i.e. not sending in my serial number to asus to void my warranty. I know it's the risk I take, yadda yadda. I'm no stranger to rootage. I'm just wary about this one. Thoughts? Possibilities?
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Unlocking bootloader is not root & vice versa....
anyway I've seen no way to bypass Asus yet to unlock your bootlader
I know they're separate I've already rooted it, but was wary about unlocking it to flash a custom rom is all.
Either balls up or don't. If you do, deal with the possible consequences. If not, keep your warranty.
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Even if you could unlock the bootloader without using their tool, it would still void your warranty. If you think that the only way to tell if you've unlocked is by it phoning home, then you're sorely mistaken.
If you screw with the bootloader and break your tablet by attempting to unlock it, you've broken your warranty regardless. If you then RMA your tablet and try to get it repaired, any technician worth their salt will be able to tell it was tampered with and will cancel your RMA anyways. Then to make it worse, they'll charge you to have it shipped back because it's not covered under warranty. Phoning home is just a step to keep that from happening. ASUS will not even bother opening an RMA unless you agree to pay them for out of warranty repairs, saving both you and them time and effort.
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Even if you could unlock the bootloader without using their tool, it would still void your warranty. If you think that the only way to tell if you've unlocked is by it phoning home, then you're sorely mistaken.
If you screw with the bootloader and break your tablet by attempting to unlock it, you've broken your warranty regardless. If you then RMA your tablet and try to get it repaired, any technician worth their salt will be able to tell it was tampered with and will cancel your RMA anyways. Then to make it worse, they'll charge you to have it shipped back because it's not covered under warranty. Phoning home is just a step to keep that from happening. ASUS will not even bother opening an RMA unless you agree to pay them for out of warranty repairs, saving both you and them time and effort.
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Don't make it sound as if Asus is lily white in this. They void your ENTIRE hardware warranty for unlocking the software. It's a "get out of jail free" card for them.
And then to add insult to injury it's not even a full unlock of the bootloader. NVFlash is STILL disabled.
Furthermore, given the track record of their RMA center, they may very well NOT have even the first clue that you've unlocked your bootloader. They don't seem very bright there.
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Don't make it sound as if Asus is lily white in this. They void your ENTIRE hardware warranty for unlocking the software. It's a "get out of jail free" card for them.
And then to add insult to injury it's not even a full unlock of the bootloader. NVFlash is STILL disab
Furthermore, given the track record of their RMA center, they may very well NOT have even the first clue that you've unlocked your bootloader. They don't seem very bright there.
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So do most manufacturers, even ones who's bootloader isn't locked. Replacing the factory firmware voids your warranty on almost every device. Yes, most don't actually call home, so a lot of repairs happen ANYWAYS regardless of the warranty status, but the point is the same. I only wanted to inform the OP that not phoning home doesn't change the voiding of the warranty.
NVFlash is a legitimate complaint, but has nothing to do with the question at hand: which is unlocking without voiding the warranty. Even if we had access to NVFlash, unlocking would still void your warranty. The only difference here is that it'd be easier to fix some bricks.
Lastly, I'm going to defend ASUS on this, because expecting them to handle hardware repairs on something you screwed with the bootloader and firmware on is a huge drain on RMA resources. If you return your tablet for a warranty repair, it's very easy for them to just send you a new/refurbished one off the shelf and fix the broken one on their own time. If you've flashed it and messed with the bootloader, it puts added strain on their repair teams to be able to restore bootloaders and firmwares to the factory defaults. Yes, it's not hard to flash the bootloader and relock it, but it's a 20-30 minute job they wouldn't otherwise have to do. Plus, if you're someone who overclocks and messes with driver settings to change how the hardware works, you could put added strain on hardware that a locked/unmodified tablet wouldn't have. You can't expect them to fix issues relating to overheating your tablet because you don't know what you're doing.
Guys I sincerely hope we are not going to start the warranty, boot unlocker, argument again. There are already 15 pages of it in one thread here
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I have seen about one hundred posts warning ominously about HTC's unlock voiding the warranty but it appears that no one has really given any thought to the legality of such an action.
This is not about whether rooting will void the warranty. That has always been true if the rooting was somehow non-reversible.
