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I'm thinking of buying a GS2 and was curious when I read the review below on Amazon. In particular, the comments in points 1 and 3 regarding CPU/battery usage are a little worrying. Does anyone here agree/disagree with this?
**** 8 WEEK UPDATE ****
Having had this phone for two months now I thought I'd update this. There are several things now about Android and the GS2 in general that are now apparent to me and may be deal-breakers for some of you, though it should be noted that most of these are applicable to all Android phones, and not just the GS2:
1. If you use your phone as your primary music player (e.g. like an iPod) then this is NOT the phone for you - it (as far as I can determine) has no dedicated hardware to decode audio and so it uses a lot of CPU power to play music. The phone will get very hot in your pocket from the CPU heat and within 4 hours the battery will be completely dead. This turned out to be a deal breaker for me as I use my phone extensively for music playback, and the iPhone is still the only phone I know of that gives 40 hours playback.
2. Gapless audio playback is not supported by Android, though some players buffer the next track to simulate the feature (e.g. PowerAmp) if you're willing to pay for them. Gapless playback may be supported in future Android versions, though I don't know how or when one could find out exactly what version of Android will support it.
3. There is a very common bug in the GS2 whereby an application called 'Wifi Sharing' will randomly start itself in the background and consume a huge amount of CPU power (doing nothing) and drain your battery SEVERELY. Your battery will be dead in 6 hours if you don't 'force close' the application. The only solution at the moment if you have this problem is to install something like WatchDog Lite and set up an 'alert' to warn you when Wifi Sharing starts to overtake your CPU so that you can 'force close' it.
4. For all of Android's beauty and the Touchwiz inteface Samsung has put on top of it, I've become aware of some quirks of Android, especially relating to the (VERY) inconsistent use of the menu button. Many applications use this button differently (or not at all), showing different menu items on this button depending on what screen/section you are in on the application. It's definitely not intuitive in this regard compared to iOS, though some applications do use it appropriately and in a logical manner. On the other hand, the 'back' button is fantastic and I think Apple should employ one in their phones, too.
5. Screen burn-in. I've not seen many posts about this around the intertubes, but there is what can only be described as burn-in visible on the notification/status bar of the phone when you are using an application that hides the bar (e.g. having a white section where the status bar would otherwise be displayed). It looks exactly the same as burn-in looks on a plasma television; a slightly dark/grey area where the reception indicator, clock, and other indicators normally display. I suspect this is related to the super AMOLED plus screen technology though most people will probably never notice it - if they did it would be discussed in forums all over the internet.
6. Complications with applications are frequent. Unfortunately it would seem the Android market is severely fragmented due to the shear variety of different Android hardware (i.e. handsets) available. Almost every app you download will have comments attached saying things like 'won't work on HTC Desire... ' or 'If you get the so-and-so issue then uninstall, reset and reinstall' etc., etc., Coming from iOS, this is rather jarring and definitely does not fly on a 500GBP product. Furthermore, with the exception of the very common/popular applications, you are very likely to encounter flakey apps that consume too much battery power or randomly crash/force close (or 'FC' as it's commonly called in the Android community)
7. Speaking of battery power... In my initial review (below) I mentioned how awesome it is to have widgets on the home screen. This remains true, but generally at the expense of battery life. This, combined with the battery drain experienced when using the phone for audio playback will very quickly drain your battery. You will be lucky to last the working day if you also use the phone on the road to receive and respond to emails in addition to your music, surfing, widgets, etc. This may be considered an acceptable trade-off, but no one warns you of it beforehand (at least I wasn't aware of it, and just assumed I'd still get at least a full day out of the battery). I've since learned Android phones have a horrible reputation for poor battery life. Expect to last around 12 hours with medium-light use.
