Hate to be a noob....but what are the preferred methods? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

I just came to AT&T from an Epic 4G Touch on Sprint....
What methods are you guys using for stock/custom recovery? I see a lot of options, but a few are foreign to me and I don't know what the best is (as far as ease and avoiding custom binary flashes).
On my E4GT I would just flash everything I needed through Odin for the most part, and they came with the yellow triangle remover to fix the custom binary....
also can you use custom recovery with ICS roms? It didn't work well on the E4GT.
Trying to flash AOKP if that helps.

On the i777, you should pretty much only use Odin for your initial rooting process. After that, you should use Mobile Odin to install a kernel that comes with ClockWorkMod Recovery, such as Siyah or one of Entropy's kernels.

Seriously?
Check the stickies, everything there is preferred.
No problems with custom recoveries.

Following this will help you get CWM, which is a custom recovery. The basic steps in it are root, install Mobile Odin, use Mobile Odin to flash a custom kernel which includes CWM, then flash whatever ROM you want using CWM. All ROMs here, including ICS ones like AOKP, are CWM-flashable; as LilChris said, no problems using custom recovery.

LiLChris06 said:
Seriously?
Check the stickies, everything there is preferred.
No problems with custom recoveries.
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I understand it is stickied but I am not good at sorting through everything and figuring it out when there is so much info and I'm behind the game. I had an my Epic Touch at launch so I was on top of everything. When I'm not on top of all my info I like to DISCUSS it to make sure I'm not being stupid. I've spent many hours fixing phones because I just went and did what I wanted. Already I've learned Mobile Odin is preferred when I NEVER used it with my Touch.....if this bothers you than just ignore the thread.
Anyway, why is Mobile Odin preferred for this phone? I knew a lot of people used it on the Touch but a lot preferred sticking it into the PC and playing it safer.

gpgorbosjr said:
Anyway, why is Mobile Odin preferred for this phone? I knew a lot of people used it on the Touch but a lot preferred sticking it into the PC and playing it safer.
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The phrase "sticking it into the PC and playing it safer" is a non-sequitur. Odin and Heimdall are the main tools available to flash firmware onto the I777 from a pc. They are also the most risky tools available, especially Odin.
On the I777, flashing a custom kernel using Odin or Heimdall from a pc will increment the flash counter and cause the dreaded yellow triangle splash screen on boot up. Mobile Odin, on the other hand, in the words of the developer, "cowardly refuses to flash bootloaders or param.lfs" and using Mobile Odin to flash a custom kernel does not increment the flash counter. In addition, using Mobile Odin is easier than using terminal on the phone, or adb from a pc.

gpgorbosjr said:
I understand it is stickied but I am not good at sorting through everything and figuring it out when there is so much info and I'm behind the game. I had an my Epic Touch at launch so I was on top of everything. When I'm not on top of all my info I like to DISCUSS it to make sure I'm not being stupid. I've spent many hours fixing phones because I just went and did what I wanted. Already I've learned Mobile Odin is preferred when I NEVER used it with my Touch.....if this bothers you than just ignore the thread.
Anyway, why is Mobile Odin preferred for this phone? I knew a lot of people used it on the Touch but a lot preferred sticking it into the PC and playing it safer.
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Odin on PC trips the flash counter which will cause problems if you want to return it to AT&T. There are only two ways to fix that, one is TriangleAway app on ICS, I don't know the other one off-hand. But it's best to use Mobile Odin so you don't trip the flash counter at all; after that, you don't really need it. You can always use the Lite version just to flash a CWM-enabled kernel if you don't want to pay for Pro.
EDIT: Gah, beaten to the punch. Gave you a thanks creepyncrawly, just because your guide is so freaking awesome that I always reference it when trying to help noobs like myself xD.

karate104 said:
Following this will help you get CWM, which is a custom recovery. The basic steps in it are root, install Mobile Odin, use Mobile Odin to flash a custom kernel which includes CWM, then flash whatever ROM you want using CWM. All ROMs here, including ICS ones like AOKP, are CWM-flashable; as LilChris said, no problems using custom recovery.
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This the method I used and it has been working quite well.

Thanks for the tips everyone. Got it rooted and flashed the kernel. Installing AOKP as we speak.

karate104 said:
You can always use the Lite version just to flash a CWM-enabled kernel if you don't want to pay for Pro.
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Actually, you can install the lite version for free, and install the flash kernel onto it for free, and it will be almost as full functional as the paid version.
Btw, the two methods are usb jig (Gingerbread and ICS), and Triangle Away app (ICS only).

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[Q] GS2 i777 Root/ROM questions..

