guys i relocked and unrooted my evo 3d with 2.17 ruu, latest ota, and i must say all the lag, temperature issues, and lack of smoothness is gone...originally, when i updated to .5 it was very smooth, so i rooted, but lack of source made me go back and i must say... is anyone else out there experiancing better performance when back to unrooted locked state s on.??
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guys i relocked and unrooted my evo 3d with 2.17 ruu, latest ota, and i must say all the lag, temperature issues, and lack of smoothness is gone...originally, when i updated to .5 it was very smooth, so i rooted, but lack of source made me go back and i must say... is anyone else out there experiancing better performance when back to unrooted locked state s on.??
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2.17.x.x is the fastest rom base out, maybe thats where you are seing extra speed. wish we had it for GSM :/
Luthien1 said:
guys i relocked and unrooted my evo 3d with 2.17 ruu, latest ota, and i must say all the lag, temperature issues, and lack of smoothness is gone...originally, when i updated to .5 it was very smooth, so i rooted, but lack of source made me go back and i must say... is anyone else out there experiancing better performance when back to unrooted locked state s on.??
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What were you using before the RUU?
Luthien1 said:
guys i relocked and unrooted my evo 3d with 2.17 ruu, latest ota, and i must say all the lag, temperature issues, and lack of smoothness is gone...originally, when i updated to .5 it was very smooth, so i rooted, but lack of source made me go back and i must say... is anyone else out there experiancing better performance when back to unrooted locked state s on.??
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I cannot think of a reason why going back to unrooted would give you any better performance than running a stock 2.17.x.x or a rom based on it. I am currently running MeanRom v2.3 and I don't see how stock unrooted could out perform this device in terms of speed and battery life my phone has never been better. That being said if it is working for you and you do not need root for anything more power to you.
Luthien1 said:
guys i relocked and unrooted my evo 3d with 2.17 ruu, latest ota, and i must say all the lag, temperature issues, and lack of smoothness is gone...originally, when i updated to .5 it was very smooth, so i rooted, but lack of source made me go back and i must say... is anyone else out there experiancing better performance when back to unrooted locked state s on.??
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I found the same going back to a stock, rooted ROM after spending time with a number of custom ROM's. Definitely weird, but I haven't dwelt on it. I am sure there were more advanced settings and tricks I could have done with the custom ROM's to speed things up.
Non sequitor, my iPhone runs 50% faster bone-stock now vs. when it was jailbroken.
Its probably because you haven't installed anything. Install another rooted ROM and don't install anything. It flies.
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Luthien1 said:
guys i relocked and unrooted my evo 3d with 2.17 ruu, latest ota, and i must say all the lag, temperature issues, and lack of smoothness is gone...originally, when i updated to .5 it was very smooth, so i rooted, but lack of source made me go back and i must say... is anyone else out there experiancing better performance when back to unrooted locked state s on.??
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I used to root my previous phones buy i feel by doing that your lowering the phones life and preformance. Manufacturers make the phones the way they are for a reason. Performance amd life. I got my 3D and didnt root it and it runs just as good if not the same as the day i bought it.
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Hello fellow EVO 3D users! We started this thread for a few reasons. First, we are helpful, good at troubleshooting, and we know android. Second, we used to be noobs, and haven't forgotten. Third, less clutter around here would be nice.
team d3rp is comprised of:
myself, ranger61878, pstevep, thoughtlesskyle, vanessaem, dkdude36, jdeloach, steelH, and fdb8231.
You can ask literally any question you want, we will try to help. Ask for links, zips, mods, root info, etc. Please search first, then ask for help. We may give you a little heat for being a d3rp, because it's fun, so don't take it personally.
Thanks in advance for asking your questions and requests in here, and NOT starting a new thread.
For requests, feel free to ask for whatever. We will try to create/modify what you want, but sometimes we won't be able to, or we won't want to lol. Just remember, if we can't do it or point you in the right direction, you're in the same boat as before you asked. No matter what we should all enjoy learning from each other.
Continue on with the questions. d3rp d3rp...
We now have a chatroom (WIP), try to find us there >
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will this car charger burn my battery up? it's a 2amp. are their any benefits/ negatives to a 2amp over a 1amp? thanks.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/univer...dapter-for-digital-devices-black-12-24v-72961
strap97 said:
will this car charger burn my battery up? it's a 2amp. are their any benefits/ negatives to a 2amp over a 1amp? thanks.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/univer...dapter-for-digital-devices-black-12-24v-72961
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I gotta say, aftermarket accessories may be where we draw the line on knowledge lol. I read that link, it said "for devices compatible with 5v/2000mA" so, I guess I don't know for sure. But, a 5 dollar USB charger will almost surely not hose down this device, it can transmit streaming HD thru that same port, so it's probably fine.
