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Now that the latest mini's are announced with 2.3 it should be that much easier for SE to release 2.3 update for older mini's. Plus they are also on board with the latest Andriod update policy, anyway to remind this fact i started a thread in fb se fan page which is guaranteed to bring their attention.
facebook dot com slash topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=26305 (im unable to link because i haven't posted many here)
are you sure?
uchitha said:
Now that the latest mini's are announced with 2.3 it should be that much easier for SE to release 2.3 update for older mini's. Plus they are also on board with the latest Andriod update policy, anyway to remind this fact i started a thread in fb se fan page which is guaranteed to bring their attention.
facebook dot com slash topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=26305 (im unable to link because i haven't posted many here)
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Knowing Sony.. they will never update our "old" mini/minipro..
They have to. Google posted new codex
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They have to. Google posted new codex
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I don't think so.
I suppose it apply just for "new" phones, not "old" ones
Doubt it: knowing Sony , theyll just say the original X10 mini never existed.
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hope this updated coming through
they will not update it the new mini and the new pro are completely different then the old mini and the old pro screen size ARM family and that ****
they will not make an update for old mini and pro coz the new mini and pro are realeased
We still have to write the official site!
While I would very much like an oficial update, it just wouldn't make any sense for a commercial point of view, even if the new Mini line was the same hardware, they want to sell more phones, not rehash old ones.
I think that SE never release Android 2.3 for old mini/mini pro... I' m owner of mini pro and I just rooted and used MiniCM v7 what's Android 2.3 and it's much better than SE ever can release
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I think that SE never release Android 2.3 for old mini/mini pro... I' m owner of mini pro and I just rooted and used MiniCM v7 what's Android 2.3 and it's much better than SE ever can release
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Are you sure? Because until nobodyatAll fixes it, Your Mini Pro won't be able to use the 5MP Camera or VGA Recording, things that would be working perfectly on a stock SE 2.3 ROM.
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Are you sure? Because until nobodyatAll fixes it, Your Mini Pro won't be able to use the 5MP Camera or VGA Recording, things that would be working perfectly on a stock SE 2.3 ROM.
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But the fix will come faster then sony updating it to 2.3 (chances of this: 0 XD)
sony doesnt care about old phones i dont care about them neither.
our phones works alot better with xda dev ROMs thanks to owain & slade and other devs you guys rock
Write your angry letters here
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia™-x10/
Пишем свои гневные письма сюда
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia™-x10/
What are the realistic factors limiting them in making an update for our Mini/MP's?
I understand that the hardware specs are different, but they both possess the same functionality and run the same features. If they're making the update for the x10, surely it wouldn't be too great a leap in tweaking it to release on a device thats pretty much exactly the same? I'm not a developer, but it just sounds like a cop out.
I understand that it is almost impossible that SE upgrades old minis.
But, as long as the new minis have android 2.3, I'm sure that it would be easier to develop a custom ROM based on that one.
Let's hope it's stable.
Yes but why? They're just a smaller version of the same phone but with slightly less impressive specs i.e. the x10 has a 1ghz processor, whilst the mini/MP has a 600mhz processor, which has been overclocked comfortably by a lot of guys here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075320
There is no realistic factor limiting them, its probably just their marketing department.
Has anyone got any news if Sony is going to release the ICS update they promised in the early of April? As they promised other Xperia 2011 phones ICS will be coming to them end of March, it doesn't look likely that XMP will be getting ICS soon? Has anyone got some recent news?
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Has anyone got any news if Sony is going to release the ICS update they promised in the early of April? As they promised other Xperia 2011 phones ICS will be coming to them end of March, it doesn't look likely that XMP will be getting ICS soon? Has anyone got some recent news?
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/products/2012/03/30/the-vans-around-the-corner-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-software-upgrade-coming-to-2011-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-vans-around-the-corner-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-software-upgrade-coming-to-2011-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april said:
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The first Xperia models to receive the upgrade will be Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray. For these first models, the rollout will start mid-April and continue over 4-6 weeks.*
Following on, Xperia arc, Xperia PLAY, Xperia neo, Xperia mini, Xperia mini pro, Xperia pro, Xperia active and Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman will receive their scoop starting from the end of May/early June.*
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*The availability and scheduling of this software upgrade and specific models upgradeable to Android 4.0 will vary by market and carrier requirements.
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Xperia mini, mini pro and Live with Walkman only getting ICS by end of May and beggining of June.
