discussion of s-off - HTC Rezound

please keep all posts out of the developers thread. we are free to discuss at liberty here.
at this time,looks like the quota for rezound testers has been filled
(dev thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1578334 do not post)

scotty1223 said:
please keep all posts out of the developers thread. we are free to discuss at liberty here.
at this time,looks like the quota for rezound testers has been filled
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In before mighty_markus!

tekhna said:
In before mighty_markus!
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bwahaha

tekhna said:
In before mighty_markus!
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they pull this off im donating even though im broke!

superchilpil said:
Didn't someone say the rl changes to rh when you get s-off?
S-on rl
S-off rh
I'm pretty skeptical, the second shot fails to show you the Verizon on top of the phone. The s-off ones aren't branded right?
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my developer s-off rezound is rl. id say that it has nothing to do with s-on/off

mighty_markus12 said:
they pull this off im donating even though im broke!
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You still need to HTC unlock though, it sounds like.

tekhna said:
You still need to HTC unlock though, it sounds like.
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i dunno but i do know i spoke to 3 big devs at rootwiki and they are willing to come over to the rezound if we get s-off. also probably because they just dropped the price of a rezound to a mere $50.
either way im stoked!

Patience is all we needed . We eventually got unlocked, then ICS leaks, now sense 4.0 with a rumored ics ots friday now maybe s off . Great . Aosp and cm9 hopefully a little after all that too.
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mighty_markus12 said:
i dunno but i do know i spoke to 3 big devs at rootwiki and they are willing to come over to the rezound if we get s-off. also probably because they just dropped the price of a rezound to a mere $50.
either way im stoked!
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The rezound is an amazing phone, makes sense to me. I'm hoping for an AOKP too.

Reaper0294 said:
The rezound is an amazing phone, makes sense to me. I'm hoping for an AOKP too.
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i know the maker of the gummy rom may be interested.

Reaper0294 said:
The rezound is an amazing phone, makes sense to me. I'm hoping for an AOKP too.
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Why? I mean, for devs s-off doesn't really do anything, unless there's a way to do it without the HTC Unlock, which might mitigate their concerns about the warranty. It doesn't sound like this s-off method mitigates the warranty issue, for those that have it.

tekhna said:
Why? I mean, for devs s-off doesn't really do anything, unless there's a way to do it without the HTC Unlock, which might mitigate their concerns about the warranty. It doesn't sound like this s-off method mitigates the warranty issue, for those that have it.
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that's why alot of them migrated to the gneuxs because the bootloader can be easily unlocked then relocked to a factory state. it's the same reason alot of moto devices don't get alot of dev supoort. as i said i "heard" if we had s-off alot of other devs might be coming over. nothing is set in stone.
i do wish these guys luck though in achieving s-off for us.

tekhna said:
You still need to HTC unlock though, it sounds like.
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prolly just to get root access. after you are radio s-off,it wont matter if youre unlocked or not

tekhna said:
Why? I mean, for devs s-off doesn't really do anything,
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i think its more of an "ease of dealing with things" aspect. while its true,htcdev unlock lets you flash roms and kernels,its a PITA with android info documents,and either launching recovery from fastboot,or jumping thru hoops to get hboot to flash your kernel.
plus,on a personal level an s-off device is muc more fun to have.
i effin knew as soon as i traded my gnex for an s-off rezound that some sort of exploit would be found

mighty_markus12 said:
that's why alot of them migrated to the gneuxs because the bootloader can be easily unlocked then relocked to a factory state. it's the same reason alot of moto devices don't get alot of dev supoort. as i said i "heard" if we had s-off alot of other devs might be coming over. nothing is set in stone.
i do wish these guys luck though in achieving s-off for us.
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scotty1223 said:
prolly just to get root access. after you are radio s-off,it wont matter if youre unlocked or not
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Right, but if you're unlocked then even s-off won't bring you back to factory state, unless they figure out a way to use the s-off to get you back to "s-on locked." Otherwise your phone will still show relocked, even if you return from s-off to s-on. And even then, HTC still knows you ran the HTC Unlock tool because you have to get the keys from them.
Edit--basically, s-off is cool, but s-off that requires HTC Unlock seems of dubious utility. It's totally cool, and I welcome the development, but I'm at a loss to figure out what S-off gives me other than flashing radios, which doesn't seem necessary.

