Some people might want to get rid of the modified bootloader after running the revolutionary beta to get s-off. It is pretty easy.
Also if you run a RUU you will need to run this to get proper s-off.
1. Get s-off
1a. I recommend not useing clockwork mod and instead installing TeamWin Recovery Project2 .Download the eng bootloader and put it in the root of your sd-card
Link-> PG86IMG_eng-hboot.zip
Rename it to be PG86IMG.zip3. Disable quickboot in system power settings
Shutdown the phone, hold down the volume down button and hit the power/hold button4. Once in the bootloader hitting volume up will ask if you want to update, hit volume up again to accept and then reboot.5. Remove or rename the PG86IMG.zip in order to get into the bootloader again, as it will always try to apply the update.
ionstorm66 said:
Some people might want to get rid of the modified bootloader after running the revolutionary beta to get s-off. It is pretty easy.
1. Get s-off
1a. I recommend not useing clockwork mod and instead installing TeamWin Recovery Project2.Download the eng bootloader and put it in the root of your sd-card
Link-> PG86IMG_eng-hboot.zip
Rename it to be PG86IMG.zip
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Whats the difference? Mine says eMMC H.Boot
The eng bootloader has s-off stock, and has more fastboot options. It also removes anything that revolutionary did in the bootloader to get s-off.
knowledge561 said:
Whats the difference? Mine says eMMC H.Boot
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Thanks. I would have never known.
ionstorm66 said:
1. Get s-off
1a. I recommend not useing clockwork mod and instead installing TeamWin Recovery Project
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When people make recommendations like this, I have to question why? Does CWM brick phones if you use this method? Is there a performance issue when trying this?
Not to be an ass or anything but you have 2 total post in 2 months. Please elaborate this recommendation before you have hundreds of thousands of people following your recommendation. Personal experiences as well as any confirmed bugs that others have experienced would be good.
I think that is more for Devs
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unknown_owner said:
When people make recommendations like this, I have to question why? Does CWM brick phones if you use this method? Is there a performance issue when trying this?
Not to be an ass or anything but you have 2 total post in 2 months. Please elaborate this recommendation before you have hundreds of thousands of people following your recommendation. Personal experiences as well as any confirmed bugs that others have experienced would be good.
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If you have some basic knowledge and have used revolutionary you would know why he suggested it, so maybe you should read more and he can elaborate less? BTW his instructions are perfect.
TimidRat said:
If you have some basic knowledge and have used revolutionary you would know why he suggested it, so maybe you should read more and he can elaborate less? BTW his instructions are perfect.
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Agreed
Locked & Loaded
unknown_owner said:
When people make recommendations like this, I have to question why? Does CWM brick phones if you use this method? Is there a performance issue when trying this?
Not to be an ass or anything but you have 2 total post in 2 months. Please elaborate this recommendation before you have hundreds of thousands of people following your recommendation. Personal experiences as well as any confirmed bugs that others have experienced would be good.
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plus one dude sounded like a strait ****
ion thanks bro **** worked like a charm now im clean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
worked perfectly for me... thx OP
Worked awesome! Loving the look and being able to say I have the engineering bootloader, thanks OP.
hey +1 on the thanks, easy to do and kool eng boott
You know what f**k it, i'm not going to get into any internet wars for something that is not mine but never said anythuing was wrong with revolutionary, let's get that straight. I have used CWM for evolution, epic, e3d, and Asus TF. Never had anything go wrong. So if some says not to use it, I'd like to know if I need to seek an alternative for each device. No I'm not going to search/read any he said she said post on the internet to find an answer. If the answer has to do with people and not the actual programs themselves, then the recommendation is mute.
Thanks on the steps btw
And to clarify, revolutionary is the only method to get s-off right now. There are 2 recoveries available after the s-off: CWM and TWRP.
EEE Pad Transformer sent this
Also Sprint can't tell if your EVO is a dev unit or not because It's an official eng bootloader from HTC.
