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of the best phones out there no matter where i go it grabs more attention than the iphone. even thought its not as useful i can get alot done and meet more people. anyone can get an iphone few can get the athena . and i thank everyone here for their help and their roms
temokk said:
of the best phones out there no matter where i go it grabs more attention than the iphone. even thought its not as useful i can get alot done and meet more people. anyone can get an iphone few can get the athena . and i thank everyone here for their help and their roms
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You are right Brother! Where ever I go, people keep wandering wat huge phone I was using but when they saw how wonderful to have large screen view they were amaze and was asking where I got it cos you can never fine any even on the auction or ebay.
I too had iphone before switching to Athena. Iphone cant do the very basic thing i need is my office files and the pdf files. Syncrionizing my office mail is a breeze which I only read on my train ride home.
No matters how , my Athena will be the last phone cum pda cum camera cum ipod cum video player that i will ever have.
It aint heavy, its my buddy!!!!!
I second you on that guys.....Been changing device and finally found this phone and so far really fulfill my needs....The big screen is just amazzziiingggg............Not to mention the power we had in this advantage....
Ditto, ditto, ditto. I've had mine 15 months now and I don't see anything, even "coming soon", that will be able to replace it.
I, too, still get "what is that" when I pull it out in public. A few months ago I was at the AT&T store due to a problem with my wife's phone and when I pulled my phone out every employee gathered around to stare and ask questions. I'd say its pretty hard to impress a cell phone store employee - and the Athena does it.
yup the reason i posted
every where u turn everyone has now an iphone. and they think they are the sh!!!. i know some of us have seen it. but as soon as i pull out my x7500 i get questions like what is it. no matter where i go i always get asked that and sometimes not to be rude i just say "me no speak ingles". the only draw back its not a phone where everyone in ur block has. it sometimes can get u detained like last week i went here in chicago to a federal building and the security guard pulled me aside after i put everthing on the tray to go thru the metal detector and kept asking what it was i showed the moronsky for 5 minutes and he said it wasnt so i had to make a call from it just to show him.
i think it was cell phone discrimination ;-).
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yup
I like my 7501 too.
I have an input though, if only we could get our advantage that 10000% works in VGA with full compability and free of bugs. That'll be awesome.........
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I have an input though, if only we could get our advantage that 10000% works in VGA with full compability and free of bugs. That'll be awesome.........
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And w/o GPS bugs, and fully uses the graphics processor...
3 days ago,I even changed brand a new Touch Diamond for old but still working great X7500, and I dont feel sorry.
Athena is device for me,it was only matter of time when I will posses it!
drgrabez said:
3 days ago,I even changed brand a new Touch Diamond for old but still working great X7500, and I dont feel sorry.
Athena is device for me,it was only matter of time when I will posses it!
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I've got a Touch HD because it's more portable but I still use my athena for reading (which I do a lot) and office tasks. After the huge screen of the athena, any other device is a let-down, screenwise. (sighs)
I've got spare batteries for both devices and usually end up with both, but using the athena more. I can't get myself to get rid of it!
permanent!
It's true...
Which other device can sit on my desk, on my monitor stand, not take up any space, allow me to stay connected to Face book through app - msn with voice and instant pic send and also stay connected to my home PC through logmein all day
I connect to an RDP on one of our servers here and I have mouse + keyboard plugged in via USB - I dont even need a PC on my desk to work!
- and still be able to read it from more than 15 CM away.....
then let me take aGSM call when it comes in?
Then let me plug in USB gamepad and play SNES GBA? etc...
I have samsung Omnia HD as my main phone but, if I take a bag with me, Ameo comes along!
yarod, have you tried My Mobiler (www.mymobiler.com)? My Athena sits on my desk all day, too, and this app makes a 2nd mouse and keyboard unnecessary. Puts the Athena desktop right on your desktop monitor, and passes your mouse/keyboard through to the phone. Or, you can set it up so the Athena becomes an extended desktop space for your desktop, but I haven't found a good use for that yet.
I love this app.
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of the best phones out there no matter where i go it grabs more attention than the iphone. even thought its not as useful i can get alot done and meet more people. anyone can get an iphone few can get the athena . and i thank everyone here for their help and their roms
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That part there is NOT correct. It is VERY useful.
