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We've updated a bit....
Download Link: [Here]
We now have a complimentary app on the app store for this A4D App.
What is A4D?
The goal of A4D is for us to move beyond just N1 make it an all in one flashing/upgrading/android utility. We just added a ROM library with MD5s. We are not going to be hosting the actual ROMs by themselves so if you report a dead link, they will be taken down (after a number of reports). You can also add your own ROMs as well into the library.
The ROM library will be supported by both Android and Desktop App. We are rewriting the Desktop apps so that we can do all 3 platforms in one, Linux, Windows, and Mac. You'll love the layout of the app. That's all we can say for now.
Oh one more thing. The android app won the best android app award at the Mobile in the Middle Hack-a-thon over the weekend in Chicago (on 3/6/2010).
I would like you guys to try out the app and tell us feedbacks. Also feel free to add your own ROMs to the Database and tell us how we can make the DB better. There a number of features we are trying to add as well. But with our full time jobs... things are going a little slower than we wanted. Sorry.
Requirements to run the app on Android: Amon_RA's recovery. That's what we tested it with.
Reserved
Reserved for Future Updates / Changelog
Can't wait to see if this is fool proof.
Add md5 check. Make it in this way: user have to enter/copy-past md5 hashsum from forum/site. Program calculates md5 of image and says image is good or bad. Also you can disable flashing with out this check. ;-)
good idea. Will do that. That will help with flashing screwed up downloads.
Hi
Thank you for sharing the application.
Does it flash the radio too? I mean CyanogenMod has two files a radio ROM and a CyanogenMod ROM. Does it flash both of them to the phone?
Thanks.
Radio flash is in there we took it out. May do so in the next release but radio flashing is dangerous (can brick phones) so...
Hey Lwin,
Nice concept man, this is gonna prove very handy for many peeps.
You've come up trumps again
So, this is a desktop application?
Does it flash ROM's from your desktop or copy them over and just run the commands on the phone for you?
I ask, as I'm having some problems flashing now, based round a slightly faulty Micro SD card. Does it store backups on the phone or on your desktop PC?
This program is written so you don't have to do command line commands. Everything else remains the same. If you are doing a Nand backup, it goes where it used to go.
I would recommend fixing your "slightly faulty Micro SD card" by getting a new card.
nice app for those that aren't familiar with cmd or jus pure...lazy lol
maybe the screens should be bigger as quite hard to see clearly whats available.
Pure Genius...
seraph1024 said:
Here is the GUI tool for unlocking, updating, restoring, flashing of the N1 (and in theory should work on all HTC androids).
Try it out and see if it is useful. The tool is made to help for people with very basic skills since the tool at this stage is a wrapper for the shell commands at this point.
Again, as usual, we take no responsibility for loss of sleep, loss of phone or screw ups on our side (due to app) or on your side (due to lack of ability to follow instructions).
I wish to make it more simple. We welcome feed backs.
Seraph1024 - ShadowPyro
Download Link: [Here]
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Hey Seraph, This is getting better and better everyday.. How is your windows and android port.. Oh and don't forget there little buddy, I need you on my Mobility Team when we arrive to the scene.. Android and Audi... Almost there....
Edit: Okay, can't run on Mac, of course will in VMware, can you please make this mac native too... It would be great as per what MooMoo said, for all who are lazy...
shadowpyro said:
This program is written so you don't have to do command line commands. Everything else remains the same.
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But I don't use command line now. I didn't realise anyone did. Do you not just boot into RA Recovery and flash from there?
shadowpyro said:
I would recommend fixing your "slightly faulty Micro SD card" by getting a new card.
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Thanks, I didn't ask for advice.
GodDriven said:
Hey Seraph, This is getting better and better everyday.. How is your windows and android port.. Oh and don't forget there little buddy, I need you on my Mobility Team when we arrive to the scene.. Android and Audi... Almost there....
Edit: Okay, can't run on Mac, of course will in VMware, can you please make this mac native too... It would be great as per what MooMoo said, for all who are lazy...
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There will be a mac port sometime this week. I can most likely port to linux too but if you know linux and if you have to use wrapper, you have an issue
install issues
I tried to install it but got a system update required....
extracted the sdk to the folder C:\android-sdk-windows
extracted android4dummies and clicked setup
I get a pop up with the following:
unable to install or run the application. the application requires that system assembly system.data, entry version 3.5.0.0 be installed in the global system cache.....???
What do I do now?
Sounds like the app uses .NET framework 3.5.
So goto microsoft website an get 3.5 .Net Framework.
pwvandeursen said:
I tried to install it but got a system update required....
extracted the sdk to the folder C:\android-sdk-windows
extracted android4dummies and clicked setup
I get a pop up with the following:
unable to install or run the application. the application requires that system assembly system.data, entry version 3.5.0.0 be installed in the global system cache.....???
What do I do now?
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You do need .Net 3.5. It should have asked you, if not installed that as a prerequisite.
I went to MS and downloaded the .net 3.5 installed it (apparently it was already on my pc, so instead of installing I tried to repair it. no success....
pwvandeursen said:
I went to MS and downloaded the .net 3.5 installed it (apparently it was already on my pc, so instead of installing I tried to repair it. no success....
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Can you send us a screenshot.
Do not unzip into C:\android-sdk-windows. App will install SDK or search for the SDK there.
Unzip on your desktop or temp and install from there.
just to be clear, I unzipped adroid sdk and placed in the mentioned location. the android4dummies is extracted on the desktop and executed from there..
so should I remove the SDK and retry?
Hi together,
I'm trying to root my Huawei Vision U8850. There seems to be only very little information about this phone available, and I've had no luck so far trying various methods.
I've tried SuperOneClick 2.3.3, UnlockRoot, DooMLoRD v4 and some other batch scripts, with no avail. The problem seems to be that the phone is running with Android 2.3.7, and most of the tools are using the Zerg Rush exploit, which seems to have been fixed in 2.3.7.
Zerg Rush always returns a "[-] Hellions with BLUE flames" message, which I suppose means that it failed.
Does anybody know a way of how to get root for this phone?
I've found a Chinese(?) forum where they asked the same question it seems, but I couldn't register there without some sort of code. Maybe somebody knows actually Mandarin/whatever.
translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbs.huaweifan.com%2Fshouji-15208--2.html resp. bbs.huaweifan.com/shouji-15208--2.html (links not clickable I'm afraid).
Some more information:
Model
HUAWEI-U8850
Android Version
2.3.7
Kernel-Version
Apps_2.6.32.9-perf
Build-Nummer
U8850 V100R001C169B244SP22
// Edit
Rooted firmware (Huawei.Vision.U8850.Rooted.Firmware.V100R001C279B244SP22.Android.2.37.rar):
ww*.mediafire.com/?aaqs7vt7aavv3
I've found a Russian forum with quite much activity regarding the U8850 Vision. Problem is, I don't speak Russian, and registering on that forum requires you to input a Cyrillic CAPTCHA, which of course didn't work with Window's Character Map.
I've tried to translate the instructions on how to get root from this post: 4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=257207&st=1700#entry14246750
I am however not sure if I understood everything correctly, or if Google Translate was working correctly.
I'm also not sure what exactly the "Russian Channel" firmware will do to my phone (e.g. phone is only in Russion, keyboard is in cyrillic, GPS not working, etc).
The firmware can be found on the official Huawei page (alongside a "Japan softbank" version): huaweidevice.com/worldwide/technicaIndex.do?method=gotoProductSupport&productId=3812&tb=0
Below is my take on the instruction (which I haven't tried yet). Does this sound plausible to you?
Instructions updated, see below.
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*** NOTE ***
The forum software won't allow me to post links, and obviously it corrupts text links. So if there appears a space within a link, you have to remove it for the link to work.
Ok, I've successfully performed the root now by creating a custom firmware which includes su, busybox and Superuser.
I've uploaded the firmware here:
mediafire.com/?aaqs7vt7aavv3
To flash the firmware, you will need the "U8850 Upgrade Tool V1.8.4" from here:
ww*.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/downloadCenter.do?method=toDownloadFile&flay=software&softid=NDQwNjQ=
This will erase all of your user data, so save anything before you do this. And of course I'm not responsible if anything bad happens to your phone, all I can say is that it worked for me.
The firmware is based on a Slovenian one found here:
johnnyparanoia.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Huawei%20U8850
I've labelled this method the "Russian Root", because I found the initial instructions on a Russian forum. I've translated the instructions and added anything missing to it.
See below for a detailed instruction on how to create a custom rooted firmware for yourself.
/**
* Russian Root
* Gaining root permissions on the Huawei Vision U8850 with Android version 2.3.7
* Originally posted at 4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=257207&st=1700#entry14246750
* Translated into English, re-arranged items and added some stuff
* I've also replaced the Russian based firmware with a Slovenian, because it was newer
* Discussion Thread: ww*.handy-faq.de/forum/huawei_u8850_vision_forum/227127-huawei_u8850_vision_root_rooten.html
* Credits go to Sanaes & freedroid
*/
You'll need both Windows and Linux to perform this update (e.g. a second computer, multiboot or a virtual machine).