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kpkimmel said:
Also Sprint can't tell if your EVO is a dev unit or not because It's an official eng bootloader from HTC.
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Are you saying that Sprint can somehow poll our devices and deduce what bootloader is installed? Or do you mean a Sprint rep with hands-on access? If the latter, I'm fairly certain they would suspect something was up when they saw S-OFF and the ENG bootloader. Either one would be a sure sign that the phone was something other than stock.
unknown_owner said:
You know what f**k it, i'm not going to get into any internet wars for something that is not mine but never said anythuing was wrong with revolutionary, let's get that straight. I have used CWM for evolution, epic, e3d, and Asus TF. Never had anything go wrong. So if some says not to use it, I'd like to know if I need to seek an alternative for each device. No I'm not going to search/read any he said she said post on the internet to find an answer. If the answer has to do with people and not the actual programs themselves, then the recommendation is mute.
Thanks on the steps btw
And to clarify, revolutionary is the only method to get s-off right now. There are 2 recoveries available after the s-off: CWM and TWRP.
EEE Pad Transformer sent this
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Well, most of us who got our E4G on release day and rooted immediately didn't like early versions of CWM because it wouldn't wipe properly or completely sometimes (giving rise to ridiculous multi-wipe scripts). That and all the associated wonkyness that would follow could be eliminated before it began by simply using Amon Ra and avoiding CWM like the plague...
...even though I've used CWM successfully on devices that have no Amon Ra given our collective early experiences with it (and absolute lack of problems with stable versions of Amon Ra) on the E4G we never used anything but Amon Ra and never had any problems....but we did with CWM at one point.
That's likely why he said it and is why you hear that a lot still. Lots of us E4G guys jumped to E3D immediately. Even though CWM fixed that problem I hear we wouldn't know, we used Amon Ra with nary a problem.
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Are you saying that Sprint can somehow poll our devices and deduce what bootloader is installed? Or do you mean a Sprint rep with hands-on access? If the latter, I'm fairly certain they would suspect something was up when they saw S-OFF and the ENG bootloader. Either one would be a sure sign that the phone was something other than stock.
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A handful of them shipped S-OFF and some of those were probably eng hboots...that and it doesn't say "REVOLUTIONARY" in bright pink at the top...that's a definite giveaway.
If you're going to repost something you could at least link back to where you took everything from...
daneurysm said:
A handful of them shipped S-OFF and some of those were probably eng hboots...that and it doesn't say "REVOLUTIONARY" in bright pink at the top...that's a definite giveaway.
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I forgot about the Revo branding at the top. And I didn't know any shipped s-off. I thought those were Sensations. Regardless, I happy we finally got what we've been waiting for.
Related
I got lazy and now I'm paying for it... Used the HTC One Click Root instead of doing it the old fashioned way. Now I seem to not have any image on the phone to boot from... I can not get into recovery only HBOOT.
Thank you in advance!
akajeeves said:
I got lazy and now I'm paying for it... Used the HTC One Click Root instead of doing it the old fashioned way. Now I seem to not have any image on the phone to boot from... I can not get into recovery only HBOOT.
Thank you in advance!
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Don't do anything at all to the phone until (hopefully) bftb0 responds here with detailed instructions. Absolutely do not try to run the RUU from a PC to try to re-flash the stock phone ROM, it could brick it in this instance.
bftb0 will want to know what HBoot version you are on. 1.49 S=OFF, 1.47 S=ON, or what.
pb00100 XC SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.49.0000 (PB0010000)
MICROP-0111
TOUCH PANEL-SYN0104
RADIO-2.42.01.04.27
Feb 8 2010,00:08:56
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pb00100 XC SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.49.0000 (PB0010000)
MICROP-0111
TOUCH PANEL-SYN0104
RADIO-2.42.01.04.27
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Thanks, like I said hopefully btbf0 will chime in here. He is the expert at unbricking. Be comforted by the fact that more than likely it is not really bricked, just a little hiccup that's more than likely recoverable.
btbf0's first step will likely detail how you can go from 1.49 S=ON to 1.49 S=OFF. Having S-OFF enables you even more choices for unbricking.
