I'm one of those people that ended up with an incredibly reliable Thunderbolt. It hardly ever crashes, fixed GPS, Liquid rom, extended battery/case from Trident. It's a very reliable phone, very quick.
But I do want something newer, something faster.
Now with the Thunderbolt, I could S=off -> S=on and send it back no problem.
With the Rezound, it appears it's not that simple. I've seen that rooting and unrooting leads to "TAMPERED" being tagged. Has anyone exchanged one under warranty and had any issues?
How "moddable" is this phone without risking the Tampered tag. If I want to use custom roms and over-clock the CPU, is it still possible?
Has anyone moved from a rooted, Liquid flashed reliable Thunderbolt to a Rezound that can share their experience? Thanks guys! I considered the Nexus but I don't know how Google could mess up their selection on a manufacturer that bad. The best Nexus phone so far was HTC branded and the worst Android devices of the new era have been Samsung branded. So who do we pick for the Verizon Nexus? Oh yeah let's go with Samsung, GREAT choice.
its not as close to moding as the tbolt, I also used both.
Scot makes phenomenal roms I only use his roms, but there are other amazing developers , so there is no lack of great devs for this phone.
HOWEVER :
Coming fro the tbolt with cm7 ( and all its derivatives) the sad truth is ( imho) that my tbolt was and still is faster than my rezound with 0 Lag and incredible signal with battery life.
Here is why I think thats the case: The mere sizes of the rom should tell you something , cm with gapps never really exceed 150 mb. There is not a single rom out there not ( ics or gb sensed and desensed ) that is less than 300 for the rezound
Also its all wishful thinking with the s-off , devs have made great accomplishments but there is no solid hard proof that it will be release to the masses as of yet.
S-off has amazing benifits. On the tbolt i can flash 4 different roms in one day trying to find one that i like , between sense, senseless, cm or actually towards the end miui. Nandroid restore was an absolute breeze if something went wrong ( such as the infamous gps issue ).
Not so much with the rezound, nandroid restore is really reserved for the same class of roms ( meaning if you nandroid restore a gb from ics , you have to go through a lot of hoops and read endless pages of forums. )
The thunderbolt RIL accomplishment is also worth its weight in gold, I dont really see that department being touched right now.
I tried liquid and I loved dhackers shoftao5p, his work was simply GOLD. you will NOT get the same smoothness with the rezound specially if you have another launcher on top ( Go launcher is my favorite, and its terrible on the rezound, on both ics, and gb . But it was liquid smooth on the tbolt ). You will not get all the beautiful mods liquid and cm had , although we are getting there on the mods.
The rezound is an awesome phone bec whats underneath the hood, but i think of it this way, if you have an awesome engine and but so so transmission and tires , you wont really get the full potential. I dont that full potential being really unlocked until the RIL and the s-ff are fully accomplished. The sad reality is that by the time all of this is accomplished HTC would probably have a newer phone with jelly bean on it.
I got the rezound bec like you, i wanted the next big thing, and i saw the hardware and I was so under the impression that it will crush my tbolt flat . And the fact that its the only phone beside the tbolt that does data and calls simultaneously on 3g ( Note: dont let other ppl fool you by telling you any 4g phone can do that, yes they can but only in 4g or wifi, unlike the tbolt or rezound).
Also the rezound graphics and camera are beyond imagination , but to me speed , battery life and signal are the most imp factors and even though they have comparable signals, my super tweaked tbolt had jaw dropping battery life and speed . It handled whatever launcher whatever game or video like a beast, and it stayed at a cool 29 degrees on the hottest summer day
if your into super tweaking your device and making every little inch of your phone work for you the way you want it , then stick with the thunderbolt for the moment and keep a watchful eyes.
and the s-off topic and cm are very sensitive, but hey, whats another forum on which ppl will cuss me out on calling it for what it is
Until we get S-Off (which appears it may be coming soon), you have to unlock the phone to root it and it's not possible to return it to a Locked stated (it will say Re-Locked)
The Tampered tag came with the leaked firmware updates, after installing those and flashing a custom recovery, you'll get Tampered.
You can unlock it and run the latest ICS roms using a patch vs flashing the latest firmware.
There have been plenty of people who claim they returned a Re-Locked phone back without issue. We do have one user though who got charged for his phone a few months later, they have not been able to get a solid answer out of Verizon as to why the charge.
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Not so much with the rezound, nandroid restore is really reserved for the same class of roms ( meaning if you nandroid restore a gb from ics , you have to go through a lot of hoops and read endless pages of forums. )
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This can be summed up with two issues.
1) Nandroid can't restore kernels because we don't have S-Off. You need to flash it manually or use the Nandroid Helper script to restore a kernel. If and when we get S-Off this will be a non issue.
2) The latest firmware changes the SD card mount points. If you have the latest firmware installed and want to switch to a rom not based on the latest leak, you need to flash a script to fix the SD mount points. With most of the latest ICS roms now supporting the older firmware, I would hold off installing it til we have an official update.
it's a nice phone but the battery life blows worse than the tbolt.
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it's a nice phone but the battery life blows worse than the tbolt.
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The contrary is true for me. I get waaaaaaaay better battery life on my rezound. The thunderbolt is great. But the rezound is better. They guy above that said the rezound isn't as smooth doesn't know what he's talking about. The rezound is lightyears ahead smoother. It could just be golauncher that he has problems with for one simple reason, the thunderbolt has a 480x800 screen, the rezound has a 1280x720 display, that launcher is obviously not optimized to work on that rez so it pits a heavier load on the rezound trying to get it to function properly. I've been using Apex launcher and it has been buttery smooth.
