Hi,
I heard some rumours that sony will commercialise an upgraded version of the current XS (lt29i) with a Snapdragon Kraith S4 (Quad core) in June!
French source http://www.phonandroid.com/xperia-s-sony-processeur-qualcomm-snapdragon-s4.html
What do you think ?
That is the Xperia Arc successor not upgraded Xperia S.
S4 is a dual core CPU instead of quad core
God I hope not, that's a slap in the face to all early adopters.
However it's more likely they will use this chipset in the Hayabusa model supposedly coming in June/July.
Or maybe it won't be released in June.
Or maybe it's a larger phone.
Or maybe maybe... we'll have to wait and see
Larger phone? Yes its a 4.6 inch device.
june is when it will release.
Also s4 is a cortex a15 dual.core chip, so its faster than quad core nvidia tegra 3 and the samsung exynos quad core a9 chip to be used in gs3
4.6" screen? where did you see that?
Hope this gonna be exactly the same way as the Xperia S
but with better processor, lte, and ics buttons instead of these three little dots
and of course, dockable
Hayabusa only has ics on screen buttons. No hardware buttons.
Also as I mentioned earlier, hayabusa will be nothing like the xperia s. Its the design successor to the xperia arc
And yes it does feature LTE
With resolution of 720 x 1196 no the full 1080 HD so I assume it would have 4.2 inch display as the Sony Xperia S with a 4.3 inch display and the ion 4.55 inch display wiht both has a bigger resolution of 720 x 1280 and the full 1080HD.
So looking at the reolution size it definitely look to be around 4.2 inch because why would the samrtphone be 4.6 inch when the resolution is smaller than than the S and ion version.
Darkfunnyguy said:
With resolution of 720 x 1196 no the full 1080 HD so I assume it would have 4.2 inch display as the Sony Xperia S with a 4.3 inch display and the ion 4.55 inch display wiht both has a bigger resolution of 720 x 1280 and the full 1080HD.
So looking at the reolution size it definitely look to be around 4.2 inch because why would the samrtphone be 4.6 inch when the resolution is smaller than than the S and ion version.
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They left vertical room in the resolution to support the on screen ICS buttons like the Galaxy Nexus i'm guessing, the screen size could be any inch.
-smc
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SEFanX10i said:
Hayabusa only has ics on screen buttons. No hardware buttons.
Also as I mentioned earlier, hayabusa will be nothing like the xperia s. Its the design successor to the xperia arc
And yes it does feature LTE
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Mate,
Where did u get this info from? I can't find any photos on it or specs.
Always loved the design of the Arc, would have had one if they gave it dual cores which is my min and max requirements for a mobile phone.
-smc
SEFanX10i said:
Hayabusa only has ics on screen buttons. No hardware buttons.
Also as I mentioned earlier, hayabusa will be nothing like the xperia s. Its the design successor to the xperia arc
And yes it does feature LTE
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Hayabusa won't have LTE, but Mint will, both are the same device, but different screen size
unknown13x said:
Hayabusa won't have LTE, but Mint will, both are the same device, but different screen size
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How do you know that ?
it would be nice for the people who say things about this phone to have a source so they dont look like they are talking out of their ass lol. the reason i didnt get the xperia s is because the hardware isnt a upgrade from the amaze (what i have currently). if sony makes a phone with the s4 id upgrade in a heartbeat though
stratax said:
it would be nice for the people who say things about this phone to have a source so they dont look like they are talking out of their ass lol. the reason i didnt get the xperia s is because the hardware isnt a upgrade from the amaze (what i have currently). if sony makes a phone with the s4 id upgrade in a heartbeat though
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Sorry, I guess I'm not a reliable source
unknown13x said:
Hayabusa won't have LTE, but Mint will, both are the same device, but different screen size
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... aluminum unibody?
Yea, so...
Wheres these links on the body and definite specs of the phone?
I see "I heard, I heard" but no links I wanna see the look of this device which unknown13x somehow discovered?
There's also an "I heard, I heard" little rumor that the Hayabusa is the new Play, which also can't be dismissed due to well...lack of information .
http://www.gadgetcross.com/sony-ericsson-hayabusa-lt29i-display-resolution/
are we even Sure its Android ?
Let's talk logic here, the Vita just went on retail, how much impact would it be if they were to release the PLAY2 this year? Quite alot actually, so we can take that out the question.
Hayabusa is arc's successor, though the looks is 100% Sony product (From the design spin-off, they drastically changed the brand signature to a Sony-scent device). S4 will be on it for sure. No, no aluminum body like the P.
Sad news is, these devices may get delayed as the NXT series are selling like hot cakes at the moment. Who knows, might get canceled?
It's perfectly logical
The Vita is the PSP successor.
The Play2 (or Hayabusa ) will be the Play successor
Either way it's all speculation, and it may indeed not even get released. Or hell, it may even be a tablet! no one knows, its mostly rumors at the moment anyways.
edit: Or even one of the floating touch line!
