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OK, so I have an HD2 now and it's the same old problem Microsoft hasn't fixed. Yes, I can move both my attachments and mail to the storage card but if you move the email bodies to the storage card, the perpetual recurring "storage card2" problem still haunts us. If you just want to move the attachments to the card and you use the start the “Messaging” program, go to Menu, Options, Storage (tab) and check the box that says “When available use the storage card to store attachments” option, you will not have a problem. If you do reg edit yourself to accomplish this instead of letting the mail program create an attachment folder on your sd card, you may see the recurring 'storage card2' problem popping up after you receive your first attachment and soft boot. If you move the mail bodies to the card, you will no doubt experience this problem. After years of this problem, Microsoft has not had the courtesy or sense to fix it, which one of their programmers could probably do in an hour.
There are some that say this problem is caused by the mail program or a mail service calling up the mail attachment and mail directories on the SD card before the SD card driver is loaded. I'm not a phone or software hacker guru, but it doesn't make logical sense to me that any services or software can be loaded before the OS finishes loading the startup drivers. If this actually can and is being done on WM 6.5, someone please let me know ! A solution would be to change the loading order of the storage card driver to load sooner, which can be done through a reg entry, but if it's moved up in priority too much, before other possible dependent drivers are loaded, then the storage card will not load at all, and I'm not familiar enough to guess what priority I can move the card driver up to without causing issues. I'm also not convinced of this cause because if you just move the attachments folder to the card using the option in the mail program, you'll never have this recurring "storage card2" problem.
I can tell you that removing the mail notification from my today screen on my T-Mobile Wing definitely solved the problem. It may work as well if I remove the mail screen from the menu bar on my hd2 but I like that feature and I'm really more interested in solving the root of the problem once and for all.
PLEASE HELP ! Can anyone of you xda-dev's fix this problem once and for all !? Thousands of people have spent thousands of hours pulling their hair out over this issue and Microsoft doesn't care !
Here are my observations and comments from messing with this phone for an absurd amount of hours. These are an excerpt from a posting I made elsewhere so far without reply:
1. You don’t need to modify your registry to put attachments on the storage card. You simply need to start the “Messaging” program, go to Menu, Options, Storage (tab) and check the box that says “When available use the storage card to store attachments”. Soft reset. You’re attachments will now absolutely be stored on the storage card in a folder the program will create called Inbox.mstXXXXXXXXX.xxxxx with some numerical appendage. No "storage card2" issues.
2. You can make the above registry change to move the email body to the storage card, soft reset, then use the mail program and all of your email bodies will indeed go in to the folder you created. Until you actually download an email, you can reboot as many times as you like and no storage card2 will be created, but as soon as you download an email, a storage card2 folder will be created on your next soft boot.
You can usually just delete the newly created storage card folder without removing the sd card, and reboot at least twice and the 'storage card2' folder will automatically be renamed back to storage card and it will stay this way until you download another email and restart/soft boot. Then the storage card2 problem starts all over again.
I ultimately wound up putting the email bodies back into main memory and using the storage card for attachments. With the much larger amount of memory in the HD2 than older phones, I can store a more reasonable amount of email, however it does tend to slow the phone down when you store 1000 emails and it annoys the heck out of me that I can’t actually move all of this to the SD card.
If anyone actually comes up with a solution to the actual root of the problem, please let me know !
Thanks !
I Think I know cause
I had the problem (several times) before.
The trick to avoid: everything needed for winmo to run needs to be on internal storage.
I do not know how, but i feel if one could "delay" the startup of programs, or make programs dependent of each other, the problem can be solved.
Mail is crucial in Winmo, and always runs.
If mail is started before the sdcard is mounted the Storagecard2 problem pops up.
If it would be possible to delay startup of certain programs, I am convinced the problem disappeares.
Now WM has this possibility in HKLM/init with launchXX and DependsXX
Only..... What inits the sdcard?
Anyone?
Hi all,
I also possesses a HTC HD2 and I move the mails and attachments on the storage card. The problem is that the boot device storage card and rename it to "Storage Card 2".
The problem comes from Sense, it checks the mail at startup before the card is up, anyone know how one could detect the μSD before starting Sense?
I have HTC Sense disabled all the time. Same problem with Storage Card2.
Anyone,
I've run into an oddity that I'm hoping someone could help explain. First, I'm running Cyanogen Mod 6 (update-cm-6.1.2-0.11-Milestone-signed.zip) on my HTC Aria. I've been running CM6 since last December.
