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Does anyone know the current status of ICS development for Amaze? Contemplating switching from Sensation, which is just at the doorstep of getting pure AOSP ICS, currently few minor bugs to be worked out. Just wondering how far development has gone, perhaps at other sites?
Xboarder is doing a ton of the work here and as far as I know he is the one working on it. I believe his latest thought was porting it from another device but so far all we have had is a functional touchscreen.
craigtut said:
Xboarder is doing a ton of the work here and as far as I know he is the one working on it. I believe his latest thought was porting it from another device but so far all we have had is a functional touchscreen.
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Similar stuff going on @ sensation - Tripnraver is doing awesome work @ Modaco. I had tried his pure AOSP ICS rom and it's almost ready, save camera and bt, and I can't believe how amazingly fast and snappy it was. Not my daily driver yet, but mighty close.
I guess I should be expecting similar time frame from xboarder (i used one of his CM7 based roms on sensation).
I'll raise a toast to our first successful developer, and send them some beer change, too They all deserve much for their hard work.
Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378294
The last post from him says he is working on something else currently.
XOOM got ICS port right now, with everything working well (except face unlock, but hey...)
does that mean anything for us Flyer/View-owners? is it possible to port it to our tablet?
would love ics on the flyer
EDIT: Link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/highly-functioning-cm9-kang-released-for-the-xoom/
what does it mean to us? That the xoom got an ics port, nothing more or less.
Different hardware types and kernels mean xoom with ics is meaningless to us.
My guess is he was asking if there was a way to port it and mod it to work. What we really need to hope for of CM9.x to arrive that will support the Flyer/Evo View.
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what does it mean to us? That the xoom got an ics port, nothing more or less.
Different hardware types and kernels mean xoom with ics is meaningless to us.
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hahha somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed, or are you always this negative? haha relax
im not stupid, i know that its a diffrent tablet, but this kinds of ports are being done almost daily.
as this fella mentioned, i was thinking of a mod, to get it to work.
He's not being grouchy, just straight forward. You cannot port a ROM complied for a completely different family of hardware and get it to function in any conceivable fashion. You'd be better off with a SDK build of ICS which would possibly boot if you hacked in a boot image, but none of the HTC specific hardware like camera, BT or video would function. There are already efforts underway to build ICS ROMs. Since ICS is built on top of HC, we have most of the pieces to build a vanilla ROM (no HTC Sense). Once HTC comes out with a working HTC device ICS ROM on hardware that is similar to the Flyer (yes some of their phones use similar hardware) that will be the port we want for ICS /Sense Roms.
I would love to have ICS on this device. Considering how much dev interest the blowout sales have generated I think its possible. But I am not going to how my breathe. I have a galaxy nexus but my evo view is still my primary device due to its pen and large screen. My wishlist for the next iteration of this device is: lighter, ICS, sprint 4g LTE in that exact order
Hopefully the fire sales have pushed HTC to keep going.
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I would love to have ICS on this device. Considering how much dev interest the blowout sales have generated I think its possible. But I am not going to how my breathe. I have a galaxy nexus but my evo view is still my primary device due to its pen and large screen. My wishlist for the next iteration of this device is: lighter, ICS, sprint 4g LTE in that exact order
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Reading about ICS on Prime on engadget has made me interested in ICS as well.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/hands-on-with-ice-cream-sandwich-on-asus-transformer-prime/
DigitalMD said:
He's not being grouchy, just straight forward. You cannot port a ROM complied for a completely different family of hardware and get it to function in any conceivable fashion. You'd be better off with a SDK build of ICS which would possibly boot if you hacked in a boot image, but none of the HTC specific hardware like camera, BT or video would function. There are already efforts underway to build ICS ROMs. Since ICS is built on top of HC, we have most of the pieces to build a vanilla ROM (no HTC Sense). Once HTC comes out with a working HTC device ICS ROM on hardware that is similar to the Flyer (yes some of their phones use similar hardware) that will be the port we want for ICS /Sense Roms.