Damn it, Sony.
A bit of looking in the General section...I didn't post this long ago
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572875
Well you probably read it around the same time so it's an easy mistake.
Yeah, 1 month delay. Looking at the beta roms (official) I'm confused about what the UI will be on the Mini/Pro. Will we have the ICS blue icons throughout, continue the SE UI, or a mix? I've seen a mix of all that on the betas available. I have loved almost every UI design SE has done. BUT I do NOT like much of the new Sony UI. Some of their phone designs are nice and unique, but I do NOT like their UI, I don't want it.
I just noticed that one of the final big features missing in the custom 4.0 roms has been fixed: the camera. Now I'm happy to download a custom 4.0, especially given the delay.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
I'm also really confused about many things.
First Sony said that the update was planed for end of April/Begging of may, now they are just delaying it
Also, I've never seen a beta ROM or a screenshot of the Timescape UI for smaller phones for ICS.
So disappointed....I flashed stocked ROM and relock bootloader just to update to official ICS update but now I have to wait till end of May or even beginning of June....WTF SONY??!!?!
Sony just delays the update in 1 months so we can have our fun time with the custom ROMs around
Update was delayed because of 3rd party certifications, maybe because they were busy in certifying Samsung and htc roms. 1 months isn't that long BTW.
1 month is not long at all. Should i remind you that the Xperia Pro (not the mini pro) was delayed around 8 months?
Besides, what is all the hype with ICS? You wont realise what is going under the hood, the UI will be exactly the same as it is now... Just because it is new doesn't mean its better, most of the times. Remember the bugs 4.0.3 had? the Changelog for 4.0.4 has some hundreds of changes to it from 4.0.3... So yea...
Sony have delayed the release of the ICS for the Arc S, Ray etc to mid april... So i guess we will have to wait a whole lot longer, more like mid june or something...
May be you should try some unofficial builds....
AOSP build by kamarush is really stable and i am using it on a daily basis... well xcept for hd recording...
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That's exactly why I've started with the custom roms for this phone. Stock SE runs perfectly, obviously so I didn't want to leave it until custom 4.0 were v stable. My fav is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554996&page=26
i really like the default ics UI.. so i picked up the custom ICS build by kamarush and expeacer. stable enough now for daily use.
Mid april??? I don't think so,after two weeks SONY give us new release date
Hi,
As subject says.
I am having right now white xperia mini pro But i am planning to buy Xperia U. Should I buy???
would u suggest to buy? if not may u would lik to tell my why
I will be really thankful if u help me, i m really confused
The only real differences are the Software and the design.
My mom got an Xperia U and it's really awesome, the only downsides are the camera (bad in darkness) and no MicroSD card slot.
The Xperia U has a very beautiful design and a camera shutter button. The One V is thin and simple but the chin is very ugly and so unneccesary.
On the software you'll have to tell yourself, I personally like the Sony UI and Sony has some great apps, but also a lot of bloatware, I've only had Xperia Phones so I haven't had a TouchWiz or Sense phone, but from what I've seen I think that Sense is really ugly EXCEPT for Sense 4 (I think the One V has Sense 4) which is actually really beautiful and ICS optimized, also the Xperia U won't get ICS for a few months but if that doesn't concern you then I recommend the Xperia U.
Here are video reviews of the UIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqU055WWofY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D31VMIJuMBs
I won't recommend xperia U.Personally I don't have it.My friend recently bought it and he regrets it.The main draw backs are no support of Devs(atleast for now).No ICS out of the box.Although sony promised an update we don't know when(correct me if I'm wrong)
So a better choice would be (according to me) Galaxy Nexus.It has got the best dev support.You get "instant" updates.And stock experience is what I like.So add a few bucks get Gnex.Only down side is bit a lag in 3d games but better than Xperia U.And other alternative is keep your xperia mini and get the Nexus 7 tablet if u aren't committed to a phone .
Hope I helped You.Think twice before buying
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I won't recommend xperia U.Personally I don't have it.My friend recently bought it and he regrets it.The main draw backs are no support of Devs(atleast for now).No ICS out of the box.Although sony promised an update we don't know when(correct me if I'm wrong)
So a better choice would be (according to me) Galaxy Nexus.It has got the best dev support.You get "instant" updates.And stock experience is what I like.So add a few bucks get Gnex.Only down side is bit a lag in 3d games but better than Xperia U.And other alternative is keep your xperia mini and get the Nexus 7 tablet if u aren't committed to a phone .