The concern voiced by many is that the unlock will trip a write-once type indicator in the hardware that will permanently watermark the phone as being unlocked. (such as the proverbial blown fuse.)
My analysis is:
HTC cannot push an OTA to every Evo3D unlocking the bootloader that will void warranties. Even if it were optional, the uninformed masses would, of course, accept the update without a second thought. (There is also no setup in the OTA updating system (to my knowledge) for giving warnings about voiding warranties or the like.)
I haven't looked into the details of what jurisdiction governs the warranty contracts on the Evo3D but I am sure there is some prohibition against sneaky ways of voiding the warranty by the manufacturer.
Many have thrown around the idea of a class action suit over the failure of HTC to (at this time) live up to the CEO's promise of unlocking the bootloaders. Such an class action would not likely succeed. However, if the manufacturer pushed an OTA update that voided all Evo 3D warranties, that would probably be a class action worth pursuing.
Further, I do not believe that an non-OTA unlock update that voided warranties would be allowed even if HTC only published the update on the HTC website with explicit warnings about voiding warranties if applied.
HTC would have a very hard time justifying why their own software update should void HTC's warranty on the software and hardware of HTC's own phone.
However, if the warranty contracts are controlled by some off the wall legal jurisdiction, I could be wrong.
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One other thing that just crossed my mind.
To have such a permanent watermarking function at hardware level, HTC would have had to have planned this from development.
The encrypted bootloaders were to be permanent until the policy was changed May 26 (or so).
For HTC to add a write once indicator at that time, they would have had to tear every phone apart and retool the manufacturing line. This seems unlikely.
The only other way they could do this is if the phone was designed with (at that time) unnecessary write once indicators just in case they were needed.
This would be possible but. . . . is it likely?
Any other thoughts?
No lol
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Okay, that's hilarious. Your pic is Chou flipping the customers off and you still trust HTC.
Man, you're one big ball of contradictions aren't you...
(please note, I am starting a flame war with you, I am only joking)
My personal opinion is that HTC has lost a little credibility but . . .
I don't think they are that stupid.
Them unlocking the Evo 3D won't void the warranty any more than them just doing a regular update for bugs. It's rooting that will void the warranty. While it is completely legal to root, the manufacturer does not have to honor their warranty if you do.
Is this real? If HTC unlocks their phone, it voids their warranty? Can we get an aptitude test for registration to this site?
If you are asking if it will void the warranty for XDA to unlock it, unlikely. Never been an issue in the past. I think rooting a device in the US has been deemed 100% legal too. I am not about to search it to find out.
3rd. HTC does little of their own warranty work. Meaning, most phones are covered by Sprint TEP/Assurion. When Sprint or Assurion sends them back you already have a new phone and they don't care who had it. The only time you ACTUALLY use your HTC warranty is if a manufacturer defect affects your phone within the first year and you don't have TEP. Then you send them your device and they will fix it. You get NO loaner phone in the process, so most people don't go this route.
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Them unlocking the Evo 3D won't void the warranty any more than them just doing a regular update for bugs. It's rooting that will void the warranty. While it is completely legal to root, the manufacturer does not have to honor their warranty if you do.
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This is not about whether rooting will void the warranty. That has always been true if the rooting was somehow non-reversible.
The concern voiced by many is that the unlock will trip a write-once type indicator in the hardware that will permanently watermark the phone as being unlocked. (such as the proverbial blown fuse.)
I will update my original post to address this misunderstanding.
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Is this real? If HTC unlocks their phone, it voids their warranty? Can we get an aptitude test for registration to this site?
If you are asking if it will void the warranty for XDA to unlock it, unlikely. Never been an issue in the past. I think rooting a device in the US has been deemed 100% legal too. I am not about to search it to find out.
3rd. HTC does little of their own warranty work. Meaning, most phones are covered by Sprint TEP/Assurion. When Sprint or Assurion sends them back you already have a new phone and they don't care who had it. The only time you ACTUALLY use your HTC warranty is if a manufacturer defect affects your phone within the first year and you don't have TEP. Then you send them your device and they will fix it. You get NO loaner phone in the process, so most people don't go this route.
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Did you read my original post? Did you look at the current poll results?
Please do before you basically ignore the point of the thread?
I was trying to quell fears. However, there are many who seem worried about this.