When I bought my GS2 I wasn't going to root it due to warranty issues but I see I can return my phone to factory specs if need be so now I''m contemplating rooting and flashing my GS2 for mainly these 4 reasons:
#1 improve battery life.
#2. get rid of the slight Lag we have with our GS2s
#3 get rid of AT&T's bloatware.
#4 it looks like it will be a LONG time before AT&T releases ICS so I imagine it will be modded and available for our i777s quite soon?
Any recommendations for the best rom for my needs would be greatly appreciated!!! TIA
The first thing I'd recommend is making sure you follow the sticky below so you don't increase the flash counter when flashing. A restore will not reset it.
As to the other recommendations, I'd simply suggest fully reading the initial posts in any thread for a rom/kernel you find interesting FULLY along with reading input from people who have tried said rom /kernels. Be fully aware of what you're attempting to do and always backup before any critical changes, etc. Basic stuff but worth mentioning. Oh and have fun.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
I totally understand and plan on doing a lot of research and reading but hoped for opinions from first hand use..
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Entropy512's return to stock/root package would be step number one.
Continuing to follow creepyncrawly's instructions flash entropy512's most recent kennel.
That gives you clockworkmod recovery in place of stock recovery.
Through cwm you can create backups that when flashed still do not trip the flash counter. And the same for any roms flashed through cwm, flash counter won't be tripped.
Just make sure you have a good backup. Can be worth copying it over to a computer.
I'd recommend flashing unnamed rom. Very close to stock but much better battery life and speed. Plus plenty of themes are being made for it. And it will give you an in general idea of the current things a custom rom changes. That way when you look at other roms you'll better understand the features they have.
If in doubt, always ask questions.
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gr8hairy1 said:
Entropy512's return to stock/root package would be step number one.
Continuing to follow creepyncrawly's instructions flash entropy512's most recent kennel.
That gives you clockworkmod recovery in place of stock recovery.
Through cwm you can create backups that when flashed still do not trip the flash counter. And the same for any roms flashed through cwm, flash counter won't be tripped.
Just make sure you have a good backup. Can be worth copying it over to a computer.
I'd recommend flashing unnamed rom. Very close to stock but much better battery life and speed. Plus plenty of themes are being made for it. And it will give you an in general idea of the current things a custom rom changes. That way when you look at other roms you'll better understand the features they have.
If in doubt, always ask questions.
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Thank you so much for the info, presently waiting on SDMicro ordered from Newegg then moving forward with your suggestions... Have some serious reading/researching to do tonight
I have been running UnNamed on Entropy512's kernel since I got the phone, and the battery life has been phenomenal; when I was testing, I was able to get over 2 days with light phone usage. gtg465x got rid of the home button lag and removed a lot of bloat from the ROM (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299474), but I also manually removed some additional apk's that I never used but found running in the background.
I will eventually get around to experimenting with other ROMs once I have the time to see if there is anything that I like better, but for now I would have to say that I am very happy with the state of my phone.
Good luck with your ROM hunt. And as Kadin said: have fun!
nitox.n2o said:
I have been running UnNamed on Entropy512's kernel since I got the phone, and the battery life has been phenomenal; when I was testing, I was able to get over 2 days with light phone usage. gtg465x got rid of the home button lag and removed a lot of bloat from the ROM (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299474), but I also manually removed some additional apk's that I never used but found running in the background.
I will eventually get around to experimenting with other ROMs once I have the time to see if there is anything that I like better, but for now I would have to say that I am very happy with the state of my phone.
Good luck with your ROM hunt. And as Kadin said: have fun!
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Thanks, sounds like you have exactly what I'm looking for(better battery, no lag and bloat ware)..
Did anyone do a test and see if they could get it back to stock for warranty purposes??
Assuming you root using creepyncrawly's method for not incrementing the flash counter, you can follow this guide to return to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313659
If you do trip the counter, you can use a USB Jig to reset it.
nitox.n2o said:
Assuming you root using creepyncrawly's method for not incrementing the flash counter, you can follow this guide to return to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313659
If you do trip the counter, you can use a USB Jig to reset it.
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Nice... Thank you so much, great to know it can and has been done.. You guys are the best!! Presently reading up on "how to root & install Unnamed", it's all new to me but I'm sure just like when I used to mod my old LG VU it will make perfect sense on what is being done and why when modding the OS.
Captpt said:
Nice... Thank you so much, great to know it can and has been done.. You guys are the best!! Presently reading up on "how to root & install Unnamed", it's all new to me but I'm sure just like when I used to mod my old LG VU it will make perfect sense on what is being done and why when modding the OS.
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Yup, it will all click soon enough. I was so extremely overwhelmed when I first bought my Captivate and with just a little reading and experimenting, I picked it up nice and fast. Sure I made some mistakes, but boy did I learn...
Ok just to be sure I got this right:
I have downloaded Entropy's "Odin3 One-Click Downloader Stock I-777 UCKH7 with Root no BL" to Root my GS2.
After that I just put UnNamed ROM "update-unnamed-v1.3.1-full" on my SD Micro and follow the Installation Instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299474 and that's it??
The Safe Counter is safe and back to stock is doable??
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Ok just to be sure I got this right:
I have downloaded Entropy's "Odin3 One-Click Downloader Stock I-777 UCKH7 with Root no BL" to Root my GS2.
After that I just put UnNamed ROM "update-unnamed-v1.3.1-full" on my SD Micro and follow the Installation Instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299474 and that's it??
The Safe Counter is safe and back to stock is doable??
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Yes and yes, and as long as you followed creepncrawly's steps to put a cwm kernel on your phone. Then follow those directions.
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gr8hairy1 said:
Yes and yes, and as long as you followed creepncrawly's steps to put a cwm kernel on your phone. Then follow those directions.
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I take it "Odin3 One-Click Downloader Stock I-777 UCKH7 with Root no BL" is NOT a CWM Kernel, I'm a bit confused, I flash Entropy's Kernel using Odin3 One-Click to root but then have to reflash that kernel with one with a CWM?
If this is true which I believe it is which Kernel w/CWM is recomended in my application (using Entropy's Odin3 1-Click Root and UnNamed ROM)??
After you use the 1 click your phone is rooted but does not have a custom kernel with cwm.
You put the custom kernel on in I believe step 2. He lists a number of ways to put the entropy kernel on.
After that you will be able to boot into cwm and load your custom rom.
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CyberpunkDad said:
After you use the 1 click your phone is rooted but does not have a custom kernel with cwm.
You put the custom kernel on in I believe step 2. He lists a number of ways to put the entropy kernel on.
After that you will be able to boot into cwm and load your custom rom.
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Ahh thanks Cyber, I thought so but wanted to be sure..
Sorry but i have what probably is a dumb question but after all is said and done can I re-sync my phone with Kies to put back my stuff (backed up calls, messages, documents ect...)??
Captpt said:
Ahh thanks Cyber, I thought so but wanted to be sure..
Sorry but i have what probably is a dumb question but after all is said and done can I re-sync my phone with Kies to put back my stuff (backed up calls, messages, documents ect...)??
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I'm not sure what all kies can back up. Connect to your phone and backup what you can. If you don't save it to your PC, you can't recover it.
Just know flashing a kernel through odin will trip your flash counter. Only unmodified stock kernel can be flashed through odin without tripping the flash counter. Though mobile odin can flash any kernel without tripping the flash counter.
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Just know flashing a kernel through odin will trip your flash counter. Only unmodified stock kernel can be flashed through odin without tripping the flash counter. Though mobile odin can flash any kernel without tripping the flash counter.
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Darn, back to reading up some more lol, don't want to trip the counter.. Trying to keep it as simple as possible being my first time round..
Creepys guide is perfect
As long as you follow Creepy's guide it doesn't trip the counter, I recently did it on my phone after not having any idea on what to do or how to do it regarding root. I have windows and rooted using Entropy512's Return/Unbrick to Stock, Kernel + Rooted System Package with Modem using Odin3 One-Click Downloader. I just verified my Counter Still says NO, with means the method worked without tripping it. I think the previous post was just so you understood a non-stock kernel would trip it, but since his kernel is based on stock it roots the device without tripping the counter, then you can follow the rest of the walkthrough, it's pretty easy. One note is that I used android terminal emulator to put the kernal with cwm on there, mostly because using adb sounded too complicated, if you do this and put the ZImage in the right place it's a piece of cake once cwm is on there.
Good luck, I'm no pro but the people here are excellent, just do your research and you can find almost anything
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. One note is that I used android terminal emulator to put the kernal with cwm on there, mostly because using adb sounded too complicated, if you do this and put the ZImage in the right place it's a piece of cake once cwm is on there.
Good luck, I'm no pro but the people here are excellent, just do your research and you can find almost anything
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Thanks Justin, yea I was worried about abd also, was thinking of getting Odin Pro to simplify things even more, apparently all can be done through the sd card using Pro..
The SD Micro card didn't arrive today so I have another night to read & research
You have to root in order for Odin pro to work. Just a fyi
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Bricked S2