I lost roaming after s-off is there a fix
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I lost roaming after s-off is there a fix
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Is it still turned on in your settings? If it is, you'll have to call Sprint and have them refresh your phone.
ruffneckZeVo said:
I lost roaming after s-off is there a fix
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Are you on stock, stock w/kernel, custom ROM? Also, I assume you are constantly in the same roam area, and now it doesn't work? Are you sure it's just your phone? I guess since s-off is done throught the radio it is possible that s-off did it, but I doubt it. And what have you already tried to do for a fix?
s-off; Root; OTA Updates
I've been reading with great interest all of the threads about s-off, rooting for the EVO 3D. I have never rooted a phone before (although I did jailbreak a friends iphone a couple of years ago). Here's my question:
Is it possible to get s-off, root, recovery - keep the stock ROM and still take OTA updates?
The reason I ask is that there are still a few things that I expect the next OTA update will fix such as the icons going default for any app stored on the SD card after reboot.
For now, I would like to be able to use apps that require root but still be able to use the OTA until such time as I decide to flash a custom ROM.
Thanks in advance.
mvansomeren said:
I've been reading with great interest all of the threads about s-off, rooting for the EVO 3D. I have never rooted a phone before (although I did jailbreak a friends iphone a couple of years ago). Here's my question:
Is it possible to get s-off, root, recovery - keep the stock ROM and still take OTA updates?
The reason I ask is that there are still a few things that I expect the next OTA update will fix such as the icons going default for any app stored on the SD card after reboot.
For now, I would like to be able to use apps that require root but still be able to use the OTA until such time as I decide to flash a custom ROM.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes. s-off exploits the radio so OTA updates wont affect it.
Question regarding OC
I don't consider myself a n00b, but I am confused with the overclocking on this phone. I am coming from an EVO 4g, and did plenty of overclocking on it. What I noticed with the original EVO was that the performance benchmarks increased when it was overclocked. Once it reached a certain clock speed, then it would crash if it was too high. I keep seeing people say that benchmarks don't matter. I understand where they are coming from, but this is different.
Stock kernel with Viper ROM, my 3d scores in the 2000's consistently with Quadrant. If I overclock it to 1.5, it significantly drops. It's even worse when overclocked to 1.7 (the score is around 700). The phone does not crash though. People keep saying that this doesn't matter, but I have to disagree. As I am running Quadrant, I can visibly see the test animations are choppy and the FPS are much slower for each given test. Also, the database writes are taking longer. This would explain such a poor Quadrant score.
So... my questions are:
Is Quadrant just not optimized for a dual core processor? Why would it run so smooth stock, but then get all choppy when OC'd?
Maybe there is something off with the OC part of the kernels? I've tried both Silverneedle and RCMIX. Both give me the same results.
I've tried SetCPU with poor results. Then I uninstalled it and just used Viper's built in Daemon. Same poor results.
Do I have an inferior processor that can't be OC'd to even 1.5? My understanding of this chip is that it is actually a 1.5ghz chip that is being underclocked by HTC from the factory.
Sorry for being lengthy, but I've read through so many posts, and I'm tired of reading that "benchmarks don't mean sh*t".
mvansomeren said:
I've been reading with great interest all of the threads about s-off, rooting for the EVO 3D. I have never rooted a phone before (although I did jailbreak a friends iphone a couple of years ago). Here's my question:
Is it possible to get s-off, root, recovery - keep the stock ROM and still take OTA updates?
The reason I ask is that there are still a few things that I expect the next OTA update will fix such as the icons going default for any app stored on the SD card after reboot.
For now, I would like to be able to use apps that require root but still be able to use the OTA until such time as I decide to flash a custom ROM.
Thanks in advance.
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I would avoid the OTAs if you can, because they will take away root, and I am sure we will get the GOOD parts of each OTA in here as a flashable zip. OTAs are notorious for patching root, so be weary, and wait to flash them until you read about them here first.
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I don't consider myself a n00b, but I am confused with the overclocking on this phone. I am coming from an EVO 4g, and did plenty of overclocking on it. What I noticed with the original EVO was that the performance benchmarks increased when it was overclocked. Once it reached a certain clock speed, then it would crash if it was too high. I keep seeing people say that benchmarks don't matter. I understand where they are coming from, but this is different.
Stock kernel with Viper ROM, my 3d scores in the 2000's consistently with Quadrant. If I overclock it to 1.5, it significantly drops. It's even worse when overclocked to 1.7 (the score is around 700). The phone does not crash though. People keep saying that this doesn't matter, but I have to disagree. As I am running Quadrant, I can visibly see the test animations are choppy and the FPS are much slower for each given test. Also, the database writes are taking longer. This would explain such a poor Quadrant score.