In Windows:
1) Download the "U8850 Upgrade Tool V1.8.4" from here:
ww*.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/technicaIndex.do?method=gotoProductSupport&productId=3812&tb=0
2) Download the "U8850 (Android 2.3.7)V100R001C279B244SP22(Slovenia TUS Mobil)" firmware from johnnyparanoia.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Huawei%20U8850 or madmodder.co.uk/huawei/u8850/huawei-u8850-firmware-list.htm and extract the contained firmware (we need the SFC-244M-0-8025-A03.nb0 file)
3) Download nb0-utils.jar from yadisk.cc/d/MbFUvzN6bic
4) Download busybox from yadisk.cc/d/JIWwvYPNblL
5) Download su from yadisk.cc/d/XtZXIL9rble
6) Download Superuser.apk from yadisk.cc/d/7TQNlhsFbm1
The following steps need to be performed under Linux:
7) Create and navigate to the folder where you want copy the downloaded files to (e.g. "sudo mkdir /home/username/u8850/")
8) Create a folder where you want the firmware to extract to: (e.g. "sudo mkdir /home/username/u8850/extracted/")
9) Copy the downloaded files to the folder you just created in step 7), using a usb flash drive or whatever means you have (e.g. "sudo cp /path/where/they/are/saved/*.* /home/username/u8850/")
10) Go to that folder: "cd /home/username/u8850/"
11) Unpack the downloaded firmware into the "extracted" folder, using the following command: "sudo java -Xmx512m -jar nb0-utils.jar unpack SFC-244M-0-8025-A03.nb0 /home/username/u8850/extracted"
- Note #1: if this doesn't work, try to install Java first: "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre"
- Note #2: extracting the firmware requires quite a lot of RAM, hence we added the "-Xmx512m" flag which allows Java to use up to 512 MB of RAM. Make sure your Linux machine has this much RAM available!
12) The extracted file "SF8-0-244M-0002-system.img.ext3" contains the Android file system, so we need to mount this file.
- To mount it, we first need to create a folder in /media/: "sudo mkdir /media/android"
- And then we mount the file to that location: "sudo mount /home/username/u8850/extracted/SF8-0-244M-0002-system.img.ext3 /media/android/"
13) Copy the previously downloaded "busybox" file to /media/android/xbin/: "sudo cp /home/username/u8850/busybox /media/android/xbin/"
14) Change the file permissions to 755: "sudo chmod 755 /media/android/xbin/busybox"
15) Copy the previously downloaded "su" file to /media/android/bin/: "sudo cp /home/username/u8850/su /media/android/bin/"
16) Change the owner and group of that file to root: "sudo chown root /media/android/bin/su" and "sudo chgrp root /media/android/bin/su"
17) And the rights to 6755: "sudo chmod 6755 /media/android/bin/su"
18) Copy the previously downloaded "Superuser.apk" file to /media/android/app/: "sudo cp /home/username/u8850/su /media/android/app/"
19) And change the permissions to 644: "sudo chmod 644 /media/android/app/Superuser.apk"
20) Now unmount the image file again: "sudo umount /media/android"
21) And pack the firmware again into a .nb0 file: "sudo java -Xmx512m -jar nb0-utils.jar pack /home/username/u8850/firmware_rooted.nb0 /home/username/u8850/extracted/"
Now we're finished in Linux, the actual flashing has to be done in Windows.
22) Somehow transfer the newly created firmware_rooted.nb0 file to Windows (e.g. with a USB stick).
23) Unpack and install the "U8850 Upgrade Tool V1.8.4". This will install a "SUT L3" program ("Software Update Tool") and the USB drivers for the U8850 Vision.
24) Connect your phone with a USB cable and use the Software Updater to flash the firmware_rooted.nb0 to the phone.
Don't get (too) nervous during the flashing and booting procedure, it does take quite a while.
After completion, all of your data will be reset and the phone should now be rooted. To check, use e.g. "Root Checker" from the market or any app that needs root rights.
Alternative (original) nb0-utils.jar download location:
dl.dropbox.com/u/1134234/AndroidTeam/utils/nb0-utils.jar
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Hi,
I would like to ask if there are any problems after rooting (with gps etc.) ?
I also use stock Slovenian firmware and have bought a phone at Mobitel:
Android Version
2.3.7
Kernel-Version
Apps_2.6.32.9-perf
Build-Number
U8850 V100R001C279B244SP26
kingeedorah said:
Hi,
I would like to ask if there are any problems after rooting (with gps etc.) ?
I also use stock Slovenian firmware and have bought a phone at Mobitel:
Android Version
2.3.7
Kernel-Version
Apps_2.6.32.9-perf
Build-Number
U8850 V100R001C279B244SP26
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I haven't noticed any particular problems which I could connect to the rooting process. Yesterday it did take the phone quite a while before getting a GPS fix, but it has done that before (seems to be a general problem for me, even with AGPS settings), but GPS itself was working fine after that.
I'm also having some issues where the internal partition (resp. the /system/ folder) reports an error that there's no space left on the device, e.g. when trying out AdAway instead of AdFree Android. And the latter was working fine.
Besides that, it's working fine. I can call / be called, camera is working, music is working, radio is working (if you can call that working).
I haven't figured out yet how to install the Clockworkmod Recovery yet though. It's still requiring a valid certificate for the update.zip on the Recovery screen, that hasn't changed.
Hi guys,
U8850 Update Tool crashes when trying to flash a phone with the rooted imaged, works just fine with other images. Anyone else facing this problem ?
spoonium said:
*** NOTE ***
The forum software won't allow me to post links, and obviously it corrupts text links. So if there appears a space within a link, you have to remove it for the link to work.
Ok, I've successfully performed the root now by creating a custom firmware which includes su, busybox and Superuser.
I've uploaded the firmware here:
dl.dropbox.com/u/5387565/Android/Huawei.Vision.U8850.Rooted.Firmware.V100R001C279B244SP22.Android.2.37.rar
To flash the firmware, you will need the "U8850 Upgrade Tool V1.8.4" from here:
ww*.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/downloadCenter.do?method=toDownloadFile&flay=software&softid=NDQwNjQ=
This will erase all of your user data, so save anything before you do this. And of course I'm not responsible if anything bad happens to your phone, all I can say is that it worked for me.
The firmware is based on a Slovenian one found here:
johnnyparanoia.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Huawei%20U8850
I've labelled this method the "Russian Root", because I found the initial instructions on a Russian forum. I've translated the instructions and added anything missing to it.
See below for a detailed instruction on how to create a custom rooted firmware for yourself.
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napalmique said:
Hi guys,
U8850 Update Tool crashes when trying to flash a phone with the rooted imaged, works just fine with other images. Anyone else facing this problem ?
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Nevermind, it was the filename that confused the Update Tool, changed the filename to a shorter one and it worked, it flashed it, now booting.
need help
I would like to download from
dl.dropbox.com/u/5387565/Android/Huawei.Vision.U8850.Rooted.Firmware.V100R001C279B2 44SP22.Android.2.37.rar
but error come out.
Can you please re upload that file again?
Thank you.
adp71500 said:
I would like to download from
dl.dropbox.com/u/5387565/Android/Huawei.Vision.U8850.Rooted.Firmware.V100R001C279B2 44SP22.Android.2.37.rar
but error come out.
Can you please re upload that file again?
Thank you.
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Yes, I'm afraid Dropbox doesn't really like public links, they've disabled that feature temporarily for my account. Although I severly doubt I've really reached the limit of 20 GB/day for this single file...
I've uploaded the file to Mediafire now, although I had to split the archive to make that work. I hope it'll live longer there.
mediafire.com/?aaqs7vt7aavv3
Help
spoonium said:
Yes, I'm afraid Dropbox doesn't really like public links, they've disabled that feature temporarily for my account. Although I severly doubt I've really reached the limit of 20 GB/day for this single file...
I've uploaded the file to Mediafire now, although I had to split the archive to make that work. I hope it'll live longer there.
mediafire.com/?aaqs7vt7aavv3
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Could you please, reupload the rooted firmware is empty the folder in mediafire
spoonium said:
*** NOTE ***
3) Download nb0-utils.jar from yadisk.cc/d/MbFUvzN6bic
4) Download busybox from yadisk.cc/d/JIWwvYPNblL
5) Download su from yadisk.cc/d/XtZXIL9rble
6) Download Superuser.apk from yadisk.cc/d/7TQNlhsFbm1
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Can you please be kind and upload those 4 files somewhere for i can take them? I searched on google but i don't know how good those files are and i don't want to make something stupid with my phone.