But the most important question....can it brew a good cup of coffee and do my laundry?
Noooooo, I hope they don't get cancelled!
I was really hoping for an aluminum unibody on the hayabusa or mint as one of those phones will be my upgrade from my x10a. Hopefully one of them will at least have a white magic display and some other cool goodies as they'll likely have some stiff competition from Apple and Samsung when they launch.
One thing that does come to mind is that the new company Japan Display Inc will be coming online soon, so I imagine whatever screens Sony will use in their future phones will come from there. Maybe we will finally see Sony OLED tech in action on a smartphone?
Related
I went to buy Galaxy Note today..I watched
Youtube videos and though it would fit on my
hands.. I saw it n
OMG!! its huge..Doesn't even fit on my pocket..
My friend laughed like hell when I tried to
imitate a phone call scenario.. Its was
awkward .
The shopkeeper also said its too big .
Then he showed me the Sony Xperia S..
Gosh the screen was awesome..
I check out the Galaxy S2 too..
I liked the WVGA screen of the S2 but its
nowhere near Xperia S.
But the viewing angle was really bad on the
Xperia S.
N I didn't like the design too..Too much extra
space at the bottom. N 10mm thick too..
S2 was thin n comfortable to hold..
What I liked about Xperia S
-720p screen(but viewing angle is so bad)
-NFC tag
-Free standard hdmi cable
- 12 mp camera( i checked it n its awesome)
-PS store
-TV launcher
What I don't like about Xperia S
-Design
-Capacitative button is not responsive
-CPU n GPU is weaker than S2( according to
most techsites)
-Too thick..
Is the galaxy S2 screen resolution really that bad compared to Xperia S.. ??
I have a Galaxy S now n I want to upgrade screen wise as well
WVGA vs 720p..
Please help me choose.
Xperia S cpu/gpu is very old for a phone releasing now...
When Snapdragon 4 is out, sony is now with a snapdragon 3
And their is not much development for xperia S....(only one custom kernel and no cm7/9 yet)
You are from india so you will get i9100G(so you can't flash any roms here and i9100G have a different processor and GPU from i9100 international model)
Best choice is HTC one x which is much better than both xperia s and sgs2
the choice is obvious as long as Sony comes in the near future with the ICS upgrade. Just by comparing the two and taking in consideration just the resolution and overall hardware capabilities i'd go with the xperias. The S2 is still rocking, but let's not forget, a year has passed and there are other devices out there with better hardware.
And about the Note, I'd trade my S2 at any time for that beast of a screen, I've also played with it yesterday in an orange shop and I give you credit, it's big, but that's what the majority said about the S2 .
The resolution is important, for today's standards WVGA is obsolete, 720p is the standard now with a minimum of 4.7'' diagonal. I'd advise you to wait a little bit 'till the S3 is launched, who knows, maybe it will knock down the competition, or not . Also the HTC One X is an option, have you considered it?
Kristion said:
the choice is obvious as long as Sony comes in the near future with the ICS upgrade. Just by comparing the two and taking in consideration just the resolution and overall hardware capabilities i'd go with the xperias. The S2 is still rocking, but let's not forget, a year has passed and there are other devices out there with better hardware.
And about the Note, I'd trade my S2 at any time for that beast of a screen, I've also played with it yesterday in an orange shop and I give you credit, it's big, but that's what the majority said about the S2 .
The resolution is important, for today's standards WVGA is obsolete, 720p is the standard now with a minimum of 4.7'' diagonal. I'd advise you to wait a little bit 'till the S3 is launched, who knows, maybe it will knock down the competition, or not . Also the HTC One X is an option, have you considered it?
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No I didn't consider the One X..
HTC very poor at availability in India. Its available in the metro cities but not in Shillong, India.
So you think I should get the Xperia then.??
My friend also said Xperia is better for him if he had to choose one.
Jackmax32 said:
No I didn't consider the One X..
HTC very poor at availability in India. Its available in the metro cities but not in Shillong, India.
So you think I should get the Xperia then.??
My friend also said Xperia is better for him if he had to choose one.
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Xperia is not better...
One x or you are wasting your money..
Xperia S is already a year old by its CPU/GPU In india for galaxy s2 you will get i9100G(No roms to flash here and weaker CPU/GPU then i9100 the international model)
HTC one x is the only best option..
sahibunlimited said:
Xperia is not better...
One x or you are wasting your money..
Xperia S is already a year old by its CPU/GPU In india for galaxy s2 you will get i9100G(No roms to flash here and weaker CPU/GPU then i9100 the international model)
HTC one x is the only best option..
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I heard about the G model too..
Its really sad.. Samsung is fooling the Indian customers..
Well then I better buy the ONE X if I am gonna shell out 30K+ ..
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Its more than 35K @@
Budget is below Rs 33000
xperia s has no front camera too
Jackmax32 said:
I heard about the G model too..
