Remember the HD2 days and other random "high end" devices with dual boot capabilities? Now obviously the photon is one of the top phones out right now and it would be amazing to be able to boot into a rom of my choice without going through nandroid. A true multi boot. Cm9 is my daily rom but sometimes I miss miui which was my daily on my x10 and the occasional gingerbread. But as you all know cm9 is still in beta with random issues. Like for example, video recording and video chat(flaky). So to be able to switch to a miui rom or a stable gingerbread rom withen seconds just from a simple reboot would be fantastic. I remember reading an article on the xda portal that the dual boot days have not got the light it deserves and I think its time to bring it back. If there are any devs on the photon forum willing to tackle this and show progress I will donate a reasonably good amount as I'm sure others will too.
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Well I know when I was on the Evo a lot of people used Boot Manager for booting multiple roms at once. It doesn't look like the Photon is one of their supported devices right now, so you may want to email the developer.
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The developer of the boot manager finally emailed me back and pretty much doubts support for the photon. He says the photon does not allow the app permission to use the boot partition. Could someone with better knowledge of this please explain? And will the photon ever allow access to the boot partition or is it just the way it was designed
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The developer of the boot manager finally emailed me back and pretty much doubts support for the photon. He says the photon does not allow the app permission to use the boot partition. Could someone with better knowledge of this please explain? And will the photon ever allow access to the boot partition or is it just the way it was designed
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Sounds like the developer isn't aware our bootloader has been unlocked. /boot houses the bootloader and the kernel. You need an unlocked bootloader to write to it, hence why you need to be unlocked to flash a kernel (boot.img). Using the same logic, that's why none of the roms for locked phones have a kernel.
I've never used the tool in question but I'd reply back and see if the above info affects the compatibility.
I messaged him back about that and this is his response.
" The bootloader on the photon is unlocked but it's not fully open. I could be wrong because we've tested many phones but I beleive when we tested on the photon we could not dump the boot.img or flash a new one while the phone was booted. It had to be done from recovery. We've released a lite version of the app that you can download from free and put in your devices variables and see if the phone setup will work(That tries to make a backup of the current boot.img on the device for later use) but would tell us if the app had access. We had this issue with some of the other moto phone's with unlocked bootloaders such as the Atrix."
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So can any of u photon experts help this guy out? Or is it just simply not possible..
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I know this doesnt exactly belong in this forum but lets face it most of the topics in here arent since the bootloader is not hacked and everone is speaking hypotheticals. I know over in the droid x droid 2 forums ( droids with bootloaders) there are roms with no motoblur. What are the odds that well see that here for the atrix. Lets face it motoblur could be worse but there are some things like the gallery that should not have been messed with. If i could do any of this i would but i cant. Has anyone tried to contact anyone in those forums for support? They have had more time with motos version of android so im sure they have some insight. I bought this phone knowing i might not be able to flash custom roms but if we can get rid of most of moto blur this phone would be heading in the right direction.
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I think with a deo rom, and root, you can sideload your own gallery, your own launcher, mod your keyboard, etc, and be almost 100% free of blur on your own...
imho..
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It will happen one way or the other. Right now I believe folks are waiting for a leaked sbf or update.zip to be able to restore a dead phone. Even the source at opensource.motorola.com will be usefull once they release it. I have been working on a method. I have a custom recovery that inits from the default recoverys reboot option. But it does not work either cuz there is still signature checks on the bootloader. Btw there is custom roms for the backflip and the bootloader is still locked deblurred and such
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Where can i find the right gallery apk for the atrix? I have tried a few and no luck....also do i need to use adb or can i just use root explorer
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Hello
I'm thinking of getting an atrix
But have heard of a locked bootloader on Motorola devices what does this mean
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there wont be any custom ROMs for the phone until someone is able to get past it without bricking theirs.. if you are not the kind to flash custom ROMs onto your phones, this probably wont affect you much.
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Hello
I'm thinking of getting an atrix
But have heard of a locked bootloader on Motorola devices what does this mean
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The bootloader is what loads up the operating sytem in very simple terms. By locking or signing it, it means that we need to present motorola's certificate every time we want to load a custom ROM/kernel.
Though what he says is true, you can still root the phone, install pseudo-custom ROMs (they are all right here in the forums) and do tons of other things.
This is still a great great phone though and probably the best in the market in my opinion.