A couple of weeks ago, my gmail account quit syncing and I stopped receiving text messages. Over the course of the last 2 weeks, I've gotten it working on and off. What finally got it working was to address the other informational message I was getting (running out of memory on my phone).
I was down to < 10% of the phone's main memory remaining. I found out that if I rebooted and cleared the cache, it would work again until the cache grew and brought available storage on the phone (I have an 8G SD card in it) to under 10% left.
Any app that I can move to the SD card has been moved to the SD card but it appears those apps still have some amount of data that they store on the phone? This AM, I finally removed some apps completely that were nice but not necessary for me to have on the phone and I haven't had a problem.
So, does anyone know if this is a known issue? Or, just a coincidence that text messages and emails stop when running low on memory.
Thanks.
++Rob
rharveland said:
Anyone,
I've run into an oddity that I'm hoping someone could help explain. First, I'm running Cyanogen Mod 6 (update-cm-6.1.2-0.11-Milestone-signed.zip) on my HTC Aria. I've been running CM6 since last December.
A couple of weeks ago, my gmail account quit syncing and I stopped receiving text messages. Over the course of the last 2 weeks, I've gotten it working on and off. What finally got it working was to address the other informational message I was getting (running out of memory on my phone).
I was down to < 10% of the phone's main memory remaining. I found out that if I rebooted and cleared the cache, it would work again until the cache grew and brought available storage on the phone (I have an 8G SD card in it) to under 10% left.
Any app that I can move to the SD card has been moved to the SD card but it appears those apps still have some amount of data that they store on the phone? This AM, I finally removed some apps completely that were nice but not necessary for me to have on the phone and I haven't had a problem.
So, does anyone know if this is a known issue? Or, just a coincidence that text messages and emails stop when running low on memory.
Thanks.
++Rob
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First off, Why are you using the milestone Cyanogenmod6?
use this : http://download.cyanogenmod.com/get/update-cm-6.1.1-Liberty.zip
Clear dialer storage.SMS mms dialer all use the same storage.clear that up and you're good.
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Thanks for the info.
I was actually on that one (still have that zip on my sd card) but, when it started to not receive txt messages nor gmail, I went looking for something newer than what I had installed to see if there was a different version of Cyanogen that would work better. I tried CM7, a liberated Froyo, and the official Android 2.2 from AT&T (so I had to search through the forums to find out how to re-root my phone). I think I just ended up on the Milestone build (and since it was a CM6 like I had been using since Dec, I just quit trying new versions).
I just put the 6.1.1-Liberty back on. It had 24MB of internal stoarge left (out of 185MB). I moved a 15MB app from my SD card to my phone to get the available memory down below 10%, giving me the message about being low on memory. I sent a txt msg to my wife and she responded but, the response has not come through after waiting 5 min (while mine got to her phone in a few seconds).
Could there be an undocumented feature to prevent emails and txt messages when there's not much free space on the device? I cannot move Messaging nor Gmail to my storage card so I can see why someone might put a limit on that to avoid filling up the phone storage. Does anyone know if this feature is customizable so I can make it go to 5% before ignoring email and text messages?
I'll make sure to stay on top of those warning messages and make sure my next phone has more internal memory.
++Rob
Yes, I have heard of not being able to receive text messages when you are too low on internal storage. I don't know why it happens, but in general Android does not handle low memory situations very well and things just stop working properly.
Unfortuntely the Aria has very little internal storage, so it's difficult to avoid this problem. The best thing you can do is to start taking advantage of one of the various apps2sd methods (not the built-in Android one). There are basically two of particular interest:
Darktremor - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790786
This method should work with CM6, but is more complicated to set up. Once you have it set up, though, you don't have to change anything and can just let it work its magic.
Simple2Ext (S2E) - https://market.android.com/details?id=ru.krikun.s2e
This method only works on CM7, but is very easy to set up.
You mentioned that you already tried CM7. Did you try CM 7.1.0 RC1? I've been really happy with this build for the past month and would recommend it. Of course the added benefit is being able to use S2E.
I've had this issue before. If you're receiving the 'low storage' message, you'll stop receiving emails, texts, and even app updates begin to fail.
Just gotta clear up some space.
Yup, had the same but in my case the GTalk wouldn't start up. Def having low internal memory kills the phone without a good reason, specially because it's a percent rather than a hard number...