Its really sad.. Samsung is fooling the Indian customers..
Well then I better buy the ONE X if I am gonna shell out 30K+ ..
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Budget is below Rs 33000
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Come on man
Adding 2k you will get 5 times better phone...
BTW one x is tegra 3 quad core and much better development
I bought my s2 in India and it's I9100 not I9100G.
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its better to grab a S2 than experia their late for upgrade also hardware i came from ARC ,i love my S2
Jackmax32 said:
I went to buy Galaxy Note today..I watched
Youtube videos and though it would fit on my
hands.. I saw it n
OMG!! its huge..Doesn't even fit on my pocket..
My friend laughed like hell when I tried to
imitate a phone call scenario.. Its was
awkward .
The shopkeeper also said its too big .
Then he showed me the Sony Xperia S..
Gosh the screen was awesome..
I check out the Galaxy S2 too..
I liked the WVGA screen of the S2 but its
nowhere near Xperia S.
But the viewing angle was really bad on the
Xperia S.
N I didn't like the design too..Too much extra
space at the bottom. N 10mm thick too..
S2 was thin n comfortable to hold..
What I liked about Xperia S
-720p screen(but viewing angle is so bad)
-NFC tag
-Free standard hdmi cable
- 12 mp camera( i checked it n its awesome)
-PS store
-TV launcher
What I don't like about Xperia S
-Design
-Capacitative button is not responsive
-CPU n GPU is weaker than S2( according to
most techsites)
-Too thick..
Does the galaxy S2 screen resolution really that bad compared to Xperia S.. ??
I have a Galaxy S now n I want to upgrade screen wise as well
WVGA vs 720p..
Please help me choose.
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Maybe this will help you in your choice: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s_vs_samsung_galaxy_s_ii-review-734.php
_Raziel666 said:
Maybe this will help you in your choice: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s_vs_samsung_galaxy_s_ii-review-734.php
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Dafaq?
Sony Xperia S over Samsung Galaxy S II:
4.3" 720p screen (342ppi) over 4.3" WVGA screen (217ppi)
12MP still camera over 8MP
1.5GHz Scorpion CPU over 1.2GHz Cortex-A9 CPU
Standard microHDMI port over MHL port (requires adapter for HDMI out)
GLONASS support in addition to A-GPS
All units have NFC over optional support in the S II
1750mAh battery over 1650mAh
3D sweep panorama and Multi Angle modes
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Scorpion 1.5 ghz is no where near exynos 1.2 in sgs2
Megapixel doesn't count(through snapshot from dep sleep feature is cool in xperia s)
That 3D thing is just placebo
Just stay away from xperias have experienced xperia phone in past and its having pathetic software support and development...
and also stay away from i9100G
@OP if you really want the best phone currently then go for one x
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Bwahhahhahaa
2011 Xperia phones got ics before xperia S
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...software-upgrade-for-2011-xperia-smartphones/
Look I respect everyone's opninion here but most of you are talking ****. I've had both phones and now I have the s2.
It's a ****ty phone seriously... you pay that much money for a phone with this low resolution... lets say the owner wont flash custom rom, than the xperia s is the better choice.
Why ? Its old what are you.sayin bla bla bla...
Specs aren't everything. If you chose your phone specs based than you're not wise. The software of the xperia S is far more complete and bugfree than that of samsung. It is despite having the older cpu much much faster in everyday use.
Sony is actually one of the best companies in terms of software updates... don't say the s isn't good because you had an arc ... what is that ?!
The galaxy s2 is useless as a smartphone becaus of the super amoled plus screen. It uses maybe double or more power than a normal screen when displaying white colors. And most webpages are white...
Also the one x is beautiful but it isn't the best becaus it has a quadcore cpu. It is.sometimes slow i've used it. Also the tegra 3 sucks power like hell. It is a cpu based on the arm a9 architecture wich is like used in the snapdragon s1 series.
Use both the one x and one s and you'll see despite the fact that the one s is only dual core the snapdragon s4 is waaay faster. This because it uses a proper cortex a15 architecture that is actually designed to make multicore cpu's of it...
The quadcore nvidia tegra 3 isn't more than.a marketing gimmick. It's nothing really new and of you say that the snapdragon s3 is old than so is the exynos and the Tegra because it's all based on the same old architecture.
My advice go either with the xperia s or buy an.one s online if you can't find it in your city...
s2 is the best
.....about the size...belive me..at first i thought s2 is huge....now i prefer note size.....when u used to read and use internet and forget laptop u will prefer the bigger
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soulaiman said:
The quadcore nvidia tegra 3 isn't more than.a marketing gimmick. It's nothing really new and of you say that the snapdragon s3 is old than so is the exynos and the Tegra because it's all based on the same old architecture.
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i know that but in india only one x is available
I am wondering, is the Xperia S really worth it with an S3 processor? I mean there will be more flagships later on in the year with S4. But what is so much better about this new processor and should I wait for phones with it or get the Xperia S?