Ciao!
again im a proud owner of the athena
every where i go in chicago i have yet to see another x7500. theres a lot of iphones out there and othet phones but im the only one with a nice viewable screen and lately alot of of people have those little cheap laptops with the 8 inch screen so all i do is sit next to them and pull out my athena with keyboard and all and all they do is stare. it still gets alot of attention
Ive had a htc touch and omnia since i got my Ameo but I still use the Ameo its still the preverable K9's testicales. Though I do love the Omnia, I take it every where as its slightly more portable. and very very stable. but it aint got a 5" screen. I pull that out and always everyone asks whats that.
While this isn't a strictly dev related question, this is the best x10mp forum online, so I'm asking here
My phone is about 3 months old, and today, suddenly, my phone started to have a problem when sliding open and closed. It feels as though there is a lot of extra friction happening somewhere with the slide mechanism. This happens when both opening and closing.
Has anyone had a similar experience with their phone, or have any idea how to fix it?
I assume Sony has a one year or so hardware warranty. I'll give them a call and see what they say about it.
Thanks for any suggestions!
i dnt have any problem bt with my other frends like around all 4 of the same phones like mine have the problems its like all four fnes were different they didn feel the same some felt light sum felt heavy bt yeah i suggest u call se
maybe that's a factory defect? although I'm not sure. But yea, just go see SE you got warranty
mm. apparently their customer service in taiwan isn't so great. all you can do is leave a number and they say theyll get back to you. ill keep this thread updated in case anyone is interested.
do walk-in
the service center address isnt listed on their website. anyone know the service center address in taipei?
It's under warranty, so back up everything (apps, settings etc) to your SD card, and try to convince them to swap it in store, or they may take a looong time to fix.
http://www.cpkb.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_U20_Xperia_X10_Mini_Pro_service_manual
This might help if you want to pull it apart yourself - I've pulled mine down to replace a screen, and it was great fun, though scary at first. Just watch the little ribbon cable clamps - make sure you release them (hard to see) before you go pulling cables out.
It's such an impressive bit of harware all squeezed in like that. I hate those monster 4" smartphones - this thing is clever.
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thanks for the link. ill take my phone to the service center. i actually got through to someone on the chinese menu of the service center hotline. it only took me 10 minutes for them to give me the address of the place! haha
Well, GOTTA LOVE THIS!
so i just spent about an hour and a half typing in a complete breakdown of everything i noticed about a new TP i had been deliberating on opening due to days of reading posts about the negatives and lo and behold I decide to open it and type a HUGE report about everything that I have noticed through the few hours i've had it working and i decided to yeah post it even adding "now watch as it deletes this whole thing" so i decide to CTRL+A and copy...
DONT DO THAT! apparantly it ONLY copies the outlying information not in this box where i'm typing now and when i tried to submit it, it says i'm not logged in... well i tried logging in and ctrl V and bam it gives me the top portion of the thread page FML first MAJOR issue with the damn tab is a PEBCAK but w/e we only learn from mistakes sometimes. i will be posting a long thread about the things that i've come across with this device for any people out there who are on the fence regarding this new TP with the current serial number in the champagne style.
sadly i'd covered GPS, WIFI, the docking station issues, serial number location, installed version of AOS, and about 6 other topics that my bloodpressure currently will not let me remember bleh.
so since this thread is for anyone with any questions on a C10KAS model with the champagne style keyboard please feel free to ask below. i will be typing up a new post and saving it on my asus laptop when i get time again later and try to cover all the topics i did in the original post.
This device has NOT been upgraded past the installed 3.2.1 and wont until all queries have been addressed so as to help the majority of the users and possible future users come to decissions before irreversible changes have occurred.
sorry to sound flaming a bit but man am i ticked that i actually TRIED to save the darn thing and it still backfired, but se la vie and such is my lot in life. now i'll try to post this and hopefully find that it works
Trying Again...
Running by the [Guide] by Danny-B- i'm going to open this thread for the community to have the opportunity to ask away about the new TP i decided to finally open after watching it sit ever so quietly on my home-office desk.
Light Bleed
I noticed a very small amount of light bleed, barely any that would concern anyone really, thankfully i'd say functionally it's on par with what it should be.
Dead Pixels
None noticeable on moderate searching.
Serial Number -found?
Yep, it has the serial number registered so that's a plus.
GPS Reception
Nope. I used the QR code to get GPS Test and it shows a working compass and tilt sensor but all the readouts stayed zeroes for the 25 minutes i left it to run. I only have "Use GPS Satellites" ticked off in the location menu to test this, but also have to take into account that the test was performed indoors due to the fact that it's been snowing and raining all day so that in itself could be why the GPS function didnt work... Will retest when the weather is clear and i can get a good sky view.