With all the above said, this remains an outstanding phone and by all accounts one of the very best phones available on the market. It is super-fast - faster than my laptop - and the physical design is beautiful. For any existing Android user this phone is a dream. For people coming from iOS, I hope the above update has warned you of some of the limitations on this otherwise outstanding product.
i read it on amazon and laughed my sgs2 is the best phone ive owned if you read the futher reviews people argue his points mate
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i read it on amazon and laughed my sgs2 is the best phone ive owned if you read the futher reviews people argue his points mate
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Is the comment regarding audio playback accurate? (i.e. the lack of dedicated hardware results in excessive CPU usage and battery drain)?
Sounds like an apple employee got bored...
The SGS2 is great for music playback. I use mine every day in work, for 8 hours and only ever get down to about 50%, and that's with some web browsing thrown in and texting.
Also, i thought it decoded most if not all audio formats fine? I have mp3, wav and flac files in my playlists and no problems there at all.
On my one hour daily commute..i listen to music plus screen on time at like 60% full brightness when i switch between songs whilst browsing between my news and football apps..and i probably use about 10-15%.
Wifi sharing annoys me..but i didnt notice extra large battery drops.. when i first got my phone i had wifi on all the time and it was fine. Since then i rooted my phone and 'froze' wifi sharing...so when my wifi is on...i don;t have to worry about it.
The super amoled screen gives this phone an edge on battery life above other android phones even though it still isn't as good as i hoped. And the standby time is really good.
Remember iphone battery is not removable so once you ruin it with the inevitable half charges and overnight charges your in the sh*t. You can atleast buy a spare battery for androids and keep it in your back pocket. lol jus read what i wrote...this phone has turned me into a bit of a fan boy
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Is the comment regarding audio playback accurate? (i.e. the lack of dedicated hardware results in excessive CPU usage and battery drain)?
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i dont understand this the sgs2 has a dedicated yamaha audio chip it isnt running as good as the wolfson from the sgs1 but it is still pretty decent in terms of audio quality
as for cpu useage and excessive drain on the battery i use music all day at work and its fine , it doesnt get hot , it doesnt drain battery badly , it doesnt run cpu at maximum
i use my sgs2 as my main audio device as i have bluetooth stereos in the car and home and some ok headhones from work and i dont have his troubles at all
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Is the comment regarding audio playback accurate? (i.e. the lack of dedicated hardware results in excessive CPU usage and battery drain)?
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The sound card is different from the SGS1, which was considered more efficient. This is why a few sound amplifier apps refuse to work with the SGS2 (Voodoo Sound) etc.
Obviously Samsung decided to cheap out on that aspect.
I have not seen any color burn ins, or anything like that.
You have to remember that people who dont like a product are more likely to write a review .Saying that i use Amazon reviews to get an idea about a product or alternatives a lot before buying .
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Hi, I'm quite familiar with the SGS2 and rooting, Oc/uv, voltage control, custom toms, etc.
I just rooted my dad's wifi only 10.1, and installed galaxy task 10.
One of the reasons I did so was to decrease the charging time of the tab on stock ROM. Unfortunately, it's the same thing with the custom rom.
What else can I do to decrease charging time? Are there specific kernels that are charging optimized and stable? Do 10.1 wifi only roms and kernels support voltage control and if yes, what settings would you suggest?
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Hi, I'm quite familiar with the SGS2 and rooting, Oc/uv, voltage control, custom toms, etc.
I just rooted my dad's wifi only 10.1, and installed galaxy task 10.
One of the reasons I did so was to decrease the charging time of the tab on stock ROM. Unfortunately, it's the same thing with the custom rom.
What else can I do to decrease charging time? Are there specific kernels that are charging optimized and stable? Do 10.1 wifi only roms and kernels support voltage control and if yes, what settings would you suggest?
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Sounds awesome, but I don't think anyone has done anything with that yet. Maybe one of the ROM devs, but I've never seen anything.
best way to charge faster is to turn off the tab
Nvm found a solution
epic 4g touch SGs2
I think the battery drain, slow charging and occasional lag on the 10.1 is holding it back.
I don't like the ipad and I hate apples business model, but I have to say it's a sleeker tablet atm.
