Hi folks,
Has anyone had much luck with tethering an Internet connection using bluetooth (not wifi)
I've tried tethering from my HTC Desire HD (ICS 4.0.4) to my Archos 101 G9 (ICS 4.0.4), after pairing I can get the tablet to connect and use the Internet connection, but after a minute the bluetooth connection drops out.
Has anyone else noticed a similar problem?
I've found a few threads on the Asus Transformer section with a very similar issue but they seems to have been fixed by a recent firmware update from Asus.
no tethering by BT with ICS
use the wifi
I've gotten it to work using foxfi on my galaxy nexus and pdanet tablet on the g9
sleepyguy007 said:
I've gotten it to work using foxfi on my galaxy nexus and pdanet tablet on the g9
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I got it to work once using pdanet tablet and foxfi. I can't get it to work anymore though.
At OP make sure you have tun.ko installed on your tablet so Bluetooth tether may work.
Sent from my X10i using M&M's MIUI v2.0 + tapatalk :-D
I have a 101 G9 Turbo 8GB version I bought off Sellout.Woot back in March. I installed a rom off XDA but I don't remember which one! It was one of the 3.2.80 versions though. After some trial and error I have been able to tether my tablet to my Nokia E71 through bluetooth DUN using the command line. It isn't the easiest to do but its usable.
it works good when tethering from Asus transformer to my archos g9 101 but the speed isnt the best.
djdoc1975 said:
I got it to work once using pdanet tablet and foxfi. I can't get it to work anymore though.
At OP make sure you have tun.ko installed on your tablet so Bluetooth tether may work.
Sent from my X10i using M&M's MIUI v2.0 + tapatalk :-D
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When you got it working were you using Gingerbread or ICS?
Thanks
-Richard
rjpearce said:
When you got it working were you using Gingerbread or ICS?
Thanks
-Richard
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Ics, I got it working about 2 weeks ago. But not had any luck since then.
Sent from my X10i using M&M's MIUI v2.0 + tapatalk :-D
Works for me!
It works outstandingly for me:
Phone: Verizon XV6900 (aka HTC Touch - CDMA EVDO rev A, no wifi), WinMo 6.1 running Internet Sharing utility.
Archos 80, "Staples Special" (1 Ghz/512 MB RAM/7 GB storage - listed as 4GB, go figure), ICS, FW 4.0.6
How I did it:
1. BT pair the phone and tablet (duh ;-)
2. Make sure they are connected - tap the phone device name in the Android BT settings list so it shows connected
3. Start ICS ("Internet Connection Sharing" - they had that acronym long before any Google Android existed ;-) on the WinMo phone, tap its "Connect" soft key.
4. Android settings: "More.../Tethering & portable hotspot/Bluetooth tethering" check marked (yeah, I thought that meant the Archos would share its connection - dunno about that, but it is working in the opposite direction for me - go figure).
I streamed a TunedIn radio stream for several hours this way at a hotel recently (good thing I have the "unlimited" data plan grandfathered, but looks like I only used about 20MB, picking 40Kbps stream).
YMMV
rokkywoof said:
It works outstandingly for me:
3. Start ICS ("Internet Connection Sharing" - they had that acronym long before any Google Android existed ;-) on the WinMo phone, tap its "Connect" soft key.
4. Android settings: "More.../Tethering & portable hotspot/Bluetooth tethering" check marked (yeah, I thought that meant the Archos would share its connection - dunno about that, but it is working in the opposite direction for me - go figure).
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It does work because the two bluetooth device are connected and if the second support being used as a modem...it will default into that Internet Sharing profile.
I don't think your step 3 & 4 is necessery. I've used Archos 80 with Nokia C3 and other Android Tablets. It seems to more work with Bluetooth 3.0 devices.
Instead of 3 & 4 above ...you should go to Bluetooth, find the paired and connected device and click on the Setting icon....you will see a check box there which checked by default "Use this to connect to the internet"
I dont get the Blutooth tethering to work...
HTC HD Mini (WinMo 6.5) and G9 101 1,5GHz 8GB (ICS 4.0.7 Stock)
Pairing is no problem.
But starting ICS it tells me that a NAP network is required and the G9 does not support that...
I did exactly like rokkywoof described, but :-(
Does anybody have it running with that combination (WinMo 6.5 and G9 ICS 407)?
Thanks,
Marti
nashi20002003 said:
It does work because the two bluetooth device are connected and if the second support being used as a modem...it will default into that Internet Sharing profile.
I don't think your step 3 & 4 is necessery. I've used Archos 80 with Nokia C3 and other Android Tablets. It seems to more work with Bluetooth 3.0 devices.
Instead of 3 & 4 above ...you should go to Bluetooth, find the paired and connected device and click on the Setting icon....you will see a check box there which checked by default "Use this to connect to the internet"
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Cool - you are correct that step 4 is not needed (probably explains why I was so surprised by my "misunderstanding" of the Archos' tethering setting - no misunderstanding at all since, instead, that BT setting you point out is what must be setting the Archos to tether off a device such as my phone).
However, step 3, on my XV6900 phone at least, is most definitely needed. Unless the phone is running that ICS app, it has no way to share its data network connection for Internet access - it will not run it automatically. Good thing, too, or it would run the battery down in no time.
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mrmartischmi said:
I dont get the Blutooth tethering to work...
HTC HD Mini (WinMo 6.5) and G9 101 1,5GHz 8GB (ICS 4.0.7 Stock)
Pairing is no problem.