*edit* crystal clear day today, not a cloud in the sky, not a gram of gps connection. i really dont need this but at least i know that the gps definitely doesn't work.
Wifi Reception
MIFI located up to 60 feet from device, since device will be in my pocket most of the time, the device should have no problems finding the signal as it's going to be only a foot or two from the tablet. Didn't notice any lag or lapse in the connectivity, it still worked Words With Friends as far as i can tell and that's the only program i will have installed aside from the QR Droid program for the testing of these issues. I did notice that the wifi signal was good but the quality of the rendering of youtube left me hoping for more, but the weather can play a huge role in this so i'm not too concerned and i can try this out moreso on a day when there's less inclement weather.
Dock/Keyboard Connection
Have to mention that the dock i purchased prior to getting the TP and i was very lucky to have gotten matching (both champagne models) as i wasnt sure what kind of tab was coming in the mail seeing as how they were pretty much recalled from every store i'd visited.
On my first attempt i was a little wary seeing as how the keyboard didnt seem to like the champ model so as i opened the box i was thinking this can still be a partial deal-breaker so we'll see.
Try #1 it pressed in and i heard a ding from the machine. no cursor opened i use the touch screen to open up the notepad and i can type, all the buttons and numbers worked but no cursor... curses! I undocked it.
Try #2 it pressed in and i gave it a little bit more oomph to see if that would help and i heard a satisfying "click" the cursor appeared it worked and i tried typing all buttons functioned properly.
Try #3 same thing, little oomph, click, cursor. so for this one, the matching champ models function properly when i give it a little extra push in until i hear a slight click.
Gyroscope
Up, Down, Left, Right, B A Start... anyway, all the directions worked and it grades in the GPS Test program down to a 2-4 degree reading so i'm fairly certain i will not have any issues with this part of the device.
Battery Conditioning
I charged it for the 8 hours, then plugged in the keyboard during the testing phase and left it plugged in until the keyboard battery read full. I have yet to test the quality of the battery life with and without the keyboard but I will keep you informed if this seems to be an issue as opposed to a non-issue
*update* well the dock is the primary source of the energy as it's supposed to be and it's been in full use browsing this forum and posting for 3 hours and it has gone down by only 25% ... i currently am HIGHLY impressed with the battery life.
Haptic Feedback
I got a mallard. Yes, i was thinking how could this thing sound like a duck but lo and behold the first time i turned it on i heard an audible "quack" to put it bluntly. I dont see this bothering me in the long run unless the vibration against the case's rear housing causes an issue with other parts, though the only time that i've noticed any haptic vibration is when powering it on. I dont notice any when typing on the screen or making selections so that may be switched off in the settings, i honestly havent played with any of the settings yet since i have only tried getting through the [GUIDE] piece by piece trying out things.
Firmware Updates
I will not be updating this until any questions members have, have died out. I wanted to create this thread so that everyone has the chance to ask questions about the Champagne model out of the box that runs 3.2.1. I do plan on updating to ICS in the near future but I also wanted people to get an idea of what this unit did straight-away. This model's serial is the C10KAS and came from Texas through an Office Depot "gmill" warehouse... an "other than the normal" warehouse per the store manager... who i had to finesse to get her to really try to locate one of these guys fyi.
Summary
I feel that i touched on a few more notes when i originally typed in this thread, but for the life of me i can't remember anything else to put in here.
The tablet is very responsive, Words with Friends gets a slight lag from time to time, but i'm not too worried about any gaming issues since this will be a work-related device and gaming is just a bonus if done at all.
I did notice that there is a minor lag when typing here in this box on the tab but i think that is to be expected as i noticed similar on my RAZR MAXX, Galaxy Nexus, and 4s.
Please, feel free to ask any questions or make any comments regarding this post. I want it to be as informative as possible to any people who have questions about a new TP before they are pretty much impossible to get.
interesting new development with internet
ok so here's a strange new development i've just noticed...
ANY link i click on, even to get to a new page of threads or to click reply...
ALL of them suddenly switched from opening within the original tab and moving on to the new page to now opening a separate tab on their own. i haven't done anything new with the tab, this all started just while accessing these forums on their own. i've tried a long press on them and select OPEN instead of OPEN IN NEW TAB, but everything keeps opening in new tabs, now i'm full of tabs on my screen.
any ideas on this one? strange how it would just stop working the way it was and start working this way all on it's own while just browsing this site. idk, i'm open to any suggestions.