Thanks in advance and keep up the good work!:laugh:
CWM
hi guys
I also installed the pre rooted firmware and cant figure out how to get CWM on there which is how i assume the jelly bean goes on?...
can anyone help... I have just had thing a day and want jelly bean on there soonest!,,
cheers guys...
spoonium said:
Hi together,
I'm trying to root my Huawei Vision U8850. There seems to be only very little information about this phone available, and I've had no luck so far trying various methods.
I've tried SuperOneClick 2.3.3, UnlockRoot, DooMLoRD v4 and some other batch scripts, with no avail. The problem seems to be that the phone is running with Android 2.3.7, and most of the tools are using the Zerg Rush exploit, which seems to have been fixed in 2.3.7.
Zerg Rush always returns a "[-] Hellions with BLUE flames" message, which I suppose means that it failed.
Does anybody know a way of how to get root for this phone?
I've found a Chinese(?) forum where they asked the same question it seems, but I couldn't register there without some sort of code. Maybe somebody knows actually Mandarin/whatever.
translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbs.huaweifan.com%2Fshouji-15208--2.html resp. bbs.huaweifan.com/shouji-15208--2.html (links not clickable I'm afraid).
Some more information:
Model
HUAWEI-U8850
Android Version
2.3.7
Kernel-Version
Apps_2.6.32.9-perf
Build-Nummer
U8850 V100R001C169B244SP22
// Edit
Rooted firmware (Huawei.Vision.U8850.Rooted.Firmware.V100R001C279B244SP22.Android.2.37.rar):
ww*.mediafire.com/?aaqs7vt7aavv3
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My SUT L3 is error
napalmique said:
Hi guys,
U8850 Update Tool crashes when trying to flash a phone with the rooted imaged, works just fine with other images. Anyone else facing this problem ?
---------- Post added at 02:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:09 PM ----------
Nevermind, it was the filename that confused the Update Tool, changed the filename to a shorter one and it worked, it flashed it, now booting.
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Can you remember what the error message was when the filename was too long? Did it look like this:
Error Code: 0xc60e
Error: Download fail,
Error = SE_ERR_SUT_DETECT_DEVICE_FAIL (0xC60E).
How to install CWM on it?
shub said:
hi guys
I also installed the pre rooted firmware and cant figure out how to get CWM on there which is how i assume the jelly bean goes on?...
can anyone help... I have just had thing a day and want jelly bean on there soonest!,,
cheers guys...
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Ditto. Should I just flash it with U8850 Upgrade Tool? How can I get CWM on the pre-rooted Jelly Bean ROM?
Hi! I flash the rooted firmware and now it's rooted! Thanks!
In another forum i found the jellybeamV3.zip but i can't enter in recovery to flash that ... any help?
How can i flash now with a zip file? Thanks!
Teovenezia said:
Hi! I flash the rooted firmware and now it's rooted! Thanks!
In another forum i found the jellybeamV3.zip but i can't enter in recovery to flash that ... any help?
How can i flash now with a zip file? Thanks!
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since you have rooted, you can use it. why would you need jellybeamv3?
I recently recieved a Double Power M975 9" tablet as a gift. I have been unable to find any information regarding rooting this tablet.
I am not a total n00b, but rooting is not my forte. I can follow instructions and make logical connections well enough to do a root, but I am honestly at a loss for how to root this thing.
I don't know what all information is required for someone smarter than I to figure it out and relay the steps, but here's the basic info of the Tablet.
Double Power M975 (aka DOPO)
Android Version 4.04
Kernel 3.08+ (also says [email protected] #99, dunno if that's important)
Build Number A9 v01b
Internal Storage is 0.98Gb, with NAND Flash of 5.27Gb, and I have a 32Gb Micro SD card in it.
9" Screen
If anyone knows how to root this thing, or if you need more info, please let me know below.
Thanks in advance.
Im having the same problem man
No123abc said:
Im having the same problem man
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I'm actually surprised there isn't more info or already a guide for this specific tablet, as it's available at Walmart and online, it's cheap and is the best option in its price range for size and the fact that is has Google Play pre installed. It's not a powerhouse, to be sure, but it has been around long enough that I thought someone would know how to root it already. I just wish I knew enough about rooting Android to figure it out myself.
bump
I'm still not having any luck finding any info on rooting this specific device, or even generic root for 4.04.
blackholepcs said:
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I'm still not having any luck finding any info on rooting this specific device, or even generic root for 4.04.
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Was in the same boat as you, so did some poking around the past few days. Just managed to root my Double Power M-975.
First problem was getting ADB drivers installed for the tablet. I found baudi's pdf that did it for me (attached below). Followed that, until the actual rooting at the end. To root, I used SferaDev's Root Rk29 Toolkit (also attached).
Hope this works for you too!
coldpint said:
Was in the same boat as you, so did some poking around the past few days. Just managed to root my Double Power M-975.
First problem was getting ADB drivers installed for the tablet. I found baudi's pdf that did it for me (attached below). Followed that, until the actual rooting at the end. To root, I used SferaDev's Root Rk29 Toolkit (also attached).
Hope this works for you too!
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DUDE!!! Thank you so much! It totally worked!
For anyone who reads this, know that the linked .pdf is out of date. The majority of it is still valid, however the adb_usb.ini file does not exist. You will have to manually create it in the listed location (make sure to remove the .txt extension and make it an .ini) and the sdk manager file does not exist. You can access the sdk manager through eclipse.exe in the Eclipse folder.
coldpint said:
Was in the same boat as you, so did some poking around the past few days. Just managed to root my Double Power M-975.
First problem was getting ADB drivers installed for the tablet. I found baudi's pdf that did it for me (attached below). Followed that, until the actual rooting at the end. To root, I used SferaDev's Root Rk29 Toolkit (also attached).
Hope this works for you too!
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This worked great! Thank you!! Now I have to figure out how to make a custom rom...
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blackholepcs said:
DUDE!!! Thank you so much! It totally worked!
For anyone who reads this, know that the linked .pdf is out of date. The majority of it is still valid, however the adb_usb.ini file does not exist. You will have to manually create it in the listed location (make sure to remove the .txt extension and make it an .ini) and the sdk manager file does not exist. You can access the sdk manager through eclipse.exe in the Eclipse folder.
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You must have downloaded the ADT Bundle. I did too the first time.
On the Android SDK website if you click "Download for other platforms" then under "SDK tools only" select the zip file for windows you will get the package referred to in the pdf.
I also had to go into device manager and manually update the driver via the method described in the pdf.
The more you know...
Okay so how come I'm the only one not having any luck with this? I'm new to the whole rooting thing BTW...
DanaDizane said:
Okay so how come I'm the only one not having any luck with this? I'm new to the whole rooting thing BTW...
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What exactly are you having issues with? Are you getting errors? Can't download something? Be specific. The more information you give the better we can help you. Write a story if you need to.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
Anyone Know how to get CWM?
Thanks a bunch!
coldpint said:
Was in the same boat as you, so did some poking around the past few days. Just managed to root my Double Power M-975.
First problem was getting ADB drivers installed for the tablet. I found baudi's pdf that did it for me (attached below). Followed that, until the actual rooting at the end. To root, I used SferaDev's Root Rk29 Toolkit (also attached).
Hope this works for you too!
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Thanks so much for sharing this information! I just got my tablet today and I'm about to try this. My daughter has the 7" inch tablet by dopo and I'd like to find info. on how to root hers too. I've looked for months for this info. since we got hers.
Whew hoo! One thing's for sure, I can always come here to get the best android resources!
for ADB USB drivers for your computer, download: pdanet+
I was having problems with loading Android ADB USB drivers on my computer by way of methods found for this post but found that USB drivers loaded correctly when I installed PDAnet+ for the computer. So if you are having problems installing Android ADB USB drivers give pdanet+ a try
dopo M975 Root!!!!
root unlock software free from web i used it took me about 30 secs to root still having prob with custom rom so if anybody has any ideas that would be great. download free run plug tablet in and hit root. unlockroot.com
another option for root
root rk29 tab toolkit 1.3 google it already on xda
Problem with .ini file
coldpint said:
Was in the same boat as you, so did some poking around the past few days. Just managed to root my Double Power M-975.
First problem was getting ADB drivers installed for the tablet. I found baudi's pdf that did it for me (attached below). Followed that, until the actual rooting at the end. To root, I used SferaDev's Root Rk29 Toolkit (also attached).
Hope this works for you too!
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Hi, I know u posted a while back. I tried this on my M975, but my PC doesn't install the driver; it says incorrect line on INI file . Would u be willing to post your INI so I can see if we got the same format? Also, could u please explain how u used the root kit to actually root? Thnx.
Hey all.
I have a DOPO EM63 7" tab, and I'd like to share how I rooted it. I figure most of the DOPO devices will be the same.
1.) Install JDK, Android SDK (the zip file {choose download for other platforms}) and do everything else in steps 1-12 from the pdf in this thread.
2.) Go here (xda link) and do steps 2-11
3.) Laugh about how easy it was.