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yeah i know, but since ive seen others with ics, that made me a bit inpaitient
htc sensation got the ics leaked, and maybe someone can start by playing with that one.
and i dont really care if its manilla or sense, both will do good dont think flyer/view will be getting any ICS official soon, since HC just was released.
if i seemed grouchy, it may be because I am a comp sci major with aspirations of being a software engineer. I view the question as either yes or no and then explain the logic why not. No intentions of rudeness, but I tend to assume I'm talking to ppl with similar backgrounds... At least on the net anyway.
Wooow...okey then...my bad! I should know better..
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We are keeping an eye on the HTC Sensation leak. Right now there are 2 or 3 pages of things that don't work and of course its a different radio and HBOOT. So its a ways out from being useful as a port other than a novelty. By that I mean you might get something to boot, but none of the hardware functions like camera and touch screen would work.
May want to wait for something more stable to port..sounds more like a way to brick a flyer than a novelty.
How much difference is there between sensation and flyer? Also is the radio relevant for the WiFi flyer.
I keep forgetting the are 3g versions of the flyer.
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We are keeping an eye on the HTC Sensation leak. Right now there are 2 or 3 pages of things that don't work and of course its a different radio and HBOOT. So its a ways out from being useful as a port other than a novelty. By that I mean you might get something to boot, but none of the hardware functions like camera and touch screen would work.
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ok, sounds good though!
whats the chances of a HC/ICS mix then, do you know? i mean, using what might be working in ICS (the best of it) combined with the useabilities of the HC.
*modding is not my area, as you might understand by now*
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ok, sounds good though!
whats the chances of a HC/ICS mix then, do you know? i mean, using what might be working in ICS (the best of it) combined with the useabilities of the HC.
*modding is not my area, as you might understand by now*
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May want to wait for something more stable to port..sounds more like a way to brick a flyer than a novelty.
How much difference is there between sensation and flyer? Also is the radio relevant for the WiFi flyer.
I keep forgetting the are 3g versions of the flyer.
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1. ICS is built on top of HC so we already have most of the ICS GUI. Google is already moving some of the ICS features into individual apps like the updated Google Search.
2. Radio is always relevant because it controls GPS, Wifi , and BT in addition to 3g.
There have been a number of threads started here asking what is the best ROM for the Evo 3d. Those threads are not allowed in the Evo 3D forums and this one is not intended to answer that question. What it is intended to do is help users that are new to custom ROM's on the Evo 3D get some idea of what is available and what might fit their needs based on what they think they want. Then they can try the ROM's that interest them and make a decision about which one suits them best.
If you want feedback on ROM's that might work for you please supply as much of the following information as you can:
1. What model of the Evo 3D do you have (CDMA/GSM, Evo 3D, Evo V, Evo 4G+)
2. What ROM are you currently running?
3. Is your Evo 3D rooted and/or S-OFF?
4. What is important to you in a ROM (features, customization, performance, battery life, etc.)
5. Do you plan to run a custom kernel to OC/UV or for additional features like USB host?
6. If you have a preference between Sense and AOSP ROM's please include that.
7. Indicate if you are looking specifically for a GingerBread, Ice Cream Sandwich or Jelly Bean based ROM.
8. Must have features that don't work on all ROM's like Wi-Fi tethering, WiMax 4G, and 3D camera.
For people giving information and advice in this thread, please refrain from stating what you think is "the best" ROM since it is up to each user to decide that for themselves. And most importantly, please don't get excited if someone else doesn't appreciate your favorite ROM since we want things to be civil so we can keep this thread open.
Thanks to the mods for being willing to give this a try.
ramjet73
I have given permission for this thread.
Everyone just be nice
Now if we can train users to ask in this thread...
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Now if we can train users to ask in this thread...
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I know.