New user yay
So here's the dealio guys, I've been researching about rooting and custom ROMs and such since I got my S2 (i777) a few months ago. I really don't like Touchwiz, and the stock ICS look is just better. So I found a nice-looking ROM (the AOKP ROM), rooted my phone with no problems using Siyah/Odin, and went ahead and put the ROM in an external SD card that I bought just for this purpose. So I boot into recovery mode (with ROM Manager), and then... nothing. I try to boot up my phone but it just flashes the start screen showing my model number, then just turns right back off. I've tried taking out my battery, still no dice. BUT, I can still get into download mode (but not recovery). So is there any way to restore the backup I made before installing the ROM using the download mode?
Thanks!
JakeAuditore said:
New user yay
So here's the dealio guys, I've been researching about rooting and custom ROMs and such since I got my S2 (i777) a few months ago. I really don't like Touchwiz, and the stock ICS look is just better. So I found a nice-looking ROM (the AOKP ROM), rooted my phone with no problems using Siyah/Odin, and went ahead and put the ROM in an external SD card that I bought just for this purpose. So I boot into recovery mode (with ROM Manager), and then... nothing. I try to boot up my phone but it just flashes the start screen showing my model number, then just turns right back off. I've tried taking out my battery, still no dice. BUT, I can still get into download mode (but not recovery). So is there any way to restore the backup I made before installing the ROM using the download mode?
Thanks!
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Plug phone in odin and try again
JakeAuditore said:
New user yay
So here's the dealio guys, I've been researching about rooting and custom ROMs and such since I got my S2 (i777) a few months ago. I really don't like Touchwiz, and the stock ICS look is just better. So I found a nice-looking ROM (the AOKP ROM), rooted my phone with no problems using Siyah/Odin, and went ahead and put the ROM in an external SD card that I bought just for this purpose. So I boot into recovery mode (with ROM Manager), and then... nothing. I try to boot up my phone but it just flashes the start screen showing my model number, then just turns right back off. I've tried taking out my battery, still no dice. BUT, I can still get into download mode (but not recovery). So is there any way to restore the backup I made before installing the ROM using the download mode?
Thanks!
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1. Never use ROM manager.
2. reflash i777 kernal with Odin.
3. get to recovery the correct way. ROM Manager is a joke.
killman2659 said:
Plug phone in odin and try again
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Alright, reinstalled Siyah, and it said successful, but now it's not getting past the battery indicator screen when charging. Still no dice.
MotoMudder77 said:
1. Never use ROM manager.
2. reflash i777 kernal with Odin.
3. get to recovery the correct way. ROM Manager is a joke.
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Plug phone in odin and try again
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Is there any way I can just factory restore vanilla ICS with Odin? Like, unroot it?
JakeAuditore said:
Is there any way I can just factory restore vanilla ICS with Odin? Like, unroot it?
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vanilla android is google, or AOSP.
This device has samsungs ****ty touchjizz.
Yes you can get a stock file from the download repository and flash a crappy build onto your phone.
MotoMudder77 said:
vanilla android is google, or AOSP.
This device has samsungs ****ty touchjizz.
Yes you can get a stock file from the download repository and flash a crappy build onto your phone.
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Yeah, I hate Touchwiz. I found an unroot file, flashed it, and now I'm back to Gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm going to probably update to ICS again, then try once more to put that ROM on here. I won't use ROM Manager this time, hopefully it'll go alright.
JakeAuditore said:
Yeah, I hate Touchwiz. I found an unroot file, flashed it, and now I'm back to Gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm going to probably update to ICS again, then try once more to put that ROM on here. I won't use ROM Manager this time, hopefully it'll go alright.
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iF you just want a custom ROM, just flash a custom kernel with odin, boot into recovery and flash said ROM. no need to go back to stock, update, flash another ROM, then root.....yada yada yada. waste of time and space on computer
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iF you just want a custom ROM, just flash a custom kernel with odin, boot into recovery and flash said ROM. no need to go back to stock, update, flash another ROM, then root.....yada yada yada. waste of time and space on computer
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So I can do all this from Gingerbread? It was an ICS ROM that basically is just like the stock Google version. That's what I have been wanting since the beginning.
JakeAuditore said:
So I can do all this from Gingerbread? It was an ICS ROM that basically is just like the stock Google version. That's what I have been wanting since the beginning.
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yea, in order to flash a custom ROM, you need custom recovery, ahh hell, been so long i forgot about having a rooted system required or not.
think you do, so should be able to get a rooted package, flash that, enter recovery and flash the ROM that you like.
Maybe someone will chime in and refresh my memory on the rooted system requirement.
U can flash a custom kernel .tar with Odin. There are some siyah tar files floating around. Or u could make a .tar yourself if u really wanted to. Once flashed it'll have cwm built in and u can flash whatever u want.
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MotoMudder77 said:
yea, in order to flash a custom ROM, you need custom recovery, ahh hell, been so long i forgot about having a rooted system required or not.
think you do, so should be able to get a rooted package, flash that, enter recovery and flash the ROM that you like.
Maybe someone will chime in and refresh my memory on the rooted system requirement.