Do use a App2SD app that enables you to move the dalvik cache to the SD and you'll see a lot of space cleared. I recommend darktremor + the GUI (available the latter in the market)
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The following thread has some good info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770146 ... more specifically ... this page that is linked from that thread.
One thing that I've done that I haven't seen mentioned is replacing the google apps (Gmail, Googlevoice, Maps, Market, Street...) in system/apps with the updated versions. Keeps the updates from stealing internal storage. As a heads up, the market app is the "Vending.apk" for those that did not know. I actually replace the apps in the rom I'm using (Liberated2.2.2) and reinstall that. Not including google apps I have 51 apps installed, 13 on the phone, 38 on the card and right now I have close to 116 MB internal storage available. I have a feeling that the 51 apps that I think is a lot is a drop in the bucket for some.
I recently started getting a low space warning that I can't get rid of, despite having moved all possible (i.e. non-system, non-widget) apps to SD via built in app2sd. I know the right solution is s2e, I just didn't want to format my card because it took me forever to get all my music copied onto it in the first place. Well SD cards are cheap, I ordered a bigger one, and I'll format it for s2e and all will be well again.
But in the meantime, I noticed that I stopped getting "green" connection status, and was no longer receiving GMail or Talk notifications. After a restart, I got a good connection again, until the low space warning reappeared, at which point the connection went white again.
So what's up with that? Is it by design that when low on space, the phone won't connect to Google anymore? If so that seems pretty silly, considering there's still 20 mb available.
You've basically answered your own question, but yes, Android is notoriously bad at handling low memory situations. You simply must maintain a certain amount of free space or things will inexplicably stop working correctly. My recommendation to you is to delete an app or two that you rarely use to free up some space until you get the new SD card set up.
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/3klbjpn70lhy94i,m5e3q7cbepp2iwj/shared
These are the two screenshot of my phone storage and internal SD card space, I have enough on both of them but somehow its not enough every once in a while my email and other services stops randomly saying storage space running out! I had to uninstall a game which was 55mb in size but still it shows the same error and automatically goes away saying storage space is enough now.. when I didn't do anything. I am not even able to update my apps because of that. What's the matter with this?
It is common to get the error “failed out of memory please try again later” when trying to send pictures on Whatsapp or when you are trying to change your Whatsapp profile picture. This is basically a memory problem. It’s not as a result of not having enough memory, this error can happen even when you have Gigabytes worth of memory on your smartphone and SD card.
I have come across a lot of forums where this problem was discussed and people were wrongly advised to reset their phones and format their SD cards. This may quite solve your problem but you may end up losing a lot of other important data in the process.
The truth is that you don’t have to reset your phone or format your SD card to solve the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error. I will advise you on several methods you could use to solve the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error without having to reset your smartphone or format your SD card
Method 1: Restart your phone
Sometimes this error occurs as a result of your phone not being able to synchronize data with the SD card. When your phone has been on for a long while, there is a possibility some processes may have become idle or even dead, some other programs may have taken over the memory space for such idle or dead processes making it difficult for them to pick up memory when you try to use their applications.
So restarting your phone will simply refresh all the running processes on your device, kill those you don’t need on startup and free memory for any application you want to run. So the first method to solving the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error is to restart your phone.
Method 2: Unmount your SD card:
Since the Whatsapp program folder is usually in the SD card (path: /mnt/sdcard), it will be wise to unmount the SD card, waiting for some few seconds or minutes and reinserting it into the device. That way you would’ve stopped all the processes that depends on the SD card such as the Whatsapp giving you the error.
When you mount the SD card again, the processes will be refreshed and memory will become available again for your apps such as the Whatsapp and you can be able to send images or change display images without encountering the “failed out of memory please try again later error”.
Method 3: Reduce Picture Resolutions
Another way to avoid the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error is to reduce the picture resolution. Most smartphones these days come with very high picture resolutions which make the pictures very clear and nice when taken but it also make the picture sizes quite high.
A 5MP camera with a 1952 x 2592 resolution can take pictures of almost 1MB each. Reducing the image resolution will reduce the image quality and size as well. You can reduce the camera resolution by going to your camera settings under resolutions and change it to a lower resolution.
Method 4: Delete Pictures from the Whatsapp folder
As you send and receive images on Whatsapp, and even when you view your friend’s profile pictures, they are automatically stored on your Whatsapp media and profile pictures folders. Use a file explorer such as ES File Explorer to navigate to /mnt/sdcard/Whatsapp/Media/Whatsapp Images and delete the images in that folder. You should also do same for the Whatsapp video, Whatsapp Voice Notes, Whatsapp Audio folders.