We'll just have to point them here when they start their own thread. Maybe the mods will help us with that.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Maybe the mods will help us with that.
ramjet73
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Smurflocked... Now go here
Bookmarked this.
should be a really good initiative to help new flashers
[Q] need good rom where things work
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My wife got a used e3d [cdma] a few weeks ago and is experiencing wierd things, the touch screen is non-responsive, it freezes, the proximity sensor goes crazy, etc...
What is a decent rom, where most everything works fine? I don't care about 3d, but wimax and regular camera are necessary. I was just going to do the htc unlock as I don't really care about s-on or off for her phone.
EDIT: I would prefer a cm9 or cm10, but it looks like cm10 hasn't been updated in almost 2 months, and i can't even find a cm9 thread... you're dev forum is packed to the brim, lol.
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I'm transferring this information from the Q&A forum for sparticuz so he can get some feedback here.
I'll start by saying that if the phone is having touchscreen problems you might want to flash the RUU for the Sprint ICS stock ROM to make sure it's not hardware.
You will have to relock it before running the RUU, then HTC unlock it again and flash a custom recovery, and then you will be able to flash custom ROM's of your choice.
Given your preference I would suggest you try the JB custom ROM's that are in active development, which includes a variety of CM10, MIUI and AOKP ROM's in the Development Forum. Most of them have working cameras at his point (though not 3D). None have WiMax 4G yet but it's being worked on.
You might also want to try some of the Sense based ROM's like SOS M that are mostly "de-Sensed" to remove the bloat but have everything working and still offer the look and feel of AOSP based ROM's.
ramjet73
It's running stock right now. I was thinking about doing a reset to factory, but I also wanted to address the finicky proximity sensor and the freezing at the same time. I was hoping for something that is stable at this point, I won't be 'flashing the latest nightlies' on it or anything. What would be the best fit for me for a stable ics rom, i don't care if it's sense or not, where 4g and camera work, (again, i don't care about 3d).
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It's running stock right now. I was thinking about doing a reset to factory,
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Are you rooted? That would be your first step.
There isn't a better place to start. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817513
I was hoping for something that is stable at this point, I won't be 'flashing the latest nightlies' on it or anything. What would be the best fit for me for a stable ics rom, i don't care if it's sense or not, where 4g and camera work, (again, i don't care about 3d).
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I've done a fair amount of experimenting but once I found Cool, my experimenting was over.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668918
Everything works. Fast, Smooth and everything Sprint and HTC neglected to do . . .
can i ask about a ROM that is not developed in XDA?
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It's running stock right now. I was thinking about doing a reset to factory, but I also wanted to address the finicky proximity sensor and the freezing at the same time. I was hoping for something that is stable at this point, I won't be 'flashing the latest nightlies' on it or anything. What would be the best fit for me for a stable ics rom, i don't care if it's sense or not, where 4g and camera work, (again, i don't care about 3d).
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Is it for you or your wife?
Because honestly if it's for your wife you may just be better suited to stick with a sense rom. There are a few ics ones that run smoothly with no issues and even some that are made to look more stock Android like.
I only say that because, unless she is hard core like most people on here she may not truly want bleeding edge, just wants it to always work. Although I consider cm10 stable for myself and have been using it as a daily, it would be far too unstable for my wife. Does that make sense? I have been through situations like this with my wife while she was on Android, I finally gave in and bought her an iphone.
Running MeanROM ICS at the moment. I Have the Sprint Evo 3D. I care about 3D (display and camera), Wimax 4G, tethering, HDMI out, speed, and stability. I have s off. I don't care about Sense because I run my own launchers and widgets. I also use Link2SD because the phone doesn't have enough internal storage.
Any ROM suggestions?
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Running MeanROM ICS at the moment. I Have the Sprint Evo 3D. I care about 3D (display and camera), Wimax 4G, tethering, HDMI out, speed, and stability. I have s off. I don't care about Sense because I run my own launchers and widgets. I also use Link2SD because the phone doesn't have enough internal storage.
Any ROM suggestions?
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Some ROM's that come to mind given your requirements are SOS M, which you may have tried already, the d3rpICS Bareback version, and the Senseless AOSP version of SolidROM.