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You only need root to install and use the Mobile Odin app, which is used for installing a custom kernel without tripping the flash counter. Once you've got Mobile Odin, download the custom kernel (e.g. Siyah) you want (ICS kernel if you're gonna install an ICS rom, same for GB), extract the zImage to your phone, and use Mobile Odin to install it. Note that if you're currently running GB and flash an ICS kernel, your phone won't boot but you can still get into CWM, which is all that matters because then you can flash the ICS rom of your choice and then your phone will boot.
Alternatively, you can do what Phalanx said and flash a custom kernel using PC version of Odin. Only difference between this and using Mobile Odin is you trip the flash counter, which can be fixed in any ICS rom by using the TriangleAway app.
The custom kernel will include CWM, which can then be used to flash any ROM/mod; in fact CWM is the ONLY safe method of flashing/wiping/restoring/backing up anything from that point forward.
karate104 said:
You only need root to install and use the Mobile Odin app, which is used for installing a custom kernel without tripping the flash counter. Once you've got Mobile Odin, download the custom kernel (e.g. Siyah) you want (ICS kernel if you're gonna install an ICS rom, same for GB), extract the zImage to your phone, and use Mobile Odin to install it. Note that if you're currently running GB and flash an ICS kernel, your phone won't boot but you can still get into CWM, which is all that matters because then you can flash the ICS rom of your choice and then your phone will boot.
Alternatively, you can do what Phalanx said and flash a custom kernel using PC version of Odin. Only difference between this and using Mobile Odin is you trip the flash counter, which can be fixed in any ICS rom by using the TriangleAway app.
The custom kernel will include CWM, which can then be used to flash any ROM/mod; in fact CWM is the ONLY safe method of flashing/wiping/restoring/backing up anything from that point forward.
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This may not be the place to ask but how can I reset the flash counter that pops up in download mode
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As long as you're running ICS, just download TriangleAway from the Play Store. That'll reset the flash counter to 0 and get rid of the yellow triangle that appears on start up.
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As long as you're running ICS, just download TriangleAway from the Play Store. That'll reset the flash counter to 0 and get rid of the yellow triangle that appears on start up.
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Oh epic thought it only got rid of the triangle! Thanks!
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Oh epic thought it only got rid of the triangle! Thanks!
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It does. It does BOTH.
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Bricked S2 too!
I finally bricked my first phone.Its been a long ride but it caught up to me. I have had three different android phones within about 4 years and have successfully rooted all three myself and have successfully flashed them over and over close to 1000 times between all three phones including modems, kernals, gapps, themes etc. So what gives? Why today? To be honest I don't know. But here is what happened...
The past few days I have been going back and forth between different kernals for this device to try to get something that won't freeze up. ( I liked browsing on this phone but I would get freeze ups and therefore would flash something new to try and resolve it.) Today my phone froze so I tried a simple reboot. The boot then did a freeze on the kernal's "intro" picture. It wasn't a bootloop it just frooze. (I was on XWLPT with Skyfire Kernal). I decided to reboot into recovery and flash a different kernel. I flashed NEAK The flash went halfway then stuck and froze. I rebooted to try to get back to the phone's main screen. This time it would not boot. I couldn't tell if it was in bootloop or was froze. I went back into recovery. Here I should of wiped everything but in the back of my mind I thought I could just do it in odin if I lost recovery. So I tried flashing Siyah for sammy roms. This is when I lost everything. It froze in cmw on the flash again but this time when I tried going back into recovery it stayed on the Galaxy SII screen. So I put the phone in download mode and started Odin up. When trying to flash anything in Odin I got stuck on nand write start! I never heard of this. I thought Odin would work as this is how I rooted the phone when I first got it. Last thing I did was install kies which couldn't even connect to the phone. So all I am left with is download mode and taking way more caution when flashing. I think it may have been a case of the brickbug. Even though I was on a I9100 rom and using "safe" kernels I believe something happened to lock me out from writing anything to the phone.
As long as you don't mind overwriting any data on the device you can use Kies for a complete restore. Download the latest version from Samsung, then click on the Tools selection, then "Firmware Upgrade and Initalization." You'll need your devices model number and serial number from underneath the battery. Follow the directions to put the device in download mode and proceed. You'll end up with a new factory-fresh reload.
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As long as you don't mind overwriting any data on the device you can use Kies for a complete restore. Download the latest version from Samsung, then click on the Tools selection, then "Firmware Upgrade and Initalization." You'll need your devices model number and serial number from underneath the battery. Follow the directions to put the device in download mode and proceed. You'll end up with a new factory-fresh reload.
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Now this i didn't know. My SII has been acting really weird ever since I unrooted. It won't let me update my firmware past 2.3.4 for some reason. So if I did this, it will most likely fix that problem?
Alright, I connected my phone to Kies, and went to Tools>Firmware Upgrade and Initialization, and it says my device does not support initialization. It also says this right under my device info:
Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies
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Current firmware version: PDA:KH7 / PHONE:LE5 / CSC:KH7 (ATT)
Ugh, really getting tired of this. Why is my phone being retarded? I don't think I want to bother rooting anymore, it seems like more of a hassle than a good thing. I really don't want to have to break my phone to get a replacement with my warranty. How do I fix this, guys?!