Also, TEP costs MONEY.
Warranty returns, such as when the USB port fails, do not. The concern is that if a USB port failed and you had applied the unlock, HTC would say that the warranty is void because you unlocked the phone using their update.
I do not think the OTA will actually unlock the phone as 95% of the people don't need it. Only a small portion of the people actually want to unlock the phone. I think the update will push the necessary internal files to the phone allowing people to run a tool that unlocks the phone. This tool will probably give a warning about voiding the warranty, and make you accept it before actually unlocking it. Then making the necessary changes to mark your phone as unlocked.
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Is this real? If HTC unlocks their phone, it voids their warranty? Can we get an aptitude test for registration to this site?
If you are asking if it will void the warranty for XDA to unlock it, unlikely. Never been an issue in the past. I think rooting a device in the US has been deemed 100% legal too. I am not about to search it to find out.
3rd. HTC does little of their own warranty work. Meaning, most phones are covered by Sprint TEP/Assurion. When Sprint or Assurion sends them back you already have a new phone and they don't care who had it. The only time you ACTUALLY use your HTC warranty is if a manufacturer defect affects your phone within the first year and you don't have TEP. Then you send them your device and they will fix it. You get NO loaner phone in the process, so most people don't go this route.
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there are theories flaoting around that HTC may try to "watermark" phones that take the unlock OTA so that it voids the manufacturers warranty.. yes to some of us it sounds crazy, but apparently it is very serious to some people.. and rooting is not illegal, but still does void the warranty.. thats why most devs have disclosures on the things they do that is custom or creates root.. you do this at your own risk, voids warranty, yada yada.. no hate to you sir, but this has been a concern for a while now..
i personally dont think that it would void the warranty, but then again who am i..
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This is not about whether rooting will void the warranty. That has always been true if the rooting was somehow non-reversible.
The concern voiced by many is that the unlock will trip a write-once type indicator in the hardware that will permanently watermark the phone as being unlocked. (such as the proverbial blown fuse.)
I will update my original post to address this misunderstanding.
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Ah, I see. Well, I suppose in that case, my answer to the poll would be that I trust them since it was publicly announced that they would unlock their bootloaders, effectively rendering any backlash from them about it voiding the warranty - a good case for a class action lawsuit, should it come up.
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Them unlocking the Evo 3D won't void the warranty any more than them just doing a regular update for bugs. It's rooting that will void the warranty. While it is completely legal to root, the manufacturer does not have to honor their warranty if you do.
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archos did this. your device would be watermarked and void your warranty.
how 'bout a 4rth option in the poll - i'd gladly give up my warranty for root.
as someone mentioned, seems it would be pretty crazy for HTC to give us an update,that would void the warranty, to their own phone they make. I see no logic in that whatsoever
I'm going to void the warranty by rooting anyway, don't care.
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archos did this. your device would be watermarked and void your warranty.
how 'bout a 4rth option in the poll - i'd gladly give up my warranty for root.
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Prior to HTC unlocking their future devices, I can understand that. After they push an OTA (if they do) then I can't see it voiding the warranty. They'd probably put out a bulletin of sorts to their repair centers and affiliates that allows for warranty repair of a phone that was "watermarked" as being unlocked.
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I'm going to void the warranty by rooting anyway, don't care.
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me too.. me too
oh and can i change my vote??? i really think HTC is the devil..
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I do not think the OTA will actually unlock the phone as 95% of the people don't need it. Only a small portion of the people actually want to unlock the phone. I think the update will push the necessary internal files to the phone allowing people to run a tool that unlocks the phone. This tool will probably give a warning about voiding the warranty, and make you accept it before actually unlocking it. Then making the necessary changes to mark your phone as unlocked.
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I understand your theory, but again, I don't think that many jurisdictions would allow them to have such a voiding.
This is not the same as voiding the warranty by using OEM overclocking software. (I think that some board/CPU manufacturers provide software with the understanding that if you burn it out by O/Cing, the warranty will not cover it)
This is a unlock of encryption that would really just take us back to an unrooted Evo 4G.
I could be wrong but I don't really think that the CEO's promise even implied S-OFF.
I think that the only thing he promised was that the bootloader would no longer use encrypted signatures.
Thus, we would have an S-ON setup just like on the Evo 4G fresh out of the box.