Probably the easiest thing would just to put the flashback pb(blahblah)img.zip on the SD card and boot with the volume button down.
But I'd wait for bftb0 to chime in.
hell i wouldn't mind getting s-off on my own phone... didn't realize we could do that... been a while since i looked into it though
akajeeves said:
hell i wouldn't mind getting s-off on my own phone... didn't realize we could do that... been a while since i looked into it though
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How To Install Engineering bootloader FOR LEAK ROOTERS
@akajeeves, be very careful if you follow any instructions in that thread. I would still suggest waiting another 12 or more hours to see if bftb0 gives you specific instructions.
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How To Install Engineering bootloader FOR LEAK ROOTERS
@akajeeves, be very careful if you follow any instructions in that thread. I would still suggest waiting another 12 or more hours to see if bftb0 gives you specific instructions.
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I will definitely have to do some reading there.
But yeah I have no intention of going forward tonight anyway it's late and the phone isn't being missed.
Patience is the better part of valor. At least that's what I hear.
akajeeves said:
I will definitely have to do some reading there.
But yeah I have no intention of going forward tonight anyway it's late and the phone isn't being missed.
Patience is the better part of valor. At least that's what I hear.
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Good to hear! He must be busy, haven't heard from him today. If I have to I can direct you to threads where he solved other people's soft-brickings, but we'll see tomorrow.
Bump in hopes of response
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Bump in hopes of response
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what exactly does the phone do when you attempt to boot it normal? does it go to a black screen? does it go to splash screen at all? are you able to get any logcat?
Goes to screen with picture of a phone and a triangle with an exclamation mark on it
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Ok this phone is haunted.... I put it down the other day cause it was getting late and did not have time to get to it yesterday... when I went to boot it today it worked perfectly fine. I'm so completely confused at how it could just start working out of nowhere.
Did one of you break into my apartment last night and fix it?
akajeeves said:
Ok this phone is haunted.... I put it down the other day cause it was getting late and did not have time to get to it yesterday... when I went to boot it today it worked perfectly fine. I'm so completely confused at how it could just start working out of nowhere.
Did one of you break into my apartment last night and fix it?
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The April Fool's XDA Gremlins' reach is long and powerful! This team consists of rotating members picked at random by a computer.
Hope it keeps working for you!
I definitely appreciate the help even though the phone decided to fix itself... would you recommend flashing the s=off bootloader next time I update my ROM to provide increased recovery ability or no?
Addendum : from what I understand it will allow me to flash stuff from hboot or am I misunderstanding?
Edit 2 : does nand save the bootloader too?
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akajeeves said:
I definitely appreciate the help even though the phone decided to fix itself... would you recommend flashing the s=off bootloader next time I update my ROM to provide increased recovery ability or no?
Addendum : from what I understand it will allow me to flash stuff from hboot or am I misunderstanding?
Edit 2 : does nand save the bootloader too?
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I would recommend achieving S=OFF as soon as you're comfortable in doing so. Just please be careful and ask questions first if you have any doubt.
I'm definitely not the expert, so someone else might have to answer some of your questions.
1. I believe that's true re: flashing from hboot.
2. Nandroid does NOT save the bootloader, ever.
Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
You'll be fine, best buy will still take care of ya. Go for it.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Bestbuy doesn't have a policy, but if it is rooted, chances are you'll get a dumbass who won't replace it because it's rooted. The reason they will know this is because of the superuser app. If you ever decide to replace, go back to stock rooted, hide superuser the from apps list using a custom launcher like Launcher Pro and you'll be good.
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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That's the truth
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I would wait till revolutionary or who ever finds a way to s-off 1.5 I'm pretty sure there has been progress.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/11/hboot-15000-close-to-getting-s-off-on-htc-evo-3d.html
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is there an eta on 1.5?