So... my questions are:
Is Quadrant just not optimized for a dual core processor? Why would it run so smooth stock, but then get all choppy when OC'd?
Maybe there is something off with the OC part of the kernels? I've tried both Silverneedle and RCMIX. Both give me the same results.
I've tried SetCPU with poor results. Then I uninstalled it and just used Viper's built in Daemon. Same poor results.
Do I have an inferior processor that can't be OC'd to even 1.5? My understanding of this chip is that it is actually a 1.5ghz chip that is being underclocked by HTC from the factory.
Sorry for being lengthy, but I've read through so many posts, and I'm tired of reading that "benchmarks don't mean sh*t".
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Vipers Daemon is the reason you were getting great scores but once you flashed a kernel the daemon will no longer run even if you flash back to stock kernel, you will have to re-flash viperRom to get the daemon to run again until viper releases the daemon alone as a flashable file.
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So... my questions are:
Is Quadrant just not optimized for a dual core processor? Why would it run so smooth stock, but then get all choppy when OC'd?
Do I have an inferior processor that can't be OC'd to even 1.5? My understanding of this chip is that it is actually a 1.5ghz chip that is being underclocked by HTC from the factory.
Sorry for being lengthy, but I've read through so many posts, and I'm tired of reading that "benchmarks don't mean sh*t".
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IMO quad is NOT dual-core friendly, please use CF bench (made by chainfire on xda), I get sweet scores with that one. Using netarchy at 1.7 stock ROM.
You *might* have a chip that should stay at 1.2, who knows...
quads don't mean sh1t lol.
il Duce said:
I would avoid the OTAs if you can, because they will take away root, and I am sure we will get the GOOD parts of each OTA in here as a flashable zip. OTAs are notorious for patching root, so be weary, and wait to flash them until you read about them here first.
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I read from the devs that flashing OTA are safe since the exploit is via the radio. Think your wrong on this one, but its never a bad idea to be safe and check here before you accept an OTA.
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Are you on stock, stock w/kernel, custom ROM? Also, I assume you are constantly in the same roam area, and now it doesn't work? Are you sure it's just your phone? I guess since s-off is done throught the radio it is possible that s-off did it, but I doubt it. And what have you already tried to do for a fix?
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I'm using shooter rewind rls 2 rc1 has the newest rcmix kernel. It is an area I have always roamed in Verizon. So far I have done ##72786# and done the hands free updated prl tried all radios available
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ckombo said:
I don't consider myself a n00b, but I am confused with the overclocking on this phone. I am coming from an EVO 4g, and did plenty of overclocking on it. What I noticed with the original EVO was that the performance benchmarks increased when it was overclocked. Once it reached a certain clock speed, then it would crash if it was too high. I keep seeing people say that benchmarks don't matter. I understand where they are coming from, but this is different.
Stock kernel with Viper ROM, my 3d scores in the 2000's consistently with Quadrant. If I overclock it to 1.5, it significantly drops. It's even worse when overclocked to 1.7 (the score is around 700). The phone does not crash though. People keep saying that this doesn't matter, but I have to disagree. As I am running Quadrant, I can visibly see the test animations are choppy and the FPS are much slower for each given test. Also, the database writes are taking longer. This would explain such a poor Quadrant score.
So... my questions are:
Is Quadrant just not optimized for a dual core processor? Why would it run so smooth stock, but then get all choppy when OC'd?
Maybe there is something off with the OC part of the kernels? I've tried both Silverneedle and RCMIX. Both give me the same results.
I've tried SetCPU with poor results. Then I uninstalled it and just used Viper's built in Daemon. Same poor results.
Do I have an inferior processor that can't be OC'd to even 1.5? My understanding of this chip is that it is actually a 1.5ghz chip that is being underclocked by HTC from the factory.
Sorry for being lengthy, but I've read through so many posts, and I'm tired of reading that "benchmarks don't mean sh*t".
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Alright let me explain...
First you need to keep in mind that the kernels are in their beta stages. I had a quadrant score an 800, but my phone operates fine and plays games fine. Some of these kernels have the multiplier intervals wrong. I can get into that if you need me to, but anyways, on forth. There is a possibility that the CPUs on the EVO are actually lower binned chips. Now why do I say this? Because it has come to mind that overclocks vary, but like I said... The kernels are in their beta stages. Ill get in depth if you need me to about the processors and the bins.
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When I make a roaming call it says welcome to Verizon you are calling fron an invalid number please call your customer service also my data works
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OK heres a dopey question from a dopey chef.