But starting ICS it tells me that a NAP network is required and the G9 does not support that...
I did exactly like rokkywoof described, but :-(
Does anybody have it running with that combination (WinMo 6.5 and G9 ICS 407)?
Thanks,
Marti
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If my acronym lookup is correct, "NAP" means Network Access Point, and that should be what your phone connects to in order to share that connection with the Archos (tethering). The G9 really should not "care" how your phone connects to a data network, or did the G9 throw that message? If so, that would seem to indicate the G9 is trying to share a mobile data connection it does not have (assuming no 3G USB device plugged into the USB port on the back of the G9), so maybe you need to unset the Archos tethering setting that my step 4 specifies, as
nashi20002003 pointed out in correcting my instructions. I have found now that I only need to go as far as step 3 (contrary to nashi20002003's other "correction" - I have to respectfully disagree with that part in that I must manually run ICS on the phone ).
Have you ever had the ICS (assuming you meant WinMo Internet Connection Sharing, as I did - not Android version, Ice Cream Sandwich) utility to work for any other device? Do you get data connections (web, email, etc) now with the phone when using it by itself?
Back to the phone setting, my ICS window shows 2 dropdown text boxes. One is "PC Connection" with choices of USB or Bluetooth PAN, the latter being what I use with the Archos. The other dropdown box is "Network Connection", and my only choice is "Data Network Connect", which is my Verizon 3G connection.
I would guess your phone has some variant of GSM technology such as my T-Mobile Dell Streak 5. It has an Access Point specified (epc.tmobile.com) under its Android Settings/Wireless & network settings/Mobile networks/Access Point Names. I would think that is what your NAP refers to, and it needs to be set and active for a data connection for your phone to share. Maybe your ICS setup needs a configuration item set for that which is equivalent to my "Data Network Connect" mentioned in the preceding paragraph? ICS has a path to those settings in its menu on the bottom right via the "Connection Settings" option, but that is too complex for me to step through right now - especially since I have not touched it for a couple years (thinking it "just worked" as installed, and likely I never "touched" it) .
HTH - share more info, and ask any further questions you might have to see if we can work through this.
@rokkywoof:
sorry for the delay, I was on a short trip this weekend
Thanks a lot for your reply and your help.
I could not get the g9 to use the internet connection of my phone via bluetooth.
I am using the internet with my phone (3g connection) with no problem.
I never used the InternetConnectionUtility on my phone with another device.
I can pair my phone with the g9 via bluetooth.
My ICS setting on the phone shows the same 2 dropdown boxes and under "PC-Connection" I choose "Bluetooth PAN" as you do and under "Network connection" I choose "Internet GPRS" (thats my normal internet connection, I assume). I click connect (bottom left) and the phone then tells me that it cant connect to a NAP network.
I think I have to tell the phone Bluetooth that it should provide something like a "Modem-Profile" and the g9 that it has to use the paired phone as the internet-connection. But I am not able to find these two items anywhere...
I already looked through Bluetooth settings (bottom right in ICS onPhone) but was not successful in finding any valuable items or settings.
If you have any further ideas I would very much appreciate your help!
Thanks so far,
Marti
Staples Special Specs.
rokkywoof said:
Archos 80, "Staples Special" (1 Ghz/512 MB RAM/7 GB storage - listed as 4GB, go figure), ICS
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A further "Go Figure" on the Staples Special is that the CPU is actually 1.2 Ghz. Go figure. Finally go weigh it. Spec says 475g, actual 525g. I think they added a metal plate to the back to stop your finger from causing the swirlies. I also believe that TI recently quit making OMAP 4430 in 1 Ghz, but my guess is the literature was already produced. Maybe they stopped making 4 GB storage too!
mrmartischmi said:
@rokkywoof:
sorry for the delay, I was on a short trip this weekend
Thanks a lot for your reply and your help.
I could not get the g9 to use the internet connection of my phone via bluetooth.
I am using the internet with my phone (3g connection) with no problem.
I never used the InternetConnectionUtility on my phone with another device.
I can pair my phone with the g9 via bluetooth.
My ICS setting on the phone shows the same 2 dropdown boxes and under "PC-Connection" I choose "Bluetooth PAN" as you do and under "Network connection" I choose "Internet GPRS" (thats my normal internet connection, I assume). I click connect (bottom left) and the phone then tells me that it cant connect to a NAP network.
I think I have to tell the phone Bluetooth that it should provide something like a "Modem-Profile" and the g9 that it has to use the paired phone as the internet-connection. But I am not able to find these two items anywhere...
I already looked through Bluetooth settings (bottom right in ICS onPhone) but was not successful in finding any valuable items or settings.
If you have any further ideas I would very much appreciate your help!
Thanks so far,
Marti
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At this point, all I can suggest is focus on getting your phone's ICS to work. Are there any other settings for Network Connection than "Internet GPRS"? If so, you might want to try them to see if that gets any better results (or at least informative messages that might provide any useful clues).
Do you (or a willing friend) have any other devices with Bluetooth that can network via PAN? If so, see what results you get with them.
As for the G9 settings, when I go to the Bluetooth settings, the phone, in my list of paired devices, has a settings button (the same 3 horizontal lines with "blips" on them as used for the main overall Archos settings button image, only smaller), and when I tap that, it shows a "Profiles" section with option for "internet access" that takes a check mark to activate - do you see that on your G9? Even so, if the phone is throwing that NAP error, I doubt that will make any difference, but at least see if it is available.
BTW, I updated to the 4.0.7 "firmware", so that makes no difference on my G9 80.