I thought custom roms and kernels and rooting might address this issue with the 10.1 and unleash its true potential
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This tab is slow to charge...
but if you are sleeping at least 5-hours/night you don't any problem.
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I think the battery drain, slow charging and occasional lag on the 10.1 is holding it back.
I don't like the ipad and I hate apples business model, but I have to say it's a sleeker tablet atm.
I thought custom roms and kernels and rooting might address this issue with the 10.1 and unleash its true potential
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Shoo, troll.
Please don't post here if you have nothing useful to add
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Agreed the tab is slow to charge, but honestly, even with heavy use, streaming audio, browsing, playing games, downloading, etc I can get 1.5 or so days off a full charge. Definitely can't do that with any smartphone I've had.
And even though we're OT with the performance of the Tab and what's holding it back, I really think the Tegra 2/Honeycomb Rom are what are holding it back. It's not a good combo and neither of the two are impressive by themselves, let alone put together.
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Agreed the tab is slow to charge, but honestly, even with heavy use, streaming audio, browsing, playing games, downloading, etc I can get 1.5 or so days off a full charge. Definitely can't do that with any smartphone I've had.
And even though we're OT with the performance of the Tab and what's holding it back, I really think the Tegra 2/Honeycomb Rom are what are holding it back. It's not a good combo and neither of the two are impressive by themselves, let alone put together.
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I got the 10.1 for my dad as a birthday gift. He loves it and takes it everywhere and loves showing it off to my ipad toting relatives.
But his chief complaint is how long it takes to charge. Sometimes he doesn't use it as much as he'd want to cause it takes so long to charge.
I just rooted his phone and installed galaxy task 10, so I'll see if that helps charging a bit.
Too bad I can't use voltage control to increase charging current. I've looked around the subforum and there's no information on kernels that support voltage control.
With regards to the lag issue, that's more my concern. Compared to my SGS2 which is buttery smooth even with many widgets and live wallpapers, the 10.1 just seems to struggle so much more. With the stock ROM, the tablet was almost impossible to use with a live wallpaper. Compared to my friend's asus transformer, it is still laggy too, leading me to believe it's probably a rom or tw ui issue.
Task 10 has improved the lag issue immensely but it is still there.
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Matrix_19 said:
This tab is slow to charge...
but if you are sleeping at least 5-hours/night you don't any problem.
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True. The problem with my dad is he has no spare socket in his room and has to charge along our hallway. And I don't want him leaving the tab in the hallway for 5-7 hours.
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Please don't post here if you have nothing useful to add
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ditto. 10 chars.
rab1412000 said:
With regards to the lag issue, that's more my concern. Compared to my SGS2 which is buttery smooth even with many widgets and live wallpapers, the 10.1 just seems to struggle so much more. With the stock ROM, the tablet was almost impossible to use with a live wallpaper. Compared to my friend's asus transformer, it is still laggy too, leading me to believe it's probably a rom or tw ui issue.
Task 10 has improved the lag issue immensely but it is still there.
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You are right, however, I'm using the stock ROM with ADWlauncher EX and I can use live wallpaper without any problem
I don't have any lag and everything is smooth.
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You are right, however, I'm using the stock ROM with ADWlauncher EX and I can use live wallpaper without any problem
I don't have any lag and everything is smooth.
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Thanks ill try your suggestion next time I get hold of the tab.
Hoping someone can help with the charging issue still
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get a dual socket plug from your local hardware store - only $6
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True. The problem with my dad is he has no spare socket in his room and has to charge along our hallway. And I don't want him leaving the tab in the hallway for 5-7 hours.
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get a dual socket plug from your local hardware store - only $6
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Have you tried this yourself? If yes, would you mind posting pictures?
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Have you tried this yourself? If yes, would you mind posting pictures?
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Super high tech stuff.
Haha so that's what he meant ok.
My dad's got two of those already. I don't know if it's wise to plug another dual plug to a dual plug.
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I don't know if it's wise to plug another dual plug to a dual plug.