If anyone can't look at the pdf and other thread, I can post full steps.
It works. Out of every method I've tried, this one worked.
I have to add, some steps are outdated (ie. Step 7 from the link: just click "Root" on the pc screen)
And yes, the program is in Chinese - but it is easily understood (everything you need is in English)
Also, I don't know if the Moborobo program is necessary (seeing as we have drivers already) but it doesn't hurt to use it anyway.
orangeisnon said:
Hey all.
I have a DOPO EM63 7" tab, and I'd like to share how I rooted it. I figure most of the DOPO devices will be the same.
1.) Install JDK, Android SDK (the zip file {choose download for other platforms}) and do everything else in steps 1-12 from the pdf in this thread.
2.) Go here (xda link) and do steps 2-11
3.) Laugh about how easy it was.
If anyone can't look at the pdf and other thread, I can post full steps.
It works. Out of every method I've tried, this one worked.
I have to add, some steps are outdated (ie. Step 7 from the link: just click "Root" on the pc screen)
And yes, the program is in Chinese - but it is easily understood (everything you need is in English)
Also, I don't know if the Moborobo program is necessary (seeing as we have drivers already) but it doesn't hurt to use it anyway.
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Has anyone found a customs recovery for these dopo tablets or Roms? The 7" I got my Lil one last yr from walmart was rooted out of the box.
i got a m980 model and for some reason every time i turn off and on start with Chinese letter and need be configured again any idea?
orangeisnon said:
Hey all.
I have a DOPO EM63 7" tab, and I'd like to share how I rooted it. I figure most of the DOPO devices will be the same.
1.) Install JDK, Android SDK (the zip file {choose download for other platforms}) and do everything else in steps 1-12 from the pdf in this thread.
2.) Go here (xda link) and do steps 2-11
3.) Laugh about how easy it was.
If anyone can't look at the pdf and other thread, I can post full steps.
It works. Out of every method I've tried, this one worked.
I have to add, some steps are outdated (ie. Step 7 from the link: just click "Root" on the pc screen)
And yes, the program is in Chinese - but it is easily understood (everything you need is in English)
Also, I don't know if the Moborobo program is necessary (seeing as we have drivers already) but it doesn't hurt to use it anyway.
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I get to the step where I press root on the comp while it's open on my computer, an the program crashes and I fail to get root.....any clue?
EDIT: For those of you with a DOPO em63. It took a lot of research and digging, but I found an app called RootGenius. Very simple program, I ran it and it worked.
Here is the post, it's here on xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/gen...uble-power-em63-7-4-2-2-t2811412/post54045765.
Oh happy day!
cstryon said:
EDIT: For those of you with a DOPO em63. It took a lot of research and digging, but I found an app called RootGenius. Very simple program, I ran it and it worked.
Here is the post, it's here on xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/gen...uble-power-em63-7-4-2-2-t2811412/post54045765.
Oh happy day!
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That's awesome! I actually cracked mine (a single tear rolls down my cheek) but a relative gave me hers, which is an identical model (tear dries up instantly), so I'll try this as soon as I can. Will let you all know what happens.
I'll check my build, too.
Thanks for the info!
EDIT: Please make that your signature ("Oh happy day!"). That would make me very happy.
Hello guys!
I'm starting this thread as I managed to install win10 on my X90L (Android) YogaBook
It was not easy to find a way to fix the ACPI error but it is possible!
Will update this post in a few hours with a guide on how to do it yourself.
UPDATE: link to the guide -> poz1.com/windows-on-android-lenovo-yogabook/
PLEASE NOTE THAT IF YOU CONTINUE YOU WILL END UP WITH A YOGABOOK WITHOUT INPUT DEVICES!!!
(EXTERNAL KEYBOARD WILL BE NEEDED) AND NO ANDROID INSTALL!!!
So far i got almost everything working except:
- Touchscreen
- Keyboard
- Webcam in the keyboard panel (the other one works fine)
- NFC
- Backlight Control (added 25/5/2018)
I'm getting very near to have the touch and the keyboard working though
P.s. In attach you find the outputs from 3DMark - IceStorm Extreme (default settings), would be much appreciated if someone with the real Win version shared its score
Any chance of posting you work to date. Got an X90F just crying out for Windows.
Broomfundel said:
Any chance of posting you work to date. Got an X90F just crying out for Windows.
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I have added the link to the guide! If yo have any issues let me know but keep in mind that currently no input devices (touchscreen or keyboard) work!
Thanks for posting this. I am really so impressed. Will be trashing my X90F tomorrow. Just got to dig out a powered USB hub. Ill report back, and lets see what happens.
(Hopefully not a brick)
OK,
So far so good. I get to the amending of the of aml. But keep getting.
Intel ACPI Component Architecture
ASL+ Optimizing Compiler/Disassembler version 20180508
Copyright (c) 2000 - 2018 Intel Corporation
iASL: Segmentation Fault
iASL: Terminating
To clarify the process. Decompile the DSTDroid.aml, then insert the OperationRegion (GNVS, SystemMemory, 0x7B3CF000, 0x0369)
Field (GNVS, AnyAcc, Lock, Preserve)
{ etc.. } section from the DSTDroid.dsl and use it to replace the equivalent section in the DSTWin.dsl in your files.
Then compile the DSTWin.dsl with the
iasli -ta DSDTWin.dsl
command.
This is how I am reading it, but have not managed to get it to work yet.
It decompiles with the two errors you mention, but wont recompile no matter how I try it.
I am using Notepadd++ so its not hidden characters.
Any thoughts, and thanks again for your efforts on this.
Broomfundel said:
OK,
So far so good. I get to the amending of the of aml. But keep getting.
Intel ACPI Component Architecture
ASL+ Optimizing Compiler/Disassembler version 20180508
Copyright (c) 2000 - 2018 Intel Corporation
iASL: Segmentation Fault
iASL: Terminating
To clarify the process. Decompile the DSTDroid.aml, then insert the OperationRegion (GNVS, SystemMemory, 0x7B3CF000, 0x0369)
Field (GNVS, AnyAcc, Lock, Preserve)
{ etc.. } section from the DSTDroid.dsl and use it to replace the equivalent section in the DSTWin.dsl in your files.
Then compile the DSTWin.dsl with the
iasli -ta DSDTWin.dsl
command.
This is how I am reading it, but have not managed to get it to work yet.
It decompiles with the two errors you mention, but wont recompile no matter how I try it.
I am using Notepadd++ so its not hidden characters.
Any thoughts, and thanks again for your efforts on this.
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Hello Broomfundel,
I never got that error, but it seems to be a problem of the ASL Compiler build not of your file.
I am using Mac so I have another build, if you want to post the file I can compile it for you .
Otherwise you can try an older release or to build the tool from source maybe?
Poz1 said:
Hello guys!
I'm starting this thread as I managed to install win10 on my X90L (Android) YogaBook
It was not easy to find a way to fix the ACPI error but it is possible!
Will update this post in a few hours with a guide on how to do it yourself.
UPDATE: link to the guide -> poz1.com/windows-on-android-lenovo-yogabook/
PLEASE NOTE THAT IF YOU CONTINUE YOU WILL END UP WITH A YOGABOOK WITHOUT INPUT DEVICES!!!
(EXTERNAL KEYBOARD WILL BE NEEDED) AND NO ANDROID INSTALL!!!
So far i got almost everything working except:
- Touchscreen
- Keyboard
- Webcam in the keyboard panel (the other one works fine)
- NFC
I'm getting very near to have the touch and the keyboard working though
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Hi, i have the Lenovo Yoga Book Windows version, im crying to install Stock Android on it, can you PLZ write a guide about doing it, or at least if there is a way to install the kernelflinger.efi or the fastboot mode on YB windows it will be great.
to fix the whole bugs you faced, try to reinstall windows 10 using this methode https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/how-to/windows-guide-creating-windows-10-t3718823
Thanks
THE MAXIMUM POWER said:
Hi, i have the Lenovo Yoga Book Windows version, im crying to install Stock Android on it, can you PLZ write a guide about doing it, or at least if there is a way to install the kernelflinger.efi or the fastboot mode on YB windows it will be great.
to fix the whole bugs you faced, try to reinstall windows 10 using this methode https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/how-to/windows-guide-creating-windows-10-t3718823
Thanks
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Hi,
KernelFlinger is opensource and come with an installer, it should be pretty simple to install it.
Right now I don't have my YogaBook as I am travelling but I can try in the next few days
OK, Older release worked, but I get a .hex file, your instructions talk about a new aml file. Do I use the .hex file or is there another option other than the -ta one that would create the aml.
BTW. I am enjoying this. So thanks again.
Broomfundel said:
OK, Older release worked, but I get a .hex file, your instructions talk about a new aml file. Do I use the .hex file or is there another option other than the -ta one that would create the aml.
BTW. I am enjoying this. So thanks again.