All the rezound needs is aosp, s-off would be nice but it isn't really nessisary.
Don't worry about the whole tampered relocked thing, several of my family memebers have returned their rezound with the relocked on and we have yet to hear from Verizon about it.
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The contrary is true for me. I get waaaaaaaay better battery life on my rezound. The thunderbolt is great. But the rezound is better. They guy above that said the rezound isn't as smooth doesn't know what he's talking about. The rezound is lightyears ahead smoother. It could just be golauncher that he has problems with for one simple reason, the thunderbolt has a 480x800 screen, the rezound has a 1280x720 display, that launcher is obviously not optimized to work on that rez so it pits a heavier load on the rezound trying to get it to function properly. I've been using Apex launcher and it has been buttery smooth.
All the rezound needs is aosp, s-off would be nice but it isn't really nessisary.
Don't worry about the whole tampered relocked thing, several of my family memebers have returned their rezound with the relocked on and we have yet to hear from Verizon about it.
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For me the battery life is worse. But once we get some decent custom kernels that may change.
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For me the battery life is worse. But once we get some decent custom kernels that may change.
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I have amazing battery life on my Rez. Clocked @ 1.76ghz heavy/moderate usage w/ the extended battery 24 hours and 33% left to go.
I get nothing but stellar battery life on my Rezound. And I was skeptical about picking up an LTE device at first, but my mind has been changed after having the phone for a month. I'm loving it.
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I have amazing battery life on my Rez. Clocked @ 1.76ghz heavy/moderate usage w/ the extended battery 24 hours and 33% left to go.
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ive never gone anything more than 12-14hrs. my phone must be defective then.
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ive never gone anything more than 12-14hrs. my phone must be defective then.
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Extended battery or standard?
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ive never gone anything more than 12-14hrs. my phone must be defective then.
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If this is on the standard battery, it's right on par with what it should be. Comparing the Rezound to the measly resolution of the tbolt is apples to oranges.
Battery life is not bad on the rez given the great 4G signal and the powerful CPU/GPU. Then again it really depends on how soon we get S-Off for the rez to be on par with the TBolt in terms of customization.
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With all of this going down recently about Rooted users being cracked upon, I want to make sure my next phone does not require root in order to improve it significantly. (Unlike my Fascinate which is a great phone, only after the developers have worked on issues).
How is the unrooted TB experience?
I didn't root my TB for about 3 days and I came from a rooted DX. It feels faster and smoother than a DX with the OE rom over clocked and is just as snappy as the blur-less rom i was running also. I was pleasantly surprised by the out of the box experienced of the TB and I am an ASOP experienced fan.
I was in no rush to root my phone. I only did it out of habit and was curious. I loved my phone when I first got it. Obviously rooting made me love it more but still a great experience. Nothing was broken or slow. Smoothest screen transition I've seen on a phone. I don't even mind HTC Sense (still prefer ASOP, but miles better than TouchWiz and Blur).
Mine is rooted and I don't think it's currently needed. The ROMs that are currently out aren't the coolest (meaning bug free and full featured) IMO. I did it for the freedom when a really good ROM/kernel is out.
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I don't even mind HTC Sense (still prefer ASOP, but miles better than TouchWiz and Blur).
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I agree, even the gingerbread Blur isn't as good as this. I my self noticed that the Bloated up OEM rom was just as fast for me as the De-bloats also
I need to get me some popcorn
Is there a "crack down"??? Seems to be business as usual.
To me....ThunderBolt is a beast with or without root. I ran it for a week before I rooted it and I though everything I had it and could NOT make it stall.
Tip of the hat to HTC and Verizon (for LTE) for this device in my hands. Best Android experience I have EVER had... I have had them ALL!!
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Yeah the new snapdragon is smooth as silk. Gameing isnt bad eather. Htc phones always seem the most stable!
I agree with everyone above. I came from a DX overclocked @ 1.36ghz and this thing immediately felt faster than my X. I rooted it because I wanted to be ready for the Rubix releases since that's what I was running on the X. Can't say I'm disappointed at all in that decision. Rooted or unrooted the thing is still a beast. The extra 256 megs of ram over the X and the next Gen snapdragon really make the difference. And a decent gpu doesn't hurt the mix either.
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The thunderbolt is a great phone un rooted. Faster than a stock Droid x and a tad faster than an oc'd and rom'd dx.
I rooted my thunderbolt because its mine and I hate clutter.
If Verizon would not pack the phones full of junk I probably wouldn't root.
The HTC skins allow the user to get their themes. The launchers give you the feel. The bolt is a good stock phone.
I like plain and simple, functional fast and stable is the best reason to root.
I tan rubix on my dx and running drod and b16 boLTEd now.
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I'm loving my un-rooted stock 3G Thunderbolt... it's miles ahead of my last device. I think my head will explode with root and 4G.
My phone is stock I'm gonna wait and see how 2.3 ota goes before I root. I upgraded from eris and this phone is 1000 times faster than that so I am perfect waiting.
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My phone is stock I'm gonna wait and see how 2.3 ota goes before I root. I upgraded from eris and this phone is 1000 times faster than that so I am perfect waiting.