Of course, with the rooting method by the brilliant devs in TEAMWIN, we could then get S-OFF by loading the ENG bootloader (I think).
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archos did this. your device would be watermarked and void your warranty.
how 'bout a 4rth option in the poll - i'd gladly give up my warranty for root.
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What do you mean Archos did this?
They pushed an OTA update that voided warranties by permanently watermarking phones as having been updated?
ftc_osiris said:
I understand your theory, but again, I don't think that many jurisdictions would allow them to have such a voiding.
This is not the same as voiding the warranty by using OEM overclocking software. (I think that some board/CPU manufacturers provide software with the understanding that if you burn it out by O/Cing, the warranty will not cover it)
This is a unlock of encryption that would really just take us back to an unrooted Evo 4G.
I could be wrong but I don't really think that the CEO's promise even implied S-OFF.
I think that the only thing he promised was that the bootloader would no longer use encrypted signatures.
Thus, we would have an S-ON setup just like on the Evo 4G fresh out of the box.
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The nexus S ships with a locked bootloader. You have to manually run a command to unlock it, and it tells you during the process that it voids your warranty. I would assume that will be the case for this update, as the vast majority of people do not require the bootloader to be unlocked.
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The nexus S ships with a locked bootloader. You have to manually run a command to unlock it, and it tells you during the process that it voids your warranty. I would assume that will be the case for this update, as the vast majority of people do not require the bootloader to be unlocked.
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Does it permanently watermark the phone or can the unlocking (and voiding) be reversed?
Okay there is some crazy talk going on in here guys.
HTC pushing an update that unlocks your phone and in turn voids your warranty? Come on get real fellas.
The talk about the update voiding your warranty isn't the update itself doing the void BUT the unlock voiding your warranty. They wont send an OTA to sit there for everyone and people would DL the OTA and their phone would be unlocked just like that. The OTA that would be sent out would ALLOW you to unlock your phone on your own, NOT unlock it for you.
The thought is that HTC will do something like Moto is where when the USER goes into the bootloader and chooses to unlock their device it will mark the phone as voiding its warranty. ONLY then will the phones warranty be voided, NOT for just taking the OTA that enables the function.
Now relocking and being able to have your phone serviced under warranty is all speculation as to if thats possible and if its not then itd be up to the devs to create a workaround for it. Not sure how the Moto devs have handeled this part personally though.
In short the Unlocking and the OTA will be 2 seperate tasks. You take the OTA update, then you have the ability to unlock your phone if you want. If you dont want to unlock then you still have warranty. Again accepting the OTA they push out wont automatically unlock all the phones, itll just give you the ability to do it on your own after.
So I have a Question. I unlocked my bootloader following the HTCdev.com Website and when doing so there was a warning saying that in Unlocking it I MAY void my warranty. I have followed Xboarders instructions to completly Relock the bootloader and boot completly back to stock. If anything goes wrong with my phone via Warranty issues(Such as the screen stops working or a button stops working and there is no Physical damage) will t-mobile warranty the phone without charging me the crazy restocking fee. Has anyone done this before on a different phone. I know on my older galaxy S phone I could but there wasnt the bootloader issue. Thanks for any advice.
Pretty sure that HTC/T-Mo won't charge you because its a hardware fail that could've happened regardless if you unlocked your bootloader
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Do you know the best way to confirm this?
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Do you know the best way to confirm this?
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Call them.
these companies work together. If htc knows that someone voided their warranty through the htc dev method, t-mo and asurion prolly know it as well. It doesnt matter if you call them saying "i lost my phone", "someone stole it", "it flew up to the moon", etc - they already know its warranty no longer exist... simple
This isn't directed only at the OP so please don't take offense, but this question has come up so many times, and no one seems to actually be using their brain to come up with a real answer. Since my brain apparently still functions, let me set this straight.
First of all, warranty and insurance are different things. If you pay for the insurance through T-Mobile (which is through Assurion) then it shouldn't matter whether you void your warranty. You would still be covered either way. That's why you pay extra for it.
Second, HTC states that you MAY void your warranty. Which means the warranty still exists, but that if you have a problem with your phone and send it in for warranty repair or replacement and they feel that your issue was caused by unlocking the bootloader and doing something stupid (like bricking it by trying to flash an incompatible radio or something) then they can choose to not honor the warranty.