*update* after clearing the cache and cookies it seems to have fixed this issue. nothing opens in new tabs now... im guessing it can only store so much before it forces you to new tab everything. just an fyi to everyone
Must.... try... to... resist.... ....Too .....STRONG.....!!!!
Well at least I have to say there it is now a posted answer for everyone asking how the new primes are running they are running the same. I have the C10k******* and its running about the same if not worse than my old Gray model, that was sent back about a month ago, because of the same issues. They aint going to get any better until Asucks fixes them, bottom line. Yeah there might be some that run perfect but you are the "Lucky Few" believe that. Us guys with the "this don't work models, were just screwed". well not actually I'm sending mine back and trying again. Or you can or deal with that issue that your prime has.
Mine has slight light bleed and poor WiFi, should I keep it? Still debating I got 14 days. But like I said in another post these will probably be easy refurbs to pick up soon. Asus probably has a full warehouse full of returned units, I believe my last unit I bought brand new sealed in box was a returned unit, I don't believe they are allowed to do this but I think they do in MY opinion. I don't think they are going to let a tablet that looks brand spanking new with just a WiFi issue sit there. lose $100-200 selling it as refurbished.
I believe they are boxing them back out and selling them as new. You wouldn't be able to tell, would you? All they got to do is clean it up real nice restore it put in new box, shrink wrap it again and, there are 100 brand new ones shipping to Best Buy as new. Then maybe they will get lucky and the person really doesn't know much about it, when they get it and they like it some much, it looks stunning, they can get a good signal in their bedroom, so they keep it. I'm telling you they are doing shady ****. Look at how they are treating us, a big F-U.
I know people who are giving it right back to them buying every model they find at the store if it doesn't work PERFECT. They are taking it back I know people that are on model 6 or 7 at least 5 or 6 people.
Where are all their refurbs selling at? I bet their return pile looks like a junkyard, That aint even funny for real. Asucks used to be a good company. They don't hold up to their standards anymore.
ASUS
JUST IN CASE SOMEONE FROM ASUCKS COMES BY, I IMAGINE THEY DO, WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS TABLET.
I THINK SOMEONE LIKE TEGRA OR GOOGLE ANDROID SHOULD BE ON THEIR ASS FOR THIS, REALLY TEGRA SHOULD BE MAD AS HELL.
JUST FIX THE PRIMES DO WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING, ITS THE BEST OPTION. IF NOT YOUR JUNKYARD IS GOING TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. AND DON'T BE SELLING ME SOMEONE ELSE'S USED SH*T, AS BRAND NEW.
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ASUS
JUST IN CASE SOMEONE FROM ASUCKS COMES BY, I IMAGINE THEY DO, WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS TABLET.
I THINK SOMEONE LIKE TEGRA OR GOOGLE ANDROID SHOULD BE ON THEIR ASS FOR THIS, REALLY TEGRA SHOULD BE MAD AS HELL.
JUST FIX THE PRIMES DO WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING, ITS THE BEST OPTION. IF NOT YOUR JUNKYARD IS GOING TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. AND DON'T BE SELLING ME SOMEONE ELSE'S USED SH*T, AS BRAND NEW.
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Erm, it's nVidia (or tegra as you seem to want to call them) that are providing the code that is f#cking up the Prime. Just thought you should know.
After much deliberation I finally returned my DNA today, but not for the reasons many of you might suspect. I have unlimited data, and I'm a power user and run off pure 4g all day. I didnt care about the sd card since I rely on google music/netflix/youtube/PlayOn for all my entertainment. Coming from the thunderbolt the DNA's battery life was a breath of fresh air. I would keep the DNA mounted in a tablet stand next to my desk all day running at full bright, surfing constantly. During lunch I'd watch a solid hour of netflix. I stream slacker to and from work. I always keep gps/bluetooth on and have multiple sync services running such as gmail, twitter, etc. By the time I get home my phone usually has 25% life, and thats without any charging. This is a huge win for me since the thunderbolt requires constant charging.
However the problems for me were the lack of kickstand (i dont like cellphone cases and keep mine naked at all times), and the lack of car docking ability. I kept forgetting to bring my tablet stand with me during lunch and I'd have to watch movies with the damn thing flat on the table. Without Qi car docks I have to stick my phone in the cupholder, where I can only see about half of the screen and have to let it bounce and bang around while I drive.