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With the -ta option I get both the .hex and the .aml file but you can try -tc if it doesn't work. Maybe due to the different build
P.s. (for other people that may incur in this) If you don't get the output files check that you have as last line of the terminal
"Compilation complete. 0 Errors"
OK, I am getting 7 errors. My current theory is that the DSTDWin.dsl will only compile with the same version number of the compiler it was decompiled with. I have attached my DSDTDroid.dsl so you can have a go. At least it will prove I got things right up to that point. Might be worth posting the original DSTDWin.aml for me to try this end.
If we are lucky it might turn out that the patched DSTDWin.aml files are consistent across the same model devices.
So... It seems both pen mode and keyboard mode of holo keyboard won't work... Am I right?
It's sad that if they won't work even we install the drivers from the lenovo website
Poz1 said:
Hi,
KernelFlinger is opensource and come with an installer, it should be pretty simple to install it.
Right now I don't have my YogaBook as I am travelling but I can try in the next few days
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can after installing Windows booting to kernelflinger? if you can make a thread about how can you install/reinstall kernelflinger will be amazing?
Thank you
Poz1 said:
Hello guys!
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Have you tried with the ISO from this forum with the Windows injected drivers? Here https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/how-to/windows-guide-creating-windows-10-t3718823
As Poz1 is obviously busy at the moment. Can anyone else get the DSTDWin.aml file for me to try and decode?
Thanks
Sorry guys I've been busy with university
Broomfundel said:
OK, I am getting 7 errors. My current theory is that the DSTDWin.dsl will only compile with the same version number of the compiler it was decompiled with. I have attached my DSDTDroid.dsl so you can have a go. At least it will prove I got things right up to that point. Might be worth posting the original DSTDWin.aml for me to try this end.
If we are lucky it might turn out that the patched DSTDWin.aml files are consistent across the same model devices.
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There you go I'm also updating the files DSTDWin of my blog with one with some fixes Well they depend on the settings you use in your Bios (that's why Windows may not boot after install, it changes some parameters (the wait time of the bios and the default boot partition)). When you use the builtin one is the bios that "updates" it for you but for now we need to do it by hand If we are going to end with everything working we can release a patched "Win" bios and everything will be simpler
Riskypedia said:
So... It seems both pen mode and keyboard mode of holo keyboard won't work... Am I right?
It's sad that if they won't work even we install the drivers from the lenovo website
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I know There something in the DSDT (the file that tells the os which and where your pc components are) that has to be fixed to make Windows see these parts correctly
THE MAXIMUM POWER said:
can after installing Windows booting to kernelflinger? if you can make a thread about how can you install/reinstall kernelflinger will be amazing?
Thank you
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Didn't try Will do as soon as I have some free time :fingers-crossed:
Kinyapiplele said:
Have you tried with the ISO from this forum with the Windows injected drivers? Here https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/how-to/windows-guide-creating-windows-10-t3718823
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Yep, but the problem is in the DSDT Thanks fot the input anyway
Poz1 said:
Sorry guys I've been busy with university
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Don't worry, we all have real lives as well. I'm in the UK and we have a bank holiday on Monday. So this weekend, Ill get stuck in again.
Thanks for all your doing on this. You have already got further than anyone else who tried.
let me know if you have more problems
I have added a 3DMark test in the first post for those that are interested in how it performs
Poz1 said:
let me know if you have more problems
I have added a 3DMark test in the first post for those that are interested in how it performs
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Just another Question, you as a Advance user, do you believe that we (yoga book Windows owners) can boot Android yb STOCK ROM ( i mean not the Android x86 based distros)?
Yes, but I think you would have to do the "reverse" DSDT injection (from win to android) as the official ROM has drivers for that components.
This means that, if you're lucky you would end up with our same problems (keyboard, pen and touch). If we don't fix that before
The problem with Android is that it is meant to be flashed on rom instead of being installed and this makes things more difficult.
It should be possible to flash the rom on an USB key, add grub and use it for DSDT injection like we do and see what happens.
Another problem is that the provided kernelflinger seems to have most of the security options enabled so 99% it will refuse to boot anyway.
Since it is opensource it should be possible to fix this anyway.
So yes, but it a loooong journey
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Live Linux System:
It can be run on any Computer as:
Burn into a CD, or USB Flash Drive, boot into any Computer
Run it as a Virtual Machine using any Virtualization Software
355 MB iso file
Click HERE to Download HP_Touchpad Novacom Repair Android
Novacom Drivers to load:
TPToolBox by jcsullin -- Reflash battery A6 Firmware ( Only)
Create Boot -- Repair boot
TWRP Recovery 3.2.1 by Flintman -- Flash any Android ROM
Wipe All Create Android with Swap Partition -- Make Tablet 100% Android with Swap
Make changes to Android
Android Debug Bridge ( ADB ) -- Control and make changes to Tablet using TWRP Recovery or Android
Media Transfer Protocol ( MTP ) -- Transfer files using TWRP or Android
Ramdisk -- Customized all settings for the Tablet
VNC Server -- Allows to control a connected HP Touchpad from anywhere.
VNC Viewer -- Connect to VNC Server to make changes to any connected HP Touchpad
Web Browser -- Download any ROM or flash file need it to update the HP Touchpad.
How to Videos:
User Interface
Load the ToolBox
Ramdisk from zip flash files
Ramdisk from /boot uImage
Screenshots:
How to Burn the ISO file onto a CD; USB Flash Drive or use it as a Virtual Machine
The Palm Novacom Driver is the essential to communicate with the HP Touchpad to repair it, if is not booting into the moboot menu.
The drivers are not been updated and must be install on old Operating System to work properly. As new PC Operating System are updated the Palm Novacom Driver may become unstable or not work at all.
The provided ISO file is a Puppy Linux 32 bit compatible with Ubuntu Bionic (Latest version)
Click HERE for the Original Version of BionicPup32
Click HERE for the Puppy Linux Main Web Page
Basic instructions:[/U][/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]
To burn the ISO file to a CD, use the Operating System software or the free ImgBurn.exe for Windows
Click HERE for ImgBurn for Windows
Use it in a Virtual Machine
Click HERE for Virtual Box
Click HERE for VM WARE Player
To create a boot-able Live USB drive using UNetbootin:
Click HERE to Download UNetbootin for Windows, Linux and MacOS
Good news HP_TOUCHPAD,
It seems like I am the first 'layman' to install HP_TOUCHPAD's Novacom repair tool.
I feel like the first man on the moon! Because it was quite an adventure.
First I had to mount an E: drive using Virtual Clone Drive software so I could place the HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Repair_Android.iso file on that drive. This step did not need to be done, but I am glad I did it because I was able to see all the indivual files that made up the .iso file. As you see in the below pic on drive E:
Then I installed and ran the VM player and loaded the .iso file, but it was complaining that the setting vt-X had to be enabled. So I actually had to go into my PC's BIOS to enable that setting. But as you see in the below pic everything is working now, I just plugged in my Touchpad to my PC, and ran the Toolbox option, and would you believe it, the toolbox came up on my Touchpad, and then I reset the batteries A6 firmware with it. I also tested the WipeAll icon and it also worked with success.
So this tool that HP_TOUCHPAD has created would make J.C. Sullins proud.
DoubleStuff said:
Good news HP_TOUCHPAD,
It seems like I am the first 'layman' to install HP_TOUCHPAD's Novacom repair tool.
I feel like the first man on the moon! Because it was quite an adventure.
So this tool that HP_TOUCHPAD has created would make J.C. Sullins proud.
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You did it the hard way and congratulations!
There is no need to mount the ISO file.
In the Virtual Machine Software, on your case VM Ware Player, just select the ISO file as the operating system to install, remember there is no installation is a Live CD. On the Virtual Machine settings it only needs 1GB of RAM to run or less. Just Run the Virtual Machine and as it shows, once you connect the Tablet to the host then it will ask if you want to connected to the guest machine. Using a Virtual Machine allows not to reboot your Main PC ( host ).
There is no worries about upgrading windows or any OS in fear that the Palm Novacom driver will stop working.
This should work in a Virtual Machine environment for EVER until we die, because the Tablet will keep working.
Burning a CD or a USB flash drive will allow to boot into any PC, anywhere you go. If anyone finds an HP Touchpad in a dumpster somewhere, using this ISO will provide everything need it to have all done from a complete data reset, to the ToolBox and installing any ROM !
HP could have done the same and use the WebOS Dr, on a Linux CD, providing the Palm Novacom drivers and all the details, it would have avoid a lot of confusion with the boot symbols, but to save half a penny it was not included in the box with the Tablet and now the Palm web site is down with no option for a regular user to get the Tablet working. The ToolBox is an Arm Linux architecture of 67MB that loads into memory.