HTH,
R
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samhande said:
A further "Go Figure" on the Staples Special is that the CPU is actually 1.2 Ghz. Go figure. Finally go weigh it. Spec says 475g, actual 525g. I think they added a metal plate to the back to stop your finger from causing the swirlies. I also believe that TI recently quit making OMAP 4430 in 1 Ghz, but my guess is the literature was already produced. Maybe they stopped making 4 GB storage too!
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Ah - Staples not catching up with all of the Archos updates might explain some, but not all, of the discrepancies.
The current Staples description only states "OMAP 4 ARM CORTEXTM dual-core A9" without specifying which TI processor. My tablet's info shows 4460, but not speed, and Archos' site specs for the 80 state still state 1Ghz, and, for the TURBO, "from 1.2GHz to 1.5GHz (at start of 2012)". Did you actually measure the speed with some utility?
I just weighed mine on a food scale, and it is just under 470 grams, so about the 465 that Archos specifies for this model, and a lot less than the 1.4 pounds (635g) the Staples listing has. No plate in mine? Not seeing the screen "warp" issues.
Also, Staples specifies 8.9" sceen, but my measurement is about 7.9" (which makes sense as the visible part of an 8" inch screen as specified on the Archos site, and what this model is listed at "everywhere".
Lesson: don't take Staples' specs at face value!
Was there ever a 4GB internal storage variant?
Yes. Sorry for oversight. I only meant to say what I said for step 4. Step 3 is phone dependent. I had to do that on my old windows phone and the old 5IT. With g9 with Motorola zoom and nokia c3 I did not have to do anything else. Cheers!
rokkywoof said:
At this point, all I can suggest is focus on getting your phone's ICS to work. Are there any other settings for Network Connection than "Internet GPRS"? If so, you might want to try them to see if that gets any better results (or at least informative messages that might provide any useful clues).
Do you (or a willing friend) have any other devices with Bluetooth that can network via PAN? If so, see what results you get with them.
As for the G9 settings, when I go to the Bluetooth settings, the phone, in my list of paired devices, has a settings button (the same 3 horizontal lines with "blips" on them as used for the main overall Archos settings button image, only smaller), and when I tap that, it shows a "Profiles" section with option for "internet access" that takes a check mark to activate - do you see that on your G9? Even so, if the phone is throwing that NAP error, I doubt that will make any difference, but at least see if it is available.
BTW, I updated to the 4.0.7 "firmware", so that makes no difference on my G9 80.
HTH,
R
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Hmmmm.... my Phones ICS works like a charm as the Internet-Access for a DELL-Notebook via Bluetooth. I paired the devices, started ICS on the phone and told the notebook to use this connection for network access.
That is what I am missing on the g9: I have the settings button for my phone on the g9 bluetooth menu as well as you have it. But when I click it, I only have 2 items to choose:
1. Rename the paired device name (thats my phone)
2. Unpair devices
A "profile" item does not exist :-(
(I do not know the exact notation because I use a german g9)
BTW, I am on 4.0.7 firmware as well...
Thanks again for your time in helping me out,
Marti
mrmartischmi said:
Hmmmm.... my Phones ICS works like a charm as the Internet-Access for a DELL-Notebook via Bluetooth. I paired the devices, started ICS on the phone and told the notebook to use this connection for network access.
That is what I am missing on the g9: I have the settings button for my phone on the g9 bluetooth menu as well as you have it. But when I click it, I only have 2 items to choose:
1. Rename the paired device name (thats my phone)
2. Unpair devices
A "profile" item does not exist :-(
(I do not know the exact notation because I use a german g9)
BTW, I am on 4.0.7 firmware as well...
Thanks again for your time in helping me out,
Marti
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Ah - so the phone is proven to work with ICS - good data point.
That, along with the facts that ICS is throwing the missing NAP message, and the G9 not showing an Internet connection option for the pairing with the phone, suggest the possibility that the pairing went the "wrong way" - i.e., the phone is looking to the G9 for services instead of the other way around.
Try this:
1. Unpair the devices.
2. Start ICS on the phone. See if it will "connect" - if not, ok.
3. Make the phone BT visible.
4. Initiate pairing from the G9.
5. Now see if the G9 has an internet connection option for the phone BT.
If not, I am totally stumped.
If so, try it (start ICS connection if it would not start in step 2)!
Good luck!
HTH
mrmartischmi said:
Hmmmm.... my Phones ICS works like a charm as the Internet-Access for a DELL-Notebook via Bluetooth. I paired the devices, started ICS on the phone and told the notebook to use this connection for network access.
That is what I am missing on the g9: I have the settings button for my phone on the g9 bluetooth menu as well as you have it. But when I click it, I only have 2 items to choose:
1. Rename the paired device name (thats my phone)
2. Unpair devices
A "profile" item does not exist :-(
(I do not know the exact notation because I use a german g9)
BTW, I am on 4.0.7 firmware as well...
Thanks again for your time in helping me out,
Marti
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Sorry to say a lot of phones are not working with this bluetooth tethering built into HOneycomb and ICS. You will need to use Android Pdanet for tablet in combination with it's associate phone app. Unfortunately that's only available on Android. Not Symbian or Windows. Even the Nokia phones which worked fine with the Archos Bluetooth Tethering App on Gen8, are not working with the ICS Builtin version. For a while I had thought Archos did not include this option until one day I noticed I can pair my tablet with a Motorolla Zoom. Then I a couple of phones I knew worked with BT Tethering in Gen8 and they did not work with my G9 tablet. But I tried Nokia C2 and it worked. I looke into finding what profile was needed on the phone side beside DUN or PAN...but I did not find what mande the difference between the Nokia C2 and Nokia E71. E71 worked fine with Archos BT Tethering on Gen 8. So did Nokia 5230 Nuron. But both would not work with G9. The only I've come up with is the BT version of the phone. Both C2 and Zoom have BT 3.0 Tried my Samsung Exhibit II but it would not work. Samsung Galaxy Blaze 4G and HTC Amaze 4G and they work.
