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Wondering if there is a Kernel to OC with SetCPU for the latest Gingerbread update? I updated OTA and rooted.
gnueliafnak said:
Wondering if there is a Kernel to OC with SetCPU for the latest Gingerbread update? I updated OTA and rooted.
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You can't flash kernels without an unlocked bootloader. If you have unlocked bootloader and CWM, you can flash either edgan's or faux's both of them work as I have tested them personally on my phone.
I plan to unlock it using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
Can you direct me to the kernel thread? and which would you recommend using? thanks!
gnueliafnak said:
I plan to unlock it using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
Can you direct me to the kernel thread? and which would you recommend using? thanks!
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Edgan's - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173225
Faux's - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
Make sure you flash the right version for your phone (d00 or 1100).
What im curious is, is there a noticable differance in a 1.1 OC?
xploited said:
Edgan's - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173225
Faux's - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
Make sure you flash the right version for your phone (d00 or 1100).
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Which version do most people prefer? And it seems a bit complicated on the Kernel part. I know how to root, and unlock the BL, but when it comes to kernel's I'm not so familiar with it. I want to install it though to OC the phone.
Mrniceguy0921 said:
What im curious is, is there a noticable differance in a 1.1 OC?
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I tried both kernel's and haven't noticed any improvements in performance, but to be fair I haven't tested them extensively + they can be overclocked to more than 1.1 ghz
gnueliafnak said:
Which version do most people prefer? And it seems a bit complicated on the Kernel part. I know how to root, and unlock the BL, but when it comes to kernel's I'm not so familiar with it. I want to install it though to OC the phone.
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Installing isn't hard, you just flash them via CWM. Faux's thread has more replised so perhaps his kernel is more popular. You can try both and decide for yourself. But I think you need to wipe after each installation to avoid problems.
xploited said:
Installing isn't hard, you just flash them via CWM. Faux's thread has more replised so perhaps his kernel is more popular. You can try both and decide for yourself. But I think you need to wipe after each installation to avoid problems.
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I thought I had installed CWM when I rooted again from that previous thread, but it didn't. Is there a specific thread for the CWM download? Thanks again!
Edit: Apparently I did have CWM installed? I booted into Android Recovery and it had the same options I used to root from the other thread? said Atrix 4g [version] goapk.com
im guessing thats CWM?
Yes, it is.
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In my opinion, the greater benefit of having one of these kernels loaded is the ability to extend battery life by using setcpu to do things like underclock when the screen is off, and such. As for speed, I get quadrant scores in the 3500s, ymmv.
gnueliafnak said:
I thought I had installed CWM when I rooted again from that previous thread, but it didn't. Is there a specific thread for the CWM download? Thanks again!
Edit: Apparently I did have CWM installed? I booted into Android Recovery and it had the same options I used to root from the other thread? said Atrix 4g [version] goapk.com
im guessing thats CWM?
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Yep, thats CWM. Download the correct kernel (d00 or 1100), put it onto your SD card, reboot into CWM, select "install a file from zip" or something like that, select your SD card, select zip, confirm installation.
After that reboot. If you have issues -> wipe data and reboot again.
r.brock497 said:
Yes, it is.
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In my opinion, the greater benefit of having one of these kernels loaded is the ability to extend battery life by using setcpu to do things like underclock when the screen is off, and such. As for speed, I get quadrant scores in the 3500s, ymmv.
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Quadrant scores are awesome for boosting self esteem, but from what I use,- it didn't translate into real life performance increase
Much appreciated guys!
One more question hopefully. Where can I find a thread if there is any with a listing of SetCPU profiles for OCing with a different Kernel?
gnueliafnak said:
Much appreciated guys!
One more question hopefully. Where can I find a thread if there is any with a listing of SetCPU profiles for OCing with a different Kernel?