tekhna said:
Right, but if you're unlocked then even s-off won't bring you back to factory state, unless they figure out a way to use the s-off to get you back to "s-on locked." Otherwise your phone will still show relocked, even if you return from s-off to s-on. And even then, HTC still knows you ran the HTC Unlock tool because you have to get the keys from them.
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id just like to be able to flash radios separate and change the fugly splash screen.
for some reason unknown to me s-on just drives certain devs away.

tekhna said:
Right, but if you're unlocked then even s-off won't bring you back to factory state, unless they figure out a way to use the s-off to get you back to "s-on locked." Otherwise your phone will still show relocked, even if you return from s-off to s-on. And even then, HTC still knows you ran the HTC Unlock tool because you have to get the keys from them.
Edit--basically, s-off is cool, but s-off that requires HTC Unlock seems of dubious utility. It's totally cool, and I welcome the development, but I'm at a loss to figure out what S-off gives me other than flashing radios, which doesn't seem necessary.
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I think one of the key things about the HTC unlock tool is that you may have requested it, but they have no way of proving that you used it on your phone without having it physically in front of them. I think people worry too much about that tool.

*Madmoose* said:
I think one of the key things about the HTC unlock tool is that you may have requested it, but they have no way of proving that you used it on your phone without having it physically in front of them. I think people worry too much about that tool.
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Yeah, I think so too. I don't really give a crap that I may have voided my warranty, it's a non-issue for me.

lets just be happy we may be getting both this and aosp soon. as i said, the more options the better.

tekhna said:
Right, but if you're unlocked then even s-off won't bring you back to factory state, unless they figure out a way to use the s-off to get you back to "s-on locked." Otherwise your phone will still show relocked, even if you return from s-off to s-on. And even then, HTC still knows you ran the HTC Unlock tool because you have to get the keys from them.
Edit--basically, s-off is cool, but s-off that requires HTC Unlock seems of dubious utility. It's totally cool, and I welcome the development, but I'm at a loss to figure out what S-off gives me other than flashing radios, which doesn't seem necessary.
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it gives you the option to change radios,spash screend,run a patched hboot(for eng commands) and run older RUUs.
if youre willing to htcdev unlock,then the warrany isnt an issue. with s-off you can get back to locked instead of relocked (ive done it on other devices)
you could always claim you never unlocked,and your rezound came with s-off
not to mention s-off means write to boot from recovery,so no more android info files,flastboot flashing,etc

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[Guide] Flashing the ENG bootloader after s-off