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It depends on the appliances that are being fed by the dual plugs. 5 hairdryers are not a good idea. 5 Galaxy Tabs are no problem. Just add the amps of all appliances and don't overload the fuse or either of the plugs.
The charging time depends on the capacity of the battery divided by the amperage of the charger. The battery of the SGT holds 7Ah (=7000mAh), the charger delivers a maximum of 2A. Under ideal conditions it would take 7Ah / 2A = 3.5 hours to charge the completely empty battery. Since battery charging processes are never ideal (current drops during charging cycle) this time will be exceeded. This is a fact that can't be addressed by software. It's physics. More than 2A via standard USB-Plugs and wiring are "not advisable". So Samsung set the specs accordingly.
The "voltage control" you are talking about changes processor voltage and not charging aspects. You might be able to get half an hour more battery lifetime out of the tab but you're not going to speed up charging.
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It depends on the appliances that are being fed by the dual plugs. 5 hairdryers are not a good idea. 5 Galaxy Tabs are no problem. Just add the amps of all appliances and don't overload the fuse or either of the plugs.
The charging time depends on the capacity of the battery divided by the amperage of the charger. The battery of the SGT holds 7Ah (=7000mAh), the charger delivers a maximum of 2A. Under ideal conditions it would take 7Ah / 2A = 3.5 hours to charge the completely empty battery. Since battery charging processes are never ideal (current drops during charging cycle) this time will be exceeded. This is a fact that can't be addressed by software. It's physics. More than 2A via standard USB-Plugs and wiring are "not advisable". So Samsung set the specs accordingly.
The "voltage control" you are talking about changes processor voltage and not charging aspects. You might be able to get half an hour more battery lifetime out of the tab but you're not going to speed up charging.
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Thanks for the informative post.
One correction though, voltage control can change charging current aside from other things if the Kernel supports it.
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Hi all,
first of all, I'm not a fan boy of any kind. I've been using so many android devices in the last years, I'm more of a tech fanboy then a <brand>fanboy.
Given that, I'm not soddisfied at all with S3: reading and viewing so many preview and review of this phone, I though it will last more than one day and that it would be fast as hell and lag free, at least, this is what everyone is saying in every damned review I saw/read.
I had in these passed 6 month: gaalxy s2, sensation, galaxy note, sensation xe, galacy nexus and right now htc one x and sgs3.
Well, the sgs3 is not so much better as everyone is saying, in particular, is not better at all of htc one x as every comparison review is stating.
What's up? Is that just me or what? My sgs3, with the same operator's sim is lasting less than htc one x and it's not fluid at all, at least while scrolling through homes!!! Of course, even the one x has some microlagging while scrolling through homes, but I though sgs3 would have no lag at all.
Does anyone else see it?
What it's really strange dealing with battery drain, is that the phone drains a lot even while in standby. The first voice in my battery stats is phone cellular stanby? How can it drain more than the screen???
Any "smart" answer is very appreciated, but please, avoid phrases like "you got a lemon, change it": what I'm saying it's not that it lasts me4 hours, I can get through the whole day with sgs3. But it does not last more than one day as everyone is stating! I mean: I get 17h unplugged with 3h screen on, it's on par with all the other phones I had...but not with Galaxy note or One X, they really last more than one day.
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Can you make a video of the lag so that we can see what you're experiencing? because I and most people have a smooth interface so maybe an app or your setup is causing problems?
Regarding the battery life, I got something like 22 hours with 5 hours screen-on (screenshot in battery life thread in general) and that was with pretty heavy usage - games, videos, web browsing. But you're right there's definitely high cell standby drain in the current firmware. Hopefully it can be fixed. Also, there's an led notification app, can't remember what it's called, that has a bug that drains the battery on the gs3. See the battery life thread in general for more info.
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Can you make a video of the lag so that we can see what you're experiencing? because I and most people have a smooth interface so maybe an app or your setup is causing problems?