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Faux has a bunch of different versions of his kernel with built in profiles. Besides that I haven't seen a list of standalone profiles. You can always make your own one I guess as long as you don't OC to 2.0 ghz
xploited said:
Faux has a bunch of different versions of his kernel with built in profiles. Besides that I haven't seen a list of standalone profiles. You can always make your own one I guess as long as you don't OC to 2.0 ghz
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I'm using his 1.1Ghz Kernel right now and the new Quadrant scores strokes my epeen, lol.
I didn't see any higher Kernel speed for Faux? I think his 1.2Ghz was "coming soon".
gnueliafnak said:
I'm using his 1.1Ghz Kernel right now and the new Quadrant scores strokes my epeen, lol.
I didn't see any higher Kernel speed for Faux? I think his 1.2Ghz was "coming soon".
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I thought the 1.2ghz was released already, but oh well... You can always set your own profiles, just remember to downclock based on CPU temperature.
If CPU heats up > 50 C - downclock back to 1ghz for example.
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I thought the 1.2ghz was released already, but oh well... You can always set your own profiles, just remember to downclock based on CPU temperature.
If CPU heats up > 50 C - downclock back to 1ghz for example.
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Yea, i just made 1 profile to downclock it back down to 1Ghz with Min 216Mhz at 50 C for temp. Priority 99.
Do you have any good profiles for battery management with this kernel? I couldn't find any around and the ones that are around are for the stock kernel.
gnueliafnak said:
Yea, i just made 1 profile to downclock it back down to 1Ghz with Min 216Mhz at 50 C for temp. Priority 99.
Do you have any good profiles for battery management with this kernel? I couldn't find any around and the ones that are around are for the stock kernel.
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I don't use OC at the moment, but for batter management it's basically -
screen off = lowest CPU clock
battery < 30% = 1000 or 800 or whatever you feel necessary.
xploited said:
I don't use OC at the moment, but for batter management it's basically -
screen off = lowest CPU clock
battery < 30% = 1000 or 800 or whatever you feel necessary.
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I just lurked around the old SetCPU threads and got some ideas. Lowest I'll run is 750 when not screen off or charging, apparently thats the lowest it can run without being laggy.
Right now the jump between 1ghz to 1.1ghz shows no real world benefit. I have a couple of questions:
1. Does overclocking to 1.1ghz effect the battery enought to see a difference?
2. Does undervolting save battery enough to see a difference?
3. If i have a custom kernal but still running at 1ghz, will the battery be the same/worse/better then runnning 1ghz on stock kernel
4. Does undervolting have any negative effects on performance
Thanks in Advance!! XDA RULES!!
The best type of experience, is 1st hand.
Why not try it out and make this thread a log of your results?
1username4thisforum said:
The best type of experience, is 1st hand.
Why not try it out and make this thread a log of your results?
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Not trying to be rude, but does not answer my question. Why go through the procedure when someone who has already done it or has experience with it is kind enough to post answers.
primeboss said:
Right now the jump between 1ghz to 1.1ghz shows no real world benefit. I have a couple of questions:
1. Does overclocking to 1.1ghz effect the battery enought to see a difference?
2. Does undervolting save battery enough to see a difference?
3. If i have a custom kernal but still running at 1ghz, will the battery be the same/worse/better then runnning 1ghz on stock kernel
4. Does undervolting have any negative effects on performance
Thanks in Advance!! XDA RULES!!
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1 Yes it does, but the phone only uses that frequency when pushed to limits, so not much.
2 Yes, i believe it does.
3 I found faux kernel to drink my battery like water even oj stock clock. Edgan's didnt have that problem.
4 it may cause random reboots if ur UV lvls are beyond the phone's capabilities.
Ps1: hes got a point, all impressions are too personal, they dont translate to universal experience.
Ps2: the greatest use of OC on the atrix right now is the webtop, that really pushes all possible processing power.