I'll leave all this hocus pocus to your guys. I have two Windows 10 laptops with Novacom drivers installed and they work fine. I did have the one PC where the driver became corrupted, but a simple uninstall/ reinstall fixed it without issue. I personally don't subscribe to one must use a PC with an old operating system installed to get Novacom to work. BTW, what do you call an old operating system, XP? After 9 years of playing of with TouchPads, I have never had a problem installing or using Novacom. Any driver can become corrupted on any PC and a simple reinstall will fix it. I have never not been able to fix a driver issue on any PC that reinstalling the driver did not fix the issue. I am not saying that your method does not have a place in someone's software toolbox. But Novacom is so easy to install. Just right click on the Novacom Installer and click "Install" and in few seconds, it is installed. Put the TPTBv42, TWRP or WipeAll batch files in the Palm, Inc. folder and run them. That just seems so much easier than burning ISO's to CD' s or thumb drives or in VM's and watching all these tutorials to learn how to use your Novacom Repair method. I'm not a software junkie like you guys. I like straight forward and simple. And one click to install Novacom is SIMPLE!
Hats off to you HPTP for creating an interesting method. Just not my cup of tea.
Smithy
smithylovestouchpad said:
I'll leave all this hocus pocus to your guys. I have two Windows 10 laptops with Novacom drivers installed and they work fine. I did have the one PC where the driver became corrupted, but a simple uninstall/ reinstall fixed it without issue. I personally don't subscribe to one must use a PC with an old operating system installed to get Novacom to work. BTW, what do you call an old operating system, XP? After 9 years of playing of with TouchPads, I have never had a problem installing or using Novacom. Any driver can become corrupted on any PC and a simple reinstall will fix it. I have never not been able to fix a driver issue on any PC that reinstalling the driver did not fix the issue. I am not saying that your method does not have a place in someone's software toolbox. But Novacom is so easy to install. Just right click on the Novacom Installer and click "Install" and in few seconds, it is installed. Put the TPTBv42, TWRP or WipeAll batch files in the Palm, Inc. folder and run them. That just seems so much easier than burning ISO's to CD' s or thumb drives or in VM's and watching all these tutorials to learn how to use your Novacom Repair method. I'm not a software junkie like you guys. I like straight forward and simple. And one click to install Novacom is SIMPLE!
Hats off to you HPTP for creating an interesting method. Just not my cup of tea.
Smithy
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All valid points Smithy, I too have Novacom installed on my Windows 10 64bit laptop, but last time I checked more and more Novacom links to install the software were broken and they were getting harder to find, and I was hearing of others having issues trying to install it on newer PC's.
So the idea of having a Novacom permanently ready to go appealed to me, in case, when we go to Windows 11 or 12 and Novacom does not install, I have learned this new method and will be ready. That being said, I dont really use my Touchpads too much, I just like playing around with new install methods and reading these threads on XDA, and maybe helping a newbie or two. Like you said it would be fun if JC Sullins came back for a day or two and made some final comments on the state of the HP TOUCHPAD, but I guess he did not reply to HP_TOUCHPAD's request to have permission to change the TP Toolbox code for some important modifications that have been needed since 2015 and the advent of incompatible zips. Boy that term is also a blast from the past as was "ttinstall" which is going on in another thread as we speak.
smithylovestouchpad said:
I'll leave all this hocus pocus to your guys. I have two Windows 10 laptops with Novacom drivers installed and they work fine. I did have the one PC where the driver became corrupted, but a simple uninstall/ reinstall fixed it without issue.
It took you very long time to figure that out to a point of just given up, go to this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016636&postcount=406
And there was more than that,
I personally don't subscribe to one must use a PC with an old operating system installed to get Novacom to work.
Eventually it will come to that, in the software business nothing has lifetime support, the codes are changing with every update. That is why Virtualization has become so important, any software or Operating system can be use on new hardware if need it, or have a Live Linux CD to repair a broken Operating System. Is not hocus pocus, it is how is done at the present time.
BTW, what do you call an old operating system, XP? After 9 years of playing of with TouchPads, I have never had a problem installing or using Novacom. Any driver can become corrupted on any PC and a simple reinstall will fix it.
You did not know the driver was corrupted, had to use another PC to resolve the issue and any OS update can render the driver useless and the user will not even know it and then again blame the Tablet for been ""brick".
Old is when the Software Company will not update the OS anymore, on January 2020 Windows 7 becomes OLD.
I have never not been able to fix a driver issue on any PC that reinstalling the driver did not fix the issue. I am not saying that your method does not have a place in someone's software toolbox. But Novacom is so easy to install. Just right click on the Novacom Installer and click "Install" and in few seconds, it is installed. Put the TPTBv42, TWRP or WipeAll batch files in the Palm, Inc. folder and run them.
It is not as easy as you are stating, you are the perfect example. You did not know how to load an uImage into the Tablet. The user must be aware and know how to use the novacom command
novacom boot mem://
That just seems so much easier than burning ISO's to CD' s or thumb drives or in VM's and watching all these tutorials to learn how to use your Novacom Repair method. I'm not a software junkie like you guys. I like straight forward and simple. And one click to install Novacom is SIMPLE!
Having the Novacom installed on any PC will not fix any Tablet when connected. Plug in a tablet with the triangle or USB symbol to any of your PC with the novacom driver and it will not even show anywhere.
What does the user do then?
Connect the Tablet to an up to date OS and it will not recognized it, not even automatically download the drivers for it from the OS update servers, which in theory by Plug and Play any device connected to the new OS should be recognized and automatically search and install the driver.
Hats off to you HPTP for creating an interesting method. Just not my cup of tea.
Smithy
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On the next Operating System upgrade, the support for old drivers could be block or it could actually crash the system. Does that mean the PC can not be updated or maintain just to use the Novacom drivers to get something done on the Tablet.
Every user can use any method that is easier for them, but the more options and solutions the better as you never know when it maybe need it.
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All valid points Smithy, I too have Novacom installed on my Windows 10 64bit laptop, but last time I checked more and more Novacom links to install the software were broken and they were getting harder to find, and I was hearing of others having issues trying to install it on newer PC's.
So the idea of having a Novacom permanently ready to go appealed to me, in case, when we go to Windows 11 or 12 and Novacom does not install, I have learned this new method and will be ready. That being said, I dont really use my Touchpads too much, I just like playing around with new install methods and reading these threads on XDA, and maybe helping a newbie or two. Like you said it would be fun if JC Sullins came back for a day or two and made some final comments on the state of the HP TOUCHPAD, but I guess he did not reply to HP_TOUCHPAD's request to have permission to change the TP Toolbox code for some important modifications that have been needed since 2015 and the advent of incompatible zips. Boy that term is also a blast from the past as was "ttinstall" which is going on in another thread as we speak.
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I was always under the impression that all this is open source. That as long as credit was given, one could modify and adapt any thing related to Android, Linux and the like. Why would Sullins care if HPTP updated and improved TPTB? If he has the knowledge and skills, all five or ten of us who still use a TouchPad would benefit. When you run TPTB, no where do you see anything about it being copyrighted or that modifying or improving it is prohibited. Where people get in trouble, they take a program or app, rename it, put their name on it and put it out as their own.
So what is going on concerning ttinstall in another thread? Link?
Smithy
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HP_TOUCHPAD said:
On the next Operating System upgrade, the support for old drivers could be block or it could actually crash the system. Does that mean the PC can not be updated or maintain just to use the Novacom drivers to get something done on the Tablet.
Every user can use any method that is easier for them, but the more options and solutions the better as you never know when it maybe need it.
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You missed commenting on a couple of statements I made, 1. I am not saying that your method does not have a place in someone's software toolbox. 2. Hats off to you HPTP for creating an interesting method. It's just not my cup of tea. Those were complements.
Lastly, you are WRONG, I did and do know how to load a uImage, it was the corrupted Novacom driver that was throwing me a curve. Once I used a second PC to prove it could be done, I went back to the first PC, and reinstalled the Novacom drivers. That's called trouble-shooting pal. And your link to post 406 proves my point.
Smithy
DoubleStuff said:
All valid points Smithy, I too have Novacom installed on my Windows 10 64bit laptop, but last time I checked more and more Novacom links to install the software were broken and they were getting harder to find, and I was hearing of others having issues trying to install it on newer PC's.
The universal Novacom installer stopped working long ago, it was an interesting and effective concept back then.
So the idea of having a Novacom permanently ready to go appealed to me, in case, when we go to Windows 11 or 12 and Novacom does not install, I have learned this new method and will be ready.
It is 100% reliable every single time, and if use on a Virtual Machine the user can fix the Tablet no matter what type of OS or how new the PC, as long as it has USB ports.