Regarding the battery life, I got something like 22 hours with 5 hours screen-on (screenshot in battery life thread in general) and that was with pretty heavy usage - games, videos, web browsing. But you're right there's definitely high cell standby drain in the current firmware. Hopefully it can be fixed. Also, there's an led notification app, can't remember what it's called, that has a bug that drains the battery on the gs3. See the battery life thread in general for more info.
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Hi, first of all, thanks for your answer. I'm not talking about huge lag, but the tipical microlag that you get while scrolling through homes in every android phone up to nowdays. I got some microlag while scrolling on HTC One X too.
If I can I will upload something tonite.
Your battery stats is great: 22h with 5h screen-on is a very good result. Do you use data connection always on? How many charge cycle did you perform?
Anyway, no, I'm not using light flow as my phone is still on stock rom, no mod yet!
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Yeh wifi and 3g always on. here's a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26864539#post26864539
But even with the good results I'm getting, I don't think the phone would last 2 days because of the high cell standby drain. Its definitely a problem that needs to be fixed.
Regarding the lag. I get UI framerate drops in the following:
- Task switcher if there are a lot of apps open
- Browser bookmarks with thumbnails enabled
But they're the only areas that I've noticed have noticeable fps drops. Another annoying thing is for example the ABCDEF... list to the right of the contacts list, it seems to take a second or so to become responsive when you start dragging your finger down it, kinda spoils the experience.
Also, touchwiz launcher seems to need to reload when RAM gets used up.
So yeh it's not perfect but overall it's lightning fast and battery life is superb. Will be even better with software updates
I'm getting 1day 5 hours with 7 hours screen on and minimal standby drain.
The only lag I experience is 'sticky' vertical scrolling.
I did drop touchwiz in favor of go launcher but that was only because I found it too boring.
So far this phone has more than lived up to my expectations.
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Yeh wifi and 3g always on. here's a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26864539#post26864539
But even with the good results I'm getting, I don't think the phone would last 2 days because of the high cell standby drain. Its definitely a problem that needs to be fixed.
Regarding the lag. I get UI framerate drops in the following:
- Task switcher if there are a lot of apps open
- Browser bookmarks with thumbnails enabled
But they're the only areas that I've noticed have noticeable fps drops. Another annoying thing is for example the ABCDEF... list to the right of the contacts list, it seems to take a second or so to become responsive when you start dragging your finger down it, kinda spoils the experience.
Also, touchwiz launcher seems to need to reload when RAM gets used up.
So yeh it's not perfect but overall it's lightning fast and battery life is superb. Will be even better with software updates
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Do you mean you have no lag at all (neither a micro lag) when scrolling through homes?
Yes, noticed the launcher reload sometimes.
I don't know, maybe it's just me 'cause I had so many phones and in particular an HTC One X to compare it with? I don't find it any faster than one x but in web browser, nor it lasts more than one x! :/
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I'm getting 1day 5 hours with 7 hours screen on and minimal standby drain.
The only lag I experience is 'sticky' vertical scrolling.
I did drop touchwiz in favor of go launcher but that was only because I found it too boring.
So far this phone has more than lived up to my expectations.
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Wondeful battery stats. Lucky you or unlucky me?
Do you use 3G data always on?
Just curious: which mobile phone do you have before buying the s3?!?!
Aratheba said:
Do you mean you have no lag at all (neither a micro lag) when scrolling through homes?
Yes, noticed the launcher reload sometimes.
I don't know, maybe it's just me 'cause I had so many phones and in particular an HTC One X to compare it with? I don't find it any faster than one x but in web browser, nor it lasts more than one x! :/
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No noticeable fps drops when swiping through the home screens no. I only have widgets on 4 pages though so will try adding more and see if that makes a difference.
I also owned a hox (tegra3) but returned it because of the bad battery life and laggy browsing (tried lots of 3rd party browsers too) and ui fps drops, overheating and screen flex.
I had a hd2 and had managed to get pretty good battery life on it as well.
I find a lot of little things add up.
I let very few apps sync.
I have black or dark backgrounds wherever possible.
I don't use haptic feedback.