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ramjet73 said:
Some ROM's that come to mind given your requirements are SOS M, which you may have tried already, the d3rpICS Bareback version, and the Senseless AOSP version of SolidROM.
ramjet73
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I agree about SOS M as it is basically just MeanROM without Sense. I also think that Common Sense AOSP and Desensification (both by beneath a burning turtle) are worthy contenders to add to ramjet's list. Both have most of the sense stuff removed as well.
Good thread Ramjet73. Since I don't dig around and actually try different roms (I read about them when I can), I will post here for some feedback.
Currently:
1. Evo 3D CDMA (Sprint)
2. MeanRom ICS v2.6
3. Rooted / S-OFF / 2.89fw & Hboot 1.58
4. My ROM Priority Order: features, performance, battery life
5. Running Athx 3.6.6a-MR, for OC/UV at 1.62Ghz, Sweep2Wake, & USB OTG (OTG is so cool!)
6. The only thing from sense 3.6 I have kept/like is the Weather Lockscreen with its App Shortcuts and Caller ID. (ADW Launcher Ex)
Looking for:
7. I am interested in a solid Jelly Bean/CM based ROM if it's available.
8. My must have features beyond the basics that I like from MeanRom (4g and 3d Camera not req'd)
- Full Data Roaming
- WiFi Tether support (Need for tethering the HP Touchpad with CM9)
- Exchange ActiveSync "Sync While Roaming" can now be enabled including push (update schedule) while roaming
- HTML message format unlocked in Exchange Mail settings
- Roam Only option in mobile network settings
- init.d support
- LeeTweaks (or similar non controversial version/features)
- MHL (TV out) support (may give this one up temporarily)
I keep expecting to see something that makes me want to trade the features/performance/dependability I get on MR 2.6, but haven't gotten the impression that JB development for the 3D has hit that milestone yet. Please redirect me if I missed something.
Thanks
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Good thread Ramjet73. Since I don't dig around and actually try different roms (I read about them when I can), I will post here for some feedback.
I keep expecting to see something that makes me want to trade the features/performance/dependability I get on MR 2.6, but haven't gotten the impression that JB development for the 3D has hit that milestone yet. Please redirect me if I missed something.
Thanks
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Wow, that's a tough one.
To be honest, I still haven't found anything better than MeanROM ICS, especially when you consider the roaming and Outlook features, along with the other fixes that Mike (mikeyxda) made to the Sprint ICS base. JB ROM's are still solving camera, WiMax and MMS issues, and I don't think they have even started to address features like roaming control and Outlook customizations. Agrabren's Disarmed Toaster CM10 ROM is probably the farthest along on the Evo 3D, and an update is expected soon that should narrow the gap between AOSP and Sense ROM's for our phone.
Cool ICS and Common Sense both offer some things that aren't integrated into MeanROM ICS (Google Now and other Jelly Bean features, custom kernel, enhanced YouTube) but as you already know those features can be added to MeanROM ICS with a little extra work. The d3rpICS ROM (Sense and de-Sensed) is another option to consider, and one of the few with ongoing updates available via SVN, but I haven't checked its features recently.
As far as AOSP based ROM's go, there are a bunch of new ones recently released, but development is mainly focused on camera, MMS, WiMax and other basic functionality, with hardly any discussion of roaming and Outlook features.
I still use MeanROM ICS as the daily driver on my primary phone, so I'm not really the best one to answer your question about alternatives, especially AOSP based options. That's why we started this thread so hopefully someone who does use an AOSP based ROM as their primary will jump in.
BTW, my favorite JB based ROM so far is lens_flare's MIUI, mostly because I've always enjoyed the feature integration and themes that MIUI offers, but that in no way addresses your priorities.