That being said, I dont really use my Touchpads too much, I just like playing around with new install methods and reading these threads on XDA, and maybe helping a newbie or two. Like you said it would be fun if JC Sullins came back for a day or two and made some final comments on the state of the HP TOUCHPAD,
The HP Touchpad is a Palm device that uses WebOS. The experts for this type of operating system can be found at
https://www.webosnation.com/
but I guess he did not reply to HP_TOUCHPAD's request
I did not contacted JC Sullins as the account on XDA has not been active.
to have permission to change the TP Toolbox code for some important modifications that have been needed since 2015 and the advent of incompatible zips. Boy that term is also a blast from the past as was "ttinstall" which is going on in another thread as we speak.
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The thread about modifying the ToolBox can be found on my guide, read it !
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/Click HERE for how to modify the ToolBox
Also to mentioned, the HP Touchpad is the perfect Device to learn Android OS. If you have an Android Smartphone, is risky to modified the OS or make changes, it can be bricked and no way to make a phone call !
The Tablet can be use as the experiment device and see how the internal of the OS works.
One of the most important is the Ramdisk, which required a Linux OS. The user have total control by using this ISO to make any permanent modification and learn. It is not only an OS with Novacom Driver, read the guide again for everything that it can do.
smithylovestouchpad said:
I was always under the impression that all this is open source.
I know Andriod is open source and most of the developers like Flintman et all post their source on github which is open to the public. But as per JC Sullins TPTB this is posted on some of his code.
# This script is Copyright (c) 2014 James Sullins, All rights reserved.
# James (JC) Sullins, aka jcsullins
# No modifications or distribution without permission
That as long as credit was given, one could modify and adapt any thing related to Android, Linux and the like. Why would Sullins care if HPTP updated and improved TPTB? If he has the knowledge and skills, all five or ten of us who still use a TouchPad would benefit.
LOL, 5 or 10 users, that is funny and you maybe right that their is 5 or 10 "regulars" who post on these threads, but I have posted the number of downloads of the alternate method
and its in the thousands. And even the most recent zip I posted in July already has over 300 downloads.
When you run TPTB, no where do you see anything about it being copyrighted or that modifying or improving it is prohibited. Where people get in trouble, they take a program or app, rename it, put their name on it and put it out as their own.
So what is going on concerning ttinstall in another thread? Link?
look at the last couple of pages of this link you will see the ttinstall mentioned
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/android-9-pie-dirty-unicorns-v13-0-t3911621
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See my comments in blue above.
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HP_TOUCHPAD said:
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I did not contacted JC Sullins as the account on XDA has not been active.
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DoubleStuff says,
Ok well somebody did, because I am quoting your comment from this post below...
HP_TOUCHPAD says,
It could be the only file to load, but I am not going to change it, a request was sent to jcsulling for permission, but no replied. Anywhere jcsullins is " Many Thanks"
see this post for context:
Post #179
DoubleStuff says,
Ok well somebody did, because I am quoting your comment from this post below...
HP_TOUCHPAD says,
It could be the only file to load, but I am not going to change it, a request was sent to jcsulling for permission, but no replied. Anywhere jcsullins is " Many Thanks"
see this post for context:
Post #179[/QUOTE]
Again read this specific post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78649680&postcount=3
Probably a request was never sent, it was a discussion on how to removed the restriction of installing only specifics ROMs. Keep in mind I am not a developer and not connected to that side of the spectrum, I looked for an alternative and found out that I could use TWRP to re-partition and use TWRP to flash any ROM and that is where the Wipe_All came to be.
I saw your post elsewhere about the java installer for Novacom not working any more. There is a Windows installer version you can download here:
https://www.sheldonsblog.com/cant-download-novacom-drivers-for-windows-to-connect-hp-touchpad/
Just right click on NovacomInstaller_x64.msi and click install. There is a 32 bit version too. Easy peazy. No java installer needed.
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HP_TOUCHPAD said:
DoubleStuff says,
Ok well somebody did, because I am quoting your comment from this post below...
HP_TOUCHPAD says,
It could be the only file to load, but I am not going to change it, a request was sent to jcsulling for permission, but no replied. Anywhere jcsullins is " Many Thanks"
see this post for context:
Post #179
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Again read this specific post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78649680&postcount=3
Probably a request was never sent, it was a discussion on how to removed the restriction of installing only specifics ROMs. Keep in mind I am not a developer and not connected to that side of the spectrum, I looked for an alternative and found out that I could use TWRP to re-partition and use TWRP to flash any ROM and that is where the Wipe_All came to be. [/QUOTE]
You know there is an easy work-around. Just use one of the compatible recoveries and gapps files available and immediately after installing, flash the updated version of TWRP. Worked like a charm for me when I reverted my TP back to Sullin's CM11 sans swap. Fresh start, complete data reset and all that.
Smithy
P.S. I agree with DS, sure looks like some kind of contact with Sullins was attempted.
smithylovestouchpad said:
I saw your post elsewhere about the java installer for Novacom not working any more. There is a Windows installer version you can download here:
Just right click on NovacomInstaller_x64.msi and click install. There is a 32 bit version too. Easy peazy. No java installer needed.
Smithy
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Thanks Smithy I clicked the link and dowloaded the NovacomInstallers and put them on a
thumb drive along with HPTP's .iso file, because you never know how long these "rogue" links
will be up, and when I am going to need it.
As per contacting JCSullins controversy, I can't find the link, but I believe Flintman tried to contact him about the TPTB code back in the Evervolv 5 days, and maybe even some others have tried, and of course Sullins XDA has been inactive for quite a while, but I am sure ( he is no dummy ) he has probably created a new account and comes on here and poses as a newbie once in a while.
I am hearing rumors now that Android Q, will not be named after a tasty treat, because these treats names, Petit Four, Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, IceCream Sandwich, JellyBean, KitKat, Lollipop, Marshmallow, Nougat, Oreo and Pie even though popular treats in the USA, does not mean these treats have worldwide appeal, nor were they fully understood in other languages. So I am hearing Android Q will just be named Android 10, so I guess
we have reached an "end of an era".
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LOL, 5 or 10 users, that is funny and you maybe right that their is 5 or 10 "regulars" who post on these threads, but I have posted the number of downloads of the alternate method and its in the thousands. And even the most recent zip I posted in July already has over 300 downloads.
Good to know there are a few lurkers out there who choose to take but not participate. It's nice to get feedback on your work as well as an occasional thanks.
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# This script is Copyright (c) 2014 James Sullins, All rights reserved.
# James (JC) Sullins, aka jcsullins
# No modifications or distribution without permission
Would have been nice if he has posted that in the OP of his thread instead of burying it in his code. I'm not a lawyer, but just because you put that claim of being copyrighted out there does not mean it is. I doubt if he actually ever filed the paperwork to copyright TPTB. Although as arrogant as he always came across, he just might have done so. God forbid that someone else could help improve on HIS work.
Smithy
DoubleStuff said:
See my comments in blue above.
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DoubleStuff says,
Ok well somebody did, because I am quoting your comment from this post below...
HP_TOUCHPAD says,
It could be the only file to load, but I am not going to change it, a request was sent to jcsulling for permission, but no replied. Anywhere jcsullins is " Many Thanks"
see this post for context:
Post #179
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Just curious, so you create this Linux Live CD or run this operating system in a virtual machine and regardless of the PC you run it on, it is going to work? So Linux contains all the drivers needed to work on all the hardware out there, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Sony, Asus, Acer, Toshiba, desktop, laptop, regardless?
Smithy
smithylovestouchpad said:
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Would have been nice if he has posted that in the OP of his thread instead of burying it in his code. I'm not a lawyer, but just because you put that claim of being copyrighted out there does not mean it is. I doubt if he actually ever filed the paperwork to copyright TPTB. Although as arrogant as he always came across, he just might have done so. God forbid that someone else could help improve on HIS work.
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I agree with you on the copyright Smithy, because recently a music artist named Katy Perry was sued by Flame, because Flame said Katy Perry copied from his song, when she created the song "Dark Horse", if only Katy would have given Flame some kudos/credit for the song, I think Flame would have been OK with it. Plus HPTP wants people to "save a click" and not even press the thanks button, I am sure he does not want any money for his work. So if he gets sued, what is 50% of $0.00, you guessed it a big zero. LOL. I have learned so much over the past 2 years because of everybodies work in trying to improve the touchpad install method, that its worth it for me. But I wish JCSullins could come back for a day or two and tell us his final summary of the past 4 years.
And maybe JC could mend the fences with some people he was at odds with, it would be like the big reunion of Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin, after they had that bitter split for for 20 years, finally reunited during the 1976 Jerry Lewis Telethon.
smithylovestouchpad said:
Just curious, so you create this Linux Live CD or run this operating system in a virtual machine and regardless of the PC you run it on, it is going to work? So Linux contains all the drivers needed to work on all the hardware out there, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Sony, Asus, Acer, Toshiba, desktop, laptop, regardless?
Smithy
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@smithylovestouchpad
All your comments, suggestion and critics are well welcome. The most valuable asset of the thread are the comments, questions, answers and debate, that's what we learned from. Nobody has to agree or use any specific method, but the most important is to post valuable and helpful information for any user to have the best experience using the HP TP.