Cheers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1584736
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599273
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597629
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1549315
I saw those, but am not looking at comparing with other phones, just want to know about the processor in general, will it be outdated soon?
adsada arc said:
I saw those, but am not looking at comparing with other phones, just want to know about the processor in general, will it be outdated soon?
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Yes. That is the nature of technology. The S4 will be outdated soon. As I always say, if you wait for 'the best' phone, you will wait forever.
If you used search, you would also see there's a thread about the S4 Hayabusa.
I can't be bothered to link the thread because I'm not google, but it's only rumors at the moment.
Of course better phones will be made later on in the year...that's how it always is. Like how it always is, if you keep waiting for phones you will never get one, because something better will be down the road...A phone is outdated within like...less than 4 months now with tech advances?
The S does it for me, if you want a comparison between the S3 and the S4, you can find it online.
Asking if the Xperia S is worth it, in the S thread isn't the best idea because well...we are all proud owners of the phone. I love the S, to me it's the phone to watch for this year, especially when ICS rolls out.
I agree that you end up waiting forever to keep up with tech, but I just feel like the S2 is a year old and had the same tech and the Xperia S. Sure you can never keep up with how technology moves but at least if the manufactures were releasing up to date hardware it would last that bit longer.
As for asking within the XS thread, I'd hope even if you love the phone you could still give some objective advice...
The extra speed is the main benefit of course, as every1 uses their smart phone slightly different no1 can really answer that for you, so what benefits do you think you will get waiting for the S4 processor?
The XPS S3 is plenty fast enough in my opinion, the phone plays smooth 1080p video in the browser... thats fast and not many phones/tablets can do that. The S4 will have the same ability so zero benefit there.
All games run smooth and will for yrs to come with the XPS same as when the S4 comes out so zero benefit there.
The XPS has a super fast high quality camera, the next phones might come out with a sub par camera so u might loose more benefit there and will have waited for nothing.
XPS is a great media player in general probably the same as the S4 when it comes so zero benefit again there.
Technical details you can find via the wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
If you want S4 right now tho it's in the HTC One S.
-smc
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No such thing as an outdated processor these days on any platform as 99% of software and games will be coded for the majority of all phones.
-smc
Yea, I believe you would have to fight to see the difference between the two...things even ran decently smooth on my X10 to be honest, and that was only an S1 .
Currently my S doesn't lag at all, its actually butter smooth, and I don't get any skipping or any kind of app lag. I guess it comes down to how you use the phone, and well...if you are a spec junkie. If you want an S4 right now, you have to get the One S (as SMC said), which isn't much of an upgrade (besides S4 and ICS, there's no plus) and at least in my opinion a huge downgrade in aesthetics and the camera.
I really think the difference between the S3 and S4 won't be visible...unless you are a spec-junkie and want to get top benchmarks at all times (which may be the only time you will see a difference, i think). I honestly don't think it will bring more (noticeably) to the table than you already get with S3.
Keeping it neutral enough?
I think S5 will be faster than S4.
I've benchmarked my XPS vs. one of my friends' One S. The difference in the benchmarks is noticeable, but I felt like everything on the XPS was smoother in general. It might be Sense 4 though. But again, and the camera on the One S is laaaaame, and the screen is not that great.
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RiotRick said:
I think S5 will be faster than S4.
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But not as fast as the M3.
Wait, cars or phones?
Okay I think I will keep it
See I won the Xperia S in the twitter competition and contemplating keeping my arc and selling it and waiting for the Hayabusa, but after seeing how much ebay steals off the final selling price. I never thought I would be using my arc as a back up phone less then a year after getting it (I normally upgrade every 2-3 years)
RiotRick said:
I think S5 will be faster than S4.
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S5 will be twice as fast but if you hold it wrong its slower.
S3 is 40 nm and S4 is 28 nm. It's faster, cooler and more power efficient. But it's not worth another 100 € (One S).
mikbe said:
S3 is 40 nm and S4 is 28 nm. It's faster, cooler and more power efficient. But it's not worth another 100 € (One S).
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Ok.... xperia s vs one s vs one x (s3/s4/tegra 3). I did that too, still I bought the Xperia S? Why?
One S / One X - faster CPU. XPS fast enough for a phone.
XPS / One S - Size is good, One X - too big
One S - qHD pentile display. XPS / One X great 720p displays
One S 16GB (too little for me). One X / XPS 32GB (enough)
Camera is good in all 3, altough XPS is probably best quality pics + dedicated camera button. OneS/X have nicer software interface
ICS All 3 will have it in a few weeks. No real issue to wait a little bit for it.
All of these phones have there stronger and weaker point. In the end you have to decide what you find most important. The CPU is only just one thing, for me definately not the most important. Granted you need a certain baseline speed for a phone to have it operate smoothly. But the S3 in the XPS has plenty of speed. Heck even the 1GHz single core S2 in the Desire HD still performs pretty nice on the resolution that phone has. S3 is the xps is a lot faster than that. It will serve me just fine the coming period.