Finally there was the lack of openness. Verizon really boned us on the locked bootloader, and it seems like all the rooting material out there has about a 50% chance of bricking your device, not a risk I'm willing to take. So I fired my TB back up and felt right at home. Ad-blocking, wifi tether, customized quick settings, and a safe s-off method. I was at home again. The DNA was a great phone, but it wasnt enough of a TB killer to warrant the upgrade. The TB is still fine in my books and I plan to get some more good life out of it. I must say I got REALLY addicted to using the LG wireless charging pad, so I decided to buy a couple of OEM thunderbolt docks for my home/office desks so that I can quickly dock/undock in a similar fashion to the LG pad. Plus my phone will now charge in kickstand mode
......waiting for SGS4 now hehehe..
50% Chance? I'm wondering where in the world you came up with that info. Seems to me you are just uncomfortable with what is involved to unlock. And that's the reason you returned it.
Or we could go with the car/cup holder theory and docking..... but that's more of a simple fix......
If you know how to use adb and the sdk-tools, which you should if you plan to do any kind of modding, then you should have no problem unlocking the bootloader. That's the only concern that might have been worth returning it for. Otherwise its a great phone.
Understandable. U need to enjoy what u purchased. U don't like it, u return it. I wouldn't keep something I don't like either. I did the same thing with the Droid Eris and got the Google Nexus instead.
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If you skim through the unlocking threads there are numerous complaints about people bricking their devices. I dont know what their experience levels are, but this is far above the norm for any new device. Seems to me the dev's released their tools a little too prematurely. I'm sure it will get better in time, to the point of a one-click which is what everyone always wants. But I paid full retail for this device, and there's no way I was risking a brick because my computer hiccup'd during an adb push or because I hit a wrong button and rebooted twice or some other cardinal sin and be completely screwed. I'm all for flashing the hell out of my phones so long as there's a failsafe. But bricking? I dont think so. Like I said, it just needs time to mature.
The car dock stuff is very true however. I hate ugly gaudy clunky looking universal mounts, with their 3 or more brackets required to grip the phone. Plus the dna has that difficult to remove rubber cover on the port that I'm sure will fall off from repeated use. In the morning before going to work I dont have time to manhandle a car mount. I want to just pop the phone in and go, like I could with my TB mount. But with no sign of Qi car chargers on the horizon, and the actual written specs for the designs only released in october, it could be quite some time before we see them, if at all. I'm sure there's like 0 demand for Qi car chargers at the moment so it's a tough sell to bring to market.
I probably wont be looking at any phones at all for a very long time, even the SGS4 that I hinted at, because I'm sure they'll all suffer the same shortcomings. No OEM docks and no Qi car chargers.
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If you skim through the unlocking threads there are numerous complaints about people bricking their devices. I dont know what their experience levels are, but this is far above the norm for any new device. Seems to me the dev's released their tools a little too prematurely. I'm sure it will get better in time, to the point of a one-click which is what everyone always wants. But I paid full retail for this device, and there's no way I was risking a brick because my computer hiccup'd during an adb push or because I hit a wrong button and rebooted twice or some other cardinal sin and be completely screwed. I'm all for flashing the hell out of my phones so long as there's a failsafe. But bricking? I dont think so. Like I said, it just needs time to mature.
The car dock stuff is very true however. I hate ugly gaudy clunky looking universal mounts, with their 3 or more brackets required to grip the phone. Plus the dna has that difficult to remove rubber cover on the port that I'm sure will fall off from repeated use. In the morning before going to work I dont have time to manhandle a car mount. I want to just pop the phone in and go, like I could with my TB mount. But with no sign of Qi car chargers on the horizon, and the actual written specs for the designs only released in october, it could be quite some time before we see them, if at all. I'm sure there's like 0 demand for Qi car chargers at the moment so it's a tough sell to bring to market.
I probably wont be looking at any phones at all for a very long time, even the SGS4 that I hinted at, because I'm sure they'll all suffer the same shortcomings. No OEM docks and no Qi car chargers.
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I'm in no way trying to change your mind, as I just came from a Rezound with a dock at work, at home, and car mount/dock and I definitely enjoyed them.
However in the wireless charging thread in the accessories section, there was a post by a iBOLT guy stating that they were working on a Qi car mount/dock. Just a heads up. :thumbup:
Here's a link to his post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34620722
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I'm sorry, I can't help myself, but the DNA isn't a TB killer? Are you kidding?
LOL, EVERY high-end phone that has come out since the TB was a TB killer.
(....my $.02 and, of course YMMV)
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I'm sorry, I can't help myself, but the DNA isn't a TB killer? Are you kidding?
LOL, EVERY high-end phone that has come out since the TB was a TB killer.