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I've had the Original I-Phone since the day it came out so I just wanted to upgrade. So, I finally did it when "The next big Deal" happened. So, Now I have my Thunderbolt, unrooted and happy with my decision. It's been 4 years since I got a new phone. I think I was due...
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My phone is stock I'm gonna wait and see how 2.3 ota goes before I root. I upgraded from eris and this phone is 1000 times faster than that so I am perfect waiting.
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Or... You can root it and have that OTA when it leaks out 2 weeks before they push it.
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Thunderbolt being my first Android phone, I have nothing to compare it to. It kicked ass the day I got it, and it kicks even more ass rooted.
I really don't think there is a critical need to root. I really cant tell the difference between the two in speed except maybe in quadrant scores. Unrooted phone is very fast and smooth.
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With all of this going down recently about Rooted users being cracked upon, I want to make sure my next phone does not require root in order to improve it significantly. (Unlike my Fascinate which is a great phone, only after the developers have worked on issues).
How is the unrooted TB experience?
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Root is different than flashing a ROM... There are no rules against rooting, those companies are just trying to stop non-approved software on their networks (even though those rumors are just that, rumors).
Root and freezing apps can't be tracked anyway....
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So what's the overall verdict from those of you who are OBJECTIVE about your Thunderbolts? I.E., don't tell me about the personal preference things you like or dislike but overall thoughts on the device itself.
I'm currently using a Galaxy S (Vibrant) that I've had from it's original release date. Other than the crap GPS, I love the device. However, with AT&T's impending takeover of T-Mobile, staying simply isn't an option. Sprint has limited coverage (I travel quite a bit) so that makes Verizon my default option. I don't mind Verizon, and I've had a non-contract MiFi for over a year, it's just price that always pushed me away. Anyway, being a current customer with my MiFi I'm always getting those random spam mail offers via snail mail and the most recent is get a Thunderbolt $249 and unlimited mobile hotspot through May 15th.
I wasn't considering the Thunderbolt until seeing "Unlimited Mobile Hotspot". I currently use close to all 5GB's on my MiFi monthly along with another 3-4 on my Vibrant so data is a HUGE deal to me. I basically have a mobile office so I can eat up some data. Personally, I was holding out for a Dual Core with 768+ MB's of RAM but this definitely entices me. I don't live in an area with LTE, but it's coming, and with the future of mobile data pricing being unknown, I find myself wondering if I should "lock in" prices/features before the market becomes flooded with LTE devices.
Thoughts? Opinions?
My biggest beefs with my Vibrant are:
GPS
Battery Life (SAMOLED makes up for it and I can get 2 days out of a charge if I need to). I view most battery life issues as non-issues. People find themselves with a combo of bloatware and using crap apps that suck the life out of their phones
Lag, even on custom ROM's from time to time
No Camera Flash
How's the speaker phone?
How's Bluetooth strength? Can you stick the TBolt in your pocket and have a conversation without your headset crackling?
More importantly, how accurate is the GPS?
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I really don't think there is a critical need to root. I really cant tell the difference between the two in speed except maybe in quadrant scores. Unrooted phone is very fast and smooth.
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App options mainly. There are plenty of really cool applications that require root access.
The "Crack down" does not exist. It is a bullsh*t lie that some troll posted on here and caused everyone to panic. Root the SOB and enjoy.
Hello forum,
I've read about 9 hrs worth of info on here in 2 days. I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I will try and keep this short, I might fail.
I came from an org d1 with cm7, great phone. Its old hardware and I was due for an upgrade.
I just got the HTC Thunderbolt 2 days ago. I'm not very impressed with it AT ALL. I realllllly hate the HTC SENSE gui. I've never liked HTC to begin with. But the TB had 4g (which I just found out I wont get untill 2013) and a FF Camera. I don't really care about 4G anymore, any good crap I do over WiFi anyways. As far as the FF Camera, it was fun, im over it.
I have 14 days (12) to change my mind and was told I can switch phones. I really wanted the X2 in the first place, but I went with the TB. What I really want is just a beast phone that can last 2 years with upcoming tech. Everyone I hear talking about the dual core stuff says its over rated because no OS or APPs use it yet. I've been watching some Videos on the X2 and Im liking it more.
What I wonder is if its going to have any development? The HTC TB already has tons of custom ROMs and CM7 is about there. Do you guys think the X2 will get any attention? Will there be custom ROMs? I really dont like MOTOBLUR but I would be able to put up with it for 6 months over the sense.
How is the battery? Without 4G even turned on I cant even get a full day off this TB.
Is it pretty smooth and fast? I'm a little worried about the RAM .... 512 vs 768? I mean coming from the D1 512 should be fine..... but does it feel smooth?
Are there ways right now (I know you can root) to debloat it and take off MOTOBLUR ? I really just want a clean AOSP, but I'm very willing to wait for development. I just wonder if the X2 will get any attention.
Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Sorry so long.
If you want custom roms then stick with the Thunderbolt. Until the Motorola bootloader gets unlocked you won't be able to fully flash a custom rom.
Also the X2 does not have MOTOBLUR on it. And yes it is possible to root using gingerbreak and remove any bloatware.
I just got my X2 yesterday and the UI seems to be a lot smoother with the dual core processor compared to my old X. If you don't get 4G coverage then I would definitely go with the X2. Also in my experience Motorola phones tend to have better battery life over HTC.