Right now I have twrp recovery and its cool but I'm stuck in old ways. Can I download Rom manager and flash cwm over twrp? And if it does work, there won't be any issues? I know everyone.... twrp smokes cwm but that's what I'm used to. Then again.... if all the devs go with twrp then I should stay with twrp right? And blah blah blah? Lol
Thanks in advance.
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OK heres a dopey question from a dopey chef.
Right now I have twrp recovery and its cool but I'm stuck in old ways. Can I download Rom manager and flash cwm over twrp? And if it does work, there won't be any issues? I know everyone.... twrp smokes cwm but that's what I'm used to. Then again.... if all the devs go with twrp then I should stay with twrp right? And blah blah blah? Lol
Thanks in advance.
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No problem with flashing CWM within Rom Manager, just make sure you have quick boot disabled under your options (phone options that is) or when you boot the recover (since quick boot doesnt shut the phone all the way down) you will still see TWRP... TWRP owns though, just with the compress nandroid alone.
Konfuzion said:
I read from the devs that flashing OTA are safe since the exploit is via the radio. Think your wrong on this one, but its never a bad idea to be safe and check here before you accept an OTA.
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We're sorta both right. I would just hate to see someone trust an OTA, like the one when they make the bootloader, which could lockdown the whole phone, no root, who knows. It's safer to wait, like we both said
My girlfriend has a HTC Evo 3d. She updated the phone!! So now she is stuck in hboot 1.500. Her phone is slow and laggy. The interface is terrible. I have a HTC sensation and after I rooted, overclocked and installed a custom rom, the phone is has been smooth as butter and way faster than the Evo 3d. Is there anyway I can make her phone smoother and a little faster while we wait for revolutionary to unlock hboot 1.5? I understand that performance won't be like a custom rom or kernel, but some UI improvement would be nice. I appreciate any help.
abrown0809 said:
My girlfriend has a HTC Evo 3d. She updated the phone!! So now she is stuck in hboot 1.500. Her phone is slow and laggy. The interface is terrible. I have a HTC sensation and after I rooted, overclocked and installed a custom rom, the phone is has been smooth as butter and way faster than the Evo 3d. Is there anyway I can make her phone smoother and a little faster while we wait for revolutionary to unlock hboot 1.5? I understand that performance won't be like a custom rom or kernel, but some UI improvement would be nice. I appreciate any help.
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Why not just root the phone? you can still flash custom roms/kernals - just need to follow the following guide to be able to flash correctly - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821 .
Sorry, but don't know of any ways to make it smoother/faster without root. When she does root it, check out CleanROM as it is basically stock that is fast, stable and works with great battery life. Check it out on www.scottsroms.com.
I say take it back to sprint and get another one. It should not be laggy at all. The 3d is faster than a sensation. She must have a defective 3d.
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Try freeing up some memory, clean the caches,
Settings- SD and memory- make more space- all apps- then continue on through the menus until complete.
Anything particular standing out as in apps that have made it slower?
Back up what you can however you can and do a data factory reset, should clean out a lot of unnecessary data from memory.
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I'm one of those people that ended up with an incredibly reliable Thunderbolt. It hardly ever crashes, fixed GPS, Liquid rom, extended battery/case from Trident. It's a very reliable phone, very quick.
But I do want something newer, something faster.
Now with the Thunderbolt, I could S=off -> S=on and send it back no problem.
With the Rezound, it appears it's not that simple. I've seen that rooting and unrooting leads to "TAMPERED" being tagged. Has anyone exchanged one under warranty and had any issues?
How "moddable" is this phone without risking the Tampered tag. If I want to use custom roms and over-clock the CPU, is it still possible?
Has anyone moved from a rooted, Liquid flashed reliable Thunderbolt to a Rezound that can share their experience? Thanks guys! I considered the Nexus but I don't know how Google could mess up their selection on a manufacturer that bad. The best Nexus phone so far was HTC branded and the worst Android devices of the new era have been Samsung branded. So who do we pick for the Verizon Nexus? Oh yeah let's go with Samsung, GREAT choice.
its not as close to moding as the tbolt, I also used both.
Scot makes phenomenal roms I only use his roms, but there are other amazing developers , so there is no lack of great devs for this phone.
HOWEVER :
Coming fro the tbolt with cm7 ( and all its derivatives) the sad truth is ( imho) that my tbolt was and still is faster than my rezound with 0 Lag and incredible signal with battery life.
Here is why I think thats the case: The mere sizes of the rom should tell you something , cm with gapps never really exceed 150 mb. There is not a single rom out there not ( ics or gb sensed and desensed ) that is less than 300 for the rezound
Also its all wishful thinking with the s-off , devs have made great accomplishments but there is no solid hard proof that it will be release to the masses as of yet.