Hope I helped You.Think twice before buying
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I was gonna recommend Galaxy Nexus too but it's a little more expensive.
You're right, Xperia U has a small community, but it's still pretty new and Sony Mobile isn't that big in the US, mostly sold in Sweden and Japan. Also Gingerbread SUCKS but if you're patient you can wait for ICS, and this guy just got ICS for his Xperia Mini so he's used to GB.
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I won't recommend xperia U.Personally I don't have it.My friend recently bought it and he regrets it.The main draw backs are no support of Devs(atleast for now).No ICS out of the box.Although sony promised an update we don't know when(correct me if I'm wrong)
So a better choice would be (according to me) Galaxy Nexus.It has got the best dev support.You get "instant" updates.And stock experience is what I like.So add a few bucks get Gnex.Only down side is bit a lag in 3d games but better than Xperia U.And other alternative is keep your xperia mini and get the Nexus 7 tablet if u aren't committed to a phone .
Hope I helped You.Think twice before buying
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I think Gnex is not in India i guess, correct if i am wrong.
The phones just launched and the dev support will be there slowly i think.
Out of the Box Ics is not a importnt thing when u can get it by updating later or sooner
I already got dell streak with 5inch screen and ipad. so i guess i wont go for gnex7 tab
Oscar-Mark said:
The only real differences are the Software and the design.
My mom got an Xperia U and it's really awesome, the only downsides are the camera (bad in darkness) and no MicroSD card slot.
The Xperia U has a very beautiful design and a camera shutter button. The One V is thin and simple but the chin is very ugly and so unneccesary.
On the software you'll have to tell yourself, I personally like the Sony UI and Sony has some great apps, but also a lot of bloatware, I've only had Xperia Phones so I haven't had a TouchWiz or Sense phone, but from what I've seen I think that Sense is really ugly EXCEPT for Sense 4 (I think the One V has Sense 4) which is actually really beautiful and ICS optimized, also the Xperia U won't get ICS for a few months but if that doesn't concern you then I recommend the Xperia U.
Here are video reviews of the UIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqU055WWofY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D31VMIJuMBs
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I also personlly dnt like htc UI, i remember i bought htc explorer b4 my xperia mini pro and i replaced it in 1 day.:silly:
Sony UI is always evergreen user friendly
btw, **** for ics update. man when jelly beans will be in action , sony will give ics. wow, confusing
I recommend xperia Go! i have one and i love it
nghia_kid2000 said:
I recommend xperia Go! i have one and i love it
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But the screen of GO is more smaller than U ???
and whats internal storage size and sd there??
@Moderaters.........Please close this thread, as the problem/confusion is solved. Got me Xperia u
pm the forum mod with your thread link posting here wouldnt help
Well you could always hope for a direct Jelly Bean upgrade, but Sony are so lazy with skinning Jelly Bean so I wouldn't think so.
But Jelly beans on Xperia U .......eehhhhh
wen Ics update decreases the RAM then i think JB will kill it. i mean JB will be requireing alot space.
btw, any1 know eta for ics on U
Hi guys, seeing there are many good roms for ray thanks to the great developers present here in XDA. My friend is using galaxy y and i switch here and there sometimes, so i noticed this every rom developed for galaxy y has some difference in them even though they are generated from touch wiz, for example transparent interface and other stuff. Why all the roms for ray come with the sony or nova or apex launchers only and not any customized launchers and in xperia x8 section i saw htc port for xperia. So guys if you are planning to develope roms further for ray pls try to implement any one of these like sense,touchwiz ports etc...
thanks guys for reading this and i hope someone develops a rom with combined functionality cheers mates
Well, I had a Xperia X8 in the past (I killed it by trying to unlock the bootloader lol), and the "HTC port" is not more than Android Gingerbread 2.3.7 with a skinned launcher and official HTC wallpapers. Somebody said that it was not possible to port real Sense because X8 hardware limitations.
However, ROMS like CM7 were very well ported, before destroying my X8 I could use a CM7 based ROM (I think it was GingerDX) with everything working (even in locked bootloader), like AOSP lockscreen, moving apps to SD and fake multitouch (both things not possible with SONY official stock ROM for X8), etc.
Now, the reason of releasing ROMs with Xperia official Launcher is because most developers and users in this section are SONY fans I guess (that's why we got a SONY device). A friend of mine owns a Samsung Galaxy and touchwiz is not a big deal, it has some kind of nice stuff but at the end it's not 100% customizable. I mean, I didn't see anything awesome on it. In fact, my friend saw my Ray with JellySandwich and liked more than his own phone and now he wants to skin touchwiz to make it look like NXT lol.