Some people might want to get rid of the modified bootloader after running the revolutionary beta to get s-off. It is pretty easy.
Also if you run a RUU you will need to run this to get proper s-off.
1. Get s-off
1a. I recommend not useing clockwork mod and instead installing TeamWin Recovery Project​2 .Download the eng bootloader and put it in the root of your sd-card
Link-> PG86IMG_eng-hboot.zip
Rename it to be PG86IMG.zip​3. Disable quickboot in system power settings
Shutdown the phone, hold down the volume down button and hit the power/hold button​4. Once in the bootloader hitting volume up will ask if you want to update, hit volume up again to accept and then reboot.​5. Remove or rename the PG86IMG.zip in order to get into the bootloader again, as it will always try to apply the update.​
ionstorm66 said:
Some people might want to get rid of the modified bootloader after running the revolutionary beta to get s-off. It is pretty easy.
1. Get s-off
1a. I recommend not useing clockwork mod and instead installing TeamWin Recovery Project​2.Download the eng bootloader and put it in the root of your sd-card
Link-> PG86IMG_eng-hboot.zip
Rename it to be PG86IMG.zip​
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Whats the difference? Mine says eMMC H.Boot
The eng bootloader has s-off stock, and has more fastboot options. It also removes anything that revolutionary did in the bootloader to get s-off.
knowledge561 said:
Whats the difference? Mine says eMMC H.Boot
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Thanks. I would have never known.
ionstorm66 said:
1. Get s-off
1a. I recommend not useing clockwork mod and instead installing TeamWin Recovery Project​
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When people make recommendations like this, I have to question why? Does CWM brick phones if you use this method? Is there a performance issue when trying this?
Not to be an ass or anything but you have 2 total post in 2 months. Please elaborate this recommendation before you have hundreds of thousands of people following your recommendation. Personal experiences as well as any confirmed bugs that others have experienced would be good.
I think that is more for Devs
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unknown_owner said:
When people make recommendations like this, I have to question why? Does CWM brick phones if you use this method? Is there a performance issue when trying this?
Not to be an ass or anything but you have 2 total post in 2 months. Please elaborate this recommendation before you have hundreds of thousands of people following your recommendation. Personal experiences as well as any confirmed bugs that others have experienced would be good.
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If you have some basic knowledge and have used revolutionary you would know why he suggested it, so maybe you should read more and he can elaborate less? BTW his instructions are perfect.
TimidRat said:
If you have some basic knowledge and have used revolutionary you would know why he suggested it, so maybe you should read more and he can elaborate less? BTW his instructions are perfect.
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Agreed
Locked & Loaded
unknown_owner said:
When people make recommendations like this, I have to question why? Does CWM brick phones if you use this method? Is there a performance issue when trying this?
Not to be an ass or anything but you have 2 total post in 2 months. Please elaborate this recommendation before you have hundreds of thousands of people following your recommendation. Personal experiences as well as any confirmed bugs that others have experienced would be good.
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plus one dude sounded like a strait ****
ion thanks bro **** worked like a charm now im clean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
worked perfectly for me... thx OP
Worked awesome! Loving the look and being able to say I have the engineering bootloader, thanks OP.
hey +1 on the thanks, easy to do and kool eng boott
You know what f**k it, i'm not going to get into any internet wars for something that is not mine but never said anythuing was wrong with revolutionary, let's get that straight. I have used CWM for evolution, epic, e3d, and Asus TF. Never had anything go wrong. So if some says not to use it, I'd like to know if I need to seek an alternative for each device. No I'm not going to search/read any he said she said post on the internet to find an answer. If the answer has to do with people and not the actual programs themselves, then the recommendation is mute.
Thanks on the steps btw
And to clarify, revolutionary is the only method to get s-off right now. There are 2 recoveries available after the s-off: CWM and TWRP.
EEE Pad Transformer sent this
Also Sprint can't tell if your EVO is a dev unit or not because It's an official eng bootloader from HTC.
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kpkimmel said:
Also Sprint can't tell if your EVO is a dev unit or not because It's an official eng bootloader from HTC.
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Are you saying that Sprint can somehow poll our devices and deduce what bootloader is installed? Or do you mean a Sprint rep with hands-on access? If the latter, I'm fairly certain they would suspect something was up when they saw S-OFF and the ENG bootloader. Either one would be a sure sign that the phone was something other than stock.
unknown_owner said:
You know what f**k it, i'm not going to get into any internet wars for something that is not mine but never said anythuing was wrong with revolutionary, let's get that straight. I have used CWM for evolution, epic, e3d, and Asus TF. Never had anything go wrong. So if some says not to use it, I'd like to know if I need to seek an alternative for each device. No I'm not going to search/read any he said she said post on the internet to find an answer. If the answer has to do with people and not the actual programs themselves, then the recommendation is mute.
Thanks on the steps btw
And to clarify, revolutionary is the only method to get s-off right now. There are 2 recoveries available after the s-off: CWM and TWRP.
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Well, most of us who got our E4G on release day and rooted immediately didn't like early versions of CWM because it wouldn't wipe properly or completely sometimes (giving rise to ridiculous multi-wipe scripts). That and all the associated wonkyness that would follow could be eliminated before it began by simply using Amon Ra and avoiding CWM like the plague...
...even though I've used CWM successfully on devices that have no Amon Ra given our collective early experiences with it (and absolute lack of problems with stable versions of Amon Ra) on the E4G we never used anything but Amon Ra and never had any problems....but we did with CWM at one point.
That's likely why he said it and is why you hear that a lot still. Lots of us E4G guys jumped to E3D immediately. Even though CWM fixed that problem I hear we wouldn't know, we used Amon Ra with nary a problem.
erikivy said:
Are you saying that Sprint can somehow poll our devices and deduce what bootloader is installed? Or do you mean a Sprint rep with hands-on access? If the latter, I'm fairly certain they would suspect something was up when they saw S-OFF and the ENG bootloader. Either one would be a sure sign that the phone was something other than stock.
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A handful of them shipped S-OFF and some of those were probably eng hboots...that and it doesn't say "REVOLUTIONARY" in bright pink at the top...that's a definite giveaway.
If you're going to repost something you could at least link back to where you took everything from...
daneurysm said:
A handful of them shipped S-OFF and some of those were probably eng hboots...that and it doesn't say "REVOLUTIONARY" in bright pink at the top...that's a definite giveaway.
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I forgot about the Revo branding at the top. And I didn't know any shipped s-off. I thought those were Sensations. Regardless, I happy we finally got what we've been waiting for.