S-off has amazing benifits. On the tbolt i can flash 4 different roms in one day trying to find one that i like , between sense, senseless, cm or actually towards the end miui. Nandroid restore was an absolute breeze if something went wrong ( such as the infamous gps issue ).
Not so much with the rezound, nandroid restore is really reserved for the same class of roms ( meaning if you nandroid restore a gb from ics , you have to go through a lot of hoops and read endless pages of forums. )
The thunderbolt RIL accomplishment is also worth its weight in gold, I dont really see that department being touched right now.
I tried liquid and I loved dhackers shoftao5p, his work was simply GOLD. you will NOT get the same smoothness with the rezound specially if you have another launcher on top ( Go launcher is my favorite, and its terrible on the rezound, on both ics, and gb . But it was liquid smooth on the tbolt ). You will not get all the beautiful mods liquid and cm had , although we are getting there on the mods.
The rezound is an awesome phone bec whats underneath the hood, but i think of it this way, if you have an awesome engine and but so so transmission and tires , you wont really get the full potential. I dont that full potential being really unlocked until the RIL and the s-ff are fully accomplished. The sad reality is that by the time all of this is accomplished HTC would probably have a newer phone with jelly bean on it.
I got the rezound bec like you, i wanted the next big thing, and i saw the hardware and I was so under the impression that it will crush my tbolt flat . And the fact that its the only phone beside the tbolt that does data and calls simultaneously on 3g ( Note: dont let other ppl fool you by telling you any 4g phone can do that, yes they can but only in 4g or wifi, unlike the tbolt or rezound).
Also the rezound graphics and camera are beyond imagination , but to me speed , battery life and signal are the most imp factors and even though they have comparable signals, my super tweaked tbolt had jaw dropping battery life and speed . It handled whatever launcher whatever game or video like a beast, and it stayed at a cool 29 degrees on the hottest summer day
if your into super tweaking your device and making every little inch of your phone work for you the way you want it , then stick with the thunderbolt for the moment and keep a watchful eyes.
and the s-off topic and cm are very sensitive, but hey, whats another forum on which ppl will cuss me out on calling it for what it is
Until we get S-Off (which appears it may be coming soon), you have to unlock the phone to root it and it's not possible to return it to a Locked stated (it will say Re-Locked)
The Tampered tag came with the leaked firmware updates, after installing those and flashing a custom recovery, you'll get Tampered.
You can unlock it and run the latest ICS roms using a patch vs flashing the latest firmware.
There have been plenty of people who claim they returned a Re-Locked phone back without issue. We do have one user though who got charged for his phone a few months later, they have not been able to get a solid answer out of Verizon as to why the charge.
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jmichaels1982 said:
Not so much with the rezound, nandroid restore is really reserved for the same class of roms ( meaning if you nandroid restore a gb from ics , you have to go through a lot of hoops and read endless pages of forums. )
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This can be summed up with two issues.
1) Nandroid can't restore kernels because we don't have S-Off. You need to flash it manually or use the Nandroid Helper script to restore a kernel. If and when we get S-Off this will be a non issue.
2) The latest firmware changes the SD card mount points. If you have the latest firmware installed and want to switch to a rom not based on the latest leak, you need to flash a script to fix the SD mount points. With most of the latest ICS roms now supporting the older firmware, I would hold off installing it til we have an official update.
it's a nice phone but the battery life blows worse than the tbolt.
mighty_markus12 said:
it's a nice phone but the battery life blows worse than the tbolt.
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The contrary is true for me. I get waaaaaaaay better battery life on my rezound. The thunderbolt is great. But the rezound is better. They guy above that said the rezound isn't as smooth doesn't know what he's talking about. The rezound is lightyears ahead smoother. It could just be golauncher that he has problems with for one simple reason, the thunderbolt has a 480x800 screen, the rezound has a 1280x720 display, that launcher is obviously not optimized to work on that rez so it pits a heavier load on the rezound trying to get it to function properly. I've been using Apex launcher and it has been buttery smooth.
All the rezound needs is aosp, s-off would be nice but it isn't really nessisary.
Don't worry about the whole tampered relocked thing, several of my family memebers have returned their rezound with the relocked on and we have yet to hear from Verizon about it.
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The contrary is true for me. I get waaaaaaaay better battery life on my rezound. The thunderbolt is great. But the rezound is better. They guy above that said the rezound isn't as smooth doesn't know what he's talking about. The rezound is lightyears ahead smoother. It could just be golauncher that he has problems with for one simple reason, the thunderbolt has a 480x800 screen, the rezound has a 1280x720 display, that launcher is obviously not optimized to work on that rez so it pits a heavier load on the rezound trying to get it to function properly. I've been using Apex launcher and it has been buttery smooth.
