A little overview on Custom Stable Roms vs Stock 2.1 - Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini

Helo,
recnetly i have checked few roms and used for some time with stock kernel. I have tried Ginger DX, minicm7 v21. And here what conclution i came to:
Best rom is....stock one 2.1, no matter what features other roms do have still 2.1 is the best.
Why ? here is a lilttle overview what i think minicm7 and most of custom roms have better essential stuff than stock.
Advantages:
New android market
Battery life
New android version 2.3x
Flash Support
Better sound quality on video camera
Disadvantages:
Bad performance
roaming doesnt work properly (in some countries it connects to network in some it does not)
native thetering doesnt work
user interface just looks awful compared to original stock
Photo camera application (picture quality is just bad compared to stock)
Opera browser doesnt work stable
So i just pointed the things whom i think are really essential for a good rom.
Now a little notice about performance...
Dont be fools, do not believe that 2.3 has better performance than Stock.
IT DOES NOT
Only Quadrant scores are higher, but in practise performance is worse!
with same launcher pro and even less icons and widgets on minicm7 the performance is way worse than stock rom. For example if i want to give a call and open contacts i have to wait for a second at least to load contacts application, same with messages unless i kill all the tasks. I dont have this with stock rom. Another notice, if i use lets say Opera browser or Gameboid emulator and then go back to dekstop, widgets and icons always has to be re-drew per new. This doesnt happen on stock. Overal even with killed apps games on 2.3 are running worse then on stock 2.1 (Where is my water? Angry Birds, Gameboid, Snesoid).
So is it really worth to upgrade? I think no it is not worth to upgrade. Unless you die-hard need Flash Support and Video Camera sound. Then yes. For the rest, no i dont think so.

newestuser said:
Bad performance
roaming doesnt work properly (in some countries it connects to network in some it does not)
native thetering doesnt work
user interface just looks awful compared to original stock
Photo camera application (picture quality is just bad compared to stock)
Opera browser doesnt work stable
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bad performance - sorry but i do tweaks so mine is better than stock
roaming - dont need it
tethering - is there a native tether with stock?
awful interface - maybe but stock is well stock cant be changed
opera browser - mines doing great

I use MiniCM7 Pro V21 (By god Paul) on my phone and I'm just happy, stock user interface is so ugly compared to MiniCM7.
Only think I dont like is the Camera freezes sometimes while recording a video.

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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe....... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion....... I watched C-beams glitter in the darkness at Tannhäuser Gate....... All those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain...... Time to die......
....Time to back to Stock 2.1......
Sorry, it's only a joke, all opinions are wellcome and very respectables but, after I read your post, this scene of Blade Runner return to my memory.
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I think Stock is best rom... No bugs + good performance(i dont think in games )
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Maybe, but on stock rom I can't connect via adhoc connection. I share internet connectio via notebook. And on stock rom it is imposible to connect on that type of wifi connection.
Also, I need ultra brightness, what is also weak point for stock rom.
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Yeah stock dont have usb and wifi tethering but in market u can find aps like EastTether or WifiTether.
And stock have best launcher for this device but I think this launhcer needs modification.I dont like this fact Only 1 widget at screen and no icons at screen.
Only corners
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I respect your opinion but I don't agree. Stock from is full of touch bugs, lacks dual touch, native tethering( works now with latest custom gb and ics nAa roms) . Also, we cannot remove some of the bloatware as it is attached to some .apk bundle and we could end in boot loop or even constant force close messages. I forgot to mention that /system has 20 mb only free so laggs are guaranteed... no apps to fat32 option. I tried many times to undervolt my stock roms with apps and .ko files etc. but didn't make it... stock battery life sucks.... gaming experience is cr4p.... I can't remember anything else cause I am on custom built roms many months now.... every opinion is well accepted.
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Custom > Stock.
Only if you understand well how the phone works and how to set the phone's settings and features to it's minimum or maximum performance. And also, if you managed to tweak the phone to it's best performance.
Else, Stock is the best and only option for you.
Also @ OP, those disadvantages you pointed out, on the latest stable custom ROMS out there, all of it works fine now. Except ICS, still has work to be done with that version.
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Stock is nice but i think the custom rom's have more advantages that cover its disadvantages.
As for me the only disadvantage in custom rom's would be the hopeless battery life.