Rezound with S-OFF being sold

Someone on youtube is selling a htc rezound with S-OFF and locked bootloader. IDK if this would be helpful to devs for development purposes. He says he will be selling it on Swappa or he is willing to Trade for a phone of equal value.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P060aKs0fZ4
Is there any devs right now with a S-Off rezound?
There are a few devs that have s-off phones. But at this point and time I really think that no one cares about S-off anymore w/ the dev unlock.
yea the ones with s-off devices said it didnt really help with getting s-off for others anyways
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There are a few devs that have s-off phones. But at this point and time I really think that no one cares about S-off anymore w/ the dev unlock.
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yojoe600 said:
yea the ones with s-off devices said it didnt really help with getting s-off for others anyways
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Well I guess this thread was useless, I thought none of the devs had s-off. So do we actually need s-off or no?
You can do pretty much everything shy of flashing a radio w/ HTC DEV unlock.
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You can do pretty much everything shy of flashing a radio w/ HTC DEV unlock.
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Except revert 100% back to stock.
SamXp said:
Except revert 100% back to stock.
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Hmm.. that makes me curious. I returned my first Rezound for overheating; in doing so, i wiped everything, went back to GB, relocked, and then reflashed the offical RUU. What exactly was no longer stock about it? Yes, my phone said "relocked" instead of locked, but if that is all, i think we are pulling at strings there...
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Hmm.. that makes me curious. I returned my first Rezound for overheating; in doing so, i wiped everything, went back to GB, relocked, and then reflashed the offical RUU. What exactly was no longer stock about it? Yes, my phone said "relocked" instead of locked, but if that is all, i think we are pulling at strings there...
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Indeed. From what I understand, you'd have to revert the phone back to S-ON in order to return it to Verizon essentially "unscathed," otherwise you'd have to hope that the salesperson you return the phone to knows not to look for the "relocked" status. Having recently interacted with said staff, I'm quite confident in saying that unless they've been directed to specifically check, they're not going to go through the pains of checking for a relocked status.
That's the gamble you take for playing with Android development. Right now, most reports indicate a good track record for servicing unlocked phones. But their liability is certainly limited in the verbiage they provided, and that can change at any time.
Just worth mentioning that one should be aware that they are taking matters into their own hands, with the unlock method available to us.
Finding an S-OFF exploit isn't without its own risks, of course, but on platforms that have found the exploit, reverting to 100% stock is fairly easy.
So Verizon reps won't take my phone if its re locked?
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I won't be mad if that's the case but if the rep don't even put the phone in boot loader to see if its Ben relocked then they will just pass it along lol that's cool.
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Except revert 100% back to stock.
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I'm pretty sure the return warehouse doesn't even bother to check phones. All they do is connect it and run the program which reverts everything to 100% stock. I believe it even relocks the bootloader and shows "locked" as opposed to "relocked" I mean hell Verizon goes through too many phones to simply give a damn.
And thus the reason for the return rate of refurbished being so high.
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[Q] HBOOT Downgrade