flashing new rom

I would like to flash a new rom. i am currently rooted. I would like to be able to use the nfc feature, as well have jellybean installed. i was looking at using this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718. it mentions cwm. is this ok to install on my phone? also, any guidance with this would be great!
Yes its fine
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Add long as your phone is an i777, you follow the instructions on the OP, and you re-wipe and flash before asking about something messing up... Yes.
I would also recommend flashing aokp 7.3 ICS, then flashing the JB ROM. It seems to be helpful.
Clay
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OP don't forget to hit the thanks button to those who have helped you.
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I would like to flash a new rom. i am currently rooted. I would like to be able to use the nfc feature, as well have jellybean installed. i was looking at using this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718. it mentions cwm. is this ok to install on my phone? also, any guidance with this would be great!
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Our phones have a recovery built into the kernel so make sure not to try and flash anything with Rom Manager.
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sniper8752 said:
I would like to flash a new rom. i am currently rooted. I would like to be able to use the nfc feature, as well have jellybean installed. i was looking at using this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718. it mentions cwm. is this ok to install on my phone? also, any guidance with this would be great!
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If you start off using any custom ROM, especially the AOKP, I do suggest you spend time read more, follow that thread (the link you provided), the more you read the more you save time and avoid headache down the road. One example that Phalanx just pointed out, it isn't listed anywhere but from reading and following that thread.
1. Make sure your device is i777, if anything other than that, stop.
2. Make sure you have the CwM Recovery installed. Do get along with the buttons such what home button does, what power button does. It depends on the CwMR version.
3. Follow the instruction of the ROM for installation.
4. Good luck and enjoy.
I have cwm installed, and I select the option in the app to reboot into recovery. it reboots, and goes into recovery mode. the only problem is, is that it is the android system recovery. I do not see an option for backup there.
sniper8752 said:
I have cwm installed, and I select the option in the app to reboot into recovery. it reboots, and goes into recovery mode. the only problem is, is that it is the android system recovery. I do not see an option for backup there.
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For crispy sake don't use Rom manager!
Read more before flashing anything
Raise yer mizzenmast and swab 'er poop deck!
sniper8752 said:
I have cwm installed, and I select the option in the app to reboot into recovery. it reboots, and goes into recovery mode. the only problem is, is that it is the android system recovery. I do not see an option for backup there.
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Luckily you don't have CWM installed yet using Rom Manager what you have is Rom Manager....
1. Uninstall Rom Manager ASOP
2. You need to flash a custom kernel to get CWM you can do that be installing Mobile Odin lite free from XDA and flashing a kernel...
3. You need to read LOTS more or you risk BRICKING your phone......
4. It will depend what ROM your on now what kernel you need to flash to get CWM Gingerbread = GB kernel ICS = ICS kernel PLEASE read before doing ANYTHING............
5. Go to this link and READ 3a. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18576627#post18576627
snipe2nite said:
Luckily you don't have CWM installed yet using Rom Manager what you have is Rom Manager....
1. Uninstall Rom Manager ASOP
2. You need to flash a custom kernel to get CWM you can do that be installing Mobile Odin lite free from XDA and flashing a kernel...
3. You need to read LOTS more or you risk BRICKING your phone......
4. It will depend what ROM your on now what kernel you need to flash to get CWM Gingerbread = GB kernel ICS = ICS kernel PLEASE read before doing ANYTHING............
5. Go to this link and READ 3a. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18576627#post18576627
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i noticed there is only mobile odin pro now? any free solutions? and so with this, i can flash my rom?
sniper8752 said:
i noticed there is only mobile odin pro now? any free solutions? and so with this, i can flash my rom?
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No. The lite version is still in the OP of the developers thread as an attachment.
sniper8752 said:
i noticed there is only mobile odin pro now? any free solutions? and so with this, i can flash my rom?
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I will help you get this working, I have some questions tho to get you the right info when you see this respond back just don't do anything till
I help you.... I would rather help you then have you brick your phone but of course do whatever you want.... You can DL and install these 2 files just like any other apk install MobileODINLite first then FlashKernel I777 of course you will need to be rooted, this wont change anything on your phone it will just install the app to get you ready to flash the zImage... The next step is KEY as to what you're running now.... That's where I have questions...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xxf4c4tvevh1gnx/MobileODINLite-v3.25.apk Here is a link to the latest release from my dropbox.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5q4b5tkmxsdx0e1/Mobile ODIN FlashKernel I777.apk FlashKernel I777
EDIT I will be around here for about 3 hours it's 6:40am now on the west coast after that it will be like 10 hours...
got it. why does odin need my location?