Yes you should root.
Take05 said:
Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
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i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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timezone12 said:
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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Horrible comparison. Rooting your phone is more like adding a performance chip to your car that makes the car run different than from the factory, which if something happened to it, such as the engine blows because you removed the rev limiter (overclocking then your phone overheats and won't boot anymore), that would be your fault and the warranty should be voided.
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I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
Sad Panda said:
I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
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I was simply trying to figure out whats gonna be different about waiting for a different method other then HTC's. Ive only broken 1 phone in the past 6 years, and thats cus i was pushed in a lake... Not really my fault. Im not worried about hardware, but more or less when people say HTC Will know that the phone has been rooted no matter what afterwards... Not a big deal if its not gonna affect fixing my phone should i break it in the future.. (i just dont like people knowing what ive done to my electronics) As for using the root. im finally wanting to pull the trigger becasue i just moved and want tethering, as well as improved battery life. (my 4G seemed to get 25%-50% battery life after root)
Im rambling now, mostly cus my brother is distracting me and cant remember what ive written.
Im mostly just looking for peoples thoughts as far as HTC's method vs. Waiting for another actual s-off. unbeknown to HTC. I know the differences about flashing roms and what not, so just the basic question above.
blooregard_q_kazoo said:
i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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I meant should i wait for s-off via someone else (rev i think). or just use htc's method (with s-on)
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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Yeah this guy said it perfectly...
I only root for free hotspot. Old phones need speed boost but not so much now
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schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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haha. I love this response!
If you're questioning yourself, then you probably should not.
I saw somewhere that perm root has been achieved, but it is not being released because it could be hard to fix if you screw up the system partition.
Heres the thing though...
Don't we have the recovery files that can reflash the shipping OS version?
Also seeing as how we do not have S=Off that means we can't screw up the hboot or really flash anything that is "unautorized".
That means we could fix any issues by reflashing the stock software right?
Or is the perm root not being released because the method is too difficult.
If that is the case, I understand not wanting a bunch of casual flashers/rooters attempting this, but there are those of us that can actually follow instructions well. Heck I even rooted my old Nexus One without using the official unlock command. It involved switching SD cards at just the right moment while running special scripts for ADB and other craziness.
Saw this today,
http://www.androidauthority.com/how...android-2-3-4-gingerbread-in-one-click-36933/
Bottom of article states you can install custom ROM's
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at the bottom of the page it sources
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346729
which is temp root, who ever read that prbly didnt know the difference lol
ah, thank you.
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Marine6680 said:
I saw somewhere that perm root has been achieved, but it is not being released because it could be hard to fix if you screw up the system partition.
Heres the thing though...
Don't we have the recovery files that can reflash the shipping OS version?
Also seeing as how we do not have S=Off that means we can't screw up the hboot or really flash anything that is "unautorized".
That means we could fix any issues by reflashing the stock software right?
Or is the perm root not being released because the method is too difficult.
If that is the case, I understand not wanting a bunch of casual flashers/rooters attempting this, but there are those of us that can actually follow instructions well. Heck I even rooted my old Nexus One without using the official unlock command. It involved switching SD cards at just the right moment while running special scripts for ADB and other craziness.
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I think the other part of this issue is that he (Evil DevNull -- oops I said a bad word around here) is using an exploit in the sim card system. He said he burned up two cards doing this. Probably not a very safe method at this point along with the other potential problems.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I think the other part of this issue is that he (Evil DevNull -- oops I said a bad word around here) is using an exploit in the sim card system. He said he burned up two cards doing this. Probably not a very safe method at this point along with the other potential problems.
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Their twitter conversations have a youtube video showing root, have not watched it yet.
The title says Resound gets permanent root.
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The dude that did the youtube video is kolahib001. Says he has perm root on one of the other sites in the rezound forum. I have not seen any proof of s-off on youtube or another site.