I think old phones with BT version less than 2.1 won't work. Not sure why.
you can follow some of the discussions I've had with another Archos member here
http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=64440
http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=57219&hilit=+Tethering
I have an old Nokia E71 myself and the rooted 4.0.6 firmware on my 101g9 tablet. In the bluetooth options on the tablet for my phone all I get are the options to rename or unpair the phone. No other options at all.
I know the E71 has the DUN profile in it. I CAN successfully use the dun profile but I have to use the command line to do it all. BUT you have to have rooted your tablet as you wont be able to use some of the commands otherwise.
You have to bind the channel the phone is using for DUN (switches between 2 and 4 oddly enough on my phone) to /dev/rfcomm then start ppp manually from the command line.
Some programs will NOT recognize the active ppp connection as a valid internet connection. The standard browser will work just fine though. I use Opera Mini for browsing to help keep my data usage down while using the tethering.
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I just got my Touch Pro yesterday. When I ordered it I went ahead and added tethering. With my 6800/Titan/Mogul, I was able to tether via bluetooth no problem with a custom ROM that added "internet sharing".
The only way to tether via bluetooth on the Touch Pro stock ROM is via "Modem Link". I got it working fine on Vista. But my work laptop I commute an hour to work each way, is the MacBook Pro.
I absolutely do not want to use a USB cord as there is not much room when you have someone sitting next to you. So I want to be able to connect, and put the phone back in my pocket.
I've searched hi and low for a solution, but can't find anything useful that actually works.
Any suggestions/step by step walk through on a working solution would be much appreciated!!
Thanks!
go->utilities->bluetooth->add new device->phone....should be self explanatory from there.
nikon858 said:
go->utilities->bluetooth->add new device->phone....should be self explanatory from there.
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No, this does not work. It only holds the connection for 5 to 15 seconds before it fails. It worked great with my Mogul, but I've looked everywhere and can't get it to work with my TP!
yeah same here. i've gotten it to connect a couple times, but then it's only for a for about 5-10 seconds and then disconnects. I just ordered a bluetooth dongle that works with mac osx just to be sure it's not the internal bluetooth on the mac. I could be wrong, but I think the reason it's not stable as my previous phone is because connecting via "internet sharing" created a PAN vs. DUN. On my MacBook Pro it would say "join network on <phone name>" and it would work perfect. Using "modem link" I think is just using the DUN profile. Maybe JETware will expose PAN profile and more profiles? I want to try it, but it looks like it's old software.
well no luck with the bluetooth dongle ordered for the mac as there is no software to install that came with it. plugged it in and the os x bluetooth used the dongle instead of the built in bluetooth hardware. that was the only difference.
But again, I don't think it has anything to do with the Mac. I believe it's just the lack of the PAN profile on the phone. DUN profile works fine on the PC, but sucks on the MAC. At least with Verizon and/or the Touch Pro.
I think I'll remove the tethering package until a custom ROM comes out that enables the PAN profile. Hopefully someone can unlock GPS too. Other than VZW locking down those 2 things, I think the phone is great!
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
"WMWifiRouter instantly turns your wifi enabled smartphone* into a wireless internet hotspot. Now you can use your laptop and any other device with wifi to get online and surf, email, instant message, and anything else you normally use the internet for"
Internet Sharing App: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321393
WOW! Thank you! http://www.wmwifirouter.com Works great. It took a little time to troubleshoot at first. But it's always those quick simple solutions that getcha. I just had to disable the power saving feature. But definitely a cool program worth shelling out $30 for. I had no idea that bluetooth limits bandwidth so much. Through WiFi I'm getting 2,418 kbps down and 516 kbps up. I think with bluetooth I was only able to get like 200-400 kbps down. I also had no idea pocket pc's were capable of acting like a router.
Thanks again. This seems to be the best solution for tethering VZW Touch Pro with a MacBook Pro.
By the way, I also tried the Interent Sharing app. Although it puts the program on your phone, it doesn't enable the PAN profile on the phone. So I'm guessing Verizon's a little smarter than just letting a simple app unlock it. I'm assuming a custom ROM in the future will unlock the PAN profile. Even if it does become unlocked, sharing through WiFi is so much faster that it's not even worth it going through bluetooth.
Anyone successfully tethered an Archos 5 Internet Tablet with Android to Verizon Touch Pro, so as to get that lovely EVDO Rev A displayed on that nice 4.8 inch screen?
I have an old SSK ROM (probably a good year old). I've tried WMWiFiRouter (Bluetooth and WiFi) and ICS (BT) to no avail. All of these work from my Win7 laptop. Bluetooth option requires just pairing; no config at all.
Apparently one issue is that Android (at least the 1.6 Donut on the Archos) can't connect to WiFi in Ad Hoc mode.
Don't know for sure what the BT issue is. Two things do jump out:
1. phone doesn't show NAP or PAN in the supported profiles in BT settings
2. laptop sees DUN as a profile. Archos doesn't show any listed after pairing
Any idea if one of the nice ROMs out there will help?