also, it says that odin required an add-on to be able to flash firmwares on the device (i think i just figured it out... was that the second thing i installed?).
thanks for your help! i appreciate it.
sniper8752 said:
got it. why does odin need my location?
also, it says that odin required an add-on to be able to flash firmwares on the device (i think i just figured it out... was that the second thing i installed?).
thanks for your help! i appreciate it.
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I'm not sure why the location permission BUT it is built by 1 of the best devs on here ChainFire nothing to worrie about....
the second file was the add-on, when you load mobile odin is it saying you need to install the add-on? Now you need to flash the zImage to get CWM if you haven't already....What firmware are you on now? I feel dumb telling to flash the 2nd file you only need the Odin lite to flash the zImage (kernel) to get CWM once you flash a new ROM in CWM you will lose all the data anyways... Now that you have um back them up and save them so when you flash a new ROM you can reinstall both of them!! Always good to have IMO...
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I'm not sure why the location permission BUT it is built by 1 of the best devs on here ChainFire nothing to worrie about....
the second file was the add-on, when you load mobile odin is it saying you need to install the add-on? Now you need to flash the zImage to get CWM if you haven't already....What firmware are you on now? I feel dumb telling to flash the 2nd file you only need the Odin lite to flash the zImage (kernel) to get CWM once you flash a new ROM in CWM you will lose all the data anyways... Now that you have um back them up and save them so when you flash a new ROM you can reinstall both of them!! Always good to have IMO...
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I have installed both apks. zimage has to do with the bootup, right? where do i get that file? would the firmware be i777ucle5?
@sniper8752,
You seem to be flailing around in the dark. You really need to not only read, but also see how things fit together. Just a friendly warning, if you don't know what a zImage is, or why you are flashing it, or which zImage to use, you still need to do some more reading and get a better overall picture before you continue with flashing JellyBean.
The zImage is the kernel. (Don't forget to capitalize the I as linux is case sensitive.) I am assuming you are rooted but do not have ClockworkMod Recovery installed yet. You need to install a custom kernel that matches your system. That means flash a Gingerbread kernel if you currently have a Gingerbread system, or an ICS kernel if you currently have an ICS system. The various options for the kernels are available in the development section. To use a zImage with mobile odin, you must extract the zImage from the .zip file (or sometimes .tar) that the developer makes available. Mobile odin can actually pull the kernel from a tar file, but it will not recognize a zip file.
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@sniper8752,
You seem to be flailing around in the dark. You really need to not only read, but also see how things fit together. Just a friendly warning, if you don't know what a zImage is, or why you are flashing it, or which zImage to use, you still need to do some more reading and get a better overall picture before you continue with flashing JellyBean.
The zImage is the kernel. (Don't forget to capitalize the I as linux is case sensitive.) I am assuming you are rooted but do not have ClockworkMod Recovery installed yet. You need to install a custom kernel that matches your system. That means flash a Gingerbread kernel if you currently have a Gingerbread system, or an ICS kernel if you currently have an ICS system. The various options for the kernels are available in the development section. To use a zImage with mobile odin, you must extract the zImage from the .zip file (or sometimes .tar) that the developer makes available. Mobile odin can actually pull the kernel from a tar file, but it will not recognize a zip file.
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I have decided on flashing this rom: http://ultimatum.us/. looks like it will take about an hour to download... i currently have ics installed. to flash the zImage, do I click on "Kernel" in the app.?
thanks for help and explaining the zImage. what would be the best way to learn all of this? is there a good site so I don't have to go looking around everywhere? maybe like a beginner's guide?
sniper8752 said:
I have decided on flashing this rom: http://ultimatum.us/. looks like it will take about an hour to download... i currently have ics installed. to flash the zImage, do I click on "Kernel" in the app.?
thanks for help and explaining the zImage. what would be the best way to learn all of this? is there a good site so I don't have to go looking around everywhere? maybe like a beginner's guide?
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Dude, you are so far off path. there are no "begginers" guides, just what we got. Honestly, this stuff aint for you man. dont mess with your phone.
but if you insist, then just keep reading.
sniper8752 said:
I have decided on flashing this rom: http://ultimatum.us/. looks like it will take about an hour to download... i currently have ics installed. to flash the zImage, do I click on "Kernel" in the app.?
thanks for help and explaining the zImage. what would be the best way to learn all of this? is there a good site so I don't have to go looking around everywhere? maybe like a beginner's guide?
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What app? There is no app...
ClockWorkMod Recovery (CWM) yes, app NO.
EDIT: Just realized you may be talking about mobile Odin our three cwm app. Don't use either at this print, much easier using CWM (reboot into recovery of you've got a custom ROM/kernel)
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so i should use cwm instead of odin? i thought people were telling me not to use cwm?