I plan on taking my EVO 3D in to Sprint and want to find out if re-locking the bootloader (HBoot 1.5), and downgrading to hboot 1.4 will show up as "****LOCKED****" or still as "****RELOCKED****".
Also, in your experiences, does it even matter/do the Sprint employees even check the bootloader?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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I plan on taking my EVO 3D in to Sprint and want to find out if re-locking the bootloader (HBoot 1.5), and downgrading to hboot 1.4 will show up as "****LOCKED****" or still as "****RELOCKED****".
Also, in your experiences, does it even matter/do the Sprint employees even check the bootloader?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Hboot 1.4 doesn't have the locked banner, so if you downgrade it won't say locked, unlocked or relocked.
Whether they care if its relocked probably depends on what you're bringing it in for. Blown speaker, they probably won't care. Depends on the rep really. If you downgrade it, make sure you tell em not to update it or you'll get it back with hboot 1.5.
Thanks for the reply.
I ended up unrooting it and taking it to Sprint. The rep didn't check they are getting me a replacement phone!
Thanks again for the help.
patel4prez said:
Thanks for the reply.
I ended up unrooting it and taking it to Sprint. The rep didn't check they are getting me a replacement phone!
Thanks again for the help.
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The next one you get will probably have hboot 1.5 on it.
Yeah, most likely.
I think I can live with it though. It wasn't so bad on the last one, and I don't flash ROMs/Kernels everyday...
patel4prez said:
Yeah, most likely.
I think I can live with it though. It wasn't so bad on the last one, and I don't flash ROMs/Kernels everyday...
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I haven't flashed anything been running my own for a week Still haven't done that downgrade yet.. Will tho at some point.. I am hboot 1.5
Hahaha! Good luck with the downgrade...the first step looks challenging...
I couldn't get that red light no matter how many times I tried.
patel4prez said:
Hahaha! Good luck with the downgrade...the first step looks challenging...
I couldn't get that red light no matter how many times I tried.
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I don't thinks it's too insane .. Just been doing alot in windows ATM .. I have Fedora set up and may take on the downgrade just haven't had time to do it lol.
It's not as hard as you think.
Bricking takes a little bit of careful timing. Also, you might want to give the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit Live CD in my signature a try.
~co~
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It's not as hard as you think.
Bricking takes a little bit of careful timing. Also, you might want to give the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit Live CD in my signature a try.
~co~
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I will say if anyone is gonna do downgrade roll to that CD heard good things about how dummy proof it is for users that are not good using linux

Can I root version 1.22.651.3?