Clearing these folders will free up memory for your Whatsapp app to run smoothly without failed out of memory please try again later errors.
I hope I have been able to give you a working solution to solving the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error. If one method does not work for you try the other, one will most definitely work for you.
Zubair1024 said:
It is common to get the error “failed out of memory please try again later” when trying to send pictures on Whatsapp or when you are trying to change your Whatsapp profile picture. This is basically a memory problem. It’s not as a result of not having enough memory, this error can happen even when you have Gigabytes worth of memory on your smartphone and SD card.
I have come across a lot of forums where this problem was discussed and people were wrongly advised to reset their phones and format their SD cards. This may quite solve your problem but you may end up losing a lot of other important data in the process.
The truth is that you don’t have to reset your phone or format your SD card to solve the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error. I will advise you on several methods you could use to solve the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error without having to reset your smartphone or format your SD card
Method 1: Restart your phone
Sometimes this error occurs as a result of your phone not being able to synchronize data with the SD card. When your phone has been on for a long while, there is a possibility some processes may have become idle or even dead, some other programs may have taken over the memory space for such idle or dead processes making it difficult for them to pick up memory when you try to use their applications.
So restarting your phone will simply refresh all the running processes on your device, kill those you don’t need on startup and free memory for any application you want to run. So the first method to solving the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error is to restart your phone.
Method 2: Unmount your SD card:
Since the Whatsapp program folder is usually in the SD card (path: /mnt/sdcard), it will be wise to unmount the SD card, waiting for some few seconds or minutes and reinserting it into the device. That way you would’ve stopped all the processes that depends on the SD card such as the Whatsapp giving you the error.
When you mount the SD card again, the processes will be refreshed and memory will become available again for your apps such as the Whatsapp and you can be able to send images or change display images without encountering the “failed out of memory please try again later error”.
Method 3: Reduce Picture Resolutions
Another way to avoid the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error is to reduce the picture resolution. Most smartphones these days come with very high picture resolutions which make the pictures very clear and nice when taken but it also make the picture sizes quite high.
A 5MP camera with a 1952 x 2592 resolution can take pictures of almost 1MB each. Reducing the image resolution will reduce the image quality and size as well. You can reduce the camera resolution by going to your camera settings under resolutions and change it to a lower resolution.
Method 4: Delete Pictures from the Whatsapp folder
As you send and receive images on Whatsapp, and even when you view your friend’s profile pictures, they are automatically stored on your Whatsapp media and profile pictures folders. Use a file explorer such as ES File Explorer to navigate to /mnt/sdcard/Whatsapp/Media/Whatsapp Images and delete the images in that folder. You should also do same for the Whatsapp video, Whatsapp Voice Notes, Whatsapp Audio folders.
Clearing these folders will free up memory for your Whatsapp app to run smoothly without failed out of memory please try again later errors.
I hope I have been able to give you a working solution to solving the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error. If one method does not work for you try the other, one will most definitely work for you.
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For me, I simply clear the RAM from task manager and issue is solved.
Do the above mentioned methods permanently solve the problem?
There seems to be another error in whatsapp these days starting from last couple of versions. When you try to click photo from the whatsapp chat icon, not from the top attach menu but from the bottom right icon along with the microphone icon, it always gives camera failed error. Even though the camera is working fine the error persists and I am not able to send the pic. This is really annoying. Can someone tell a fix to that?
I m running ICS 4.0.4
WhatsApp Version 2.11.294
NabaKumar said:
There seems to be another error in whatsapp these days starting from last couple of versions. When you try to click photo from the whatsapp chat icon, not from the top attach menu but from the bottom right icon along with the microphone icon, it always gives camera failed error. Even though the camera is working fine the error persists and I am not able to send the pic. This is really annoying. Can someone tell a fix to that?
I m running ICS 4.0.4
WhatsApp Version 2.11.294
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Just a mere ram clean by stopping the apps through the task manager will solve your problem. Though it's not a permanent solution.
Sent from my SM-N7505 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
It's not an issue of RAM or memory. It's a bug in whatsapp AFAIK.
NabaKumar said:
It's not an issue of RAM or memory. It's a bug in whatsapp AFAIK.
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It's obviously not a problem with the ram.. But kill the app and it's process and starting them again solves the problem temporarily.