You guys really need to stop worrying so much.
Also of note, there is currently no way to get back to 100% stock after unlocking the bootloader. You can relock it, but it will say 'relocked' instead of 'locked' indicating that you messed with it. Plus I assume HTC keeps a record of the unique identifier codes that were submitted for an unlock code.
Hopefully this clears things up. You're welcome.
^^^^^^^^^^What he said.
MAY is the operative word.
Hi,
I'm just wondering what the warranty doesn't cover when the bootloader is unlocked. On the HTC-Dev website it states:
'It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty'
Does this mean that normal faults like hardware problem (e.g. speaker issue) will still be under warranty, but anything that involves flashing (e.g. bricked phone) wont be?
Thanks,
Louis
Yeah I wonder that to. Its not like we can restore it so that is doesn't leave traces. That makes me think twice sending the phone for warranty if it isn't needed.
HTC knows the you unlocked.
lhayati said:
Hi,
I'm just wondering what the warranty doesn't cover when the bootloader is unlocked. On the HTC-Dev website it states:
'It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty'
Does this mean that normal faults like hardware problem (e.g. speaker issue) will still be under warranty, but anything that involves flashing (e.g. bricked phone) wont be?
Thanks,
Louis
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I believe that hardware faults are still covered by the warranty, unless the hardware issue is a direct result of software/firmware changes you made. Heck, I bricked my phone yesterday (the type of brick you're supposed to do to get hboot 1.5 downgraded, but I did it on accident...) and I brought it to a Sprint store. I talked with the repair guy before he took a look at the damage, I told him I was s-off, eng bootloader, and I just made sure I didn't directly say it was my fault the phone bricked (flashed an experimental ICS ROM ) and he said he'd repair it for me no problem.
He didn't end up repairing it in the end, because he "needed some tools" he didn't currently have at the repair center with him (I think he just didn't want to work so close to closing time lol), but the point is that my phone was going to get fixed even though I told the repair man that I'm s-off...I could hardly believe it myself
Not sure if HTC is as understanding as sprint is about such things, but since I have total equipment protection, I don't really have to worry about HTC's warranty much.
EDIT: just noticed neither of you are on CDMA 3D's, sorry. Just sharing my experiences with getting my phone repaired. Definitely be careful when dealing with HTC, I feel like they'd be more unforgiving than a sprint store would be about repairing s-off/HTC unlocked phones...
I'm afraid they could make a problem of you problem even though its a non hardware issue.
I only have an tiny dust under the screen, can almost not see it. At store they wanted send it for warranty to HTC but I said no, I don't want it so I taked it back with me.
And now I'm looking to sell it and then maybe buy an new one.
I thought I bricked my day-old EVO 4G LTE, so I went to the store to switch it out. To my dismay, they found out I was rooted, unlocked, and flagged my account. They told me I would not be able to return it, or swap it. They gave me a number for HTC, which I called in-store. A really nice guy walked me through some stuff and told me unfortunately unlocking voids HTC's warranty but I was free to try to send it in and they would fix it, at-cost.
I was under the impression rooting and unlocking were legal...no?
The reason that rooting and unlocking voids warranty is because doing so gives you access to abilities that were not intended for the average user. You get access to pretty much everything, hardware and all. They place boundaries essentially to limit intentional or unintentional damage, to protect it and you.
There are also security problems that you risk doing so (coming from the book ). If something were to go wrong while not rooted and not locked (all stock) they could easily differentiate from what is your fault and is a manufacturers fault. In all they say its to protect the average user. Always try to return to stock before returning it, as a rule of thumb.
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Always try to return to stock before returning it, as a rule of thumb.
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This. Do some reading, it's definitely very possible to return your phone to factory conditions so they never knew you unlocked the boot loader in the first place.
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This. Do some reading, it's definitely very possible to return your phone to factory conditions so they never knew you unlocked the boot loader in the first place.
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I agree with that..... I also bought a HTC Pico that was "UNLOCKED" from ... Best Buy and HTC said that they would honor the warranty fully.
So if a whole-seller unlocked the PDA / phone it seems to be alright with HTC, but if a developer does a root / unlock to IMPROVE a flawed or almost worthless app or Bloatware situation that that is a NO NO to the manufactures?