The X2 does have MOTOBLUR but it is the updated version they use normally with gingerbread which is not as bad as the version they had before.
As for development like the previous poster said, until Motorola unlocks the bootloader and an sbf is found/created. ROMs are out of the question at the moment..
Personally I came from the TB and although the TB had all the custom ROMs th X2 has made me happy with the smooth UI, after some tweaking, and the battery life is alot better.
It's going to be a trade-off. If you like to root/ mod you're going to have to wait on the X2 for a while. I read they just cracked the Droid X for CM 7, so there's hope but no idea on when we might have a full range of option for the X2.
On the other hand, the DX2 works great out of the box and my only major complaint is no Gingerbread yet. I've used both and, given the TB's battery life sucks and I'm not around a 4G area at work or home and won't be for a while, the X2 is the better option in my opinion. The TB is not a bad phone over all, but without the 4G it's not a compelling device to need right now IMO.
I'd recommend you go with the X2 and wait until 4G LTE is both widespread and all the bugs are worked out in the system.
I've tried all of Verizon's 4G phones within my 14 day return period. (I'm paying full price, so I didn't just want to settle with playing with a floor model for a few minutes to make a decision.) Anyway, it was something about each one that made me not want to keep them. (Although I saw the Charge received an update that made the phone 2-3 times better from what I'm reading from users across different forms.) But I settled with the DX2. Far better signal than any of the others I had. Much better battery life. Better build quality by far. As smooth as the Thunderbolt, even with 512 of RAM. And it has the Dual Core processors, which will eventually be beneficial once more phones get them and more developers start working around them, software and app wise. I get 4G in my area in 2 months and I still choose to go with a 3G phone, because a page loading a few seconds faster on 4G than mine does on 3G, has absolutely no importance in my life. I think ffc's are kind of overrated right now, but will be the norm in the future when almost everyone has a phone with a camera on it. We can only hope Motorola will unlock the bootloader. I doubt Verizon would approve of that, but still, the original Droid X received some pretty good attention from dev's. As you can see, it was thought of enough that someone worked hard to get CM7 on there. So the dev attention will be there.
Thanks for all your help guys..... still a tough choice...
But since the X2 has a "locked bootloader" that means there will never be custom ROMs untill MOTO themselfs release an update to unlock it or what? Did the ORG droid X have a locked bootloader? Wasnt there custom roms on it?
I had a thunderbolt but the battery life was just to bad for me to keep it when i was near stl and had 4g it went from 100% to 25 in no time flat so i couldnt handle that. the droid x2 with all the bloat ware ran decently fast but once u take off bloat ware its great phone with much better battery but if you want 4g id say go with lg revolution it seems to be better i only played with in store but i liked it also
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Thanks for all your help guys..... still a tough choice...
But since the X2 has a "locked bootloader" that means there will never be custom ROMs untill MOTO themselfs release an update to unlock it or what? Did the ORG droid X have a locked bootloader? Wasnt there custom roms on it?
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No, Yes and Yes. The bootloader on the original X is still locked. That just means that you don't have complete control over the kernel. Custom roms can certainly still be added once root is established. Also, if anybody's been watching the blogs, CM7 has been release for the original X. It's a bit of backwards magic of loading overtop and after the original kernel, but it's reported to be working great.
Indeed, I'm really keeping my fingers crossed that CM7 on the DX means we're in line for it on the X2!
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Haha, me and you are both in the same place
I'm leaning towards returning the X2 and getting the Tbolt, but the extra $135 I'll have to pay is making me unsure..since I have no income.
The good thing is, is that I read earlier today that the new Nexus phone is supposed to have a LTE radio. (Verizon maybe?!) Either that or the Galaxy S 2..both seem like good choices.
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Haha, me and you are both in the same place
I'm leaning towards returning the X2 and getting the Tbolt, but the extra $135 I'll have to pay is making me unsure..since I have no income.
The good thing is, is that I read earlier today that the new Nexus phone is supposed to have a LTE radio. (Verizon maybe?!) Either that or the Galaxy S 2..both seem like good choices.
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Have you played around with a charge at all?
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Have you played around with a charge at all?
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I would, but I can't afford $300 for a phone .. I mean after trading in my X2, I'd have to pay like $150 dollars, unless its "lowest promotional price" is less than $299.
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I would, but I can't afford $300 for a phone .. I mean after trading in my X2, I'd have to pay like $150 dollars, unless its "lowest promotional price" is less than $299.
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Besides, the Charge is still a single core phone.
OMG ! Some of you people are so picky! If I could have my X2's babies I would! I love this phone and I'm in the same situation as the OP. I won't get 4G til around until 2013 and I'll be eligible for an upgrade in January 2013. By then, I'm hoping to get whatever new multi-core, 4G, 3D display, FFC phone they have because I'm sure all of that will be more of a standard *AND* hopefully there will be better battery life for those kinds of features. Until then, gogo Droid X2!
FFC isn't all that great without 4G anyway and even if it was great on 3G, I still don't see myself using it until video calling becomes much more popular. I don't even know anyone else with an FFC for video calling, so how useful is that?? You gotta ask yourself: Who do I know with FFCs? and: Are we really gonna video chat a lot? Unless you're a hardcore SKYPEr or you are on business trips away from your wife and kids a lot, why not just stick to the casual video chatting you may or may not do on your PC?
Minus the custom ROM this is still a great phone and handsdown a top choice if you're gonna be outside the 4G bubbles for a while! Just sayin'.