Mashun99 said:
Stock is nice but i think the custom rom's have more advantages that cover its disadvantages.
As for me the only disadvantage in custom rom's would be the hopeless battery life.
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not really i believe you can use governors in custom roms but not in stock rom. thats why i have custom rom so i can use governors and apps to sd

Prefer custom
I've been using custom Roms for a very long time, now.
I must say that, even though custom roms have some bugs, stock rom has some bugs also. And it lacks some features, which I consider essential.
The most important is the ability of saving apps in SD card. I know (and I've used it) there's link2SD, but I needed to root my device as well. Link2SD was very unstable.
Stock lacks flash and some apps won't run under 2.1.
Battery life? The same.
Stock apps? Great looks, I'll give them that. But some are very basic.
I needed to install some apps that come with custom roms. I prefer to install custom rom.
The main app, to me, is phone/contacts. Stock app is lame.
Will stick to cm7-2.2.0, for now.

Sorry to disagree in every point. I have a x10 mini (not pro).
I couldn't find a single advantage on the stock rom over the custom miniCM7 (2.2.1).
The stock 2.1 rom feels like a slower CPU and GPU, it's sluggish and lags to the touch. I think the interface is OK, with the corner shortcuts and the bigger icons. It was well designed, but I always end up unintentionally arrainging icons in the menus and the corner shortcuts because of the lag. Applications are painfully slow, including the dialer. As a windows computer: when I fresh install (factory reset) the mini, it's fairly responsive, but as soon as I install half a dozen apps it gets sluggish again.
Bad performance?
-no, much better responsiveness and performance with miniCM7 even with lots of apps installed.
roaming doesnt work properly (in some countries it connects to network in some it does not)
-This one I can't tell
native thetering doesnt work
-stock has none.
user interface just looks awful compared to original stock
-matter of taste maybe. I like the new UI better all the way.
Photo camera application (picture quality is just bad compared to stock)
-Maybe in older versions? this one works better, and now I can have instagram.
Opera browser doesnt work stable
-It works fine here.
I am a little dazzled because, in my x10 mini, things are about opposite. Everything is just smoother with the new rom, and the old rom fails me exactly in the way the new rom fails to you: it's unresponsive, slow, annoying, glitchy. Maybe it's just personal taste, or something is different between our phones.

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[Q] Which custom ROM is the best?