I only use gsm unless I'm actually doing something that requires more speed but I do have data always on.
I switch WiFi and GPS off when not in use.
I use auto brightness.
I use betterbatterystats and battery monitor pro to keep an eye on things.
I avoid battery savings apps like the plague as they invariably increase battery drain.
Hope some of these help.
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No noticeable fps drops when swiping through the home screens no. I only have widgets on 4 pages though so will try adding more and see if that makes a difference.
I also owned a hox (tegra3) but returned it because of the bad battery life and laggy browsing (tried lots of 3rd party browsers too) and ui fps drops, overheating and screen flex.
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That's funny, I have a tegra 3 One X and I have none of the problem you had, or, at least:
- first one x rom was quite laggy, now it's much better, on par with s3, but always with some microlag
- no overheat but when playing heavy games like shadowgun, while s3 gets really hot even when just surfing
- very decent battery life, better than s3
- no screen flex
- no laggy browser until flash player is on demand
Oh well, maybe my One X is an S3 and the S3 is a One X!?!?
Joking apart, you can notice microlag when you scroll very fast through homes both on One X and on S3. I have 5 pages and widget on every page on both phones.
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I had a hd2 and had managed to get pretty good battery life on it as well.
I find a lot of little things add up.
I let very few apps sync.
I have black or dark backgrounds wherever possible.
I don't use haptic feedback.
I only use gsm unless I'm actually doing something that requires more speed but I do have data always on.
I switch WiFi and GPS off when not in use.
I use auto brightness.
I use betterbatterystats and battery monitor pro to keep an eye on things.
I avoid battery savings apps like the plague as they invariably increase battery drain.
Hope some of these help.
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I have several app syncing (4 gmail account, 1 yahoo account and 1 exchange account, everyone along with its calendar part), twitter every 30 min, beautiful widget weather every 1h. GPS always on, 3g data always on. Auto brightness on all the time.
I see, using gsm only, no gps and few apps syncing really extend battery life, but I want to be able to fully use my phone. Moreover, both One X and S3 have the same apps, the same account synced and almost the same widgets (sense one apart), but One X last longer!
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For those who are rooted, just go to /system/build.prop and change the dalvik size from 256m to 128m
Seems that it helps to solve this issue...
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Joking apart, you can notice microlag when you scroll very fast through homes both on One X and on S3. I have 5 pages and widget on every page on both phones.
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I have widgets on all 5 pages and absolutely no at all (scroll it fast or slow or go superfast, no lag whatsoever!)
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I have widgets on all 5 pages and absolutely no at all (scroll it fast or slow or go superfast, no lag whatsoever!)
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Do you only have 5 pages? Why have I got 7?
Anyway I placed widgets on all 7 pages and swiped really fast and have no lag or fps drops whatsoever. Maybe a particular widget is causing the problem?
I found using the live wallpapers caused my home screen to reload and caused lag. Since changing to a static wallpaper everything has been nice and quick with no re-drawing
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I found using the live wallpapers caused my home screen to reload and caused lag. Since changing to a static wallpaper everything has been nice and quick with no re-drawing
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Of course, I've already tried everything I could in order to lessen the lag: I'm using a static wallpaper, but micro lag is there. Maybe it's ust a matter of defying what microlag is: if I do scroll fast through home pages I have some microlag, I can see the animation is not completely fluid.
I have the following widgets: beautiful widget clock 4x1 (but I tried even with samsung standard plain digital clock), google search widget, music widget, stock ics calendar widget, plume (but I even tried with the static official twitter widget), photo gallery widget, weather pro widget.
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Of course, I've already tried everything I could in order to lessen the lag: I'm using a static wallpaper, but micro lag is there. Maybe it's ust a matter of defying what microlag is: if I do scroll fast through home pages I have some microlag, I can see the animation is not completely fluid.
I have the following widgets: beautiful widget clock 4x1 (but I tried even with samsung standard plain digital clock), google search widget, music widget, stock ics calendar widget, plume (but I even tried with the static official twitter widget), photo gallery widget, weather pro widget.