You won't see any custom development until both an SBF file and the first update to the phone release. For the record, I'm quite surprised neither have leaked yet. Usually the SBF leaks in the first week or two and there is an update within the first couple weeks to fix stability issues. The X2 has so many stability issues that I think they're just going to push GB to the device rather than try to fix all the Froyo problems. That being said, it could still be a while before we see GB. I also wouldn't own this phone without being willing to root it. Too unstable without being able to fix the memory allocation problems.
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Besides, the Charge is still a single core phone.
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That's a good point. Now that I think about it, a single core phone isnt worth $300 dollars , even if it has 4G... I just rooted my X2, and now I going to try to uninstall the bloat, but it already feels faster.
lol, i have a brand spankin new dx2 i am willing to trade for a tbolt!!
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OMG ! Some of you people are so picky! If I could have my X2's babies I would!
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I'll second the comment that nearly all the VZW phones involve compromises of some sort. The compromises on the X2 are the lack of 4G, the not-quite-top-tier screen, and the fact that we might not see custom ROMs for a very long time.
That said, my phone is my lifeline, and the X2 meets my need for good build quality, good reception, a loud speaker (I'm a little hard at hearing), and that can get me into and out of my work-related apps quickly.
I feel like I got a good PHONE that's solid, loud, reliable, and pretty quick. Good enough for me for now. If I get Cryogen on it, then all the better, but it won't kill it for me.
Chris
I had the TB and it was a POS. Bad gps, light leaks, horrible battery, terrible speaker, kickstand started peeling after a month. I'm not saying my DX2 is perfect, but it kicks the TB's ass. Love my dual core monster.
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Im coming from the HTC evo from sprint. Im on my way over to Verizon. Im interested in both the Rezound and the nexus...
Is there a reason to choose the REzound over the nexus? It doesnt seem like the Rezound has full root/s-off etc etc right? Is it a matter of time, or do they have this thing locked down?
Rezound have radio lock thats all
Rezound is faster and has alotttt stronger signal. Basically, HTC owns samsung
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I was all about the nexus but after being burned so often by buying and trying to justify my purchase waited and was about to buy a rezound till I got it as a replacement and its awesome. I love this phone so far. Great camera, It's really quick, screen is amazing and its the perfect size
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I came from the EVO as well. It was this or nexus, I chose this for the better camera and beats, which I can't go without now. Plus the free headphones. Only selling point of the nexus is ics but a senseless Rom gives a close experience which should get better in time. Plus sense 3.6 is cool and miui is in progress as well as sense 4.0
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Came from Evo 4G on Sprint as well. Went through 2 Nexus's before giving up and getting the Rezound. Signal and call quality on the Nexus was horrendous. I would hear about every third word the caller was saying which made for some pretty interesting conversations.
The ONLY advantage to the Nexus is the ease of "tweaking" it but I un-locked, flashed a recovery, and flashed a rooted ICS Rom on my Rezound in about 10 minutes.
Get the Rezound ... NO BRAINER
IMHO
Edit: BTW ... The return rate of the Nexus is upwards of 20% according to my Verizon Rep. She told me she wished they would pull it off the market.
I came on over from the Evo 3d and I love the Rezound and coverage so much I've yet to root it. This phone has almost cured my flashism. Though I'm on vacation this week, I might get in on the rooting and madness on this side of town soon.
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Thanks guys.. Im hesistant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.
Rezound vs GNex
I poured over this decision back in December. I opted for the rezound because it has an sd card slot and the GNex doesn't. The camera and processor are also superior. I have mine OC's to 1.8 GHz. It is saddled with s-on though. HTC allows users to unlock the bootloader but we cannot flash radios and kernels directly via recovery. It must be done in the bootloader or via fastboot. Not the end of the world but not as easy as an s-off device. This nut seems to be a tough one to crack too. A few devs have been at it since December but no joy
Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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What do you mean by that?
editeD: lolwut I got it now haha fail.
Look, I'm not expert by any means, but I feel I need to chime in. I have owned both phones. The Nexus was probably the sweetest phone I thought I ever had.. Everything seemed to work flawlessly. After a few days I constantly had problems with the Battery, Signal strength and SOUND. Let me explain. ICS was awesome IMO. It worked great and was a really nice change. But that was the only thing that was nice on it. The roms that are coming out now for the Rezound by far make this the best phone I've ever owned. Speed, picture, ICS and I personally like Sense. SO for me to give anyone advice it would easily be GO REZOUND!!
BTW.. Ask this question in the Nexus forum, and I guarantee you'll get a different response. So basically, you need to go in the store, and give yourself 20 minutes to mess around with both phones. Just keep in mind that Samsung has a reputation as having terrible radios. Be sure to listen to the sound on both. And take a look at the resolution and clarity.. A few youtube videos should do it for ya! ALSO, the fact that you get a nice set of ear phones.
I just got the rezound last week and love it. I'm coming from a sensation 4g this is a lot better phone than that is. Plus now we have an ics leak that your phone doesn't have to be rooted is sweet. And when the official ota drops you can still update
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Don't think. Just buy a rezound.