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If they can release a perm root solution that is safe with S-On, I'll take it. That's all I want right now, and I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy with it for now as well.
Good luck.
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jbh00jh said:
The dude that did the youtube video is kolahib001. Says he has perm root on one of the other sites in the rezound forum. I have not seen any proof of s-off on youtube or another site.
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It is assumed he has a Factory rooted device, or possibly that a glitch in the "Root Checker" program still shows it was rooted after a reboot when it really wasn't. Also, it seems rather shady that he's already asking for money:
Would it be greedy of me to ask for a $5 donation from 500 people?
I really want this set of rims for Christmas.
Am I asking for too much?
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He started a new thread on the other Dev forums (the 1st one was locked) and we've asked him to Open Titanium before and after the reboot, as well as show us the Bootloader screen to see if it's a factory S-Off/Rooted phone or not. Also, we've asked him for his method. Just seems very shady to me.
Speaking of money...anyone willing to organize and spearhead donations to the developer or group that achieves s-off?
I know this was done on other phones where people pledged $x amount of money.
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It is assumed he has a Factory rooted device, or possibly that a glitch in the "Root Checker" program still shows it was rooted after a reboot when it really wasn't. Also, it seems rather shady that he's already asking for money:
He started a new thread on the other Dev forums (the 1st one was locked) and we've asked him to Open Titanium before and after the reboot, as well as show us the Bootloader screen to see if it's a factory S-Off/Rooted phone or not. Also, we've asked him for his method. Just seems very shady to me.
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Just another dude looking for attention,or con man.
jbh00jh said:
Just another dude looking for attention,or con man.
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Pretty much. I wouldn't be asking anyone for a dime period let alone prior to providing a full disclosure of the methods used to obtain root status.
Just like everyone else....I'll believe it when I see it.
Blah... perm root S=On is good enough for me right now if it can happen.
I'll pitch in a few bucks for that... I'll throw a few more for S=Off.
First time since the G1 that I had a device before root was achieved. I wanted to take advantage of the penny sale at Verizon is why I picked it up now. I would have gotten a galaxy s 2 had Verizon offered one. Oh well, every HTC so far has been broken eventually. I hope we don't have to wait too long though.
There was already a donation thread started somewhere I believe. But Evil was the only verbal dev working on root/s-off and said he didn't want money.
Marine6680 said:
Blah... perm root S=On is good enough for me right now if it can happen..
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This is dangerous. If something happens to /system you're screwed because without recovery it can't be..... well recovered.
There is already a temp root method that you can use to kill the bloat. Outside of that root doesn't really provide you with any other abilities except maybe to steal wifi tethering without subscribing.
Without s off you wont be able to overclock, flash custom Roms or alternate radios....so why do people think they need to have perm root without s-off?
There are plenty other things you can do with Root without S-Off.
THe EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 had the HTC Methosd which left u with an unlocked bootloader and S-On and Flashing kernels and such had to be done thru Fastboot Commands, Which was if the ROM had a Custom Kernel as a Default. Now JoeyKrim created the Flash Image GUI which was a hella of a creation for the people who were stuck in this position. Check out his app if u havent yet. If for some strange reason this was tyhe only resort for us, it wouldnt be bad at all
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THe EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 had the HTC Methosd which left u with an unlocked bootloader and S-On and Flashing kernels and such had to be done thru Fastboot Commands, Which was if the ROM had a Custom Kernel as a Default. Now JoeyKrim created the Flash Image GUI which was a hella of a creation for the people who were stuck in this position. Check out his app if u havent yet. If for some strange reason this was tyhe only resort for us, it wouldnt be bad at all
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I agree... it wouldn't bother me. If only HTCDev.com worked.
con247 said:
I agree... it wouldn't bother me. If only HTCDev.com worked.