I've read some comments about Sense, some people claim it's heavy and that's why they want to get rid of it and install AOSP over their HTC phones, but I exactly don't know if this is true 'cause I've never used one, but I can tell you that things from Sense like lockscreen and music player look good, I'd like to have them on my Ray.
In any case, I think Xperia developers should also have a Samsung or HTC device to start playing with it and try to port that stuff to Xperia, but honestly I don't see any big interest on it. I mean, currently ROMs are wonderful enough, JellySandwich, IceCream Pureness, Hybrid, etc...
Well for me I don't include those stuff cuz I choosed sony and I bought sony. That generally means I like sony.
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Hi guys,
I've owned my Live with Walkman for about 1.5 years and had a great time with it, but now it is time to move on. I am thinking of buying the Xperia Sola because I love Sony's Xperia NXT styled firmware (as opposed to the JB firmware-hate the Z1 UI), so is it worth buying the Sola-Sony is currently holding a discount so I will get it for a good price . But does it meet the following key points...
- Easily rootable?
- Install CM X on stock kernel? (X being either CM9 or CM10)
- Good android development? (many ROMs and mods?)
- Stock ICS firmware smooth AND stable? (does everything work? incl. little things like find on page in browser etc...)
- Any common problems?
Also is it proper Xperia NXT style, because when I upgraded my Live to ICS we got GB style settings menu's e.g. call settings and GB style framework and stuff-it was quite a poor effort from Sony ).
I've watched reviews on YouTube but none of them go into the detail I need, so help is much appreciated.
Thanks
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Hi guys,
I've owned my Live with Walkman for about 1.5 years and had a great time with it, but now it is time to move on. I am thinking of buying the Xperia Sola because I love Sony's Xperia NXT styled firmware (as opposed to the JB firmware-hate the Z1 UI), so is it worth buying the Sola-Sony is currently holding a discount so I will get it for a good price . But does it meet the following key points...
- Easily rootable?
- Install CM X on stock kernel? (X being either CM9 or CM10)
- Good android development? (many ROMs and mods?)
- Stock ICS firmware smooth AND stable? (does everything work? incl. little things like find on page in browser etc...)
- Any common problems?
Also is it proper Xperia NXT style, because when I upgraded my Live to ICS we got GB style settings menu's e.g. call settings and GB style framework and stuff-it was quite a poor effort from Sony ).
I've watched reviews on YouTube but none of them go into the detail I need, so help is much appreciated.
Thanks
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Hi,I highly recommend you to buy the Xperia L,if you buy the Xperia sola you will REGRET as it doesn't receive any more firmware update since 6.1.1.B.1.54 update.
It was very lag in ICS,in JB (unofficial) smooth but not good as ICS
And Xperia sola was a bit old,so go for Xperia L or Xperia M.
Regards,
Ben.
i recommended you to buy Xperia M, because if you buy xperia sola you wouldn't get a newest firmware. :good:
Ben Ling said:
Hi,I highly recommend you to buy the Xperia L,if you buy the Xperia sola you will REGRET as it doesn't receive any more firmware update since 6.1.1.B.1.54 update.
It was very lag in ICS,in JB (unofficial) smooth but not good as ICS
And Xperia sola was a bit old,so go for Xperia L or Xperia M.
Regards,
Ben.
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My brother has an Xperia M and it is good but I want something different. I assume Xperia L is even better but it is way out of my price range. I can get Xperia Sola for about £135 GBP which is significantly cheaper than the other two.
Has anyone owned a 2011 Xperia handset, if so, how is ICS on the Sola compared to the 2011 Xperia?
I'm not too fussed about firmware, ICS is good, I know in terms of updates the Sola most probably won't get any.
ShinOrochiX said:
My brother has an Xperia M and it is good but I want something different. I assume Xperia L is even better but it is way out of my price range. I can get Xperia Sola for about £135 GBP which is significantly cheaper than the other two.
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My friend is a happy user of xperia l
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ShinOrochiX said:
Hi guys,
I've owned my Live with Walkman for about 1.5 years and had a great time with it, but now it is time to move on. I am thinking of buying the Xperia Sola because I love Sony's Xperia NXT styled firmware (as opposed to the JB firmware-hate the Z1 UI), so is it worth buying the Sola-Sony is currently holding a discount so I will get it for a good price . But does it meet the following key points...