(....my $.02 and, of course YMMV)
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I completely agree with the OP. I had a TB (with extended battery), and I preferred using it over the S3, MAXX HD, and DNA. None of those phones were worthy of an upgrade to the TB, IMO.
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I completely agree with the OP. I had a TB (with extended battery), and I preferred using it over the S3, MAXX HD, and DNA. None of those phones were worthy of an upgrade to the TB, IMO.
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Uh... Why are you still here then?
Idk why these threads are made but hey why not okay the not worth the upgrade from the tb made me laugh so hard my gf hit me cause I woke her .. gpu ,cpu screen reactiveness I mean it blows most phones away wait no all phones next to the nexus 4 in most areas DNA was better or ties even rendering a much higher resolution . Unless you wait for the s4 by your standard why get a glass on glass device u need to handle with kid gloves .... But the rooting method isn't there a one click now , s off I'm sure will come but if u absolutely need to flash now u can get the 8 gig no expadable mem or wait the 6-8 weeks in the play store for the 16 gig :banghead:
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Bye!
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After much deliberation I finally returned my DNA today, but not for the reasons many of you might suspect. I have unlimited data, and I'm a power user and run off pure 4g all day. I didnt care about the sd card since I rely on google music/netflix/youtube/PlayOn for all my entertainment. Coming from the thunderbolt the DNA's battery life was a breath of fresh air. I would keep the DNA mounted in a tablet stand next to my desk all day running at full bright, surfing constantly. During lunch I'd watch a solid hour of netflix. I stream slacker to and from work. I always keep gps/bluetooth on and have multiple sync services running such as gmail, twitter, etc. By the time I get home my phone usually has 25% life, and thats without any charging. This is a huge win for me since the thunderbolt requires constant charging.
However the problems for me were the lack of kickstand (i dont like cellphone cases and keep mine naked at all times), and the lack of car docking ability. I kept forgetting to bring my tablet stand with me during lunch and I'd have to watch movies with the damn thing flat on the table. Without Qi car docks I have to stick my phone in the cupholder, where I can only see about half of the screen and have to let it bounce and bang around while I drive.
Finally there was the lack of openness. Verizon really boned us on the locked bootloader, and it seems like all the rooting material out there has about a 50% chance of bricking your device, not a risk I'm willing to take. So I fired my TB back up and felt right at home. Ad-blocking, wifi tether, customized quick settings, and a safe s-off method. I was at home again. The DNA was a great phone, but it wasnt enough of a TB killer to warrant the upgrade. The TB is still fine in my books and I plan to get some more good life out of it. I must say I got REALLY addicted to using the LG wireless charging pad, so I decided to buy a couple of OEM thunderbolt docks for my home/office desks so that I can quickly dock/undock in a similar fashion to the LG pad. Plus my phone will now charge in kickstand mode
......waiting for SGS4 now hehehe..
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You're gonna do what you're gonna do, and it's important to be happy with your device. But seriously, these are really stupid reasons for returning a device. Lack of a kickstand? Seriously? Prop it up against a book like everyone else does. Or get a case with a kickstand. Or use a cassette tape box. Or just hold it up yourself. There are many exceedingly easy solutions to this problem that don't make you look like the laziest person on the planet. Car docks are coming; you can't expect a brand new device only offered on one carrier to have a plethora of third-party support right out of the gate.
There is most certainly not a 50% chance of bricking your device. There's an 100% chance of bricking it if you do something stupid. If you follow directions, your risk is very slim. And again, the device has been out for less than a month. Stop being so damn impatient and let the devs work. The fact that we already have some roms trickling out is quite impressive in my book. They'll have a foolproof method out before you know it.
Honestly, after seeing thread after thread about how "awful" the battery supposedly is and how the lack of an SD slot is "inexcusable" (despite the fact that Google and Apple have omitted this for years now), this thread is sort of refreshing - it's nice having new, even less legitimate complaints to pick apart.
anti09 said:
You're gonna do what you're gonna do, and it's important to be happy with your device. But seriously, these are really stupid reasons for returning a device. Lack of a kickstand? Seriously? Prop it up against a book like everyone else does. Or get a case with a kickstand. Or use a cassette tape box. Or just hold it up yourself. There are many exceedingly easy solutions to this problem that don't make you look like the laziest person on the planet. Car docks are coming; you can't expect a brand new device only offered on one carrier to have a plethora of third-party support right out of the gate.