Hi everyone,
I must point out that I am pretty new to the whole custom ROM thing, I still have the stock ROM and everything on my xperia x10,
so my question is which ROM gives the best performance (ie less lag, good battery life, not many bugs, etc)? and can you give me simple instructions on how to install it because I don't want to screw something up and brick my phone, please?
Also when having a custom ROM installed, are you able to implement (install) patches given out by sony ericsson or you just follow the forum and wait for the developer of the ROM to make a patch, and if there's a patch from the developer how do you install it? (I presume you can't install the patches from sony ericsson, I'm just asking). And how often does the developer release the patches?
And do I have to delete everything with a factory reset from my phone before I do ANYTHING? at which step should it be done? can I backup everything using backup and restore program that's already aboard the x10 and restore it later, or the program will disappear when I install a custom ROM? if it wont, will it bring back my sms and mms effectively, and applications too?
Try this, Wolfbreak's CM 6.1.3 V54(fully working, very stable froyo 2.2 rom with CyanogenMod settings and themes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028493
I'm definitely a fan of trips miui rom. He also just came out with a miui gingerbread rom, it's a bit unstable at this point though.
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use wolfbreak's latest rom. it's very stable with lots of things you can tweak and have fun with!
agentJBM said:
Try this, Wolfbreak's CM 6.1.3 V54(fully working, very stable froyo 2.2 rom with CyanogenMod settings and themes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028493
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+1 for wolfbreak's
Hi there, as you can see from my post count, I'm pretty new to this as well. I've only tried wolfbreak so far but am amazed at it's stability. As far as I've seen you will lose SMS etc however lots of things can be saved to the cloud, so first thing I'd do is make sure all contacts are marked as Google sync
I initially found the flashing to be problematic, but that was mostly because I was an idiot and failed to notice that the flashing software also adds functions such root access and xrecovery when the phone is NOT in flash mode. Since. Then I've been able to upgrade to the latest version (06) without even using a computer. Simply downloading the file onto my phone, moving it with the included file manager and rebooting to the recovery menu
I know have a faster more responsive phone with lots of added features such as Flash, Voice Search and loads more customization options. IMHO well worth the twenty minutes or so it will initially take
Make a note of your favourite apps as well, as the market only remembers paid for apps not your free ones, but for me the change over was pretty seamless and after only a day and a half with it am more than happy. So much stuff is held within the cloud that setting back up isn't the mega ballache it seems before doing it
Wolfbreak's ROM is the most 'fun' to use, the most tweaks avaliable
TripnMIUI's ROM is one you need if you just want your phone to work. Also, it has an iphone-like look (IMO I hate it, but some people like it)
Jereplea's Gingerbread mod is for those who want to be active in making the ROM better and test Gingerbread and custom kernels. It's not really that stable, but it's getting better by the day and it's the most updated ROM.
IMO those are the 3 big ROMS, there are smaller ones and you're free to check them out, they're pretty good too, but those are just my opinions on the top 3 ROMS.
cockbeard said:
Hi there, as you can see from my post count, I'm pretty new to this as well. I've only tried wolfbreak so far but am amazed at it's stability. As far as I've seen you will lose SMS etc however lots of things can be saved to the cloud, so first thing I'd do is make sure all contacts are marked as Google sync
I initially found the flashing to be problematic, but that was mostly because I was an idiot and failed to notice that the flashing software also adds functions such root access and xrecovery when the phone is NOT in flash mode. Since. Then I've been able to upgrade to the latest version (06) without even using a computer. Simply downloading the file onto my phone, moving it with the included file manager and rebooting to the recovery menu
I know have a faster more responsive phone with lots of added features such as Flash, Voice Search and loads more customization options. IMHO well worth the twenty minutes or so it will initially take
Make a note of your favourite apps as well, as the market only remembers paid for apps not your free ones, but for me the change over was pretty seamless and after only a day and a half with it am more than happy. So much stuff is held within the cloud that setting back up isn't the mega ballache it seems before doing it
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you can keep your sms, call logs, contacts by using mybackup root
Thank-you, that certainly makes me more tempted to try the other flavours out there, as I said I'm new to Android fiddling, appreciate the advice
Awesome ROM i'm using right now is Freex10 Beta 4 (Android 2.2), with the video recorder fixed. The ROM is stable and excellent. Runs really fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900441
Cyanogen 6.1.3 (gingerbread) by rendeiro2005
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947613
Cyanogen 6.1.3 (gingerbread) by rendeiro2005 with bitsnacker theme(go3easy)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1015765
If you want a really good looking ROM, try the Bitsnacker 2.1 rom. It is basically the stock rom with the bitsnacker blue glow theme.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1005636
If you mean THEMES, check the bitsnacker theme out for the x10 which works on android 2.1 stock and 2.2 Free X10 Beta 4 (for Freex10 ignore first post, check the second half way down the screen)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935187
Finding the links took me ages, i got them all mixed up
If you like, it plz thank
the answer will always be it depends on what you want from a device and its really your opinion and your opinion alone thatll lewt you decide
another +1 for tripnmiui's rom, pretty well featured
for me TripNMiui is always the best
TripNMiui with custum kernel
I'd say Wolfbreak's so far...
It runs flawlessly...
I've been testing many custom ROMs for a while, and up to now, the ones I liked the most are TripNMiUI's and Wolfbreak's ones. It's hard even to pick up one of them... TripNMiUI's has a great visual and is very clean. Wolfbreak's, in the other hand, works flawlessly and very stable, and I love that ARC's style.
Actually, I'm using Wolfbreak's now.
cockbeard said:
Hi there, as you can see from my post count, I'm pretty new to this as well. I've only tried wolfbreak so far but am amazed at it's stability. As far as I've seen you will lose SMS etc however lots of things can be saved to the cloud, so first thing I'd do is make sure all contacts are marked as Google sync
I initially found the flashing to be problematic, but that was mostly because I was an idiot and failed to notice that the flashing software also adds functions such root access and xrecovery when the phone is NOT in flash mode. Since. Then I've been able to upgrade to the latest version (06) without even using a computer. Simply downloading the file onto my phone, moving it with the included file manager and rebooting to the recovery menu
I know have a faster more responsive phone with lots of added features such as Flash, Voice Search and loads more customization options. IMHO well worth the twenty minutes or so it will initially take
Make a note of your favourite apps as well, as the market only remembers paid for apps not your free ones, but for me the change over was pretty seamless and after only a day and a half with it am more than happy. So much stuff is held within the cloud that setting back up isn't the mega ballache it seems before doing it
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Or use the app Titanium Backup to restore all apps and data when switching. Works like a charm for me.