I just got my new EVO and it already loaded the new update. I was wondering if i can root it now? if not what are my options?
You'll need to use HTC's unlock with 1.22.651.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
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You'll need to use HTC's unlock with 1.22.651.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
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where do i find the unlock? Sorry i am fairly new at this.
You'll probably get flamed for not searching, as this is a common question. But anyway, go to htcdev.com and on the right side where it says choose device, look for 'other devices' or so me things similar. Also read a lot about rooting, everything you need is in the dev section. If you get stuck let us know
"We're coming from a pure power source"
What others have said. Just wanted to add in that your warranty will be void if you unlock with htcdev
To some it matters, to others it does not.
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What others have said. Just wanted to add in that your warranty will be void if you unlock with htcdev
To some it matters, to others it does not.
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This only voids your HTC warranty. When was the last time anyone has used that?
It does NOT prevent you from getting repairs through sprint or insurance
HTC's warranty is lame anyway. You have to send your phone to them and it could be gone for a month.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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HTC's warranty is lame anyway. You have to send your phone to them and it could be gone for a month.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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This is funny because my already htcdev rooted, and reverted back evo is now in Texas for my camera repair. No mention
yet that I have voided my warranty, we'll see what happens. They better not say rooting fuk'd my camera, it went out gradually.
NOW FIX MY F"N PHONE!!
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This is funny because my already htcdev rooted, and reverted back evo is now in Texas for my camera repair. No mention
yet that I have voided my warranty, we'll see what happens. They better not say rooting fuk'd my camera, it went out gradually.
NOW FIX MY F"N PHONE!!
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The disclaimer said that it may void parts of the warranty, so I'm hoping they'll still fix hardware issues like that. Unless they want to start making claims about rooting breaking things at a hardware level.
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where do i find the unlock? Sorry i am fairly new at this.
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Not sure if you have rooted a phone before, but i just rooted my phone for the first time last weekend this way and it's really easy. Best of luck but i don't think you should have any issues figuring it out though.
This is the way i did it though. Having the written instructions and the video really helped. http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-root/how-to-root-htc-evo-4g-lte-unlock-bootloadertwrp-recovery/
S-off
If you root your phone on 122.651.3, it must be done through htcdev and you still could file an insurance claim with sprint?
Is there a way to S-off the phone...I will not touch until I can do both!
So, my predicament is a little different. Prior to the OTA update (not sure what the OS version was at that time) I used the one click script root method to root my phone, it worked perfectly. With root access, I installed GooManager and installed TWRP recovery. After that I used the Panda S-Off method to get to s-off. With all three pieces in place, I never flashed a custom ROM (primarily becasue they are all Sense based ROMs and I am looking for a way to fix the multitasking issue) because I realized that I didn't clear out my Google Wallet settings prior to rooting my phone. After reading a few threads on the NFC sensitivity I decided to RUU my phone back to stock to try to recover my NFC/Google Wallet functionality. After RUUing my phone, I was surprised to see that the bootloader was still reporting s-off, but recover was back to stock and I had no root access. I was able to recover NFC and get GW working again. At this point the OTA came out, so I decided to take it. Now I am on the latest OS version 1.22.651.3 and there is no root method available except the HTC unlock. I'm just wondering if there are any "unique" options for me since I have s-off, but don't have root?
Rxpert said:
This only voids your HTC warranty. When was the last time anyone has used that?
It does NOT prevent you from getting repairs through sprint or insurance
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Really? I don't know why but I was under the impression that if you were HTCDev unlocked that it would invalidate any repairs or replacements through Sprint as well. I figured they had an agreement to communicate this to one another. Have you had personal experience that can validate this?
[edit] I suppose you would just relock the bootloader and then unroot and Sprint would have no idea you ever did anything? Is this correct?
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Really? yes I don't know why but I was under the impression that if you were HTCDev unlocked that it would invalidate any repairs or replacements through Sprint as well no. I figured they had an agreement to communicate this to one anothernope. Have you had personal experience that can validate this?taken rooted phones in before
[edit] I suppose you would just relock the bootloader and then unroot and Sprint would have no idea you ever did anything? Is this correct?
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Sprint does NOT care if you are rooted. They will still repair the device if it is not rooting that directly caused the issue. Its a company wide policy.
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If you root your phone on 122.651.3, it must be done through htcdev and you still could file an insurance claim with sprint?
Is there a way to S-off the phone...I will not touch until I can do both!
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Yes, you can can unlock via HTc dev and still get an insurance claim.
No you cannot get S-OFF (although the past S-OFF method worked even if you were already unlocked, so it may not even matter)
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Sprint does NOT care if you are rooted. They will still repair the device if it is not rooting that directly caused the issue. Its a company wide policy.
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Yes, you can can unlock via HTc dev and still get an insurance claim.
No you cannot get S-OFF (although the past S-OFF method worked even if you were already unlocked, so it may not even matter)
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So the moral of the story is if my phone is completely stock and I want to eventually fully root it either s-off I need to ignore the 1.22.651.3 update?
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Curb71 said:
So the moral of the story is if my phone is completely stock and I want to eventually fully root it either s-off I need to ignore the 1.22.651.3 update?
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Theres no reason to wait. S-OFF wont wipe your data or anything like that. Do it while you still can. You can S-OFF the device and run the bootloader customizer so it shows S-ON and locked.
Sprint will never know you rooted
Rxpert said:
Theres no reason to wait. S-OFF wont wipe your data or anything like that. Do it while you still can. You can S-OFF the device and run the bootloader customizer so it shows S-ON and locked.
Sprint will never know you rooted
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the last time I rooted a phone was when the evo 3d dropped. so everything since then is over my head. since Im still on 651.1 I'm trying to figure out what steps I need to follow and what different options/ways of rooting there are. What's the best way? I see this way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577 and the regaw and the lazy panda and I think a few more. I just want the phone fully rooted like my evo and evo 3d were. but I'm reading about google wallet, rooting, unlocking bootloader, s-off, custom recovery, I thought this was all done in a step or two before...
Curb71 said:
the last time I rooted a phone was when the evo 3d dropped. so everything since then is over my head. since Im still on 651.1 I'm trying to figure out what steps I need to follow and what different options/ways of rooting there are. What's the best way? I see this way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577 and the regaw and the lazy panda and I think a few more. I just want the phone fully rooted like my evo and evo 3d were. but I'm reading about google wallet, rooting, unlocking bootloader, s-off, custom recovery, I thought this was all done in a step or two before...
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It is pretty much 2 steps
Use this first (STEP 1):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then lazypanda (STEP 2).
Everythings automated. When you get S-OFF you can flash a custom ROM, or leave the one you currently have. Just remember to never take an OTA
I'd suggest running the bootloader customizer too once S-OFF has been achieved. Once again, all automated
Rxpert said:
Sprint does NOT care if you are rooted. They will still repair the device if it is not rooting that directly caused the issue. Its a company wide policy.
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Appreciate the reply. It's been years since I was a Sprint customer, last phone I had with them until now was a Blackberry Curve 8330, so their policies with various Android stuff is still new to me but I'm glad to hear it's not a big deal. I think I may actually htc unlock this weekend then and finally give some custom roms a test run.
lordelin said:
I just got my new EVO and it already loaded the new update. I was wondering if i can root it now? if not what are my options?
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Use the RegawMOD root, its automated and easy and he updated it to the 1.22....3 version, only problem I had was installing the root.zip in TWRP at the end of the install, there are real good instruction on pages 81-83 of that forum to help if you cant locate the .zip file. Worked great for me and am rooted, no s-off though will have to wait till there is a reliable exploit, the lazy panda method is too risky for me right now.