Thanks!
Kevin
This would make my year if I can get this working..
Archos 5 (fw:1.7.33)
Verizon Touch Pro 2(wm6.5)
When I try to turn the tether on (on the archos), "Dial-up Networking" in the bluetooth settings of the TP2 appears for the duration of it trying to connect. If the DATA Connection is connected, it will disconnect when you attempt to tether and not even try to reconnect.
So.. The phone sees a dial up connection from the bluetooth but theres a missing link between there and it actually dialing out. I tried wmwifirouter.exe but I cant get the bluetooth to work in that.
Weird thing: While tethering was tring to astablish a connection, I opened IE on the TP2 (to manually connect data) and got the Verizon tethering page (yes, on my phone) asking me sign up.. huh?
I heard from my coworkers that it is possible enable Ad-hoc in Android.. anyone try it with the archos?
jdamore said:
This would make my year if I can get this working..
Archos 5 (fw:1.7.33)
Verizon Touch Pro 2(wm6.5)
When I try to turn the tether on (on the archos), "Dial-up Networking" in the bluetooth settings of the TP2 appears for the duration of it trying to connect. If the DATA Connection is connected, it will disconnect when you attempt to tether and not even try to reconnect.
So.. The phone sees a dial up connection from the bluetooth but theres a missing link between there and it actually dialing out. I tried wmwifirouter.exe but I cant get the bluetooth to work in that.
Weird thing: While tethering was tring to astablish a connection, I opened IE on the TP2 (to manually connect data) and got the Verizon tethering page (yes, on my phone) asking me sign up.. huh?
I heard from my coworkers that it is possible enable Ad-hoc in Android.. anyone try it with the archos?
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Actually, with the latest Archos firmware (1.7.71? last week), it works great for me. After updating, I unpaired and repaired the devices. I use Internet Connection Sharing with BT, and use Archos Tether, and it works quite nicely. The power control widget is helpful here too; sometimes I need to power-cycle the Archos BT, then turn on tether, to get it to work.
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I use Internet Connection Sharing with BT, and use Archos Tether, and it works quite nicely.
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Internet Connection Sharing is a program/setting? Or are you just saying you share internet through bluetooth.. Sorry just being thorough.
haha I'm not surprised there has been an update since 1.7.33. Hopefully that will fix my random reboots.. Ill report later tonight if the update to 1.7.71 helps. Thanks!
jdamore said:
Internet Connection Sharing is a program/setting? Or are you just saying you share internet through bluetooth.. Sorry just being thorough.
haha I'm not surprised there has been an update since 1.7.33. Hopefully that will fix my random reboots.. Ill report later tonight if the update to 1.7.71 helps. Thanks!
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Internet Connection Sharing is a standard Microsoft WinMo program, but it is often dropped from carrier phones. It's pretty easy to find online.
WMWiFiRouter likely also should work in BT mode with 1.7.71, but I haven't tried it.
Kevin.. I'm being an idiot. You have the touch pro and I have the touch pro 2.
Bluetooth on wmwifirouter and on ICS (maybe i have the wrong ICS) seem to be not supported on the TP2. The only options is wifi/usb with wifirouter and usb with ICS
I'm assuming I need a program like those two that will work with bluetooth? I get the message on the TP2 "this device is attempting to connect to the internet" and I accept but still nothing... is this where wifirouter and ics come into play?
BT for ICS and WMWiFiRouter on TP2 vs TP
Odd that ICS and WMWiFiRouter should have less functionality on TP2 WinMo 6.5 than on TP WinMo 6.1...
Maybe you'll want to ping Morose Media (WMWiFiRouter folks) to see if they have any thoughts, as well as ask general ICS question on this site.
What version of WMWiFiRouter (I have 1.25, build 600) do you have?
And where di you get your ICS?
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Odd that ICS and WMWiFiRouter should have less functionality on TP2 WinMo 6.5 than on TP WinMo 6.1...
Maybe you'll want to ping Morose Media (WMWiFiRouter folks) to see if they have any thoughts, as well as ask general ICS question on this site.
What version of WMWiFiRouter (I have 1.25, build 600) do you have?
And where di you get your ICS?
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Oh, I see the following on WMWiFiRouter page. Too bad. Another reason to hold off getting TP2 .
# HTC Touch Pro 2
* AT&T Tilt 2
* HTC Rhodium
* Sprint Touch Pro 2
* Support from version 1.50. Sharing using Bluetooth not currently supported.
Odd that ICS and WMWiFiRouter should have less functionality on TP2 WinMo 6.5 than on TP WinMo 6.1...
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I tried it with both WM6.1 and WM6.5 and its the same thing.
What version of WMWiFiRouter (I have 1.25, build 600) do you have?
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Running 1.6
There must be something unique about the BT on the TP2. Is there a reg hack that Morose Media hasn't even found yet? I'll write to support and see if they have any comments.
And where di you get your ICS?
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sorry i'm a noob.. I cant post links yet but its from ppcgeeks[dot]com
I hope there will be an update for wmwifi.
Might be easier to hack ad-hoc onto the Archos.. know anything about that lol?
jdamore said:
I hope there will be an update for wmwifi.
Might be easier to hack ad-hoc onto the Archos.. know anything about that lol?
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You may want to check out the following thread. I think some of the Android users (e.g. G1) folks may have made some progress, but I don't know if that was on client or server side.