There is most certainly not a 50% chance of bricking your device. There's an 100% chance of bricking it if you do something stupid. If you follow directions, your risk is very slim. And again, the device has been out for less than a month. Stop being so damn impatient and let the devs work. The fact that we already have some roms trickling out is quite impressive in my book. They'll have a foolproof method out before you know it.
Honestly, after seeing thread after thread about how "awful" the battery supposedly is and how the lack of an SD slot is "inexcusable" (despite the fact that Google and Apple have omitted this for years now), this thread is sort of refreshing - it's nice having new, even less legitimate complaints to pick apart.
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angry much? Much rather have someone return a device that doesn't make them happy, than to sit on here everyday and complain about a device's perceived shortcomings.
And my wife still rocks the Tbolt and has no problems with it. It works for her (at least until spring when its upgrade time).
RunNgun42 said:
After much deliberation I finally returned my DNA today, but not for the reasons many of you might suspect. I have unlimited data, and I'm a power user and run off pure 4g all day. I didnt care about the sd card since I rely on google music/netflix/youtube/PlayOn for all my entertainment. Coming from the thunderbolt the DNA's battery life was a breath of fresh air. I would keep the DNA mounted in a tablet stand next to my desk all day running at full bright, surfing constantly. During lunch I'd watch a solid hour of netflix. I stream slacker to and from work. I always keep gps/bluetooth on and have multiple sync services running such as gmail, twitter, etc. By the time I get home my phone usually has 25% life, and thats without any charging. This is a huge win for me since the thunderbolt requires constant charging.
However the problems for me were the lack of kickstand (i dont like cellphone cases and keep mine naked at all times), and the lack of car docking ability. I kept forgetting to bring my tablet stand with me during lunch and I'd have to watch movies with the damn thing flat on the table. Without Qi car docks I have to stick my phone in the cupholder, where I can only see about half of the screen and have to let it bounce and bang around while I drive.
Finally there was the lack of openness. Verizon really boned us on the locked bootloader, and it seems like all the rooting material out there has about a 50% chance of bricking your device, not a risk I'm willing to take. So I fired my TB back up and felt right at home. Ad-blocking, wifi tether, customized quick settings, and a safe s-off method. I was at home again. The DNA was a great phone, but it wasnt enough of a TB killer to warrant the upgrade. The TB is still fine in my books and I plan to get some more good life out of it. I must say I got REALLY addicted to using the LG wireless charging pad, so I decided to buy a couple of OEM thunderbolt docks for my home/office desks so that I can quickly dock/undock in a similar fashion to the LG pad. Plus my phone will now charge in kickstand mode
......waiting for SGS4 now hehehe..
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While everyone is entitled to their opinions I have to disagree. I came from a Thunderbolt as well. While I do miss the kickstand, the Thunderbolt is a single core battery hog that has no official support beyond Gingerbread. The Liquid ICS was great but had a lot of bugs that will never get fixed. Data drops, garbled text, blank webpages... I couldn't ever go back from this quad-core Jelly Bean beast.
I'll agree that the difficulty of getting s-off on this phone is a major bummer right now, but I can live with it. Rooting it isn't really risky or that difficult. In fact, it's easier to root the DNA that it was my Thunderbolt what I first did it. I'm confident the great devs on here will crack it in time.
Threads like these make me wish one click root/unlocks were never released. Having to actually understand what you are doing will weed out the real power users from the ones who think they need to root because they can't live in a locked down environment.
I don't know why we are all trying to point out things that the OP listed as flawed, it's his $$ and his decision.
drumz0rz said:
While everyone is entitled to their opinions I have to disagree. I came from a Thunderbolt as well. While I do miss the kickstand, the Thunderbolt is a single core battery hog that has no official support beyond Gingerbread. The Liquid ICS was great but had a lot of bugs that will never get fixed. Data drops, garbled text, blank webpages... I couldn't ever go back from this quad-core Jelly Bean beast.
I'll agree that the difficulty of getting s-off on this phone is a major bummer right now, but I can live with it. Rooting it isn't really risky or that difficult. In fact, it's easier to root the DNA that it was my Thunderbolt what I first did it. I'm confident the great devs on here will crack it in time.
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I too came from the Thunderbolt and your right the DNA is a OMG upgrade. And yes I miss the kickstand.