That seems to be just a way to VOID / not pay for or exchange a some what POJ they couldn't upgrade or design correctly themselves.
That voiding a warranty for fixing a problem is just an "Enron" around the real problem.
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I was under the impression rooting and unlocking were legal...no?
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"legal" and "warranty" are different things...for example, iOS jailbreak is legal in USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking#Legal_status) but it voids warranty (http://www.cultofmac.com/52463/apples-official-response-to-dmca-jailbreak-exemption-it-voids-your-warranty/52463/)
So I was recently thinking about how much I wanted to root my phone, but was afraid of losing my warranty. Which got me thinking about the fact that HTC seems to offer a warranty for the One. Would this mean I would be able to ship my phone for a replacement to HTC if something went wrong and they wouldn't care if I unlocked the bootloader? Anybody have any experience in this department?
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So I was recently thinking about how much I wanted to root my phone, but was afraid of losing my warranty. Which got me thinking about the fact that HTC seems to offer a warranty for the One. Would this mean I would be able to ship my phone for a replacement to HTC if something went wrong and they wouldn't care if I unlocked the bootloader? Anybody have any experience in this department?
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Most people who send their phones in to HTC for warranty replacement of hardware don't have any issues. They usually fix the hardware and send it back with no questions asked. If it is software related you may run into issues. Now there is a chance they will not replace your hardware and void your warranty for unlocked bootloader but from what I have read from users that have done this with previous devices they normally replace and ship.
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So I was recently thinking about how much I wanted to root my phone, but was afraid of losing my warranty. Which got me thinking about the fact that HTC seems to offer a warranty for the One. Would this mean I would be able to ship my phone for a replacement to HTC if something went wrong and they wouldn't care if I unlocked the bootloader? Anybody have any experience in this department?
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ROOTING DOES NOT VOID WARRANTY
If you BRICK your device due to something you installed, HTC will probably not cover it, if your screen goes bad, or wifi quits working, or anything else NOT caused by dropping it or getting it wet, AT&T or HTC will cover you.
AT&T's warranty department is the reason I buy phones from them rather than a manufacturer directly.
Something goes wrong, I call At&T, they ship me a new device and a mailing label to send them back my broken one. Takes a couple of days. HTC fixes your device and it can take a couple of weeks.
again ROOTING a phone is NOT a valid reason to deny a warranty claim.
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ROOTING DOES NOT VOID WARRANTY
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again ROOTING a phone is NOT a valid reason to deny a warranty claim.
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Rooting was never mentioned here. Unlocking your bootloader is different, and yes, it could allow them to deny you the warranty claim.
In the end, just because they can doesn't imply that they will deny you.
Almost all instances I've heard of including warranty replacement ended happily for the user. I would argue that even though HTC's replacement process takes a longer time, they're more likely to replace the phone without question.
AT&T = Faster replacements
HTC = Higher success rate if you have really hacked up the device
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Rooting was never mentioned here. Unlocking your bootloader is different, and yes, it could allow them to deny you the warranty claim.
In the end, just because they can doesn't imply that they will deny you.
Almost all instances I've heard of including warranty replacement ended happily for the user. I would argue that even though HTC's replacement process takes a longer time, they're more likely to replace the phone without question.
AT&T = Faster replacements
HTC = Higher success rate if you have really hacked up the device
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The OP mentioned rooting in his first sentence.
I wanted it out there that rooting in itself doesn't void a warranty.
Because we can root by unlocking our bootloaders doesn't mean that an exploit won't be found that roots without doing so.
We've said the same thing now we're just arguing semantics.
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The OP mentioned rooting in his first sentence.
I wanted it out there that rooting in itself doesn't void a warranty.
Because we can root by unlocking our bootloaders doesn't mean that an exploit won't be found that roots without doing so.
We've said the same thing now we're just arguing semantics.
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Doh, so true. Completely missed that in the first sentence too, thanks for pointing it out. :highfive:
Thanks a lot for clearing all that up. I apologize for the initial confusion with my first sentence, as you guys pointed out, it's the bootloader unlock that actually voids the warranty. My fears have been quelled and I'm very excited to take full control of this notification light.