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The bootloader is what loads up the operating sytem in very simple terms. By locking or signing it, it means that we need to present motorola's certificate every time we want to load a custom ROM/kernel.
Though what he says is true, you can still root the phone, install pseudo-custom ROMs (they are all right here in the forums) and do tons of other things.
This is still a great great phone though and probably the best in the market in my opinion.
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I will miss cm wait how do they get cyanogenmod and custom kernels in the Droid?
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Alanrocks15 said:
Hello
I'm thinking of getting an atrix
But have heard of a locked bootloader on Motorola devices what does this mean
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So did you get the Atrix...???
Im trying to figure out the same... its either a Atrix or a LG optimus 2x... reaalllyyy confused... esp since i loved the full customization on my SGS just like you...!!
Bootloader is unlocked now. no worries
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Yea had it for a few days unlocked the loader in gb
But gave it to my sister.
Temporarily got an hd2
I have the Atrix on Telus Mobility. It's unlocked and I am running Gingerbreak right now as we speak. I love the phone but i hope This works.
Any news or updates on the Photon 4G Unlocked Bootloader w/ 4G?
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Any news or updates on the Photon 4G Unlocked Bootloader w/ 4G?
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We are all keeping it a secret and not posting about it.
Lol, just curious if any devs have news about this, like if it is still in the works, and possibly done, just not posted yet.
I'm with deeds on this one. With all of the recent updates and new kernels and whatnot, its hard to decipher exactly where we stand with this phone, as far as progress. A quick recap of whats been happening would be great.
I love your screen name, it is so awesome, lol.
Check out bravehearts&devs thread by joker he seems to be making progress with unlocked bl having 4g
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Check out bravehearts&devs thread by joker he seems to be making progress with unlocked bl having 4g
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Link or where to find this ? I would unlock. but I live in a good 4G area.....
Update, its not fixed yet. Limited time plus lack of help= slow progress. However by unlocking you can have cm7, miui(oops secrets out), oc kernels, and other awesomeness. Imagine 60% increase in speed while increasing battery life massively. Thats how we mophos roll.
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Update, its not fixed yet. Limited time plus lack of help= slow progress. However by unlocking you can have cm7, miui(oops secrets out), oc kernels, and other awesomeness. Imagine 60% increase in speed while increasing battery life massively. Thats how we mophos roll.
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I would like to have CM7 just the issue with 4G breaking is a deal breaker for me at the moment anyway I can help?
Jo_795 said:
I would like to have CM7 just the issue with 4G breaking is a deal breaker for me at the moment anyway I can help?
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Same here, no ROM on my phone until there's an unlocked bootloader from Motorola/Sprint that keeps 4G. For now, its just a rooted phone with ADW launcher.
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Update, its not fixed yet. Limited time plus lack of help= slow progress. However by unlocking you can have cm7, miui(oops secrets out), oc kernels, and other awesomeness. Imagine 60% increase in speed while increasing battery life massively. Thats how we mophos roll.
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I would like to know more. No 4G is stopping me as well. I'm not a programmer, but what kind of help do you seek?
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Same here, no ROM on my phone until there's an unlocked bootloader from Motorola/Sprint that keeps 4G. For now, its just a rooted phone with ADW launcher.
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I'm with you on this one .. +1
Running Skinny4g ...until the unlocked bootloader 4g issue is resolved
better than stock to me
point me in the right direction!!
I have the photon with an unlocked bootlaoder, I had it rooted but for some reason couldn't flash cwm. So I tried unrooting and returning back to stock following qbking77s how to video. But it told me process failed and phone would just stick at motorola dual core screen. So I reflashed the unlocked version I had and can't undo it! Please help.
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I have the photon with an unlocked bootlaoder, I had it rooted but for some reason couldn't flash cwm. So I tried unrooting and returning back to stock following qbking77s how to video. But it told me process failed and phone would just stick at motorola dual core screen. So I reflashed the unlocked version I had and can't undo it! Please help.
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Did u try a hard reset ? My mopho got stuck in a boot loop and hard reset fixed it
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joshua.allen128 said:
I have the photon with an unlocked bootlaoder, I had it rooted but for some reason couldn't flash cwm. So I tried unrooting and returning back to stock following qbking77s how to video. But it told me process failed and phone would just stick at motorola dual core screen. So I reflashed the unlocked version I had and can't undo it! Please help.