I wrote to morose about the TP2.. heres what they said:
We are looking into supporting the new non-Microsoft Bluetooth stack that comes with the new HTC devices, however unfortunately I cannot give you a date when we might have a beta of this available. All I can say is that the development team is working on it.
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As soon as they have it working ill purchase that minute. In the mean time, I'm going to see if I cant get ad-hoc on the archos..
thanks for the help kevin
jdamore said:
I wrote to morose about the TP2.. heres what they said:
As soon as they have it working ill purchase that minute. In the mean time, I'm going to see if I cant get ad-hoc on the archos..
thanks for the help kevin
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My pleasure... Good luck!
By the way, I asked them about supporting multiple devices over bluetooth, and the next day they gave me a prototype that does it, and they say they will put that into the main product. Now that's service! I love it -- much lower power usage and heat than WiFi, and plenty fast enough for my uses. Should run much longer that way. I'm psyched!
I am in the same boat with an archos 5 android tablet, the HTC touch PRO and sprint as a carrier. let me know if you come up with a work around. I'll do the same.
OKay . maybe i miss read all the posts. Its the HD PRO 2 thats having trouble connecting. I just updated to the 1.7.77 which allowed me to change to PAN and i made sure that PAN was selected in WMWIFIROUTER. All of the other things i left blank, and it connected right up showing a tiny cell phone icon next to my bluetooth icon. It was a very happy moment. I love finding those hidden icons.
Archos 5 Programming problem with PAN/DUN
The problem, and no one take this wrong, is that the technicians at Archos are a bunch of backwards idiots. I emailed them, explained to them that, if they would just rewrite the PAN/DUN menu to be selected previous to pairing, the problem would be solved.
My Sprint Touch Pro will do PAN bluetooth (all day long) even upside down but the idiotic software on the Archos 5 isn't smart enough to detect it so you don't get to use the PAN (which they claim is there), all you see is DUN.
I've used PDANet and gotten results but the connection is SO unstable it's just too irritating to bother.
If more people would write Archos, tell them to change the architecture of the tethering, this tablet would be more along the awesome line.
HOWEVER, because of this little quirk, some electronics magazines wrote the Archos 5 as "One of the tablets that should have NEVER been created" and it's gotten a bad rap because of the engineers.
Heck, even the whole GPS issue, they used an independent software from another company to make it work and while it DOES work, it's often slow to lock-in while standing still sometimes.
Basically i saw write in and tell them to change it. PAN is so much easier to deal with. I've had better luck with the G1 and the HERO but the problem is my current phone is using Windows Mobile 6 and they actually removed the DUN some versions ago for some reason i can't explain and the Microsoft tech couldn't tell me either.
You can hack the DUN in with registry tweaks and support software but there's no guarantee it will work.
#777 to start DUN connection?
I know I am late to this party, but on my 3rd AIT 5 (clearance at Best Buy for 150, but I got open box unit for 125) attempting this with XV6800, and now a new Imagio that tethers (Verizon) just fine with Linux/WinXP/Nokia N810.
The thing I have found with DUN is that it requires the tethered device (PC/AIT/etc) to send the #777 to connect, then authenticate with <phone number>@vzw3g.com for Id, and password of vzw. The tethering setup on the AIT appears to let you do the Id/Password part, but I see no way to get the #777 sent in the first place. Has anyone figured out that part?
TIA
RO
Hi all,
Just wondering how to setup wi-fi direct? I've gone into the menu and enabled it, hit scan, but it doesn't find either of my 2 laptops.
Do the laptops have to be wi-fi direct certified as well or is there some sort of configuration I have to do to make them available to the phone?
Ohkuni said:
Hi all,
Just wondering how to setup wi-fi direct? I've gone into the menu and enabled it, hit scan, but it doesn't find either of my 2 laptops.
Do the laptops have to be wi-fi direct certified as well or is there some sort of configuration I have to do to make them available to the phone?
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i wish i knew mate, i'm pestering people to find out myself. nobody seems interested. i was linked this video, but the guy is hard to understand and it doesn't work in the way he demonstrates it on my laptop. maybe his is wifi direct certified - thats not really clear ether. have a look anyway, maybe you can figure something out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mv-XFZmwNA
wi-wfi direkt is disabled on newer devices by samsung.......... because they have problems with licenses
I use wifi direct to send files from my phone to my friend's phone (he also has the Galaxy S II). Works perfectly and is really fast.
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I use wifi direct to send files from my phone to my friend's phone (he also has the Galaxy S II). Works perfectly and is really fast.
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The question is how? A step by step guide would be appreciated.
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The question is how? A step by step guide would be appreciated.
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Hope this helps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCEawDprnOQ
So I guess both devices must be wi-fi direct certified, because my phone doesn't pickup my laptop at all (which is about 3 years old).
Intel Wifi dashboard
there is a programm called intel wifi dashboard , this program enables wifi direct on laptop and then your laptop will be discovered by GSII
WIFI direct is like a private network between your laptop and your GS2 or just 2 GS2 that enables you to transfer files up to 1 Gb in size in just 2 or 3 mins ( i tried it myself by sending a 730 mb wmv file ) without the need of setting up a wireless network
and obviously it's much more faster and effiecent than bluetooth
Has anyone managed to transfer files between Galaxy S2, Galaxy S3 and PC using Intel Dashboard?
I can get my Samsung SMART TV to detect my Android Phone
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Has anyone managed to transfer files between Galaxy S2, Galaxy S3 and PC using Intel Dashboard?