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Viamonte said:
1 Yes it does, but the phone only uses that frequency when pushed to limits, so not much.
2 Yes, i believe it does.
3 I found faux kernel to drink my battery like water even oj stock clock. Edgan's didnt have that problem.
4 it may cause random reboots if ur UV lvls are beyond the phone's capabilities.
Ps1: hes got a point, all impressions are too personal, they dont translate to universal experience.
Ps2: the greatest use of OC on the atrix right now is the webtop, that really pushes all possible processing power.
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Thank You!
Anyone have a ultimate setting for saving battery life in SETCPU for the Motorola Photon?
Bump.. Just bought it myself will read more into it... But if someone has a quick down and dirty on settings for the photon would be appreciated... I did do some initial settings but felt the screen was getting too hot so I aborted the settings I applied.
I stopped using setcpu back when i had an HTC hero (2009). You really don't need it imo lol. Wanna save battery, use an undervolt kernel or turn off mobile data when you're not using it. You could also turn off auto background data sync.
Will look into it, just seemed that the percentage based rules looked attractive inthe program.. Always nice to be able to apply less than rules, greater than etc..
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Don't think an app can control our cpu. I've tried setting frequencies only to have them ignored, pretty sure some programs will have the under volt ignored.
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Set cpu undervolting my photon def works.. I did notice (not recently though) that under a lot of stress while undervolted itll kick up to a higher voltage though I havnt seen it do that for a long time now..
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So there is or is not good reason to use setcpu on the photon?
tcf84 said:
So there is or is not good reason to use setcpu on the photon?
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Its all based on the personal preference man. If you feel the need to use it go ahead. Myself, I don't think its necessary. I mean it's good for setting profiles in different situations (screen on/off,charging etc). Most of the time the kernels baked in settings are good enough but some people combine a custom kernel with setcpu for maximum control over CPU. Setcpu is absolutely pointless unless you're running a custom kernel. Plus if you use cyanogen roms it will allow you to set CPU values within the rom. Again, these are just my thoughts on it man.
Well I'm in the process of trying to get CM9 working, so I guess I wouldn't need it.
Thanks for the clarification.
Can I ask, how did you UV your cpu ? is it somewhere within the setcpu, or it comes from the kernel ? I really don't understand about ocing/uving an android phone, thx.
El-Nath said:
Can I ask, how did you UV your cpu ? is it somewhere within the setcpu, or it comes from the kernel ? I really don't understand about ocing/uving an android phone, thx.
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Custom kernels will allow you to over clock or undervolt. Set CPU just allows you to set clock speed upon boot along with custom profiles. If you install a kernel that allows undervolting it should have the custom values baked in. Again, use set CPU if you please. Joker has a set of custom kernels both uv/oc. I'm using his 1.3 oc kernel for CM7 at the moment but I'm only clocked at 1.2 just testing out. So far its amazing.
tcf84 said:
Well I'm in the process of trying to get CM9 working, so I guess I wouldn't need it.
Thanks for the clarification.
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How did this work out for you? Where's the install? Desperate to give it a try.
bigstar3 said:
How did this work out for you? Where's the install? Desperate to give it a try.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413349
Doesn't voltage control also work? When I was using my Epic4g, i preferred voltage control over setcpu since it does both: OC and UV.
However, I'd agree with kennypow3rs that i dont think any of it is necesary with the Photon. It's quite fast already and the battery life is amazing. I hacked my Epic 4g like crazy, through 10 ROMs, OC/UV, Eclair through GB, and I have to say, it was a waste of my time. I am now extremely happy to have the Photon, stock and rooted.
lancelot916 said:
Doesn't voltage control also work? When I was using my Epic4g, i preferred voltage control over setcpu since it does both: OC and UV.
However, I'd agree with kennypow3rs that i dont think any of it is necesary with the Photon. It's quite fast already and the battery life is amazing. I hacked my Epic 4g like crazy, through 10 ROMs, OC/UV, Eclair through GB, and I have to say, it was a waste of my time. I am now extremely happy to have the Photon, stock and rooted.