On the Linux Operating System the drivers are incorporated into the Kernel, there are many versions of Linux with different Kernels. Most Linux OS can boot on any Computer and provide support for a lot of hardware and devices, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Sony, Asus, Acer, Toshiba and Apple. All those Personal Computer brands use the same Processor, Intel or AMD with same technology standards. Linux is very powerful it does not need to be install to run on a computer, is call a Live CD or (USB Flash drive).
An example:
The computer hard drive is failing and not booting into the OS, or the boot sector is damage. A Linux (CD) (USB) can be connected to the computer and it loads the Linux OS into memory ( RAMDISK ). Data can be copy from the failing hard drive or the boot sector can be restore, it can resolve many issues.
The Linux version used for the HP Touchpad Novacom Repair is based on Puppy Linux compatible with Ubuntu Bionic. If you read the info the OS is less than 300 MB with more software support that of a full modern OS. It will boot on any Computer, from 20 years ago to the most current. The computer does not need a hard drive and no more than 1GB of RAM. The smallest Linux Distro is Tiny Core :
https://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/downloads.html
Is a 16 MB Operating System that support most computers with Graphics, Sound, Networking, Mouse, Keyboard, CD, Hard drive.
The most current FireFox browser can be install to a total OS of about 200 MB and is all loaded into Memory and due to that even a computer that is about 15 years old will browse the web faster that any new one !
Booting from a Virtual Machine will work 100 % on anything even on an ARM processor. It can even be run on any modern Android Smartphone, meaning your phone can connect to the Tablet to repair it.
Virtualization adds a layer of software codes that mimic the hardware that the OS needs to run from.
Puppy Linux is the distro that I found small enough that supports the Novavcom Driver and allows for the Ramdisk to be modified. At only 355 MB total it can be copy onto a 1GB flash drive and still have 700 MB for extra files. It can be boot on any old computer, with no hard drive, monitor, keyboard or mouse. The only thing extra is a network card and USB port. Once it boots VNC Server is active and using VNC Viewer it can be control remotely. There are many ways on using it but no matter how, it will always work as intended.
DoubleStuff said:
Plus HPTP wants people to "save a click" and not even press the thanks button, I am sure he does not want any money for his work. So if he gets sued, what is 50% of $0.00, you guessed it a big zero. LOL.
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Is posted on my Guide, I am a user not a developer and all the modifications I am doing is what any user can do, but I am trying to make it easier for others to apply on to the Tablet. I am not creating any proprietary code or special software. But there are other "humans been" that the only thing they care is personal gain and will use others people ideas and work, modified it and call it their own. It happens all over, look into this web site XDA and you will find it. There is a reason for a patent registration that is stronger than just a copyright and even patents takes years to get approved and still others use it.
Jc Sullins spent a lot of time creating the ToolBox and just posted it for everyone to use. Anyone can easily modified it, repack it and distributed with another name and charge, that is the reality. But the ToolBox is not a proprietary software or code, is a version of Angstrom v2015.01, Built from branch: master, Revision: 038d832 (open source )
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
Running scripts to perform the task with busybox and LVM. There is no custom codes, but the script and that is just a way of writing a command to be executed.
Attached are the list of scripts from the Toolbox, when a user enter an option the script it call and executed by busybox or LVM.
It is very well done and perfectly executed. If the WiFi drivers can be ported to Anstrom Arm OS, a system can be built that will do it all, with web browser built in to automatically download the latest Recovery, Android Version, Resize all Partitions and automatically fix any issues. But the drivers for the HP TP are proprietary and not available or easily portable to other OS.
Read very careful this links, it could have provided the information to create the HP Touchpad Debrick, the Pre phone runs on WebOS, same as the Tablet.
One situation which cannot be recovered so easily is the extremely unlikely event of corruption of the installed bootloader (bootie) stored on the Pre's flash disk.
And this is the Most important, that clearly state that a WebOS device can not be brick even if the bootie is damage.
If bootie on the flash disk has been damaged or corrupted in such a way that booting into recovery mode is not possible, the Pre is still not "bricked" as the OMAP3430 processor in the Pre provides for a mechanism to boot code from its USB interface. At this time this operation has not been performed on a Pixi, and will not be the same as it has a different core.
https://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1564938
smithylovestouchpad said:
I saw your post elsewhere about the java installer for Novacom not working any more. There is a Windows installer version you can download here:
https://www.sheldonsblog.com/cant-download-novacom-drivers-for-windows-to-connect-hp-touchpad/
Just right click on NovacomInstaller_x64.msi and click install. There is a 32 bit version too. Easy peazy. No java installer needed.
Smithy
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Thank you for sharing the information, it is good to know that you recently found the Novacom drivers for Windows. I do have all the drivers for all the OS.
On this post August 5 when your Windows Novacom Driver malfunctioned, you asked for the drivers:
By any chance do you have the novacomd installation files. I could try reinstalling that. I have even tried a different USB cable.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016787&postcount=418
The java installer was the Universal to get it working on any OS, but it need it java to be install and that was another challenge plus about 200 MB extra just to use a driver.
The Windows driver installed on my Windows x64 with no issues, attached are the screenshots.
It is very easy to install, just a click. But having the Novacom Installed on Windows or any other OS does not mean that the Tablet will get fix. Is only a driver that was created in 2009 to communicate with Palm phones that came with software that used the driver.
Your issued is the perfect example and this is how it all started:
I am looking at triangle with an exclamation point in it and www.palm/ROM below that. I'm not bricked so to speak, but I no longer have a boot loader, so the tablet is useless. I now have a nice paperweight.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80014852&postcount=391
With the HP Touchpad Novacom Repair Android, is not only the driver but the user knows what to do when they see a symbol on the tablet screen and the only thing to do is connected and click. It will always work as long as the PC has a USB port and the Tablet connection works.
If the user is using any other OS, Windows as an example, it must know how to open a command prompt in the Palm, Inc directory.
That is not an easy task for a regular user, you could not do it as in your post:
OK, using Windows File Explorer, I navigate to the Palm, Inc folder and right click the mouse. The options menu that opens does not give me a selection to open a command window
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016787&postcount=418
As you can recall, it was a challenge for a user like you that claims using Novacom drivers is as easy as a click and all done, well think what it can be to others using different operating system.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
Thank you for sharing the information, it is good to know that you recently found the Novacom drivers for Windows. I do have all the drivers for all the OS.
On this post August 5 when your Windows Novacom Driver malfunctioned, you asked for the drivers:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016787&postcount=418
The java installer was the Universal to get it working on any OS, but it need it java to be install and that was another challenge plus about 200 MB extra just to use a driver.
The Windows driver installed on my Windows x64 with no issues, attached are the screenshots.
It is very easy to install, just a click. But having the Novacom Installed on Windows or any other OS does not mean that the Tablet will get fix. Is only a driver that was created in 2009 to communicate with Palm phones that came with software that used the driver.
Your issued is the perfect example and this is how it all started:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80014852&postcount=391
With the HP Touchpad Novacom Repair Android, is not only the driver but the user knows what to do when they see a symbol on the tablet screen and the only thing to do is connected and click. It will always work as long as the PC has a USB port and the Tablet connection works.
If the user is using any other OS, Windows as an example, it must know how to open a command prompt in the Palm, Inc directory.
That is not an easy task for a regular user, you could not do it as in your post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016787&postcount=418
As you can recall, it was a challenge for a user like you that claims using Novacom drivers is as easy as a click and all done, well think what it can be to others using different operating system.
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So what's your point. Only thing I see is you saying I'm stupid and you are so smart. That your way is the best and only way because you created it. Do you get a thrill putting people down? I have posted a link to an installer that does not require java, you put me down for that. I pay you complements, you don't even have the courtesy to say thank you. The only issue I had was a corrupted driver that caused the problem. You try to make it out that I don't know what the hell I am doing. I was the one who figured out it was a corrupt driver and I shared that. And why is it that someone asks for a link to a possibly needed file and no help from you. You say you have the Novacom driver for all OS's. How come you could not have provided a link? And BTW, after the fact I realize your suggestions were misleading. To run TWRP, TPTB or your Wipe routine on the TouchPad, all one has to do is run the associated script. No command window needed. I acknowledged early on that hardware was my area of expertise, not software, writing scripts or code. So why are you holding that against me? Oh wait, that makes you the big man cause you know it all and I admitted I did not understand what you were saying. You must live in a really big building to accommodate your huge ego. But that's OK, my TouchPads run just fine without your Wipes, Swaps, Optimizations or Reducers.
And since I am about to say "adios" to this little circus, you should really find someone to edit your threads, posts and guides. I asked you before if English was your first language and you said it wasn't, and it's very obvious it is not. At times it is really difficult to understand what you are trying to say because of it. You never say anything in your videos. Now we know why, no one could understand you.
Well, I've had my fun at your expense. So I only have one thing left to say, BYTE ME!