I wanted to buy a phone that was in the 4" - 4.3" inch range, with a good 720p display, 32GB (or microsd slot), a decent camera and fast enough to operate smoothly. XPS suits that best, I also really like the design of it.
RiotRick said:
Ok.... xperia s vs one s vs one x (s3/s4/tegra 3). I did that too, still I bought the Xperia S? Why?
One S / One X - faster CPU. XPS fast enough for a phone.
XPS / One S - Size is good, One X - too big
One S - qHD pentile display. XPS / One X great 720p displays
One S 16GB (too little for me). One X / XPS 32GB (enough)
Camera is good in all 3, altough XPS is probably best quality pics + dedicated camera button. OneS/X have nicer software interface
ICS All 3 will have it in a few weeks. No real issue to wait a little bit for it.
All of these phones have there stronger and weaker point. In the end you have to decide what you find most important. The CPU is only just one thing, for me definately not the most important. Granted you need a certain baseline speed for a phone to have it operate smoothly. But the S3 in the XPS has plenty of speed. Heck even the 1GHz single core S2 in the Desire HD still performs pretty nice on the resolution that phone has. S3 is the xps is a lot faster than that. It will serve me just fine the coming period.
I wanted to buy a phone that was in the 4" - 4.3" inch range, with a good 720p display, 32GB (or microsd slot), a decent camera and fast enough to operate smoothly. XPS suits that best, I also really like the design of it.
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very helpful information thanks
Also, the Xperia S films 1080p movies @ 60fps while the HTC One only do 30fps.
RiotRick said:
Ok.... xperia s vs one s vs one x (s3/s4/tegra 3). I did that too, still I bought the Xperia S? Why?
One S / One X - faster CPU. XPS fast enough for a phone.
XPS / One S - Size is good, One X - too big
One S - qHD pentile display. XPS / One X great 720p displays
One S 16GB (too little for me). One X / XPS 32GB (enough)
Camera is good in all 3, altough XPS is probably best quality pics + dedicated camera button. OneS/X have nicer software interface
ICS All 3 will have it in a few weeks. No real issue to wait a little bit for it.
All of these phones have there stronger and weaker point. In the end you have to decide what you find most important. The CPU is only just one thing, for me definately not the most important. Granted you need a certain baseline speed for a phone to have it operate smoothly. But the S3 in the XPS has plenty of speed. Heck even the 1GHz single core S2 in the Desire HD still performs pretty nice on the resolution that phone has. S3 is the xps is a lot faster than that. It will serve me just fine the coming period.
I wanted to buy a phone that was in the 4" - 4.3" inch range, with a good 720p display, 32GB (or microsd slot), a decent camera and fast enough to operate smoothly. XPS suits that best, I also really like the design of it.
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Pretty much sums up why I love my Xperia S
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Also, the Xperia S films 1080p movies @ 60fps while the HTC One only do 30fps.
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You are wrong here. The Xperia S cannot record 60fps 1080p video. Only some of their camcorders are able to do this.
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You are wrong here. The Xperia S cannot record 60fps 1080p video. Only some of their camcorders are able to do this.
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It can, just needs a small media profiles change.
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Sony's refresh of the Xperia S is officially confirmed, specs are all the same except it has a 1.7ghz processor and it ships with ICS
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-sl/
http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/18/sony-xperia-sl-gsm-phone-official/?icid=m_eng_latest_art
Who's going to upgrade? I'm not, only a slight increase in specs, I'm sticking with my Xperia S until maybe Sony's 2013 lineup with quad core devices
Hope capacitive buttons panel is new.
Honestly i see no point what so ever to update if you already have the Xperia S. Yes it has a 1.7Ghz but still does not matter. Anyways i am staying with my Xperia S.
Yea hopefully they have the new panel for the captivate buttons but who knows. Also this comes with the new 4.0 ICS update but here in Canada we have yet seen this update. So am i guessing they wont release it here.
Sony is really doing an HTC this year. So many unnecessary Xperia models with similar looks and specs.
Sony should really start thinking on selling quad core devices, and be ahead of most of the other companies or at least be in the same range
Not worth to upgrade. At least now we know it's safe to overclock over phones to 1.7Ghz now.
Sony has f*ck*d us , new device( same As sxs but with + 200 mhz) , so Xperia s problem will be forgotten ( Yellow tint, display without yellow tint worse than the first display, different charger, no tag in the box, camera focus problem ( partially resolved with ics) etc....
What do you think?
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+1.. They should spend sometime on supporting their product such as upgrading OS etc.. really don't know what they're thinking. More phone with almost identical spec???
Do they even care about their existing customer?
randy_c said:
+1.. They should spend sometime on supporting their product such as upgrading OS etc.. really don't know what they're thinking. More phone with almost identical spec???
Do they even care about their existing customer?