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I have tried all the possible fix mentioned in this forum and avalilable on net.
But the issue seems to be not going for me.
Getting frustrated now!!
Been using whatsapp since 2yrs and this is first time I ever faced this error few days back while sending few photos . Just restarted and it kinda resolved but error would crop up again after a while so this looks like some sort of bug in the app itself and solutions in this thread are just workarounds
Force close whatsapp
Issue resolved.
Techgod said:
Force close whatsapp
Issue resolved.
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is it the same as restart the phone?
zyruswong said:
is it the same as restart the phone?
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Yup it does the same thing... But much easier...
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Zubair1024 said:
It is common to get the error “failed out of memory please try again later” when trying to send pictures on Whatsapp or when you are trying to change your Whatsapp profile picture. This is basically a memory problem. It’s not as a result of not having enough memory, this error can happen even when you have Gigabytes worth of memory on your smartphone and SD card.
I have come across a lot of forums where this problem was discussed and people were wrongly advised to reset their phones and format their SD cards. This may quite solve your problem but you may end up losing a lot of other important data in the process.
The truth is that you don’t have to reset your phone or format your SD card to solve the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error. I will advise you on several methods you could use to solve the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error without having to reset your smartphone or format your SD card
Method 1: Restart your phone
Sometimes this error occurs as a result of your phone not being able to synchronize data with the SD card. When your phone has been on for a long while, there is a possibility some processes may have become idle or even dead, some other programs may have taken over the memory space for such idle or dead processes making it difficult for them to pick up memory when you try to use their applications.
So restarting your phone will simply refresh all the running processes on your device, kill those you don’t need on startup and free memory for any application you want to run. So the first method to solving the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error is to restart your phone.
Method 2: Unmount your SD card:
Since the Whatsapp program folder is usually in the SD card (path: /mnt/sdcard), it will be wise to unmount the SD card, waiting for some few seconds or minutes and reinserting it into the device. That way you would’ve stopped all the processes that depends on the SD card such as the Whatsapp giving you the error.
When you mount the SD card again, the processes will be refreshed and memory will become available again for your apps such as the Whatsapp and you can be able to send images or change display images without encountering the “failed out of memory please try again later error”.
Method 3: Reduce Picture Resolutions
Another way to avoid the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error is to reduce the picture resolution. Most smartphones these days come with very high picture resolutions which make the pictures very clear and nice when taken but it also make the picture sizes quite high.
A 5MP camera with a 1952 x 2592 resolution can take pictures of almost 1MB each. Reducing the image resolution will reduce the image quality and size as well. You can reduce the camera resolution by going to your camera settings under resolutions and change it to a lower resolution.
Method 4: Delete Pictures from the Whatsapp folder
As you send and receive images on Whatsapp, and even when you view your friend’s profile pictures, they are automatically stored on your Whatsapp media and profile pictures folders. Use a file explorer such as ES File Explorer to navigate to /mnt/sdcard/Whatsapp/Media/Whatsapp Images and delete the images in that folder. You should also do same for the Whatsapp video, Whatsapp Voice Notes, Whatsapp Audio folders.
Clearing these folders will free up memory for your Whatsapp app to run smoothly without failed out of memory please try again later errors.
I hope I have been able to give you a working solution to solving the Whatsapp failed out of memory please try again later error. If one method does not work for you try the other, one will most definitely work for you.
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Thanks for starting this tread, one more app I found it useful to solve the issue. I installed "Quick System Info Pro" added the widget on my home screen and press the C button which stands for clear cache. Found out my cache was at an alarming 1.96GB. Hope this helps. Kudos to the app maker of Quick System Info, btw you may find the notification icons annoying you can turn them of under preference.
I went to my sent items on device storage and found that in there was a picture in Sent Items that I did not send! Have anyone heard of this ??
I have another issue but not in sending but in receiving ,
I friend sent me some photos when I tried to download it said " Temporary problem transferring this. Please try again later"
thought at first it is a connectivity issue so I tried when the connection is better still no use
switched on the auto-download media for photos to force whatsapp to persistently download it still no use
I doubt it is a SD card issue (you see I am using a S40 version of whatsapp and the application is actually in the SD card since it caches the data inside the jar file not as backups like the rest of files.. so I was forced to move it there so it don't overload the phone memory )
I am using a Nokia X2-02 (I know it is not listed but it is working to a degree)
version 2.13.27