Thanks for the inquiry. Hopefully it will get this thread moving again.
ramjet73
ramjet, i need your help
1. What model of the Evo 3D do you have : CDMA
2. What ROM are you currently running? : Viper3D_02Nov12_1459_r218_s
3. Is your Evo 3D rooted and/or S-OFF? YES
My Phone cannot gain root access
can you solved my problem? thanks!
Hello,
1. What model of the Evo 3D do you have (CDMA/GSM, Evo 3D, Evo V, Evo 4G+)
CDMA, Sprint Evo 3D
2. What ROM are you currently running?
SOS M
3. Is your Evo 3D rooted and/or S-OFF?
Rooted, yes.
HBOOT 1.5 S-ON
4. What is important to you in a ROM (features, customization, performance, battery life, etc.)
Stability, battery life
5. Do you plan to run a custom kernel to OC/UV or for additional features like USB host?
No
6. If you have a preference between Sense and AOSP ROM's please include that.
AOSP. Since I use Go Launcher anyways, I'd prefer not having the bulk of Sense
7. Indicate if you are looking specifically for a GingerBread, Ice Cream Sandwich or Jelly Bean based ROM.
ICS or later
8. Must have features that don't work on all ROM's like Wi-Fi tethering, WiMax 4G, and 3D camera.
4G and wifi tethering are required
3D camera (while I rarely use it) isn't something I'm ready to give up. So I'd prefer it to work.
My main concern is I haven't updated my firmware ever (because I'm S-ON). So I'd like to use ROMs similar to SOS M, that use a kernel compatible with my firmware, hboot, etc.
Thanks for the recommendations!
Thanks for posting here. I was thinking of this ROM by Gruesomewolf. It is sense 3.6 so everything works, but also has a desensification option in its installer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1640134
mkokotovich said:
Hello,
My main concern is I haven't updated my firmware ever (because I'm S-ON). So I'd like to use ROMs similar to SOS M, that use a kernel compatible with my firmware, hboot, etc.
Thanks for the recommendations!
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I already mentioned Smooth Criminal and Common Sense/Desensification in the SOS M thread. TerribleLie by NineInchNails is also an interesting Sense 3.6 ROM since it uses the DX Home launcher.
ramjet73
I haven't seen ICS released for the bolt yet so why are we closing the threads saying it's released? As far as I can tell, it's still just vaporware officially.
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Huh?
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draiken78 said:
I haven't seen ICS released for the bolt yet so why are we closing the threads saying it's released? As far as I can tell, it's still just vaporware officially.
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If you're referring to the "HTC thunderbolt ICS update testing in final stages..." thread, i have to believe that it was closed due to a number of "off topic posts" and because the thread itself was based on hearsay instead of verifiable evidence...
If you are curious about the locking of newt's one xxx rom thread (a shame, newt and his rom are awesome), it's because the rom contains cd suite tools... See link below for more on that...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758154
Fair enough.
I do wonder if the bolt will ever see the update officially though. It makes me sad that it didn't get gingerbread until it had been out a full year, even though the Thunderbolt was released like 6 months after Gingerbread. It's like a repeat of history here with ICS.
Personally, I don't see how HTC and Verizon can provide support like this. For me, it's not a matter of whether ics is better than gingerbread or not (well I guess it kind of is). The way I see it though is if you buy a pc or laptop, I don't think people would except not getting the latest updates for at least the 2 years we are under contract for like with phones.
All that being said, my phone still works pretty good, but HTC and Verizon will not be involved with my next phone in March.
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Fair enough.
I do wonder if the bolt will ever see the update officially though.
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it's doubtful. i believe HTC when they say that VZW has the finished update. IMO, the thunderbolt was pushed out prematurely to be the first on the market with 4G LTE. the unique RIL of the bolt has proven to be a mess, and has likely complicated the update process. VZW is the end party responsible for the continuing availability of their services to users and devices that subscribe to them. Serious concerns VZW may have about diminished functionality or overall stability on thunderbolts as a result of pushing the ICS update, especially for stock users (that wouldn't be able to modify or revert a bad ICS update pushed to their devices) may have stopped the thunderbolt's ICS update at VZW's gates altogether.