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you guys should know that Sony is re-doing Sony Ericsson phones portfolio, meaning reselling the older designs/series into NZT styles. why do you think most of the phones represent older ericcson phones? for a reason.
then again this the Xperia Arc S (xperia SL u could link them perhaps) was the last phone seen from Ericsson. So therfor Sony should be able to start fresh next Year with their new phones instead of remaking older models
Sony is finaly rolling some models.
Not like Sony Ericson which had only few models and they were outdated
Sony are being retarded. Whats the point in releasing 10 different versions of the same underdeveloped phone?
They are barely supporting the Xperia S and now another pointless update?
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Sony has f*ck*d us , new device( same As sxs but with + 200 mhz) , so Xperia s problem will be forgotten ( Yellow tint, display without yellow tint worse than the first display, different charger, no tag in the box, camera focus problem ( partially resolved with ics) etc....
What do you think?
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Ill agree with that
it ist just a life cycle impulse. don´t cry like litlle babies.
it is quite usual to do this and especially se/sony did this in the past.
ps one, ps2 slim, ps3 slim, psp slim, arc s, x10 hd, vivaz pro/hd ( can´t remember well) .....
Got to wonder how they've gotten 1.7GHz out of an S3 unless it's been shrunk to 28nm process.
Quad cores will be a flash in the pan for now, dual core a15's (S4) are faster in most cases than a Quad A9 and a lot faster in day to day use
I guess this is great for anyone who has a real XDA/SetCPU phobia.
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Got to wonder how they've gotten 1.7GHz out of an S3 unless it's been shrunk to 28nm process.
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You don't need to. Each batch of chips results into some really good ones, a lot of "just average" and some "underperformers". Depending on business model the manufacturer could choose to sell them at several different speed grades (like Intel or AMD) or just scrap the underperformers and sell the rest as "average" (like [email protected]) even if some of them could actually clock higher.
As manufacturing process matures and gets tuned, you will start getting more and more really good ones. At some time you can produce enough of them to be able to introduce a new quicker grade.
Quad cores will be a flash in the pan for now, dual core a15's (S4) are faster in most cases than a Quad A9 and a lot faster in day to day use
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It looks like qualcomm is still unable to produce enough of S4's and Sony is forced to scramble for stop gap solutions. "Warmed up" SXSL could be just one of them.
This is why manufacturers are using S4 only where they absolutely need to, for example because of requirement to support LTE. And even splash out a lot of cash for parallel and arguably worse hardware designs based on Tegra3 (HTC One X usa vs international). Or even roll back to S3 (htc one s in some markets).
This is why almost every new tablet comes with Tegra3 and almost none based on S4.
cikomiko said:
it ist just a life cycle impulse. don´t cry like litlle babies.
it is quite usual to do this and especially se/sony did this in the past.
ps one, ps2 slim, ps3 slim, psp slim, arc s, x10 hd, vivaz pro/hd ( can´t remember well) .....
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It is not valid to compare these to the PlayStation refreshes, completely different.
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You don't need to. Each batch of chips results into some really good ones, a lot of "just average" and some "underperformers". Depending on business model the manufacturer could choose to sell them at several different speed grades (like Intel or AMD) or just scrap the underperformers and sell the rest as "average" (like [email protected]) even if some of them could actually clock higher.
As manufacturing process matures and gets tuned, you will start getting more and more really good ones. At some time you can produce enough of them to be able to introduce a new quicker grade.
It looks like qualcomm is still unable to produce enough of S4's and Sony is forced to scramble for stop gap solutions. "Warmed up" SXSL could be just one of them.
This is why manufacturers are using S4 only where they absolutely need to, for example because of requirement to support LTE. And even splash out a lot of cash for parallel and arguably worse hardware designs based on Tegra3 (HTC One X usa vs international). Or even roll back to S3 (htc one s in some markets).
This is why almost every new tablet comes with Tegra3 and almost none based on S4.
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You don't need S4 to support LTE. SG2 LTE has two or even one core...
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The xperia s was never an Ericsson in the first place
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The xperia s was never an Ericsson in the first place
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Really? So I'm getting blured vision because headphones, charger, battery, manuals and anything else that I don't remember at this moment says "SONY ERICSSON".
Well i finally said goodbye to my Galaxy S3, will i miss it nope not at all, mainly because it suffered from both dust issue's around the edges, and had probs with 32GB sandisk memory cards, other than that it been great.
Now because of the probs with the Galaxy S3, I'm tempted to skip Samsung this time around & head over to the Sony camp with the Xperia Z, what i seen so far it nothing short of brilliant, looks like Sony have really got their act together now, just hope they also get their act together when it comes to future updates aswell.
BUT
There also a small matter of the Galaxy S4 in the next couple of months, the thing that will put me off the Galaxy S4 if the design is based around the Galaxy S3, i don't want to have another smartphone suffer from dust around the edges again, as this pissed me off no end, but i'm a fan of touchwiz I loved the last update on the Galaxy S3 like split screen ect, and I've no doubt they improve touchwiz again with more new features on the GS4.