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I suggest that you start your own thread, (I don't have an issue with you posting about this here), but you'd get more responses for help if you post in a new thread. The only people that will read this are the few with bootloader news, like I said, the few. But, if you ask for help in a new thread, chances are, you'll find what you're looking for. Good luck!
You can unlock your bootloader, flash cm7 (or your rom of choice), and relock your bootloader, and then voila.
CM7 with 4g.
But dont use those as exact intructions LOL.
Theyre are threads about it. Look in the dev section.
You might want to try that out before you suggest it.
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You can unlock your bootloader, flash cm7 (or your rom of choice), and relock your bootloader, and then voila.
CM7 with 4g.
But dont use those as exact intructions LOL.
Theyre are threads about it. Look in the dev section.
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I was actually going to post my own thread for devs to give 4g updates hehe
I really appreciate what you devs are doing! Ill always be open to help if you need any, im not a developer but interested in learning and am pretty damn good at the basics of rooting/build.prop recovery etc..
One question (even though i should prob make my own thread im not in a hurry to get the answer plus its half the same subject) i have the cmw RECOVERY, ive been out of town and since im normally in kansas city (sprints headquarters, so perfect 4g everywhere) i just wanted to check, if i have cmw RECOVERY does this mean ive lost 4g?
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Nevermind! Saw some post on how to unlock your bootloader! Ive nevee had to do a bootloader unlock before thats why i was confused and ive rooted atleast 5 different devices.
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I wanted to have a dual boot for 2of my ROMS... one wud be Cm7 and other CM9... so is there any bootstrap or Safestrap available for Atric 4g? I searched on XDA as well as Googled through many pages but was left unanswered
Any help Appreciated
I think this particular soc won't allow for it without making a boot rom mounting system
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I think this particular soc won't allow for it without making a boot rom mounting system
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I have no clue wats Boot Rom Mounting system... Any hellp details plzzz
What he means is this: It probably isn't possible.
I believe it is possible, and a couple of people have attempted half heartedly to do it, but unless someone who has the knowledge to do this right is to pick this up and run with it, it won't happen. I doubt you would see this on the Atrix now in any event, as there are not enought devs to go around, and the devs we have are working on ROM's and kernels.
Sorry, i couldnt find anything either, but It would be pretty awesome to have DualBoot on my Atrix.
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It would be cool
Well tbere's always the next device mayb it will be able to
There is a post for making boot manager work on the ATRIX I am currently using it but you have to install zip in cwm to boot rom1 and recover boot thro advanced restore for your main ROM
Hit thanks if this was helpful
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Well, what about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508017
It's in the Xperia's development forum, yeah, but the Atrix 4G is definitely a GSM phone, so I don't see why this kernel wouldn't work. Of course, I don't know anything about the technical stuff behind it--could we get a second opinion on this?
I really want to be able to have the Neutrino ROM on my phone along with a Blur-based ROM so I can use my Webtop.
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Well, what about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508017
It's in the Xperia's development forum, yeah, but the Atrix 4G is definitely a GSM phone, so I don't see why this kernel wouldn't work. Of course, I don't know anything about the technical stuff behind it--could we get a second opinion on this?
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Different manufacturers, different devices, different hardware, won't work!
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Different manufacturers, different devices, different hardware, won't work!
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Well, that's a downer. Thanks, man.
I don't know if it can help,
but Multi-Boot ROMS worked on Motorola Defy,
I guess it's possible for atrix too, perhaps some dev take a good look here at this LINK
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I don't know if it can help,
but Multi-Boot ROMS worked on Motorola Defy,
I guess it's possible for atrix too, perhaps some dev take a good look here at this LINK
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The only problem with that is that the Defy has completely different hardware.
Alright, I'm tired of this bootloader crap! I need anyone and everyone interested in helping me get this MoPho'in bootloader unlocked on 2.3.5!
We have WAY to many people stuck on GB (after Moto said we'd have ICS ) on this beast of a phone!
Before anyone asks, YES i have the skills to do this, just not enough to do it quickly.
With that said I do bring some skills to the table.
I can program in the Android language and port just about anything anyone can come up with.
I know my tech (to put it short)
Please anyone with the same feeling as me, come help me out in ANY way possible. Even if it's just testing. I would greatly appreciate it!
Please people!