All the rezound needs is aosp, s-off would be nice but it isn't really nessisary.
Don't worry about the whole tampered relocked thing, several of my family memebers have returned their rezound with the relocked on and we have yet to hear from Verizon about it.
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For me the battery life is worse. But once we get some decent custom kernels that may change.
mighty_markus12 said:
For me the battery life is worse. But once we get some decent custom kernels that may change.
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I have amazing battery life on my Rez. Clocked @ 1.76ghz heavy/moderate usage w/ the extended battery 24 hours and 33% left to go.
I get nothing but stellar battery life on my Rezound. And I was skeptical about picking up an LTE device at first, but my mind has been changed after having the phone for a month. I'm loving it.
zetsumeikuro said:
I have amazing battery life on my Rez. Clocked @ 1.76ghz heavy/moderate usage w/ the extended battery 24 hours and 33% left to go.
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ive never gone anything more than 12-14hrs. my phone must be defective then.
mighty_markus12 said:
ive never gone anything more than 12-14hrs. my phone must be defective then.
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Extended battery or standard?
mighty_markus12 said:
ive never gone anything more than 12-14hrs. my phone must be defective then.
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If this is on the standard battery, it's right on par with what it should be. Comparing the Rezound to the measly resolution of the tbolt is apples to oranges.
Battery life is not bad on the rez given the great 4G signal and the powerful CPU/GPU. Then again it really depends on how soon we get S-Off for the rez to be on par with the TBolt in terms of customization.
Howdy.. I just received my Amaze 4G from T-mobile two days ago (Free with contract.. caught the sale right before it ended!)
In love with the phone, it's my first Android phone.. and I really want to upgrade to ICS.. but there's a couple of things holding me back
I've noticed benchmark scores have decreased considerably for people in ICS.. is this simply a lack of optimization for given benchmarks or something else? How is real world performance compared to GB?
If I upgrade to ICS and wanted to go back to GB for whatever reason, is it possible without hassle? (I'm stock, s-on, locked bootloader) This is a major one for me.. I'd like the assurance I can go back if there's something I don't like about it.
Will upgrading to ICS effect my warrenty or insurance policy? I'm afraid that if I upgrade to ICS i'll immediately have a problem with my phone and my warrenty will be void for upgrading..
And last but not least.. will upgrading to ICS ruin my ability to receive OTA updates? When ICS is officially released, will I still get the updates or will I have to revert to GB and then receive the upgrade (See question about reverting to GB.. is that possible easily?)
Sorry about all the questions! I've been doing as much reading as I can, but these are the questions I still find myself asking every time I'm about to try and flash ICS..... thanks guys for any information.
ericdjobs said:
Howdy.. I just received my Amaze 4G from T-mobile two days ago (Free with contract.. caught the sale right before it ended!)
In love with the phone, it's my first Android phone.. and I really want to upgrade to ICS.. but there's a couple of things holding me back
I've noticed benchmark scores have decreased considerably for people in ICS.. is this simply a lack of optimization for given benchmarks or something else? How is real world performance compared to GB?
If I upgrade to ICS and wanted to go back to GB for whatever reason, is it possible without hassle? (I'm stock, s-on, locked bootloader) This is a major one for me.. I'd like the assurance I can go back if there's something I don't like about it.
Will upgrading to ICS effect my warrenty or insurance policy? I'm afraid that if I upgrade to ICS i'll immediately have a problem with my phone and my warrenty will be void for upgrading..
And last but not least.. will upgrading to ICS ruin my ability to receive OTA updates? When ICS is officially released, will I still get the updates or will I have to revert to GB and then receive the upgrade (See question about reverting to GB.. is that possible easily?)
Sorry about all the questions! I've been doing as much reading as I can, but these are the questions I still find myself asking every time I'm about to try and flash ICS..... thanks guys for any information.
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Performance-wise, ICS is way smoother than any GB ROM I've tried on the Amaze by far. I never look at benchmark scores because I think they're bogus half the time.
Downgrading back to GB shouldn't be a problem since a lot of people are saying that the ICS radios are backwards compatible with GB ROMs, which is pretty convenient.
I believe unlocking bootloader will void your warranty but if a hardware problem occurs (eg. screen has a dead pixel, etc), HTC may still honour the hardware warranty since it's unrelated to software, I'm not sure 100% sure about this though.
Regarding OTA updates, I wouldn't worry too much about those since the developers here are always releasing ROMs based off of the latest firmware updates for the phone for us to flash so in one form another you'll be able to get the latest and greatest firmware.
adslee said:
Performance-wise, ICS is way smoother than any GB ROM I've tried on the Amaze by far. I never look at benchmark scores because I think they're bogus half the time.