[Q] Best MIUI ROM?

Man, I remember the days before the unlocked bootloader, when one of the best MIUI ROMs was Trip's. Poor dude got banned and all. Anyways, so now, there are like ten different MIUI ROMs on XDA. My question is, which is the best one? I'm talking in terms of stability. I don't play games, I just want a ROM where every default app works. A stable, fast ROM that isn't meant for gaming, but for things like video viewing, messaging and MSN and Skype.
My bootloader is unlocked, so I'm taking suggestions on MIUI ROMs that require an unlocked bootloader (even though most of them do anyway).
Thanks.
I'm currently using this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304752
Try it
Trip is at Modaco btw, but his development for x10 is not anymore what was before cause he switched on Sensation.
I feel all the MIUI roms are similar with the same bugs still there. so, you can try anyone of them which is available on XDA. I am using TripnRaver Beta and it is available in modaco forums. Almost everything is working fine including screen on and off animation! So give atry!
Yeah, but this is fully working GB MIUI rom.
Except there is no GTalk on it, but I fixed that too
I'm using Prime Unleashed, Installed it about three days ago, so far I'm liking it, it has working wifi and usb hotspot, barcode scanner, no data bug, the only thing that doesn't work is the built-in screenshot app (you can use any other from the market) and the theme preview app doesn't show a preview of all your themes but you can still use themes... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295089
A1exander's M1U1 1.10.21 V8. The first MIUI I used and no issues yet. The only thing I miss in MIUI is the menu and timescape.
I am using Oodie's Miui,the only thing which hurts is, it consumes RAM very fast becomes laggy after some hours,but just reboot once n all will be fine again!
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[Q] Rooting vs Rooting + ROM

OK so a year later and frustration with Moto update waits, I'm considering rooting this phone. My main reason for doing so is mainly to freeze or remove Blur and carrier (Bell) bloatware, but I have some questions about which way to go with this:
1. Rooting but not flashing a custom ROM. Instead, freeze the bloat using TiBU. This would be the far simpler method I think. I would then install a custom launcher (I currently prefer Launcher 7) and freeze the Blur home launcher so it doesn't run behind Launcher 7. My concern about this method is that I've read occasional reports by people that some of the "frozen" Blur system apps actually continued to work...
2. Flashing CM7. This is my 2nd choice. I'm a pretty lazy guy, and I don't mind rooting with how easy it is to do these days, but the extra work flashing custom ROMS isn't appealing to me. If I am forced to go this route, (a)What's the best way to freeze or remove the launcher that comes with CM7 and replace with one of my choosing so that two launchers are not running at the same time? (b)Does CM7 come with all the Motoblur and Carrier stuff removed?
I would go with the CM7 route. it is a little more to do but not by much and the payoff will be much greater. once you have it though as far as the launcher goes just install the one you want and use titanium back up to uninstall ADW (the launcher that comes with most CM7 builds). And use CM7 is a non BLUR ROM so blur is fully non existant on it. and all the other bloat ware is gone as well. You can go even further and use the nuetrino ROM witch is reall barebones and you can add on the stuff you need but i would suggest grabbing the CM7 RC1 nightly and running with that. Any question on how to do any of this just read the noob guide over and it is a breeze and you will even seen how easy it is to do after that and find yourself testing out many diffrent roms.
thanks, I only have 2 questions that will make or break CM7 for me -
has a good stable solution been found for the poor camera quality I've seen reported with CM7?
How well does CM7 play with GPS and the Motorola Cardock? I use those a LOT
I hae had no issues with camera quality on my CM7 and as far as the GPS car dock not sure how it will effect it. i can say that GPS over all is also not a issue for me. i dont have the car dock but i do use GPS navigation most of the day every day and have no issues.
omnius1 said:
thanks, I only have 2 questions that will make or break CM7 for me -
has a good stable solution been found for the poor camera quality I've seen reported with CM7?
How well does CM7 play with GPS and the Motorola Cardock? I use those a LOT
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Have you tried the miui camera app? I notice better quality with that camera app on cm7 than the stock cm7 camera app.
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I have not tried that one I have seen that it is really nice and has many more options than the stock cm7 just never worried to much about it
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Stock ROM faster than custom?