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Okay, so I just rooted my phone and flashed a new ROM and it has Wifi-Direct option on it which basically, you just tick to enable and cannot configure. Since my Samsung SMART TV was wifi-Direct certified, I opened the Wifi-Direct Menu and it just detected my phone. It told me that I could either connect by pushing the Wifi-Direct Button on my Device (PBS Way) or by entering the TV-generated PIN on my Device( PIN Way). But I cannot see a "Enter the PIN" Notification pop up on my Android Device. Let me try a Third-Party App and lets see how it goes.
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Okay, so I just rooted my phone and flashed a new ROM and it has Wifi-Direct option on it which basically, you just tick to enable and cannot configure. Since my Samsung SMART TV was wifi-Direct certified, I opened the Wifi-Direct Menu and it just detected my phone. It told me that I could either connect by pushing the Wifi-Direct Button on my Device (PBS Way) or by entering the TV-generated PIN on my Device( PIN Way). But I cannot see a "Enter the PIN" Notification pop up on my Android Device. Let me try a Third-Party App and lets see how it goes.
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i am also facing same error
There's an app called Superbeam, that works on android, mac, windows and linux. I use it to transfer files between my Nexus 5, a Galaxy Tab2 and my PC. it works great.
XDA thread: SuperBeam
just like the title states. you know the .21 update made this feature available to us. yet, many reported at first not being able to get it to work. I haven't seen anyone mention this subject since then. I can't get it to work or might not be activating it properly.
if someone got it working, what exactly did you do? do both devices need to have Wifi Direct or only one device(official description from wifi direct says only one device is needed but just checking)? this feature can be very useful for file transferring. etc.. So if no one has not gotten this working, then this issue needs to be brought up to Asus(which I have already mentioned to Gary).
I haven't been able to figure it out either. I turn it on in the TFP settings, then try to connect to my Nexus but when I turn it on in the Nexus settings, it then turns off on the TFP. Vice versa when I go to turn it back on in the Nexus settings the TFP turns off. Half baked inplementation or something..
the most i have had happen is that a buddies nexus phone recognized that my tab was avaliable for connection, but from what i understand, there is a software (developer not manufacturer) issue that hasn't been addressed yet to manage that ad-hoc connection.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA
it might be safe to say no one here has really gotten it to work or had enough interest in it to try. thing is Gary told me his works just fine. He said they were trying to recreate the issue but I'm not sure if they were able to or not. I also feel like it was never fully implemented or something is missing in the software. According to the official advertising for it, its supposed to be seamless and easy to activate and use with other devices. i cant get it to work at all really. Based on what I've seen that this technology/feature is capable of, this is something i really want to work. It could make things alot easier and more efficient.
WiFi Direct really only works between two WiFi Direct devices.. it's kind of like Bluetooth but uses an adhoc like connection.
But now that you mention it - I just realised my Nexus also does WiFi Direct... sooo...
Give me a few minutes and I'll see if I can make this do anything useful.
BRB...
Short version - they added the WiFi Direct API, but no actual support for it - unlike in Bada which has a client built into the OS.
In theory, if someone writes an app that supports WiFi Direct connections for file sharing and printing, it will do something useful.. right now.. not so much.
There is, however a Demo WiFiDi app set...
http://developer.android.com/resources/samples/WiFiDirectDemo/index.html
Wifi Direct
I have a Galaxy Tab 7.7 and a Galaxy Note. Wifi direct is available on these devices, and it works brilliantly - I can move a 800mb short film between the devices in about 60 seconds, mp3 files are near instantaneous. I have tried both with the Prime, but the devices fail to handover the connection to completness, eventhough the prime is recognised. On the samsung devices, you get a confirmation of connection, or in file managers and app you get an additional 'send to' option of 'wifi', then you select the target device, accept on the receiving unit and off it goes. what is needed is for Asus to write the pairing part of the handover. Question though is can a prime 'see' a prime. I dont have two so cannot check!
My SGS2 has wifi direct I can connect it with my prime for a short period and then the prime turns off wifi direct. It doesnt stay connected long enough for me to test anything.
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I have a Galaxy Tab 7.7 and a Galaxy Note. Wifi direct is available on these devices, and it works brilliantly - I can move a 800mb short film between the devices in about 60 seconds, mp3 files are near instantaneous. I have tried both with the Prime, but the devices fail to handover the connection to completness, eventhough the prime is recognised. On the samsung devices, you get a confirmation of connection, or in file managers and app you get an additional 'send to' option of 'wifi', then you select the target device, accept on the receiving unit and off it goes. what is needed is for Asus to write the pairing part of the handover. Question though is can a prime 'see' a prime. I dont have two so cannot check!
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Nope. As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the way of status or connection management or reporting on the Prime for WiFi Direct. The few videos I've seen of it working are on Samsung devices - so it looks like Samsung went the extra mile to include it in the system and make it useful.
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Nope. As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the way of status or connection management or reporting on the Prime for WiFi Direct. The few videos I've seen of it working are on Samsung devices - so it looks like Samsung went the extra mile to include it in the system and make it useful.
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I was in the Transformer forum and they just received an update a day or 2 ago. Here I'd the change log someone posted for the TF101:
9.2.1.21 Change log:
1. Improved system stability
2. Updated Email App
3. Updated App Backup App
4. Updated MyLibrary App
5. Added WiFi Direct Support
6. Added unzipping functionality to File Manager
7. Added ability to revert to last working state in the browser
I'm wondering if Asus added what we need to get WiFi Direct working and it will come to us in our next update. I have to wait for the updated ROM for my Transformer so I can't check it for myself.
i had to return my first one due to pic quality. neither that one or new one has functioning wifi direct. i emailed asus, and they said sounds like faulty wifi hardware and i should rma it back. if it truly is faulty, i have best buy replacement protection. tablets were different SN lines, so im wondering what i should do. it seems nobody can get theirs working.