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Yeah no kidding. I doubt Verizon would let it push thru too. Ahh well. We'll just have to wait for it the old fashion way
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So to prevent getting flammed over dumb ??, does anybody do this via RDP? I am willing to pay! I have been reading in the shadows for a some time and have a good idea and have even DL the dev files but after the new update mad:), I just cant finger out how to move foward. All i am looking to do is remove bloatware and use moblie teather/WiFi hotspot so I can use my TF201 on the road and maybe a few other things (nothing crazy).
How much you willing to pay?
sandjunky said:
So to prevent getting flammed over dumb ??, does anybody do this via RDP? I am willing to pay! I have been reading in the shadows for a some time and have a good idea and have even DL the dev files but after the new update mad:), I just cant finger out how to move foward. All i am looking to do is remove bloatware and use moblie teather/WiFi hotspot so I can use my TF201 on the road and maybe a few other things (nothing crazy).
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Why pay? I will help you
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All the help here is FREE do some reading
Thanks for the help viperboy!! I think the biggest prob is I am with alllllll the differnet types of roots, roms, CMD and so on. just not clear on the one that fitts what i am tryng to do.......
How bout I change that too "donate" to the coffee fund
What hboot do you have
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Hboot
shoot xc ship s-on rl
1.50.0000
sandjunky said:
Thanks for the help viperboy!! I think the biggest prob is I am with alllllll the differnet types of roots, roms, CMD and so on. just not clear on the one that fitts what i am tryng to do.......
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The only thing that matters is what hboot you have. That will tell us what root method to use.
Hboot
shoot xc ship s-on rl
1.50.0000
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Hboot 1.50 can only be rooted with the HTCDEV unlock method. Instructions here, not hard, just read through a few times and follow all the directions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
sitlet...
question for you.
was considering htc's method.
with the biggest problem on the nets being old/out of date info...
(i saw jtniggle's latest edit was dec 7th)
what's your feeling on the set of instructions he has up?
thanks!
will also read through his thread, of course. but, another informed opinion never hurts.
B-)
cipher77 said:
sitlet...
question for you.
was considering htc's method.
with the biggest problem on the nets being old/out of date info...
(i saw jtniggle's latest edit was dec 7th)
what's your feeling on the set of instructions he has up?
thanks!
will also read through his thread, of course. but, another informed opinion never hurts.
B-)
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well i just followed the instructions here ---> http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-evo-3d-2-08-651-2-and-later-htc-unlock-method/
(i respond better to video/tut)
zedomax is a good guy i remember him rom my EPIC touch 4g days
i smashed my phone and ended up getting a brand new asurion replacement and it came with hboot 1.5
i had to update via RUU 2.17 because the "unlock bin code" wouldnt stick
either method is still ok
but i would recommend using TWRP 2.0 instead of 1.1 or what ever it was
all you have to do is download TWRP 2.0 rather than the old one and apply it the same way through fastboot
pm me if you (or ANYONE) needs any help or has questions (took me about 20 minutes to do on my own)
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on a general note i would NEVER pay for something that is found free, i almost paid 100 bucks to have my evo 3d flashed to boost mobile till i did a 2 night research quest and figured it out
sitlet said:
The only thing that matters is what hboot you have. That will tell us what root method to use.
Hboot 1.50 can only be rooted with the HTCDEV unlock method. Instructions here, not hard, just read through a few times and follow all the directions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
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nice and thanks!! I tryed this last night and it timed out "waiting for device" in the CMD line, not sure why (it way waay late for me so i prob over looked something).
sandjunky said:
nice and thanks!! I tryed this last night and it timed out "waiting for device" in the CMD line, not sure why (it way waay late for me so i prob over looked something).
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i like zedomax's guide because ALL files are in one place and its a little simpler than the one in the sticky
my guess is you didnt have the drivers installed or didnt have the phone in "fastboot"
I know i overlooked something some place.
