, use it how you want, don't cripple your phone with auto killers and apps that turn your data off, that's the whole point of your smart phone is to consume and transmit data. Use it how its meant to be used and enjoy it!
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Well said. My advice is just find a cheep aftermarket battery and keep it handy just in case.
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Why buy juice defender when the photon has these features built in. Just go to battery mode and chose "Maximum battery saver". After 15 mins it will turn off all syncing activity. Also when you're not using your phone turn off syncing completely it really helps your phone last 10-15 hours easily. I'm a very heavy user so while I'm at work I just turn off sync! Plus I also received a replacement battery from Motorola because my original battery had problems. I couldn't get more than 8 hours with the first battery (maybe defective) so they sent new one.
I agree with the post on people claiming 20-30 hrs.. they flat out dont google and drool over theyre screen all day.. like most others do though.. that is why batt life is always always will be a huge issue!
Nothing ever really will help kernels.. roms ...juice def..undervolting.. it really
dont make the huge diff people expect..
Samsung has about the best batt life youll find on an android device.. with the exception of a few devices.. dual core affects alot more than a noticeable benifit!
Only real option to date is a EXTENDED BATTERY!
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Ok so ive been using JD for months and months. Ive heard lots of mixed reviews on it, opinions please?
http://www.google.com/cse?q=juicede...59-1#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=juicedefender&gsc.page=1
My opinion is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349714
I never liked it and it didn't seem like it did all too much for me. I do use Juice Plotter though.
Why not just the system built-in power saving
More than anything else I like about juice defender (though I'm using ultimate) is wifi management. Auto shuts off wifi when I'm out of range, but every so often turns it on for a few seconds to see if there's any known networks nearby, if not it immediately shuts it off again. It's rare I ever have to manually turn my wifi on or off.
And I have noticed better battery life with auto sync shut off when the screen if off. I have it set to check every 20 minutes.
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Well whats your opinion since you have been using for months and months?
I know it wasn't directed at me but I have used it for months. And I like it alot. It doesn't get in the way. If it's bothering you then it's not set up right. I like knowing autosync apps only run once every 20 minutes instead of continously. And I regularly am happy when I look at my phone and it's either connected to a network I know or off.
As far as how much it extends my battery, i don't know. I have a 3500mah battery. Makes it hard to figure out how much smaller tweaks do when the battery lasts beyond all day already.
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The main problem I had, even with Juice defender ultimate, was that background apps like trillian or irc don't work even when the app enable is on... enabling and disabling juice defender was a pain in the ass, and I barely saw any extra battery life. Sometimes the settings would reset, and the app takes a long time to load to re-enable it... The only thing that I do like about it is the nighttime schedule where it disables all traffic during certain hours of the night (keeps me asleep) however, there are plenty of other apps that do that, and JD is not worth it.
Hi,
I want to know about your experiences with Juice Defender (free version), especially on ICS phones.
Is it really useful? Does it really "expand your battery life"? Or did it become obsolete like most of the "task killers"?
at mine it does it very good, i do use the ultimate for 6 euro's on market... it really helps me since it makes it able to let my phone hang in the whole day instead of 8 hours. if u really need more battery live just buy a bigger battery along side, i use anker 1900 mah
HatteSoul said:
Hi,
I want to know about your experiences with Juice Defender (free version), especially on ICS phones.
Is it really useful? Does it really "expand your battery life"? Or did it become obsolete like most of the "task killers"?
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I use it on ARHD ICS and to me it does seem to help. Could just be a placebo effect but I don't care, it's staying until I see otherwise.
i used it before (when i had Inc S)..... didn't feel any benefit from it while i was using it.
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Hi guys
I try several pay and free apps ( include Juice defender ) to save battery but the only one I recommend and use to save at least 50% battery is Super Power from XDA Developer
Trick - On settings - Disconnect data for 30 min and reconnect periodic for 2~3 min to update mail, and all internet connections
Give a try
Best regards
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vitor silva said:
Hi guys
I try several pay and free apps ( include Juice defender ) to save battery but the only one I recommend and use to save at least 50% battery is Super Power from XDA Developer
Trick - On settings - Disconnect data for 30 min and reconnect periodic for 2~3 min to update mail, and all internet connections
Give a try
Best regards
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Correct me, but isn't the development of SuperPower discontinued? More than 1 year ago?
I think I will give JuiceDefender another try...
I had juice defender on my nexus one and it was amazing. Phone for two days with moderate use. However when I installed in on my galaxy s2 it actually seemed to drain battery. And fast. Same settings and everything
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Does JuiceDefender Ultimate actually helps to reduce battery? As I'm using Miracle V4 and play games abit and the battery drains
No. Save your money. It messed up my phone and took a lot of energy for itself. Search for battery tutorial instead. There are few apps which help u to analyse which apps consume most batterylife. Or buy new battery for 7 €
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not really. its for lazy people who constantly forgot to turn off bluetooth, wifi etc. all what it does can be done manually.
some say it actually uses more battery as it closes cached (not running) apps which are then forced to reload when called - consuming more CPU - Hence - More battery!
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some say it actually uses more battery as it closes cached (not running) apps which are then forced to reload when called - consuming more CPU - Hence - More battery!
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Yep i confirm that. And if not setup properly it causes problems e.g not waking up data connection. After i deinstalled i didnt even get Data connection
Edit: what i found in another thread is that there could be metal swarf the chargejack (sorry asked Google for translation) that cause battery drain. So u could try cleaning with air pressure
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According to the app I extended my battery life with x1.3 but I didnt really feel any difference. Removed the app cause of the ram usage primarily.
The app is really good
Customize everything on your own
It would help a lot
And get the ultimate version and use the advance configuration
Everything is explained perfectly
READ!!!
Be Kind everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle
I just use Autostarts so that apps that run on background will just be disabled in the first place.
Better to just configure stuff yourself. Its free and doesnt cause conflicts that could arise from enabling stuff that juice defender disables. I used juice defender free at first when i didnt know anything about battery and it helped a lot. Then I tried it again when i learnt enough about what drains battery and had my phone configured, this time juice defender was worthless and actually increased battery consumption.
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It's useless believe me.
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Conclusion said:
Does JuiceDefender Ultimate actually helps to reduce battery? As I'm using Miracle V4 and play games abit and the battery drains
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believe me if u know that bluetooth , wifi , GPRS/EDGE use battery and is not a lazy asss. u dont need to waste ur precious money on such battery and RAM hogger...
whats the use if automatically switches to airplane mode at night and one day at 3 am there is someone calling u for emergency and alas ur phone is on airplane mode...
it runs in background eats up ur RAM and BATTERY TOO....
if u are on a custom rom.... just push down the notification and use the 14 toggles mod... y waste precious bucks for just 3 click???
IMP: if u constantly use ur [hone .. juice defender cant do a ****.... its only useful if u just switch on ur phone 2 times in 3 hrs...
In my experience it saves me about 3 hours of battery a day. So yeah, I think it is worth it.
I'm using premium instead of ultimate by the way.
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Same, Plus user here. When I used the stock ROM, the battery life was impressive with it. But when I switched to a custom one, the difference was little to none. Even when I leave my phone screen switched off when not using, it would last a max of 3-4 days before I've to recharge.
There are definitely some issues with JD ultimate.
Battery drained out completely overnight when I don't have any schedule running, not sure what ate the battery frm 36% to 0. I am regretting that I paid money for this app when it didn't work as advertised.