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Personally worked for me so I thought I'd see if it helped
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That's funny, I have a tegra 3 One X and I have none of the problem you had, or, at least:
- first one x rom was quite laggy, now it's much better, on par with s3, but always with some microlag
- no overheat but when playing heavy games like shadowgun, while s3 gets really hot even when just surfing
- very decent battery life, better than s3
- no screen flex
- no laggy browser until flash player is on demand
Oh well, maybe my One X is an S3 and the S3 is a One X!?!?
Joking apart, you can notice microlag when you scroll very fast through homes both on One X and on S3. I have 5 pages and widget on every page on both phones.
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My phone is stone cold while surfing
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One more thing: using SpyCPU I saw that sgs3 it's for 70% of its total standby time in deep sleep, while one x it's for 80%. Moreover, one x has more states with low CPU freq (100mhz, 70, 50) while sgs3 has 400mhz as lower freq used state, 300 and 200 are unused. :/
I guess that the Tegra companion core going so low in frequencies...
Is there a real difference? I thought I read somewhere that somebody got optimal battery life and performance by running GB over JB.
Is this true?
I believe it. Newer versions of Android have cool new stuff. Unfortunately cool new stuff runs in the background. So an older version of Android may have less stuff running in the background.
However we have some pretty cool devs that can cook up some smooth roms and may increase battery life.
I myself think it all depends on the user. How many apps or tasks running depends on you. Also using dark or black themes can greatly help improve battery life. The screen on my phone with a solid white picture can be on for 4 hours. Where it can stay on for 8 hours displaying a black picture. Also cell signal matters. A slow weak signal drains faster. Being on Wi-Fi helps.
There's just Soooo many factors to consider!!
440bro said:
I believe it. Newer versions of Android have cool new stuff. Unfortunately cool new stuff runs in the background. So an older version of Android may have less stuff running in the background.
However we have some pretty cool devs that can cook up some smooth roms and may increase battery life.
I myself think it all depends on the user. How many apps or tasks running depends on you. Also using dark or black themes can greatly help improve battery life. The screen on my phone with a solid white picture can be on for 4 hours. Where it can stay on for 8 hours displaying a black picture. Also cell signal matters. A slow weak signal drains faster. Being on Wi-Fi helps.
There's just Soooo many factors to consider!!
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Yea I know that much is very true, just when I had a Note I didn't have a chance to try out the 2 firmwares to see which one worked longer and better so I could tell whether JB really was a improvement or a glorified enhancement.
Invest in a backup battery and carry it in your lunch box or whatever. Run jellybeans. It's worth it, then over clock and under volt.
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Invest in a backup battery and carry it in your lunch box or whatever. Run jellybeans. It's worth it, then over clock and under volt.
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Yea I've got a ebay buy it now auction saved for a generic 5400mah battery and a official mugen 5400mah battery back cover...
I won my mom a Note for 140 for christmas, she's 66 and has carpel tunnel syndrome and even had surgery on her wrists and had something done where they clip the veins and arteries and then reattach them. Had a crudy lil lg dynamic and a resistive touchscreen loved android but the soft screen wouldn't cooperate with the way she touched it, that and she even said it was too small and needed something like my note 2 with the bigger screen and buttons.
Next up on the list is to create a simple one or two paged dumbed down minimalistic theme that's lockable and can't have the widgets rearranged accidentally by hard slip of the hand(Sometimes she presses things too hard or not hard enough, barely any feeling in her fingers at all), then load the local grocery, drug and retail store app's on it a couple receipt app's qvc, shophq and hsn on it for her too.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the OP2 is missing the following..
- QHD display
- NFC
- USB 3.1 support
- Rapid Charge
- Wireless Charging
- SD Slot
- Removable Battery
- CyanogenMod
- FM radio?
Personally having a hard time understanding the hype here. And it'll cost $425 with tax for decent size storage and 4GB of RAM.
nfc is the deal breaker for me but i'll still get it, just to mess around w/it
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the OP2 is missing the following..