Bear gri11z said:
well i just followed the instructions here ---> http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-evo-3d-2-08-651-2-and-later-htc-unlock-method/
(i respond better to video/tut)
zedomax is a good guy i remember him rom my EPIC touch 4g days
i smashed my phone and ended up getting a brand new asurion replacement and it came with hboot 1.5
i had to update via RUU 2.17 because the "unlock bin code" wouldnt stick
either method is still ok
but i would recommend using TWRP 2.0 instead of 1.1 or what ever it was
all you have to do is download TWRP 2.0 rather than the old one and apply it the same way through fastboot
pm me if you (or ANYONE) needs any help or has questions (took me about 20 minutes to do on my own)
EDIT*
on a general note i would NEVER pay for something that is found free, i almost paid 100 bucks to have my evo 3d flashed to boost mobile till i did a 2 night research quest and figured it out
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Follow the vid in this post, worked for me a couple months ago and still kickin ass
Xenophanesvii said:
Follow the vid in this post, worked for me a couple months ago and still kickin ass
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but now since we got the 2.17 update you must apply the RUU before using the HTC unlock bin..
i tried to update OTA rather than running the RUU but to no avail the unlock bin wouldnt stick or allow me to get to the unlock screen on my phone... but after reading Reapers post i did the RUU update and POOF it stuck
please keep all posts out of the developers thread. we are free to discuss at liberty here.
at this time,looks like the quota for rezound testers has been filled
(dev thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1578334 do not post)
scotty1223 said:
please keep all posts out of the developers thread. we are free to discuss at liberty here.
at this time,looks like the quota for rezound testers has been filled
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In before mighty_markus!
tekhna said:
In before mighty_markus!
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bwahaha
tekhna said:
In before mighty_markus!
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they pull this off im donating even though im broke!
superchilpil said:
Didn't someone say the rl changes to rh when you get s-off?
S-on rl
S-off rh
I'm pretty skeptical, the second shot fails to show you the Verizon on top of the phone. The s-off ones aren't branded right?
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my developer s-off rezound is rl. id say that it has nothing to do with s-on/off
mighty_markus12 said:
they pull this off im donating even though im broke!
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You still need to HTC unlock though, it sounds like.
tekhna said:
You still need to HTC unlock though, it sounds like.
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i dunno but i do know i spoke to 3 big devs at rootwiki and they are willing to come over to the rezound if we get s-off. also probably because they just dropped the price of a rezound to a mere $50.
either way im stoked!
Patience is all we needed . We eventually got unlocked, then ICS leaks, now sense 4.0 with a rumored ics ots friday now maybe s off . Great . Aosp and cm9 hopefully a little after all that too.
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mighty_markus12 said:
i dunno but i do know i spoke to 3 big devs at rootwiki and they are willing to come over to the rezound if we get s-off. also probably because they just dropped the price of a rezound to a mere $50.
either way im stoked!
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The rezound is an amazing phone, makes sense to me. I'm hoping for an AOKP too.
Reaper0294 said:
The rezound is an amazing phone, makes sense to me. I'm hoping for an AOKP too.
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i know the maker of the gummy rom may be interested.
Reaper0294 said:
The rezound is an amazing phone, makes sense to me. I'm hoping for an AOKP too.
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Why? I mean, for devs s-off doesn't really do anything, unless there's a way to do it without the HTC Unlock, which might mitigate their concerns about the warranty. It doesn't sound like this s-off method mitigates the warranty issue, for those that have it.
tekhna said:
Why? I mean, for devs s-off doesn't really do anything, unless there's a way to do it without the HTC Unlock, which might mitigate their concerns about the warranty. It doesn't sound like this s-off method mitigates the warranty issue, for those that have it.
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that's why alot of them migrated to the gneuxs because the bootloader can be easily unlocked then relocked to a factory state. it's the same reason alot of moto devices don't get alot of dev supoort. as i said i "heard" if we had s-off alot of other devs might be coming over. nothing is set in stone.
i do wish these guys luck though in achieving s-off for us.
tekhna said:
You still need to HTC unlock though, it sounds like.