The OP can return his/her phone for whatever reasons he or she deems reasonable. I hope your next phone is the phone of your dreams. Would I return my DNA for the same reasons? Not a chance in heaven or hades. My old phone was a Samsung Captivate on AT&T. My new DNA takes my old Captivate in the back beats it up beyond all repair. The DNA is a MAJOR upgrade. Its not a prefect phone, but man is it awesome.
this thread is about as useless as my nipples
RunNgun42 said:
If you skim through the unlocking threads there are numerous complaints about people bricking their devices. I dont know what their experience levels are, but this is far above the norm for any new device. Seems to me the dev's released their tools a little too prematurely. I'm sure it will get better in time, to the point of a one-click which is what everyone always wants. But I paid full retail for this device, and there's no way I was risking a brick because my computer hiccup'd during an adb push or because I hit a wrong button and rebooted twice or some other cardinal sin and be completely screwed. I'm all for flashing the hell out of my phones so long as there's a failsafe. But bricking? I dont think so. Like I said, it just needs time to mature.
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This part is not opion, and I think you're wayyy off the mark. If you think the DNA has more bricked device threads, you are very confused my friend. My S3 has full unlock capability, yet has many many many many many more brick threads than you guys do. Every device I have owned had more than the DNA.
All devices will have multitudes of brick threads, and many many more. People are lazy, want one-clicks, don't wanna understand what they're doing, and brick their devices. Its a fact of nature. Not "far from the norm" at all.
Its his personal opinion jeez, let him breath. We all spend money for retarded reasons on newer phones so we can break them in a sense. If the guy is specific on where hos money is being thrown he has every bit of entitlement to do so. Is the post necessary? No but if everyone had an issue with it they should just not post and bring it back to the top. If you have something to add then do so respectfully. Were all grown ups here, c'mon guys.
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I'll be looking for something to bridge the gap between my phone and desktop when I sell my laptop for about $550, and I see them going for that much brand new and unlocked on Amazon. Don't want to spend more than $300, otherwise I feel I might as well keep my laptop and save myself the hassle. The exception would be the upcoming Acer 8" Windows tablet because it'd be a full version of Windows that's very portable and with good battery life for about $400.
Anyway, hardware-wise it looks spectacular - rear camera that's actually worthwhile, great speakers (including a subwoofer), feels good to hold, has accurate pen input available, includes data capabilities (which I believe would also work on T-Mobile LTE), etc. Only thing that sucks is that it's stuck on Honeycomb, at least for now. Which, honestly, I don't really mind it being stuck on Honeycomb, if it works and is good hardware-wise - I'm kinda past the mentality of "needing" the newest version of Android on my device.
Is there anything wrong with it, or anything to consider when buying it? I know there's also the Asus Memo Pad 10" for only $30 more with newest Android and a faster processor, but I'm wondering specifically about the Jetstream for Sense, the build quality, and data capabilities.
its great for the first 5 minutes.
then the lag begins..honeycomb is slowing this thing alot.
if can wait, do so. there's a developer working on a better kernel, one that should put all those issues away. can't tell how long it'll take, because its already been around 3 months. wait a month more and see if something changed..
guru_shastri said:
its great for the first 5 minutes.
then the lag begins..honeycomb is slowing this thing alot.
if can wait, do so. there's a developer working on a better kernel, one that should put all those issues away. can't tell how long it'll take, because its already been around 3 months. wait a month more and see if something changed..
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Do none of the current ROMs alleviate these lag issues? Just wondering.
Hardly.
Honeycomb isn't fit to work with dual core, only with a proper kernel the device will work properly
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Oh yeah !!!! worth every penny of it, my other friend is thinking hard how to get rid of his NEW Tab_2 10.1" to get this one, Sense is so much better Touchwiz.
I have given mine to my sis, without a Jetstream now, ohhhhh it's so hard without it now..... today went to another shop to buy it, but new stock was late arriving, I left. May be go again tomorrow or Friday.
So I bit the bullet and bought one last night...I don't know if I was extremely unlucky, but the one I bought labeled as new was clearly not:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009HNVPUK/
I bought it from Masterdeals with express shipping, got it today...right off the bat, the seal was clearly broken and covered with another smaller seal. I didn't get a startup/tutorial screen on boot, or even the default homescreen layout, and I'm 100% sure I've never seen an Android device that had the "Unknown Sources" checkbox ticked by default. And to make matters worse, it came preloaded with what I'm pretty sure are two adware/spam/etc. apps installed to system (AIRPUSH EULA and FREE APPS - the former of which doesn't even appear in the app drawer and starts itself in the background).
Thankfully I'm able to get a refund for the shipping too, but it looks like I'm going to have to restrict myself to buying a legitimately used one off eBay if I want one.
I see, take it easy, you'll get what you want next round.