Just an FYI...

"@shojus Yes, Mobile ODIN and Triangle Away support will be coming for the VZW Note 2"
Coming straight from the man himself! ( Chainfire ) :good:
These are VERY good apps guys and I happened to pay for them both and they pay for themselves pretty quick and he also offers free versions to members of this community but it's also great to donate to a GREAT dev so this is good news to hear for me! I'm ready to get to flashin!
EDIT: Please read this thread. If you don't know what these apps do or have never used them then you should probably stay away from them... These are just words of caution as Adam Outler's method of unlocking is FAR different than the usual method. Thanks
shojus said:
"@shojus Yes, Mobile ODIN and Triangle Away support will be coming for the VZW Note 2"
Coming straight from the man himself! ( Chainfire ) :good:
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I've never used the above apps myself (I have a usb jig) but hear great things about them. Having said that I would caution anyone against being too excited for them and using/overusing them if at all possible. Straight from Outler's unlock thread:
"Conclusion
Congratulations, You're Unlocked. Your Galaxy Note 2 has gone from the most secure device on the market, to the least secure device publicly available. Your device will now accept any flash. Be careful and dont flash with Odin again. Stick to CWM zip packages so as to lower your risk."
You would only need to use TriangleAway if you flash anything with Odin and the above shows that you probably want to be extremely cautious using Odin if you use it at all. I'm sure many of us know the risks involved with using Odin but I had not seen any responses to the above and wanted to put this back out there.
nice
They are both excellent apps! Used them both on my galaxy s3
Doin' big thangs from my Note Deuce
I never used these apps ...can we use these app if on twrp and unlocked bootloader...was stated before not to use odin after unlocking bootloader
Jiggity Janx said:
I've never used the above apps myself (I have a usb jig) but hear great things about them. Having said that I would caution anyone against being too excited for them and using/overusing them if at all possible. Straight from Outler's unlock thread:
"Conclusion
Congratulations, You're Unlocked. Your Galaxy Note 2 has gone from the most secure device on the market, to the least secure device publicly available. Your device will now accept any flash. Be careful and dont flash with Odin again. Stick to CWM zip packages so as to lower your risk."
You would only need to use TriangleAway if you flash anything with Odin and the above shows that you probably want to be extremely cautious using Odin if you use it at all. I'm sure many of us know the risks involved with using Odin but I had not seen any responses to the above and wanted to put this back out there.
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I totally agree that you should definitely use caution while using these apps and they are not really for the noobs but if you need to take your phone back to Verizon for service then Triangle Away totally clears all of your flash counts and worked wonders for me when I had problems with my Samsung S3. Mobile Odin I did not use too much but I definitely don't flash things through Odin that I should not be flashing and like you said everyone should use caution! I didn't meant to sound like everyone should just run out and start flashin through Odin I just really like the ability to use certain features and both of the apps have great functionality when and IF needed... :good:
Conclusion: If you don't know what these apps do or have never heard of them then you probably should not use them...
Mobile Odin is mean for restoring your phone to stock if the USB port has stopped working. It isn't meant for casual flashing really, though it can be used that way, and I'm guessing people probably do use it that way. TriangleAway is another tool that is really only mean if you're looking to return your phone for warranty purposes and is one of the last things you would do before unrooting. Neither tool is something you use just for fun or because you're feeling bored. It is nice to get both of them though in case they are needed.
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Mobile Odin is mean for restoring your phone to stock if the USB port has stopped working. It isn't meant for casual flashing really, though it can be used that way, and I'm guessing people probably do use it that way. TriangleAway is another tool that is really only mean if you're looking to return your phone for warranty purposes and is one of the last things you would do before unrooting. Neither tool is something you use just for fun or because you're feeling bored. It is nice to get both of them though in case they are needed.
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Exactly...:good:
I kept Mobile Odin (paid) on my Gnex as I always feared a micro usb failure. I would love to be able to have it installed on the GN2.
Thanks
Conclusion: If you don't know what these apps do or have never heard of them then you probably should not use them
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Im new to this so, please excuse my confusion, but nearly every thread on xda explaining how to root the note 2 has downloading and using odin in the instructions. what should we use to root instead of odin?
thanks in advance
wickets said:
Im new to this so, please excuse my confusion, but nearly every thread on xda explaining how to root the note 2 has downloading and using odin in the instructions. what should we use to root instead of odin?
thanks in advance
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Mobile odin is more for developers that have to use odin files to flash. If you unlocked your bootloader then you shouldn't be using odin anymore because you'll have a custom recovery. You just flash zips. But if you didn't unlock yet and your still flashing odin files then you would be able to use this. Its basically there so you dont need a computer you can do it all on your phone and flash new ROMs.
Doin' big thangs from my Note Deuce
I'd never used mobile odin before.....but can anyone show me how to use it?
Let's say I wanna flash revision rom1 and pit file. How do I flash it?
Thanks for the clarification.
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wickets said:
Im new to this so, please excuse my confusion, but nearly every thread on xda explaining how to root the note 2 has downloading and using odin in the instructions. what should we use to root instead of odin?
thanks in advance
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You can't use Mobile Odin without being rooted, so you can't use it to initially root your phone. Again, you shouldn't be using it at all unless you're restoring your phone to stock with a broken USB port. Also, the VZW Note 2 isn't on the supported list yet, so you shouldn't even be trying to do anything with Mobile Odin or TriangleAway right now.
Any word on when we will see Triangle Away for the Verizon Note 2?