Personally, I don't see how HTC and Verizon can provide support like this. HTC and Verizon will not be involved with my next phone in March.
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yes. the best thing to do is to take your money elsewhere if you're dissatisfied. the only vote that matters to VZW is that made by the consumer dollar.
The ICS discussion thread you are referring to was closed due to a lot of off-topic posts. The thread had been cleaned in the past, but it seems like it didn't help.
That's why the thread got closed.
Cheers,
YZ.
The other thread was closed by a clueless mod, who claimed that ICS had been released! Go figure. The thread was also being actively trolled, but that wasn't given as a reason for closing it.
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The other thread was closed by a clueless mod, who claimed that ICS had been released! Go figure. The thread was also being actively trolled, but that wasn't given as a reason for closing it.
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It has been released. There are like 4 versions.
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mike.s said:
The other thread was closed by a clueless mod, who claimed that ICS had been released! Go figure. The thread was also being actively trolled, but that wasn't given as a reason for closing it.
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Yes, my apologies. People make mistakes.
Lets continue with our lives, and stop spamming the boards with this little issue.
Cheers,
YZ.
Even though HTC might finish it but there's no incentive for Verizon to authorize it since they rather lock you in with another 2-year contract then provide ICS and let you be contract free.
They will not be locking me in to any kind of new contract.
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I'm starting to think they are having the same problems the devs were with ics and the ril along with the camera. I'm guessing Jester and liquid figured some of them out first.
I really have no idea
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I'm starting to think they are having the same problems the devs were with ics and the ril along with the camera. I'm guessing Jester and liquid figured some of them out first.
I really have no idea
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I keep seeing people mention, that maybe they(HTC) are having issues with the camera or the Ril.
To be honest, the Ril could still be causing them grief, but not the camera.
I understand that the AOSP hacked-together roms have broken camera functionality and poor image quality.
However, that does not eliminate the fact that the camera works just fine in the Sense based ICS leak for our device.
So I find it hard to believe and even impossible that the camera would be what's holding things up.
It works in the Sense 3.6 leaked rom, as well as the custom rom I made from it.
Maybe folks don't even realize that there actually is functional ICS for our devices.
Does it have the best battery life going? Probably not!
Does my rom give ME better battery life then the AOSP ICS rom that everyone is using? It absolutely does!
I finally loaded the AOSP rom for the first time the other day and along with a broken camera, slow data, drops, overheating, 3 hours of battery life, and reboots, I came to the conclusion that the sense based roms are actually much better right now, in my honest opinion.
I know many say it has lag, it's bloated, it's slow, blah blah blah....Well everything works and a few milliseconds in response time isn't enough for me to choose semi-functional over fully functional.
Just my 2 cents....as I don't understand what everyone is still waiting for.
The only thing I could care about at this point from HTC, would be kernel source, period.
To each his own though.
I like to use my camera and don't feel like using my phone as a pocket warmer, while pretending everything is working great!
Bottom line I guess: The camera has absolutely nothing to do with the delayed ICS release.
HTC has no trouble making the camera work.
I agree. Nusense is awesome. I've never seen the point of running custom roms that don't at least have all the basic functions of the stock experience working, (besides maybe to help a custom rom developer to identify bugs/improve the rom) I.E., calls, camera, camcorder, data, wifi, calls, SMS, mms, etc. I appreciate all of our developers, past and present, but nusense is where it's at right now for ICS.
I would like to say and question at the same time...isn't the switch to ICS is a big change. Mainly the CPU/GPU driver for simultaneous use. This change for the thunderbolt is a huge battery drain from my opinion and one of the only reason HTC may be looking away from releasing an update to ICS. AND I think, as a final thought, it's no coincidence the kernel is not available. Bottom line, I love this phone, I like some sense features that Aosp doesn't but every gingerbread and ics Rom with sense have been battery hogs getting 12 hours of low low use. Maybe 1 hour of display and rest idle and radio standby. AOSP seems to be the best for this phone. if anyone can get remotely close to an aosp build in ics with our without sense is love to see it.