Downgrading back to GB shouldn't be a problem since a lot of people are saying that the ICS radios are backwards compatible with GB ROMs, which is pretty convenient.
I believe unlocking bootloader will void your warranty but if a hardware problem occurs (eg. screen has a dead pixel, etc), HTC may still honour the hardware warranty since it's unrelated to software, I'm not sure 100% sure about this though.
Regarding OTA updates, I wouldn't worry too much about those since the developers here are always releasing ROMs based off of the latest firmware updates for the phone for us to flash so in one form another you'll be able to get the latest and greatest firmware.
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Thanks for the reply! I wasn't planning on unlocking the bootloader.. I was just going to flash ICS with s-on and a locked bootloader. The major thing I worry about is that I see mixed reports about the new radio, some people having a major loss in quality/reception while others might ever report a gain! So I assume that the update to the radio isn't reverted if I were to downgrade to a GB ROM if ICS did not work out for me?
And I'm also assuming that if I do upgrade to ICS, that I would be forced to unlock the bootloader if I wished to downgrade back to GB?
Ah I'm so torn haha.. brand new phone and I love it so I'm a little weary with a "dont try to fix what aint broke" mentality...
my wifi is slightly better after upgrading, and signal is noticeably stronger.
After upgrading firmware I ran fourth bar fine, so going back shouldn't be a problem.
you shouldn't have any issues once you make the switch. If you're worried just waitt for ota
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I was right there with you, ericdjobs.
I decided to upgrade due to battery issues.
Custom ROM's that are debloated and tweaked do help, but the warranty concerns and OTA issues do bother me, too.
Now that OTA is out, did you wait long enough to stay stock and locked?
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Once you upgrade to ICS, you cannot downgrade back to GB unless you S-Off your device, just wanted to point that out, proceed with your discussion now.
I'm on the fence here guys and need some either reassurance or confirmation of my fears/concerns.
Let me start by saying i'm borderline pissed off that I pay for a Sprint contract and yet VM is getting ICS possibly far before Sprints EVO 3d...This is a large driving force behind wanting to root.
So anyways here are my concerns..
-It's a VM build...does this cause adverse affects?? Lower priority?? ETC??
-I Roam most of the time and use a custom PRL. Is this possible with the ICS ROMS??
-I want EVERYTHING to work still...I do not want to comprimise things not working for ICS. I'm not including app incompatibility here...more or less saying everything working that would work if we had an official ICS release.
Additional questions..not really concerns..
-Is there any roms currently with Sense 4.0 that are fully functional as This would be nice considering we'll never see it officially.
-Can I get better performance??
Lastly, If I do decide to root where do I start...I see tutorials but they say from hboot such and such etc..however I have no idea what I have on my phone to know what tutorial to use...I just got it 2 months ago, and i've fully OTA updated it. I came from an optimus v to sprint evo 3d...I had my optimus rooted and had custom roms on it.
I say Root, but I always root my phones.
You need to find out what hboot you are on, take back cover off, remove battery, put battery back in, cover back on, then hold power and down volume rocker. You will get to a white screen and it will tell you which hboot you have. Since you say you have OTA updated, you are likely on 1.5.
You should go through the downgrade process to get you on 1.4 which will allow full s-off and be the simplest route for flashing firmware/ROM's.
I have been using the VM ICS leaks since they came out and the Dev's did their
thing on them and I haven't had anything not work. I am using MeanROM ICS and Mike keeps it updated pretty regularly.
Whatever you do, do not install the VM firmware file you may see posted. It is unnecessary and will likely cause issues.
There are no ROM's that have fully working Sense 4.0 + ICS + all other items(3D Wimax).
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-I want EVERYTHING to work still...I do not want to comprimise things not working for ICS.
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If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
zcink said:
If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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I do recommend you root. The custom roms beat the snot out of the stock.
As long as you use a Sense based ics Rom, everything works. I take 3d pics and video and just watched a 3d YouTube video just to check.
While they are not yet as refined as the Gb roms, everything works.
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Two biggest benefits of rooting regardless of the phone:
1) Full system backups in recovery.
2) The ability to remove all carrier crapware.
Now, there are several other benefits, such as upgrading to more updated ROMs that will eventually not be available for this phone (it will never officially receive Android 5.0 or Sense 4.0).
As for fully functional, I'm running the Booster Shot port with Sense 3.6. Silky smooth and fully functional, including 3D.
If you choose to root, fully read and understand the process so you don't brick your phone. Get your HBOOT versions (mentioned in a previous post in this thread) and root accordingly.
Definitely boost in performance even if you don't go with ICS. I compared my rooted 3d with my roomates 3d and my 3d runs so much faster it seems like it isn't even the same phone.