Stuck in CWM Recovery

Hey guys.
I've searched the forums for this issue, unfortunately it seems like mine is a little unique and I can't find a solution to my problem anywhere.
I'm stuck in CWM Recovery mode, and although I can navigate the menu... when pressing the Home key to select the various options, nothing happens besides the options blinking for a sec. I can access Odin Mode with Power/Volume +/- but that's it. Also it's worth noting that I'm unable to access my phone's files from my computer when in download mode (my guess is because the phone isn't set to USB storage mode which I have to do from the booted home screen, which... I can't access).
This happened after the first time entering Recovery mode on CWM, and although I have ROM Manager installed on my phone, after researching a little I found that was NOT what I wanted to use. And I did NOT use that program.. my CWM was flashed in from a .tar on Odin (the windows program). I also have a Jellybam folder placed in the phone, which was my next step.
How can I get out of CWM Recovery so that I can continue flashing the Jellybam ROM?
I apologize if I've missed anything. Please let me know if you need any other information. I'll be sure to hit the thank you button on every reply.
THANK YOU!
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um....
you are supposed to flash the ROM from CWM, so why would you want to get out of CWM to get back into CWM?
you havent mentioned what version of Android you were already running or what kernel you flashed, but have you tried using the POWER button to select things in CWM? Are you sure you used the right kernel? Are you sure you have an i777?
Hey Pirateghost, thanks for the reply! And yes, I was going into CWM Recovery to flash the ROM. The reason I wanted out of CWM was because it had no functionality... yes, I did try using the power button to select things. Seems the home button was it? In any case nothing worked. My version of Android was Gingerbread UCKH7, and I'm %100 sure it's an i777. By using the "right kernel" you mean the right version of Jellybam?
UPDATE: I got out of the bootloop by using a stock root UCKH7 kernel, bringing it in from Odin. Now I'm just trying to understand what went wrong and how I can continue to flash my Jellybam ROM in without any issues. I also found that my CWM app disappeared after I uninstalled ROM Manager after getting access back to my phone.
More info...
the kernel I installed for CWM was KH4 at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
After putting the KH7 stock root kernel in via Odin and getting out of the bootloop, I deleted ROM Manager off my phone and reflashed the KH4 kernel so I could get CWM. That worked fine, but now Superuser is crashing.
??
xargis said:
More info...
the kernel I installed for CWM was KH4 at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
After putting the KH7 stock root kernel in via Odin and getting out of the bootloop, I deleted ROM Manager off my phone and reflashed the KH4 kernel so I could get CWM. That worked fine, but now Superuser is crashing.
??
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The kernel you just linked above is for the GT-I9100, not the SGH-I777. You seem to be moving forward without providing yourself with enough knowledge. If you are sure the phone is an I777 then stay away from the I9100 forums. Get what you need from here. There is lots of information in the guides linked in my signature. There is enough information there to guide you through everything you want to do.
xargis said:
More info...
the kernel I installed for CWM was KH4 at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
After putting the KH7 stock root kernel in via Odin and getting out of the bootloop, I deleted ROM Manager off my phone and reflashed the KH4 kernel so I could get CWM. That worked fine, but now Superuser is crashing.
??
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You are flashing an older kernel on a newer ROM??? why? if you want to have CMW recovery you should flash your stock rom and then get the CWM .tar file and flash it in Odin. If you happen to get a .zip CWM file you can rename it to update.zip and flash it using your stock ROM's recovery options.
Search something along these lines: CWM5.8.1.8-i777.zip or recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.3-galaxys2att.tar as examples
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The kernel you just linked above is for the GT-I9100, not the SGH-I777. You seem to be moving forward without providing yourself with enough knowledge. If you are sure the phone is an I777 then stay away from the I9100 forums. Get what you need from here. There is lots of information in the guides linked in my signature. There is enough information there to guide you through everything you want to do.
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WOW! I don't know how I missed that. Must pay more attention to detail...
Thank you so much for pointing that out Creepyncrawly!
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... If you happen to get a .zip CWM file you can rename it to update.zip and flash it using your stock ROM's recovery options. ...
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It's great having new folks around helping out.
This is bad information, however. 3e recovery will enforce signature verification on any update.zip, and it will fail.
creepyncrawly said:
It's great having new folks around helping out.
This is bad information, however. 3e recovery will enforce signature verification on any update.zip, and it will fail.
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always a pleasure to lend a hand. you're right it used to work on 2e I think, I was trying to signify the difference between the zip and tar, but thank you so much for the correction.
So should I be using a different kernel? I'm sorry I'm not quite sure what you're saying Commodore64, my head has been spinning from all this.
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So should I be using a different kernel? I'm sorry I'm not quite sure what you're saying Commodore64, my head has been spinning from all this.
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you should be using a kernel intended for your phone....your phone (if branded AT&T) is either an i727 skyrocket or i777. this is the i777 forum section. you appear to have flashed a kernel for an i9100...
just follow creepy's guides and do it the right way. there is nothing you can flash in STOCK recovery that will give you CWM or a new kernel (which on this phone CWM is packed with the kernel)
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So should I be using a different kernel? I'm sorry I'm not quite sure what you're saying Commodore64, my head has been spinning from all this.
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There is not just one answer, you can go back to one of the stock ROMs, like the ones provided by creepyncrawly threads.
There are a lot of threads on this and I don't have my I777 anymore but I used to do this:
1- Once you flashed a stock rom, go into recovery and cleanup. data/cache reset.
2- Have the files you want to flash on your phone. (if you format the SD card you will erase your files including the ones you want to flash!)
3- Use your .tar Odin CWM that worked for you before now to flash CWM.
4- Once in the CWM flash a newer CWM version (CWM6.0.1.0-i777.zip) since your ROM is based on CM/AOKP
5- After flash Go to Advanced and reboot recovery (this will reboot your phone now with the newer version of CWM)
6- Once in the newer CWM clean up again.
7- Don't reboot, have the correct version (latest or whatever) of your Custom ROM and install it now.
This is the general idea, if you don't know what you're doing read the threads in the development section, everything you need is there.
Educate yourself before you make your phone a crippled rabbit and scream for help.
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There is not just one answer, you can go back to one of the stock ROMs, like the ones provided by creepyncrawly threads.
There are a lot of threads on this and I don't have my I777 anymore but I used to do this:
1- Once you flashed a stock rom, go into recovery and cleanup. data/cache reset.
2- Have the files you want to flash on your phone. (if you format the SD card you will erase your files including the ones you want to flash!)
3- Use your .tar Odin CWM that worked for you before now to flash CWM.
4- Once in the CWM flash a newer CWM version (CWM6.0.1.0-i777.zip) since your ROM is based on CM/AOKP
5- After flash Go to Advanced and reboot recovery (this will reboot your phone now with the newer version of CWM)
6- Once in the newer CWM clean up again.
7- Don't reboot, have the correct version (latest or whatever) of your Custom ROM and install it now.
This is the general idea, if you don't know what you're doing read the threads in the development section, everything you need is there.
Educate yourself before you make your phone a crippled rabbit and scream for help.
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this makes no sense, dude.
1. if he is on a stock rom, there is nothing CM/AOKP on his phone
2. on this device the recovery is packed with the kernel, flashing some other CWM doesnt really matter at all. none of this is necessary.
you can flash any kernel you want (made for this device) if you dont plan on booting the OS and only plan on flashing a rom...
you have now complicated an already easy method.
Hey everyone - just wanted to let you guys know that I am now running JellyBAM and so far everything seems fine.
Thank you all for your help, seriously. If anyone has any questions about what I did etc., just ask and I'll get back to ya.
Thanks! :good:
Glad to hear you got JellyBAM up and running xargis, and just to reiterate what pirateghost was saying, you won't get CWM by flashing a CWM.tar file lol, I don't even think one can be found for this model (SGH-i777) which is the device that I currently have, the ONLY way to get CWM onto this device is to flash the proper kernel for this device, but keep in mind that there is another factor to think about as well, depending on what type of custom rom you want to run there are different kernels out there that work best and offer different/better features for deployment into the custom rom for which you will be running, in other words some roms are kernel specific, you can only use certain kernels with CM10/AOKP/ParanoidAndroid based roms, and such is the same with only using certain kernels with Sammy based stock roms, so the choice is yours, hope this info was informative to you and that you definately find a good productive rom that you will be happy to play with and run, have fun with your i777 s2, that's one of the things this forum is all about!!

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