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I've been where you've been, done what you've done, and am now at where you're at and I couldn't be happier myself.
kennypow3rs said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413349
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thanks man!
I prefer to use this instead of the ones built in to cm7/9, personal preference i guess.
But the only real reason i use it is for the profiles feature. Which i set my phone to screen off to max at 216mhz(wish i could auto disable while using Pandora), then to any time below 100% battery to max 750mhz (with jokers kernel that disables the 2nd core) and then finely to run full speed when its plugged in.
kennypow3rs said:
Custom kernels will allow you to over clock or undervolt. Set CPU just allows you to set clock speed upon boot along with custom profiles. If you install a kernel that allows undervolting it should have the custom values baked in. Again, use set CPU if you please. Joker has a set of custom kernels both uv/oc. I'm using his 1.3 oc kernel for CM7 at the moment but I'm only clocked at 1.2 just testing out. So far its amazing.
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where can I find those custom value ? and how I set them ?
and while on it, I want to ask since I'm using setCPU to undervolt, what is the normal voltage of 1.2 cpu clock ? I'm noob at this please bear with me, thx
Funny, I have been using SetCPU until Kennypow3rs said something. Although it worked, I have ROM Toolbox Pro. I figured out yesterday, It does all that performance crap and more. Matter fact, I got 15 hours out of my battery (Granted, 7 of those hours I was sleep!)
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First of all, I got interested in overclocking because I've read that it helps boost the performance of android devices.
Now, Having no experience at all, I have some queries and questions about this feature:
1. Supposing that I have already downloaded an OC with my preferred frequency, Do I have to flash to be able to apply an OC Kernel in my device? Or do I just have to update it from CWM?
2. What does this term mean? :
"use no-Frills for OC and I/O setting"
3. If ever the OC I have applied is unstable, how would I be able to revert it to 600MHz again?
I hope you guys could help me with my doubts.
Thanks in Advance!
Dude never overclock a device...it decreases the life of the device and who the heck told u that improves the performance of the device???It doesn't improve just causes more problems!!!!!
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vipaman said:
Dude never overclock a device...it decreases the life of the device and who the heck told u that improves the performance of the device???It doesn't improve just causes more problems!!!!!
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Stop lying . It may decrease the life of your device if you overclock dangerously (too high for the processor to handle). It does increase performance.
JakeJester said:
First of all, I got interested in overclocking because I've read that it helps boost the performance of android devices.
Now, Having no experience at all, I have some queries and questions about this feature:
1. Supposing that I have already downloaded an OC with my preferred frequency, Do I have to flash to be able to apply an OC Kernel in my device? Or do I just have to update it from CWM?
2. What does this term mean? :
"use no-Frills for OC and I/O setting"
3. If ever the OC I have applied is unstable, how would I be able to revert it to 600MHz again?
I hope you guys could help me with my doubts.
Thanks in Advance!
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1. You just set your frequency in the app.
2. No frills is an app. Whoever stated that is just saying you should use that app to do it (thier preference).
3. If you use SetCPU, you can create an update.zip file which allows you to set it back to the default frequency via recovery (if your device can't boot).
vipaman said:
Dude never overclock a device...it decreases the life of the device and who the heck told u that improves the performance of the device???It doesn't improve just causes more problems!!!!!
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Are you sure? This is far contrary in the threads that I've read. Does anyone else agree with this?
Totally confusing. HELP!!
It's ur device ur wish. Any overclocking involes a lot of danger. Set it too high for the cpu to handle it might explode(personal experince). I overclocked my device and it exploded....So it's ur wish.
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Theonew said:
Stop lying . It may decrease the life of your device if you overclock dangerously (too high for the processor to handle). It does increase performance.
1. You just set your frequency in the app.
2. No frills is an app. Whoever stated that is just saying you should use that app to do it (thier preference).
3. If you use SetCPU, you can create an update.zip file which allows you to set it back to the default frequency via recovery (if your device can't boot).