- QHD display
- NFC
- USB 3.1 support
- Rapid Charge
- Wireless Charging
- SD Slot
- Removable Battery
- CyanogenMod
- FM radio?
Personally having a hard time understanding the hype here. And it'll cost $425 with tax for decent size storage and 4GB of RAM.
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I'm still excited for this phone and as for your missing features, here are my views
- QHD display - Thankfully it doesn't have. QHD is a battery drainer and seriously who watch a QHD movie on a smartphone. On day to day use no one notice a difference.
- NFC - yes its lacking. but i have hardly ever used NFC before. and google wallet is still limited to US (even there it's underdeveloped)
- USB 3.1 support - yup its lacking
- Rapid Charge - honestly gonna miss this feature.
- Wireless Charging - nah usb c makes up for it (kind of)
- SD Slot - 64gb will be enough for me so no complains
- Removable Battery - 1080p display, 3300mah battery should be enough to get me through day. for emergencies I have 10000mah power bank
- CyanogenMod - I'm a iPhone guy as of now, planning to move to android. so never used Cyanogen Mod. But I have read that Oxygen OS is close to stock android. so it's a good thing (I guess)
- FM radio? - having this would have it awesome but even without radio 64gb is more then enough for good media library.
Just hoping to get an invite now to enjoy android device
NFC is a deal breaker for me. In Denmark they have already rolled out mobile payment to a lot of stores and it's not slowing down. I'm really surprised that they left it out. How much can it really cost?
Although it is missing a lot of features, but I still want to buy.
#noNFC #noBuy
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If you think about those features... Would you really miss them? And weigh them in with the number of improvements...
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Biggest thing for me is the rapid charging. No nfc that's ok
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Rapid charging is important. After seeing what my friends note 4 can do I really like it.
not worried about nfc only used it for sending pics anyway.
QHD, SD Slot and Removable battery (and even the Wireless charging) are not "missing", it is you who expected them and they are not there.
Also it was old news that CyanogenOS will not be on the OP2, but still hopes for CM 12.1 +
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QHD, SD Slot and Removable battery (and even the Wireless charging) are not "missing", it is you who expected them and they are not there.
Also it was old news that CyanogenOS will not be on the OP2, but still hopes for CM 12.1 +
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exactly, I mean really that stuff is not a big deal what people make it to be. NFC really just slide your card or use paypal, use Bluetooth to send your pics. Quick charging might get put in a kernel. As for the type c they really should've went all the way with that. For what we get for 389 I am very happy
Cyanogen shouldn't be on your "missing" list.
just wondering why nobody is talking about the real bummer, even here on XDA?
here it comes:
search for custom roms for dual sim devices, no matter whether google search or xda search, result close to zero.
honestly speaking that's a no go for me, never ever shall i trade in my perfectly tuned phone and user experience for a naked OS with almost none of the features i want and partly "NEED"
i started a discussion on the topic here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/general/discussion-custom-roms-dual-sim-devices-t3168136
Are you sure there is no rapid charge? As I know, rapid charge is built into snapdragon, correct me if I'm wrong
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Are you sure there is no rapid charge? As I know, rapid charge is built into snapdragon, correct me if I'm wrong
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Yeah, apparently the necessary hardware is missing as in there is no power controller that could handle any sort of fast charging in the device
I wonder how fast it will achieve full charge, with such a big battery... I love my OPO as the charging is really great especially sometimes when I can juice up for 30 mins only. But I've read somewhere that OPO doesn't have quick charge too?
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I consider the lack of Waterproof ability to be the most significant missing feature about the OP2.
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Yeah, apparently the necessary hardware is missing as in there is no power controller that could handle any sort of fast charging in the device
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Has that been confirmed? This wouldn't be the first device to support QC2.0 without any mention from the company, presumably because they're not including a charging brick that supports it.
Sim nfc
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/3ew4wa/adding_nfc_to_the_oneplus_two_with_an_additional/
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