I have the rezound battery and under volted with liquid 3.2 gingerbread.
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I would like to say and question at the same time...isn't the switch to ICS is a big change. Mainly the CPU/GPU driver for simultaneous use. This change for the thunderbolt is a huge battery drain from my opinion and one of the only reason HTC may be looking away from releasing an update to ICS. AND I think, as a final thought, it's no coincidence the kernel is not available. Bottom line, I love this phone, I like some sense features that Aosp doesn't but every gingerbread and ics Rom with sense have been battery hogs getting 12 hours of low low use. Maybe 1 hour of display and rest idle and radio standby. AOSP seems to be the best for this phone. if anyone can get remotely close to an aosp build in ics with our without sense is love to see it.
I have the rezound battery and under volted with liquid 3.2 gingerbread.
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With aosp ICS I get pretty much the same battery life I got with aosp gb so I don't know why people aren't getting the same results. As for sense nusense is a great ICS ROM. It is far better than that crap leak that was released. Yea the battery life isn't what it should be considering the kernel in the leak isn't a finished product but at least everything works. In my experience with infected eternity I could get around 17 hours with a rezound battery which is almost better than some of the aosp ROMs I ran on both GB and ICS.
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Hello, first post
Now I have an HTC flyer and that means I am stuck with HC firmware or perhaps maybe GB.
There are a lot of fully functional customized HC ROMS out there, however when it comes to ICS or JB
most of them are buggy and never fully functional.
I am not a developer so I don't think that I have the right to criticize, however from what I see
many developer start an ICS or JB Flyer ROM and than just leave it.
It would be great if you people create some sort of a joint effort and make one stable and functional rom for the flyer.
Some would say just leave the flyer and buy yourself a Nexus or whatever but the thing is there are countries in this world where we can;t afford to just give up on a device and spend money on another one.
So what I would like to have is either an ICS or JB ROM where everything would be functional, however I could live without:
(and these are features that are already not working on the present ICS/JB roms)
-bluetooth
-front camera
-youtube HD (but only HD if regular youtube is missing is not OK)
-videorecorder (however this would be disappointing)
But It wold be awesome if Phone is implemented and Pen (Quill is acceptable also)
So far best ICS ROMS are Yetki (where only problem I had was that wi-fi was not functioning even with manual flashing of the boot.img)
Also another new ROM is this one NexusFlyer in this ROM everything works (except for the above features) but I am not sure if there's a Phone function and the screen rotating is buggy.
So what are you willing to donate towards the developers' efforts? The "you people" in question have lives and families and jobs that require their attention on a daily basis. These ROMs are hobbies for them.
Their works are just voluntaty works.
They don't have any obligation to make roms for us.
They've already done and are doing many things for us, more than HTC
I understand it's a voluntary work and a hobby for most of them, but since they are already doing it, how abot making something that truly benefits people.
HTC has done a horrible job when it comes to the flyer and now we're either stuck woth HC albeit slightly modified, or waiting for the developer community to make something usefull.
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mcord11758 said:
Pick up a book and figure it out yourself
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Ha Ha Ha
I actually wouldn't mind learning how to create a JB or ICS, stable, ROM for the View and Flyer, since there really isn't any. At least for myself.
Where would one start reading?
lets hear from them
DatacomGuy said:
I actually wouldn't mind learning how to create a JB or ICS, stable, ROM for the View and Flyer, since there really isn't any. At least for myself.
Where would one start reading?
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Me also waiting for a useful reply, regarding that.
eastway11 said:
Their works are just voluntaty works.
They don't have any obligation to make roms for us.
They've already done and are doing many things for us, more than HTC
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agree, they do more than htc, it seems like htc forgot that they have made tablet quite disappointed since they have made great tablet realy
Hi I'm newbie posting in here.. Did you already try new ROM ICS that call Yetki..? I have issue for phone function after use this ROM, mic and speaker can't working. Maybe something missing, because I can't find any details whats function didn't work at this ROM.