Then we got the specs, which will probably blow the others out of the water, but will it matter on Android 4.2.1 as the others will also have simliar specs ie Quad core 2gig of ram 4G ect, all very capable of running latest version of Android in 2013 and into 2014.
Also the camera is an important feature to me as i tend to use it alot, Sony really has a good camera on the Xperia Z with HDR video recording, picture quality is top notch aswell, going off what i've seen on Flickr.
On the Galaxy S3 the camera for a smartphone was superb, the lowlight feature that was added in the latest update is nothing short of brilliant i think.
I think the Galaxy S4 will probably use the same Sony Sensor that used in the Xperia Z unless they decide to make their own that is.
But eitherway camera is gonna be good.
I've got a hard decision to make over the next couple of months to get either the Sony or hang fire until we see what the S4 gonna be like.
In the meantime with the money sat in the bank, I'm now using my Nokia Lumia 800 as my backup phone, which in all honesty isn't a bad little phone and makes for a great backup Smartphone.
Don't let the door hit ya on your way out.
Anyways, the Z looks nice but Sony is known to be slow with updates. Maybe the Z could run aosp nicely though.
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I'm with you. I'm waiting for the Z to be released in my country to buy it, it looks great and the specs are awesome.
Sony are very developer friendly, AOSP "aware" too. Samsung... aren't. Sony tend to get their hardware designs correct, Samsung struggle with basics like flash timings -SDS (even their own brand eMMC).
You decide. Pros and Cons for both, personal preference is the only matter.
GET the S4. the Z might look nice, but it's hardware is basically outdated. S4 PRO is a 2012 chip, not a 2013 chip. It also isn't REAL a15, so Tegra 4, Exynos 5, and the "s" series, s600 and s800 will beat da crap out of the s4 pro in the Z. But it's your choice, if you want already outdated hardware.. go ahead..
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GET the S4. the Z might look nice, but it's hardware is basically outdated. S4 PRO is a 2012 chip, not a 2013 chip. It also isn't REAL a15, so Tegra 4, Exynos 5, and the "s" series, s600 and s800 will beat da crap out of the s4 pro in the Z. But it's your choice, if you want already outdated hardware.. go ahead..
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Outdated or not, it not gonna struggle with anything from Android this year, or next year for that matter.
Tell me one thing that the S4 pro will have problems with software wise?
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Outdated or not, it not gonna struggle with anything from Android this year, or next year for that matter.
Tell me one thing that the S4 pro will have problems with software wise?
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it'll be outdated. just wait for the first coming comparisons with the S4 and Z. I can guarantee you that the S4 will blow the Z out of the water, reason why, is that it'll have a REAL a15 SoC.
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Outdated or not, it not gonna struggle with anything from Android this year, or next year for that matter.
Tell me one thing that the S4 pro will have problems with software wise?
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It will struggle surely next year
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Here is your answer Sony released kernel source for Xperia Z before the phone is even available for purchase https://www.xda-developers.com/andr...ce-released-prior-to-worldwide-device-launch/
Go for the Z.
Kernel source isn't much dude... But good job trying to market for Sony. Besides they are required to do that anyway by GPL. They need processor data sheets, the binaries source.
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I really like my 7 inch Mediapad X1, But something with little more power in the CPU department would be nice. Its sort of sluggish at times.
Has anyone seen any other 7 inch phones with a faster Qualcomm or Snapdragon CPU?
wait for x2
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In the last two months I was searching for the same,,, without finding better CPU or 3 GB ram in 7" .. Hope that the coming x2 will satisfy the needs
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In the last two months I was searching for the same,,, without finding better CPU or 3 GB ram in 7" .. Hope that the coming x2 will satisfy the needs
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Do we have any details on the mediapad X2?
Give me 3gb of ram and a fast cpu and i'd have my perfect phone.
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Do we have any details on the mediapad X2?
Give me 3gb of ram and a fast cpu and i'd have my perfect phone.
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Some websites writing the following :
it’s going to have a full metal body but looks similar to the previous model with the same slots for the volume, SIM card, etc… The size is believed to be around 7-inches as well, so it’s not going to be the type of handset you can easily tote around in your pocket – unless you have really big pockets.
The leaked Huawei MediaPad X2 specs is said to sport the aforementioned 7-inch display with a resolution of 1,920 x 1,200. It will get its power from a Kirin 925, and that will be backed up by 3GB of RAM. No other specs were given
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Some websites writing the following :
it’s going to have a full metal body but looks similar to the previous model with the same slots for the volume, SIM card, etc… The size is believed to be around 7-inches as well, so it’s not going to be the type of handset you can easily tote around in your pocket – unless you have really big pockets.