I am not a dev. But I would be glad to help. As a suggestion, Perhaps we could start by finding a solution for unlocking mophos that were factory shipped with 2.35 such as is done with the electrify. It could provide a lot of insight.
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Awesome. I need time to check out the electrify system. I'll post my findings soon
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im not a dev either but if there's anything you need that i can help out with let me know.
Hmm well I learned that sprint was a big reason the BL got locked. The Electrify sbf (Yes i flashed it) is unlockable easily however my radios dont work so i cant have that. I did find some cool things inside the System partition. I rooted it up and got a file browser (ES). The blocks where the BL is has a special file called infooemenc.encf assuming this has to do with our "fastboot oem unlock" command problem. That file however was a fluke. My phone soft reset itself (doesnt like the Electrify rom) and POOF gone... Very suspicious. i had to relock to go back to photon state though
Add me to the crew. I'm happy to help as a dev, or otherwise if we need something else.
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Add me to the crew. I'm happy to help as a dev, or otherwise if we need something else.
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Sweet! The crew is growing! We may be able to get this done!
Could anyone try and help me find the 2.3.5 254_13 sunfire (Sprint) Sbf file i wanna compare the soak to the Electrify unlockable
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Perhaps we could start by finding a solution for unlocking mophos that were factory shipped with 2.35 such as is done with the electrify. It could provide a lot of insight.
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What's funny is that point exactly. We can unlock factory shipped electrifys and ones with the right sbf
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Hmm well I learned that sprint was a big reason the BL got locked. The Electrify sbf (Yes i flashed it) is unlockable easily however my radios dont work so i cant have that. I did find some cool things inside the System partition. I rooted it up and got a file browser (ES). The blocks where the BL is has a special file called infooemenc.encf assuming this has to do with our "fastboot oem unlock" command problem. That file however was a fluke. My phone soft reset itself (doesnt like the Electrify rom) and POOF gone... Very suspicious. i had to relock to go back to photon state though
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wait what?
you do realize the same phone shipped months earlier on a different carrier and was locked? (and then was released later too).
moto's first device to offer unlocking services was a sprint device. rather than jumping on teh locked samsung bandwagon they are still one of teh few companies that have most of their devices unlockable. as well as their tech support doesnt care if you are rooted as if its a software issue they are going to flash stock.
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wait what?
you do realize the same phone shipped months earlier on a different carrier and was locked? (and then was released later too).
moto's first device to offer unlocking services was a sprint device. rather than jumping on teh locked samsung bandwagon they are still one of teh few companies that have most of their devices unlockable. as well as their tech support doesnt care if you are rooted as if its a software issue they are going to flash stock.
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Yes I know but there was a slight difference in the 2.3.5 factory Electrify that somehow caused an exploit (when i said it was easy i meant it was for me)
But still on the current matter we want this BL unlocked and there HAS to be a way! That's why people are joining up. They wanna be out of the hole Moto decided to throw us into. (After lying about ICS)
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Could anyone try and help me find the 2.3.5 254_13 sunfire (Sprint) Sbf file i wanna compare the soak to the Electrify unlockable
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Looking, but also found this along the away:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/photon4g.motorola/files/PHOTON-4G/4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13/
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Looking, but also fund this along the away:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/photon4g.motorola/files/PHOTON-4G/4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13/
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This is the Sprint version?! :victory::fingers-crossed:
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wait what?
you do realize the same phone shipped months earlier on a different carrier and was locked? (and then was released later too).
moto's first device to offer unlocking services was a sprint device. rather than jumping on teh locked samsung bandwagon they are still one of teh few companies that have most of their devices unlockable. as well as their tech support doesnt care if you are rooted as if its a software issue they are going to flash stock.
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Oh and also i just dont like how Moto and Sprint are just so mean to us :crying:
No, just files they had to supply as open source.
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No, just files they had to supply as open source.
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Dang I wanna get the full sbf lemme see what files they got here...
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I spy with my little eye a kernel file hehehe wonder what we might do with that??
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Is this the rom you are looking for?
Is this the rom you are looking for?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30332325
To devs:
Instead of trying to find a way to crack the boot loader why can we make a boot able sdcard that works around the bootloader? Like for the nooks the bootloader is still locked but we can run custom ROMs off the sdcard without any problems.. Just a thought..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2063968
Subscribed, glad to see some new action around here.
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