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I faced the same decision, and I went for the Rezound. The camera, reception, and overall build quality of this phone is better than that of the Nexus. I really don't like Sense, and that almost made me go for the Nexus, but software is upgradable and hardware isn't. I'm currently running a senseless ROM (XTreme's), which isn't AOSP, but it's close. It seems like there is being progress with ROMs completely lacking sense (MIUI is being worked on and apparently has RIL in-tact), and once CM9 gets its RIL issues fixed, my phone will feel complete. Even without that, I am very happy with this phone. The screen is amazing, even when compared to a Samsung device (Nexus). The battery life isn't great, but it is an LTE device... I never get signal drops, and I'm always on 4G.
okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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Not much. It makes it more difficult to flash kernels, but it is still relatively easy using adb or just your phone. You can't flash radios (well at least without being relocked), which I think is the major downside of s-off. Also, unlocking through the HTCDev method won't let you go back to complete factory stock (without the bootloader saying relocked), so if Verizon happened to check, they can see that you MAY have voided PARTS of your warranty (not a big deal).
hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
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hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
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It's really not that bad. Choose the phone you want to go with, but don't let that sway you too much. We may not have as many developers and ROMs as the Nexus, but we have some really great devs. And flashing ROMs and kernels really doesn't take noticeably longer without s-off, and becomes second nature
If you want stock ICS go Nexus.
If you want better screen, eventual Sense ICS (AOSP probably won't be possible until we can get s-off I think), and removable SD card go Rezound.
I've been a stock Android fan since the original Droid, but I've really grown to like Sense and Sense 4.0 looks even better. I do want an eventual AOSP.
Hey guys,
I'm interested in the Amaze and I've got some questions! I currently have a G2x and am pretty disgusted that it's reached its EOL status already even though it's more than capable of running ICS. Besides, the battery life was just awful (can't make it through 2 whole days) and I like the larger screen, better processor, and more RAM of the Amaze.
Since it's by HTC, I can assume that when Jelly Bean comes along, the Amaze will be receiving it officially, right? If not, has there been any history with getting the drivers that are needed to do unofficial development? There are lots of unofficial ICS ROMs for the G2x but there's no hardware acceleration and the battery life is terrible on those (can't even make it through a single day).
How's the battery life on the Amaze? How many days of use can you make it through without having to charge the device? As long as its like 1.5 days I'll be satisfied. I just don't want the "15% of battery remaining" messages if I just charged the device the night before.
It has a Micro SD card slot, right?
Would I need a screen protector or is the screen very scratch-resistant?
Any other problems I should know about that are common with the phone? Please be HONEST! lol.
Thanks, brosephs!
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Hey guys,
I'm interested in the Amaze and I've got some questions! I currently have a G2x and am pretty disgusted that it's reached its EOL status already even though it's more than capable of running ICS. Besides, the battery life was just awful (can't make it through 2 whole days) and I like the larger screen, better processor, and more RAM of the Amaze.
Since it's by HTC, I can assume that when Jelly Bean comes along, the Amaze will be receiving it officially, right? If not, has there been any history with getting the drivers that are needed to do unofficial development? There are lots of unofficial ICS ROMs for the G2x but there's no hardware acceleration and the battery life is terrible on those (can't even make it through a single day).
How's the battery life on the Amaze? How many days of use can you make it through without having to charge the device? As long as its like 1.5 days I'll be satisfied. I just don't want the "15% of battery remaining" messages if I just charged the device the night before.
It has a Micro SD card slot, right?
Would I need a screen protector or is the screen very scratch-resistant?
Any other problems I should know about that are common with the phone? Please be HONEST! lol.
Thanks, brosephs!
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I have no idea on the official update.
For me, 1.5 days is the maximum for battery life. But, it usually is enough for a day in general (except when I use lots of GPS and play games).... YMMV though (some people claimed they get the phone up for 2 days)
Yes, it has micro SD card slot.
Just go get a screen protector... Better be safe than sorry
Some common problems can be found in this forum... The most popular one is: light bleed!!!
Honestly though, the reason I get the Amaze is because I was able to get it for a relatively cheap price (compared to samsung s2, etc) and the better camera
First off and take it how you will, but most of the info you are looking is on the spec list.
Battery life on any large screen device won't last 1.5 days with heavy use.
Haven't these same questions been asked a billion times?
Cheers
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First off and take it how you will, but most of the info you are looking is on the spec list.
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Not really; I was confused about the SD card slot b/c I did see it on a few spec sheets but in a couple video reviews there was no mention of one and I didn't see one. Thanks for the battery info though.
Amaze and g2x have same frustrations. Wait for sgs3
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Amaze and g2x have same frustrations. Wait for sgs3
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Really? That's exactly the kind of answer I was hoping I wouldn't get. Oh well. At least you guys have ICS lol. I don't want to buy new so that I can save some money so the SGS3 is out of the question. It's basically either stick with the G2x until the prices on even better phones drop, or buy the Amaze and deal with the battery issue. I won't mind terribly if I don't get more than a day's use out of it. All I really do is check the news in the morning and text a few times throughout the day and then check some sites, browse some forums, and watch some videos in the evening. I think it'll be alright for that kind of use.
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Really? That's exactly the kind of answer I was hoping I wouldn't get. Oh well. At least you guys have ICS lol.