Help Reverting Back to Stock

Hey all!
I want to send my phone back to HTC for some warranty work (warranty expires within the week so I need to get this done asap). I'm having some call quality issues as well as network issues (limited 4G when my wife's LTEvo is better). Anyway, I'm trying to get it back to stock and unrooted.
I found videos by QBKing77. From his videos, it looks like I'm supposed to lock the bootloader and then unroot the phone. When he shows the bootloader screen, his shows tampered and unlocked. The lock bootloader video is then supposed to make it say relocked and tampered and then the unroot will take away the tampered notice. The thing is, I don't see those on mine. I know my phone is rooted, is it possible I didn't unlock the bootloader? If so, is there a way for me to check?
Basically, I'm looking for the best way for me to relock my phone and have it good enough that nothing looks like I'm violating any warranty. I've seen things about RUUs, but there are different versions it seems. I'm just not sure where to begin or what I need for my phone. I did not unroot via HTC's website or anything like that. But I did it all about a year ago, so I'm not exactly sure what I did.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Viperboy has a tool that you can use to return your phone to a completely stock, locked state. You must be S-off in order to use it, but if you're concerned about sending in your phone that's obviously been tampered with, it's the best way to go, in my opinion. The link to his tool is below. Also, this type of post would normally go in Q&A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
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FinZ28 said:
Viperboy has a tool that you can use to return your phone to a completely stock, locked state. You must be S-off in order to use it, but if you're concerned about sending in your phone that's obviously been tampered with, it's the best way to go, in my opinion. The link to his tool is below. Also, this type of post would normally go in Q&A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
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Thank you very much. I'll look into this. Does this take my phone from S-off to S-on when it's done? If not, do I need to do that myself or does Sprint and/or HTC not care about that?
If they fix my problem, will I be able to root my phone again after this? Not a necessity, but I'm curious.
Oh, and thanks for being kind when I posted in the wrong section. If a moderator can move it, that'd be great. Sorry.
KB3NRY said:
Thank you very much. I'll look into this. Does this take my phone from S-off to S-on when it's done? If not, do I need to do that myself or does Sprint and/or HTC not care about that?
If they fix my problem, will I be able to root my phone again after this? Not a necessity, but I'm curious.
Oh, and thanks for being kind when I posted in the wrong section. If a moderator can move it, that'd be great. Sorry.
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Yes, if you use the tool it will revert your phone to S-on.
As far as whether or not Sprint or HTC cares is almost anybody's guess. I've seen people say they don't care, and others say that they do. Just to be safe go back completely stock. You can always root it again once you get it back
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Yes it will take the s-off flag to s-on, you will be back to stock, updated to 3.16, after that if it gets fixed/repaired you should be able to get s-off with moonshine / facepalm / dirty racun whichever it's easier for you...
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Thank you both very much! This sounds like exactly what I was looking for. I'll give it a shot and see if I'm still having the issues I'm having. If I am, I'll send it back. We send my wife's phone back to HTC once (never rooted) and they were pretty easy to work with. Just cost us about $8 in shipping or something like that.
I am honest with Sprint employees about my phone being rooted whenever I have an issue. They never seem to mind, they just can't always be as certain if the problem is their problem or something from me messing with it...and I understand that. I usually test with my wife's phone and see if I have the same problem or not. Anyway, for what it's worth, Sprint has always been good to me as far as my phone being rooted, but I wasn't asking for warranty work at those times.

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