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prolly just to get root access. after you are radio s-off,it wont matter if youre unlocked or not
tekhna said:
Why? I mean, for devs s-off doesn't really do anything,
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i think its more of an "ease of dealing with things" aspect. while its true,htcdev unlock lets you flash roms and kernels,its a PITA with android info documents,and either launching recovery from fastboot,or jumping thru hoops to get hboot to flash your kernel.
plus,on a personal level an s-off device is muc more fun to have.
i effin knew as soon as i traded my gnex for an s-off rezound that some sort of exploit would be found
mighty_markus12 said:
that's why alot of them migrated to the gneuxs because the bootloader can be easily unlocked then relocked to a factory state. it's the same reason alot of moto devices don't get alot of dev supoort. as i said i "heard" if we had s-off alot of other devs might be coming over. nothing is set in stone.
i do wish these guys luck though in achieving s-off for us.
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scotty1223 said:
prolly just to get root access. after you are radio s-off,it wont matter if youre unlocked or not
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Right, but if you're unlocked then even s-off won't bring you back to factory state, unless they figure out a way to use the s-off to get you back to "s-on locked." Otherwise your phone will still show relocked, even if you return from s-off to s-on. And even then, HTC still knows you ran the HTC Unlock tool because you have to get the keys from them.
Edit--basically, s-off is cool, but s-off that requires HTC Unlock seems of dubious utility. It's totally cool, and I welcome the development, but I'm at a loss to figure out what S-off gives me other than flashing radios, which doesn't seem necessary.
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Right, but if you're unlocked then even s-off won't bring you back to factory state, unless they figure out a way to use the s-off to get you back to "s-on locked." Otherwise your phone will still show relocked, even if you return from s-off to s-on. And even then, HTC still knows you ran the HTC Unlock tool because you have to get the keys from them.
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id just like to be able to flash radios separate and change the fugly splash screen.
for some reason unknown to me s-on just drives certain devs away.
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Right, but if you're unlocked then even s-off won't bring you back to factory state, unless they figure out a way to use the s-off to get you back to "s-on locked." Otherwise your phone will still show relocked, even if you return from s-off to s-on. And even then, HTC still knows you ran the HTC Unlock tool because you have to get the keys from them.
Edit--basically, s-off is cool, but s-off that requires HTC Unlock seems of dubious utility. It's totally cool, and I welcome the development, but I'm at a loss to figure out what S-off gives me other than flashing radios, which doesn't seem necessary.
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I think one of the key things about the HTC unlock tool is that you may have requested it, but they have no way of proving that you used it on your phone without having it physically in front of them. I think people worry too much about that tool.
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I think one of the key things about the HTC unlock tool is that you may have requested it, but they have no way of proving that you used it on your phone without having it physically in front of them. I think people worry too much about that tool.
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Yeah, I think so too. I don't really give a crap that I may have voided my warranty, it's a non-issue for me.
lets just be happy we may be getting both this and aosp soon. as i said, the more options the better.
tekhna said:
Right, but if you're unlocked then even s-off won't bring you back to factory state, unless they figure out a way to use the s-off to get you back to "s-on locked." Otherwise your phone will still show relocked, even if you return from s-off to s-on. And even then, HTC still knows you ran the HTC Unlock tool because you have to get the keys from them.
Edit--basically, s-off is cool, but s-off that requires HTC Unlock seems of dubious utility. It's totally cool, and I welcome the development, but I'm at a loss to figure out what S-off gives me other than flashing radios, which doesn't seem necessary.
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it gives you the option to change radios,spash screend,run a patched hboot(for eng commands) and run older RUUs.
if youre willing to htcdev unlock,then the warrany isnt an issue. with s-off you can get back to locked instead of relocked (ive done it on other devices)
you could always claim you never unlocked,and your rezound came with s-off
not to mention s-off means write to boot from recovery,so no more android info files,flastboot flashing,etc