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Hardly... Sense 3.6... No AOSP, CM9, or Sense 4.0. No WiFi drivers. We've got a potentially great device with no support from HTC and is EOL with Tmobile. Stay away bro
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About the Amaze. WIFI calling issues, er05 common. Nice scratch resistant screen. The devs that take good care of us are working hard at picking up all the slack that Tmobile and HTC left with issue. I own one as my daily phone. using speedrom as my daily driver. Jellybean is not going to be on the Amaza as a OTA. We were lucky to get ICS. White one is out of stock and Tmobile told me they are done. I enjoy the phone cause of replaceable batt, ext. sd card, screen and camara.
Just one persons opinion
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Hardly... Sense 3.6... No AOSP, CM9, or Sense 4.0. No WiFi drivers. We've got a potentially great device with no support from HTC and is EOL with Tmobile. Stay away bro
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Aww. I want a relatively cheap, used phone with a 4.3" display, official ICS, and 1GB of RAM but i guess it doesn't exist!
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Aww. I want a relatively cheap, used phone with a 4.3" display, official ICS, and 1GB of RAM but i guess it doesn't exist!
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I think it's a great device, coming from the galaxy s2 and galaxy nexus, battery life isn't the best, but I get a days worth, the camera is pretty awesome, what I liked was the camera buttons, I wanted my sd card, reason why I jumped ship from the Nexus. So as I always say, it's all down to personal preference.
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Aww. I want a relatively cheap, used phone with a 4.3" display, official ICS, and 1GB of RAM but i guess it doesn't exist!
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Man... If that's all u want... The Amaze is prolly your best bet. Now is perfect time to buy. It's value is half of what it was when it was released and is twice as nice as it was then. I love the phone, its just already dated. If u can get it for
It's the best phone with its specs imho
I would stay saw too sorry to say. It is a great device and I still don't regret choosing this over the GS2. Great hardware for the future and the few ROMs and Devs that we are lucky to have are fantastic. But for a more "fun" device to tinker with... I would wait for something better or get a device that has global support and the devs to back it up.
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I would stay saw too sorry to say. It is a great device and I still don't regret choosing this over the GS2. Great hardware for the future and the few ROMs and Devs that we are lucky to have are fantastic. But for a more "fun" device to tinker with... I would wait for something better or get a device that has global support and the devs to back it up.
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Yeah I'm probably gonna wait unless for some freak reason the Amaze gets AOSP or CM9 or Sense 4.0. Thanks everyone!
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Yeah I'm probably gonna wait unless for some freak reason the Amaze gets AOSP or CM9 or Sense 4.0. Thanks everyone!
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SGS3... Keep it in front of mind
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Lol. It's gonna be at least a year until that falls into my price range for now. I'll stick with my G2x and MIUI for now. I just really wanted ICS and some spec bumps while i was at it. :/ Maybe I'll consider the HTC Sensation depending on how the 'lite' version of the Sense 4.0 ROM turns out.
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Lol. It's gonna be at least a year until that falls into my price range for now. I'll stick with my G2x and MIUI for now. I just really wanted ICS and some spec bumps while i was at it. :/ Maybe I'll consider the HTC Sensation depending on how the 'lite' version of the Sense 4.0 ROM turns out.
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Amaze>G2x and all it's bugs.
Take that from someone who's used both of them.
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Amaze>G2x and all it's bugs.
Take that from someone who's used both of them.
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I agree. However the better specs of the Amaze are not worth the additional $100 to me.
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I agree. However the better specs of the Amaze are not worth the additional $100 to me.
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As I said, personal preference, for me the following are worth getting the amaze for compared to the G2x:
Better Camera (wayyyyyyy better camera, this thing is amaaaazing, pun intended)
Faster processor and faster phone over all.
Better design and solid feel.
FM radio, unlike the g2x which has fm radio but tmobile had it disabled.
More internal memory 16GB>8GB, like really, that's obvious.
faster data speeds 42mbps>21mbps
Should I say more?
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Hey guys,
I'm interested in the Amaze and I've got some questions! I currently have a G2x and am pretty disgusted that it's reached its EOL status already even though it's more than capable of running ICS. Besides, the battery life was just awful (can't make it through 2 whole days) and I like the larger screen, better processor, and more RAM of the Amaze.
Since it's by HTC, I can assume that when Jelly Bean comes along, the Amaze will be receiving it officially, right? If not, has there been any history with getting the drivers that are needed to do unofficial development? There are lots of unofficial ICS ROMs for the G2x but there's no hardware acceleration and the battery life is terrible on those (can't even make it through a single day).
How's the battery life on the Amaze? How many days of use can you make it through without having to charge the device? As long as its like 1.5 days I'll be satisfied. I just don't want the "15% of battery remaining" messages if I just charged the device the night before.
It has a Micro SD card slot, right?
Would I need a screen protector or is the screen very scratch-resistant?
Any other problems I should know about that are common with the phone? Please be HONEST! lol.
Thanks, brosephs!
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With ICS battery isn't so bad, but you need to be aware that the large screen eats up the battery. I get 18 hours to 1 day, but I don't have a heavy usage. I carry a spare battery (two in fact, because my case has that kind of room), just in case. But I've seldom had to use it since ICS came out. With heavy use you may not get through the day on a single screen. But at least you can swap out batteries (unlike the One S).
The MicroSd card is under the battery cover, which is why it isn't seen from the outside.
The phone is the best I've owned. I'm using NRG ICS, which is snappy and really nice.
It will not get Jelly Bean from T-Mobile. Maybe XDA will be able to port it, but don't count on that.