Please help.. because I like this ROM, smooth, fast and nice to customs again.
Sorry I'm posting in this thread, because I can't posting at development sub-forum.
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Hi I'm newbie posting in here.. Did you already try new ROM ICS that call Yetki..? I have issue for phone function after use this ROM, mic and speaker can't working. Maybe something missing, because I can't find any details whats function didn't work at this ROM.
Please help.. because I like this ROM, smooth, fast and nice to customs again.
Sorry I'm posting in this thread, because I can't posting at development sub-forum.
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Honestly I don;t remember but I think that my phone worked OK, although I didn;t really tested all that well, because
WI-FI wasn' working on my tablet.
There will be an update to the Yetki tommorow (friday) or the next day. From what I saw on the thread
mic/sound issues will be addressed in the update.
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I understand it's a voluntary work and a hobby for most of them,
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Just stop right there. If the devs want to stop developing a ROM, that's their choice. You think what they have done has not truly benefited the people?
It has benefited people no doubt aboit it. Just not in this case, when it comes to the flyer they did better than HTC but I don't see any benefit in using any ICS based Flyer rom, rather than a HC custom rom.
It's complicated simce the Flyer has the scribe technology built in, notes, the e-book reader where you can scribble just like on real paper, front camera, back camera, I understand that it's complicated and maybe it takes time maybe it can not be done.
I don't understand what's with all this negative interpretation of my post, it should be an incentive that we are here we use this device and we would like to see it better.
Also I am not asking the developers to waste time on something useless, I don't need yet another partialy functional ROM, just stop right there say 'we can't do it,it's impossible' and move on to something that will perhaps benefit someone else, some other device. They are developers, it's what they do.
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silfiriel said:
Honestly I don;t remember but I think that my phone worked OK, although I didn;t really tested all that well, because
WI-FI wasn' working on my tablet.
There will be an update to the Yetki tommorow (friday) or the next day. From what I saw on the thread
mic/sound issues will be addressed in the update.
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thx for u'r answer, that different with my tablet, Wi-fi and tethering working fine.
yups.. I be waiting for the update, hope today he update this ROM.
Hey, we are not their employer or their customer.
Whether they stop the development, move to other device or etc., it is just their choice.
If they think something is important, they try to do their best to make it work.(Actually, they do now.)
You don't see any benefit on their ICS rom? Just go back HC or give some useful feedback to them.
using :
HTC Flyer ICS yetki
HTC Desire MIUI ICS
It looks like Yetki is getting an update reały soon as in it only needs to be uploaded and shared, can't wait to test it! I loved it even the first time except wi-fi wasn't working, hoping theu will fix it in the update
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Me also waiting for a useful reply, regarding that.
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IF you really want to develop ICS /JB fully functional ROMs for the HTC Flyer , start by learning how to build the kernel. What we are missing right now is a JB kernel for the Flyer, once that is done, its possible to begin CM10 and other variants of JB. However, be aware that building the kernel and the libs (drivers) for HTC devices can be difficult because not everything is open source.
We can't all be developers, I don't think learning how to build ROMs is as easy as the last few comments made it look. I am assuming some programmers would have a hard time doing so if they haven't had any experience into it let alone ppl that don't code. :/
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It looks like Yetki is getting an update reały soon as in it only needs to be uploaded and shared, can't wait to test it! I loved it even the first time except wi-fi wasn't working, hoping theu will fix it in the update
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for active wi-fi connection try to rollback to HC ROM (I try use leedroid and fastboot flash boot boot.img event I'm not use s-off from htcdev) after running fine, back to recovery full wipe, and upgrade to Yetki ROM without fastboot *.img file again. test running and wi-fi can active again. for tethering just install easytether.
CMIIW
Thanks I will try that.
Does it have to be a HC ROM because right now I am on Dexter's JB port and If I don't have to I'd skip a flash
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