The leaked Huawei MediaPad X2 specs is said to sport the aforementioned 7-inch display with a resolution of 1,920 x 1,200. It will get its power from a Kirin 925, and that will be backed up by 3GB of RAM. No other specs were given
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Sounds perfect, I guess I'll have to keep my eye out for the Mediapad X2
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Sounds perfect, I guess I'll have to keep my eye out for the Mediapad X2
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Here : http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/12/27/huawei-honor-x2-pictures-specs-leaked-features-full-metal-body/
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Here : http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/12/27/huawei-honor-x2-pictures-specs-leaked-features-full-metal-body/
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8 Core CPU. Sounds pretty good
More info about Huawei Mediapad X2 :
http://www.unlockpwd.com/huawei-mediapad-x2-exists-and-has-been-certified/
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8 Core CPU. Sounds pretty good
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8 inch is more convenient and not much bigger. And makes a difference from 5.5 inch phones, which were called phablets not long ago. If u want 3G/4G, there aren't many alternatives, usually. I still use the original Mediapad S7 with dualcore cpu, along with a much more powerful 10 inch tablet, which I won't use outside, as long as the MP does still its job.
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8 inch is more convenient and not much bigger. And makes a difference from 5.5 inch phones, which were called phablets not long ago. If u want 3G/4G, there aren't many alternatives, usually. I still use the original Mediapad S7 with dualcore cpu, along with a much more powerful 10 inch tablet, which I won't use outside, as long as the MP does still its job.
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An 8 inch phone is perfectly fine with me, But i'm not aware of any that have 3G/4G connectivity for making phone calls.
As my 10" Samsung Note 10.1 2014 is phone call capable, so should at least part of the smaller Notes and Pads. Though they are more expensive than Huawei stuff while having inferior build quality, like delicate plastic frames.
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As my 10" Samsung Note 10.1 2014 is phone call capable, so should at least part of the smaller Notes and Pads. Though they are more expensive than Huawei stuff while having inferior build quality, like delicate plastic frames.
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I haven't found anything 8 inch with cell calling capability yet...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_3_8_0-5456.php
Galaxy tab 8.0 t311
I used it as a phone for a year. I liked it, and actually carried it around in my pocket.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_3_8_0-5456.php
Galaxy tab 8.0 t311
I used it as a phone for a year. I liked it, and actually carried it around in my pocket.
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Nice! Now if they made a more modern version of that I'd be in....
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_3_8_0-5456.php
Galaxy tab 8.0 t311
I used it as a phone for a year. I liked it, and actually carried it around in my pocket.
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Sorry, but that isn't even in the same league!
Half the display resolution, only 5mp camera.
The price is good at about €250 with 3Gb ram.
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I haven't found anything 8 inch with cell calling capability yet...
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Lenovo Spark 8
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/#tab-available_from
4G LTE with call capability, Intel Atom Quad Core Processor with 2GB ram, FHD IPS screen, microSD support, 4290mAh, rear camera has flash (torchlight! cant live without this function!), very attractively priced at ard $280-290
if i m ditching huawei X1, i will seriously consider this
Another gem to consider will be Asus Memopad 8
http://www.asus.com/sg/Tablets/ASUS_MeMO_Pad_8_ME581CL/
Similarly spec-ed as Lenovo Spark 8 on paper, but it has a 'better' screen in reality (very close to X1, imho, X1 has the best screen among the 3, that is the sole reason I m sticking with it atm, everytime it lights up, my eyes too!), AC wifi, but no rear camera flash; also sells for ard $280-290
latest reports indicate X2 will be officially unveiled at MWC 2015, and if the path of X1 is anything to follow, stocks will hit the chinese market ard June this year, let's see what huawei brings to the party!
One phone I'd consider, is the Sony Xperia Z3 compact. Has an 8" scren, which is kind of in that it is the "compact" of the 5.2" "normal Z3..
One major improvement is that the headphone jack is waterproof even without being covered.
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One phone I'd consider, is the Sony Xperia Z3 compact. Has an 8" scren, which is kind of in that it is the "compact" of the 5.2" "normal Z3..
One major improvement is that the headphone jack is waterproof even without being covered.
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I think u mean the Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact, that is the one having 8" screen; the Sony Xperia Z3 compact on the other hand has a 4.6" screen.
The tablet is a good device, but the price when compared to Huawei's, Lenovo's and Asus's offerings, is not that attractive if one is not looking for IP68 protection.
It is selling for abt $450.
The Sony Xperia Z3 compact which sports the same Snapdragon 801 chipset but with a lesser 2600mAh battery and half HD screen, is $25 less.
Oops! How could I have overlooked the tablet part.
Yes indeed, there is a premium to be paid for the name, IP68, and the extra inch.
potatohead said:
latest reports indicate X2 will be officially unveiled at MWC 2015, and if the path of X1 is anything to follow, stocks will hit the chinese market ard June this year, let's see what huawei brings to the party!
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I was thinking indeed that some march annoucement were a bit optimistic:
http://mobilewithprices.com/huawei-mediapad-x2-1707.php
Anyway, lot of spec. details in this link!