I tried wifi direct as well with ICS 4.0.4 on E4GT which i believe, isn't Samsung's "psuedo" wifi direct seen previously in the 2.4+ builds.
The E4GT can see the prime when it scans. When it tries to connect, the Prime user should be notified, asked to accept the connection, and then both devices "handshake" and stay connected.
When I try to connect, the E4GT just states it's waiting for Prime to connect. No connect here for me in previous testing (although I'm on .15 now so this is irrevelant). Just speaking from previous experience. Prime needs some sort of notification. Seems like libraries are on prime just no connection handshake or connection implementation.
Btw, Prime never sees my E4GT, just vice versa.
Ask Gary what device he had success with? I'd love someone to chime in who has 2 primes....phree perhaps? Erusman?
When I was trying the Wifi direct transfer on the TF300, I can't found the transfer icon of wifi direct, the choose icon only ' blue tooth, gmail, webstorage...' that without wifi direct.
I really don't know how to send the file from TF300 to S2 without the wifi direct icon.
conversely, S2 send the file to TF300, the status was holding in transfer, after they recognized.
I sent an email asking the wifi problem to Asus, but they replied that the problem transfer to other department already, and give me notice when future information'. The email over 10 days, I don't believe they have future information in shortly.
I also used an USB to linking both S2 and TF300, but TF300 seems can't recognize the S2, not any device was found.
Now, I only through the PC to make them communication which is TF300, S2 and PC linking together, then using the PC control file transfer. But it is not convenience.
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Question though is can a prime 'see' a prime. I dont have two so cannot check!
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I have a Prime (with most recent .28 update), and my son a TF300 - and they "see" each other. Both devices go through the connection process of "inviting" and "accepting", but as has been stated - there is no option to send files via wifi even though they are supposedly connected.
ASUS only added the WiFi Direct baseline in the ICS .21. It did not had any settings to be made such 'connect to' OR send an invite to the surrounding WiFi devices also waiting for an Ad-Hoc connection. My Laptop keeps on waiting for other devices to connect. And why shouldn't it? There's nothing one can do on TFP then to simply Turn ON and OFF WiFi direct.
Somebody needs to make a WiFi Ad-Hoc Manager UI or APP from where different devices can see each other and send-receive direct connection requests.
Big leap to ICS .28 with just 'inviting' and 'accepting' and not able to send files. ASUS could have updated their ROM for full functionality. They are playing version by version !
Unfortunately, there is no market app available for the same to date.
CM9
Has any one tried wifi direct with CM9?
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Has any one tried wifi direct with CM9?
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I dont see wifi direct on CM9 (At least on my phone, sorry, forgot which forum I was on. Can't unlock or test on the TF Prime, sigh.)
Hey Guys,
first post here, so hopefully i don't do anything wrong
Got myself a Freelander PX1 Tablet with Android 4.2.1. Unfortunately I am stuck while trying to use my phone's internet connection via bluetooth. From what it looks like my android system is missing the Private Area Network PAN client support. (no /system/bin/pand)
Is there any way to 'install' this? As the tablet also does not recognize ad-hoc wifi spots I am unable to go online
Thanks!
Cheers
-Daniel
anyone?
I'm wondering the same thing. I just managed to pair an older Lenovo A1 Gingerbread 2.3.4 with a Galaxy S4 JellyBean/CyanogenMod 10.2 by having them pair, then the phone turn on Bluetooth tether (which Gingerbread doesn't support), and connect to the PAN from the tablet using pand.
This works but it's a complete pain that JellyBean doesn't have pand anymore!? Meaning I can't hope to repeat this with 2 JellyBean devices, only older and newer, or some set of in-the-middle Android versions...
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I'm wondering the same thing. I just managed to pair an older Lenovo A1 Gingerbread 2.3.4 with a Galaxy S4 JellyBean/CyanogenMod 10.2 by having them pair, then the phone turn on Bluetooth tether (which Gingerbread doesn't support), and connect to the PAN from the tablet using pand.
This works but it's a complete pain that JellyBean doesn't have pand anymore!? Meaning I can't hope to repeat this with 2 JellyBean devices, only older and newer, or some set of in-the-middle Android versions...
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sorry to hear that at least that means its not my fault^^
Ok! I happen to have this this post open in my browser so I thought I would share in my success, however obvious it is.
I managed to get a hold of a 2nd JB device. I tested this with 2 Samsung S4s. On the "master" device go into settings -> Network More... -> Tethering- > Enable Bluetooth sharing. Don't do this on the other device. Then pair the devices like normal. The end device should automatically tether through the 1st "master" device. You'll see a BT icon with brackets around it in the system tray. The BT icon will be lit blue on both devices.
If you get into the adb shell and have iwconfig around, on both devices you'll see a new network called "bt-pan". The "master" device will be a .1 (e.g. 192.168.40.1) while the "slave" will be given a DHCP address from the "master". (e.g. 192.168.40.124)
The "pand" tool set is not longer needed. You can just pair normally with newer devices. If you're pairing an older Android device that has bluetooth but not the bluetooth tether option in setting, like my Lenovo A1 GingerBread (which I keep for testing), you'll need to manually using pand to setup the PAN. There are apps that will do this for you.
Hope this helps.