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Not enough of a difference between the two imo, and I'll never buy another samsung again. I'll just hope there's some great phones in about a year from now
Hey guys, quick back story. I have been an Android user for several years. I've had phones such as the Incredible, Charge, Thunderbolt. Rezound, Razr Maxx and Galaxy S3. I just recently got rid of my Galaxy S3 for a HTC 8X Windows 8 Phone. I was getting tired of Android and constantly flashing ROM's. I was a flashaholic and had to get myself away lol.
Anyhow, after about a week with the 8X, I really like the phone and OS. However, I'm starting to miss Android. I miss the larger screens and wealth of apps.
Fast forward to today and I'm sitting here considering switching back. And if I do, I'm not getting another GS3 since I've already been there, done that so to speak. My frontrunner is the DNA.
I know nobody can make the decision for me, but I want opinions! Should I switch back, and would this be the phone to get?
I also have a couple questions before I jump back:
1. On my Rezound, homescreen scrolling lag in Sense absolutely killed that phone for me. I can't stand any type of scrolling lag and I'm very sensitive to it. Does that exist on the DNA, or is that a thing of the past? Please be honest.
2. I see that the phone can already be rooted, but does the future look bright in that department?
3. I think I know the answer, but I will throw it in there. For normal, moderate usage, is the battery life acceptable? On par with the GS3?
Thanks guys!
hey man. so yeah launcher lag was bad on rezound. however, in sense 4+, they tightened it up and it's very rigid and never lags.. ever. all 7 of my screens are full of widgets and icons and it's smooth.
battery I tend to get 12 hours with 3 hours screen on time. pretty much the same as my s3.
not sure about rooting yet since I'm still chillin on stock haha
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I'll answer #2 the phone seems to have a very talented dev team. Already there are a few Roms and kernels. the future looks bright. As of now I know people are working on Asop and even viper rom.
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No lag
Bright future, there are some great devs for this phone already
On par or slightly better.
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No lag whatsoever....period. I came from a thunderbolt and that too would drive me crazy, even with a polished rom and without widgets. I'm not sure if it's Project Butter, Jelly Bean, Sense 4+, 2g of RAM or the insane processor in this thing that makes it run smoothly. Probably a little bit of all of that.
Battery life is good enough for me. I work in and out of 4G area at work but I am on wifi pretty much the rest of the time and it has been awesome. Never charge mid day anymore. Always with 20 to 30 % by the time I go to bed. And the wireless charger is awesome. Highly recommend it. I find myself using youtube more often than I should because of the awesome screen too. I would say I am an average user.
Have not found a reason yet to root. I will wait until it becomes more stable, easier before I go that route. But I'm sure there will be good ROM in the future....at least I hope so.
Ok guys, I'm pretty convinced that I'm gonna give the DNA a shot. One thing I noticed about this HTC 8X Windows Phone is that it locked on satellites really fast. Much, much, much faster than my GS3. It also had better reception than my GS3. Can I expect the same things on the DNA or might that have been a Windows thing?
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Ok guys, I'm pretty convinced that I'm gonna give the DNA a shot. One thing I noticed about this HTC 8X Windows Phone is that it locked on satellites really fast. Much, much, much faster than my GS3. It also had better reception than my GS3. Can I expect the same things on the DNA or might that have been a Windows thing?
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HTC thing!
my S3 would NEVER lock on to GPS..like even outside trying to do navigation. it SUCKED.
my DNA locks on in like, 2 seconds. just like my Nexus 7. love it!
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Ok guys, I'm pretty convinced that I'm gonna give the DNA a shot. One thing I noticed about this HTC 8X Windows Phone is that it locked on satellites really fast. Much, much, much faster than my GS3. It also had better reception than my GS3. Can I expect the same things on the DNA or might that have been a Windows thing?
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The s3 just has horrible radios.
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I doubt the development will be here that long. Look at the Thunderbolt. They had to wait for ports.
I've owed many smartphones and used/supported countless others. (including the gs3) The DNA is the first phone that has ever even come close to keeping up with me and the speed at which my brain operates. Zero lag period, regardless of how many apps you have running. I haven't even considered OC'ing and that's usually the first thing I do. The battery is decent and better then most. I typically charge over night and once mid-day. Most other phones I've had to charge 2 - 3 times a day. The dev scene is about average for a phone this new and s-on. Once s-off is achieved I expect it to blow up.
The DNA is the first phone that I've had that wouldn't bother me if there wasn't a big development team behind it. Like you I was/am a flashaholic, but honestly with a couple of Mods I've been golden on this phone. It's snappy, the radios are great (looking at you Samsung) GPS is phenomenal, and battery is pretty much the same as the GS3. Wireless charging is a plus, awesome to just sit it down and let it charge overnight, or on my desk at work.
The phone works great out of the box, only a couple of annoyances for me was the bloat, Wi-Fi reminder, and battery icon, I love everything else. Sense has come a long way since the thunderbolt (last HTC phone I owned). If you had to be stuck with a manufacturer's skin, Sense would be my pick.
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I doubt the development will be here that long. Look at the Thunderbolt. They had to wait for ports.
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What do you mean by that? I got the TB about a week after releases adn there were A LOT of roms being made. What you are talking about is a little bit after the major devs started jumping ship. I think the Thunderbolt had it's fair share of roms
I hope the DNA gets a fully working MIUI; I really like the themes you can get on MIUI
My thunderbolt kept giving me a roaming flashing triangle whenever I ran an MIUI rom which started driving me crazy.