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Phew! At last. Something worth reading.
Thanks for the answers! But I have another follow up question.
I found this thread :
[kernel] Cm7 OC kernel with all feature
So what does this mean? Why do I have to download it from there instead of using the app to change the frequency?
JakeJester said:
Phew! At last. Something worth reading.
Thanks for the answers! But I have another follow up question.
I found this thread :
[kernel] Cm7 OC kernel with all feature
So what does this mean? Why do I have to download it from there instead of using the app to change the frequency?
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Because not all kernels have OC/UC capabilities. You have to download and flash a kernel that allows it.
lowandbehold said:
Because not all kernels have OC/UC capabilities. You have to download and flash a kernel that allows it.
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Yeah right! I forgot about that.
Maybe my Samsung Galaxy Fit doesn't have that capability that's why they created that thread in our section.
Thanks for the reply!
JakeJester said:
Yeah right! I forgot about that.
Maybe my Samsung Galaxy Fit doesn't have that capability that's why they created that thread in our section.
Thanks for the reply!
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It is capable. That kernel will allow it.
Yes you can revert back to 600mhz, but as everyone else has said, do not overclock too far.
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vipaman said:
It's ur device ur wish. Any overclocking involes a lot of danger. Set it too high for the cpu to handle it might explode(personal experince). I overclocked my device and it exploded....So it's ur wish.
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Don't overclock beyond what anyone else has had success with. Look up other's successes.
And if you can't, doing it step-by-step, ~100mHz at a time, slowly, will make it feel hot or crash before it explodes (back down if it does get hot or unstable).
Undervolting can also help counteract some of the bad parts of overclocking, without affecting performance at all. UV can, worst case scenario, cause data loss and crashing, never hardware damage, but best case scenario improves battery and device life. Again, do it step-by-step, 5V at a time, slowly, and back up when it starts acting weird
You can check this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1247213
you need to have a kernel that allows for OCing/UCing , i'm not sure if galaxy fit allows it
you'll know if it allows it or not if you'll run an app that allows for OCing/UCing, if it doesn't allow it, the maximum frequency at which you can set is 600mhz only which is the default.
My phone's rooted for the first time several days ago and the CPU is overclocked from 1Ghz to 1.7Ghz.
I suppose it depends on overclocking application. The ROM that I have includes an O/C app and there's an option called "on demand" which means even if your CPU is overclocked, it will not utilize the max clock speed all the time.
My phone actually runs at 300Mhz on standby and around 1.2Mhz when I am using it to surf, listen to music or watch a movie. I've never seen it run max 1.7Ghz.
Bro don`t overclock a device
Rumor if u overclock a device, it decreases the life of the device
c.innovation said:
Bro don`t overclock a device
Rumor if u overclock a device, it decreases the life of the device
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It depends on your device (and kernel), plus the frequency you set it to. Also, it's based on your preference to do it or not.
For the people that maintained root through the update; are you able to use an app like setcpu or something to underclock the newly overclocked kernel?
Why would you want to underclock it?
indomfp said:
Why would you want to underclock it?
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to improve battery live, but really undervolting would be more useful.
for underclocking, the companion core works much better and is very effecient for standby/basic use senarios.
undervolt won't work until we can flash custom kernels, which need a custom recovery to flash them, which needs an unlocked bootloader.
i don't think apps like setcpu know how to deal with tegra3's 4+1 core setup right now, someone can correct me if i'm wrong
My guess is that the UV/UC battery gains are going to be quite small with the ninja core taking the majority of the strain. There should be some kernel source from nvidia which indicates what the transition is from the different states - maybe the best gain would come from locking out the G processors.
I saw some LP <->G switching info in dmesg with a pre-ICS version, but it seems not to be there any more...
Well the reason I asked was because I'm one of the people who gets nothing but boot loops after the ics update. After trying everything, I was wondering if this could be done, which would narrow the issue down to a kernel problem.
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