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I would recommend root, since you have a lot of options to choose different ROMs.
No Sense 4.0 ROM is working correctly. There are issues with 3d and with call drops, what is more important I think Anyway, most ROMs using Sense 3.6 run ok.
I also have the benefit of having daily contact with my rooted evo vs my girlfriends not rooted evo... Mine phone is way faster at everything.... Even before I went to meanrom ics....
The difference is night vs day...
If you really want to see the performance of your phone, the way it should be most definetly Root it.
I haven't done it myself but I'm 100% positive google will find you a list of benefits from obtaining root...
And btw even tho its a little weird and in beta my favorite thing about ics is google chrome... It's just an awesome phone browser, just what stands out in my mind atm.. ask me tomorrow and ill prolly say something different.
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If your on the fence, don't do it. If your going to commit to modding your phone, you have to know 100% what you're up against. For most, that's bricking your phone in a certain way so you can downgrade it. Than getting the hboot down through a tool in a LINUX distro. Than going through ruu than using revolutionary. And lastly flashing a recovery. It's not difficult
As long as you know what you are up against.
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My two cents:
Root it.
Backup your stock system, flash an ICS rom. If you don't like it, simply restore back to the original setting. You can still add tweaks and goodies not available to the non-rooted.
The beauty of being rooted is it's yours, totally yours, too make how you want it.
Root, root, root!
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another vote for root.
zcink said:
If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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What are you talking about? 3D works fully and smoothly (Even better than Gingerbread)
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exactly...every sense based rom is fully functional with 3d also...this is a one way street to root....root...backup your rom...flash...any chance you don't like you can always return to your previous state...unrooted...since there are no drawbacks except the fact that you have to setup all over again at a new rom, can't see a reason not to....with these guys here after all it's child play to root and to reverse it so no worries...
Jimlarck said:
What are you talking about? 3D works fully and smoothly (Even better than Gingerbread)
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I think you are correct on Sprint roms, however that's not what I'm reading on GSM roms. I'm constantly reading and paying attention to the bugs people complain about.
When I'm confident that everything works, I will definitely flash a ICS rom.
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OP's original question to root or not to root. That is the question.
I say YES! Root by all means. Because he is on Sprint CDMA network. Lots of good roms there. By all means root and enjoy the phone.
Absolutely!
zcink said:
I think you are correct on Sprint roms, however that's not what I'm reading on GSM roms. I'm constantly reading and paying attention to the bugs people complain about.
When I'm confident that everything works, I will definitely flash a ICS rom.
to add:
OP's original question to root or not to root. That is the question.
I say YES! Root by all means. Because he is on Sprint CDMA network. Lots of good roms there. By all means root and enjoy the phone.
Absolutely!
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Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm only on sprint roms.
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Thanks for all the replies, I'm still debating this though mainly because i'm wondering if there would be benifit to waiting till the official spring ics comes and then letting devs release some roms based on that one instead of the virgin mobile one.
I'm thinking then we could flash the sprint firmware and possibly that updated firmware would be a plus, to performance.
Also...I see that I would likely have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. Is there a performance/feature hit in doing so?
I guess its not really a question of if I do it anymore but when...before or after official sprint ics OTA.
swilllx2p said:
Also...I see that I would likely have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. Is there a performance/feature hit in doing so?
I guess its not really a question of if I do it anymore but when...before or after official sprint ics OTA.
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No performance hit as far as I can tell. With the custom roms, my performance has vastly improved.
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Ok, so I just checked and I'm on hboot 1.5. Fully stock, fully updated as stated. Can someone point me to the threads and steps I need to take to do this?
Edit: I'm only asking for verification on steps/threads to use as I do not want to mess up and use an outdated tutorial or something and f up my phone. I just want to take every precaution to ensure I do not end up with a brick, and I follow the exact steps Needed for my situation. Not trying to make anyone angry that I'm asking for something I could search for...I just trust you guys to point me to where i need to be more than i do myself searching the correct tutorial for my situation.
Also when on the optimus v i used clockwork mod recovery...I'm assuming this isn't the recovery to use for this phone? And also this five minute wait to edit my post is frustrationg >< lol.
All you need to do is go into the development threads and read. I'm 59 years old for Christ sake, and figured out how to root my phone by reading the first few "stickied" posts. Took all of 15 minutes to get hboot 1.5 removed and hboot 1.4 with s-off installed.
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Well yeah, Not to flame you but the amount of time you've been thinking about doing it and getting advise if you should or not, I would think you'd be doing some reading on how to do it.
If you get stuck, there's plenty of people to help you out.
Just make sure you know enough first so you are confident in doing it.