- Easily rootable?
- Install CM X on stock kernel? (X being either CM9 or CM10)
- Good android development? (many ROMs and mods?)
- Stock ICS firmware smooth AND stable? (does everything work? incl. little things like find on page in browser etc...)
- Any common problems?
Also is it proper Xperia NXT style, because when I upgraded my Live to ICS we got GB style settings menu's e.g. call settings and GB style framework and stuff-it was quite a poor effort from Sony ).
I've watched reviews on YouTube but none of them go into the detail I need, so help is much appreciated.
Thanks
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Bro I recommend to get 1gb ram phones like Xperia l or Xperia M
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ShinOrochiX said:
My brother has an Xperia M and it is good but I want something different. I assume Xperia L is even better but it is way out of my price range. I can get Xperia Sola for about £135 GBP which is significantly cheaper than the other two.
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Then wait till you got enough money and buy Xperia L.
Abd yes,Xperia L was a bit better than Xperia M.
But Xperia sola really not recommend,i'm the owner of Xperia sola,very lag.
Now it's dead due to water damage.
I will be getting Xperia SP when i have enough money.
So overall,i suggest you Xperia L.
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I don't have much money, I cannot afford the L even the M, I just don't see myself paying anything above £150 GBP for a phone-thats just me . When it comes to money I am very controlling, even if I had £500 I wouldn't buy the Xperia Z but would buy something cheaper and save the cash...
Anyway I know that to some people even a one second delay makes the phone 'laggy' (e.g. when opening an app) and for others its when the phone can't multitask quick enough.
But can the Sola easily carry out everyday tasks smoothly e.g. email, calendar, web browsing etc...
Furthermore does the phone have elements of GB e.g. GB style settings menu's such as the call settings (this was the case in the 2011 Xperia ICS).
ShinOrochiX said:
I don't have much money, I cannot afford the L even the M, I just don't see myself paying anything above £150 GBP for a phone-thats just me . When it comes to money I am very controlling, even if I had £500 I wouldn't buy the Xperia Z but would buy something cheaper and save the cash...
Anyway I know that to some people even a one second delay makes the phone 'laggy' (e.g. when opening an app) and for others its when the phone can't multitask quick enough.
But can the Sola easily carry out everyday tasks smoothly e.g. email, calendar, web browsing etc...
Furthermore does the phone have elements of GB e.g. GB style settings menu's such as the call settings (this was the case in the 2011 Xperia ICS).
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But i can tell you that Xperia sola was very lag on ICS if you install too many apps...And i always get lower than 30MB free RAM.
Or you can buy Xperia P...Better.
Thanks for the advice guys, I've decided not to buy the Sola-main reason being the performance. I suppose I will wait a month or two and keep an eye on the Xperia L to see if the price goes down. Thanks again! :victory:
Good idea is P, nice phone, good developers, nice pergormance.
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Getting a sola at this time is just a waste of money.
Dont....just dont
you will regret it...sony never offers support for their phones...and never release sources so developers can make custom roms...i learned my lesson...buy a samsung or htc or whatever
OK, first of all, Xperia Sola is not a bad phone at all, is one of the best investments I've ever did.
But we need to think...
All functions of stock works? Yeah, it does, the question is barely redundant but whatever.
Stable ROM, well, yes and no, depends on what ROM you use, I see you like the eXperience ROM, is great. But you will face some problems and crashes because is based in a un official stock JB and yeah, its kinda buggy.
Easy to root, well, yeah, Bin4ry's method is really easy, gotta search if you want.
OK, but let's think, you're going to buy a 2012 model phone, has no official support, but it's great. I'm using it for writing this post right now, nothing to complain about.
There's some phones you can look instead of the sola, the Xperia T is a good choice, it's like the reinforced version of the Sola, more space, more resolution, and a kick a** camera. And has support like CM11, no official, but it has.
The Xperia SP, oh god, almost same price and it has his goods and his bads but who cares? It's has official support and a confirmed KitKat update, better processor and it has a great design.
But this is an advice, choose whatever you like, all of them are good phones.
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you will regret it...sony never offers support for their phones...and never release sources so developers can make custom roms...i learned my lesson...buy a samsung or htc or whatever
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Wow, dude, you just don't have nothing to do, right?
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XPERIA SOLA is not good choice now , look on XPERIA M better spec at same price