My friend bought xperia mini with stock ROM version 2.3.4, and i have xperia Live With Walkman.
with custom ROM CM7.2 FreeXperiaProject 150 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226715
and with custom rage kernel 2.9 for FXP. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24553704&postcount=75
So how the hell does she get smooth playing flash video from this TV site: http://www.navidiku.rs/tv-uzivo/tv-pink
While i have to overclock my phone to 1800Mhz to make it bearlly smooth...HOW is that possible???
I checked she had flash player 10.3.186.3 and i downloaded and installed that one but its the same thing...:/ i had Flash 11 before.
I can play Youtube video 360p smooth and around 1400Mhz 480p smooth. And phone is overall very snappy and fast, i mean i can play N64 games smooth, like Extreme G 2 for example...
So why is mine phone choppy while her is running smooth on stock 1000Mhz...?
1400...1800MHz are you serious.... :what:
You should not overclock your phone to such high frequency... It will burn down your CPU...
Echelonex said:
So why is mine phone choppy while her is running smooth on stock 1000Mhz...?
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Could be a number of things, but without knowing every app on your Phone, additional tweaks you've made/not made etc it's hard to say.
XperienceD said:
Could be a number of things, but without knowing every app on your Phone, additional tweaks you've made/not made etc it's hard to say.
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I did not do any adittional tweaks, also, only apps that are running in the background are Settings and Lg keyboard, because i kill all the running apps when i reboot my phone to free all the RAM.
Also, as far as i know, you can overclock your phone as long as it doesn't overheat... But still, that's why i want to make it go smooth, i want to make overclocking less needed...
Looking at the kernel thread it appears to be quite old, try using the CM7 Kernel instead, make some tweaks and see how that goes.
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I did not do any adittional tweaks, also, only apps that are running in the background are Settings and Lg keyboard, because i kill all the running apps when i reboot my phone to free all the RAM.
Also, as far as i know, you can overclock your phone as long as it doesn't overheat... But still, that's why i want to make it go smooth, i want to make overclocking less needed...
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Just to be clear, killing some apps in ram manually is not, efficient; it may really affect the performance (many topics/debates already out there). Try testing it with uninstalled apps (clean rom with minimal needed apps). And I agree many other factors may still affect it(scripts, tweaks, etc).
K thx. I will try out some other ROMs and kernels...hope to find something similar to CyanogenMod...I cant use kernel provided with ROM because phone is then loaded with bugs (no second speaker, camera freezing, touchscreen problems...etc) because fix for these only works on Rage kernel.

Any actually good ICS rom?

Hello there
I'm trying to find an actually good ICS rom for the Sola but im afraid i can't find anything.
The only good i tried so far is FXP but it still has bugs like Notification Led, Soft Buttons backlight, Illumination bar, FM Radio. Except from these and maybe the LCD backlight levels, it's pretty good actually. Very fast and can actually be used daily even with apps running.
On official .54 stock ICS even with ALL bloatware removed, i cant seem to use it daily if i don't restart it at least every 20 hours and if i use more than 2-3 apps and with active threads on background limit more than 2.. It's pretty bad. Even now that i don't really have any apps except EXDialer, Google Talk and Nova launcher, its performance is pathetic. Calls that take ages to answer, sometimes i cant even type a sms message due to lag and well, calling is laggy as hell too. That's with WhatsAPP frozen in my system.. I only unfreeze occasionaly and just for a few minutes to get any messages. Otherwise it makes you wanna break the phone on the wall.
Performance was only good (not just good, it was really great) with FXP and Gingerbread. Maybe before .54 it was better but i don't really remember.
Any ideas?
Thanks friends.
try eXperiance. It's what I use on my sola since January. It has (optional) memory tweaks and a very mild overclock, and the former tweak is rather noticeable over stock ICS.
And yeah, the 2.1 has no bugs at all afaik. All fast, all smooth. Longish boot times, but not that relevant.

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