Online petition: Coutries excluded from GPS Dongle - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

Hello all.
We all know that ASUS is shipping a dongle to fix GPS performances on Transformer Primes. Unfortunately, some countries were left out from this decision, that to me and other users seems just unfair.
We all spent our moneys (and not just two cents) to get our Primes; hence, ASUS should treat us the same not discriminating us by our nationality.
So, I'm opening this thread to gather all users that feels frustrated by this decision (that every ASUS national department takes on its own) to organize, sign a spread an online petition directed to ASUS Global and every single ASUS National department in order to make them review their decision. My idea is to write a letter in english, plus every language that will be involved in the petition. I can write the Italian one and contribute to the English one, but for other languages (Greek, Icelandic and others if present) I will need help.
So, is anyone with me?

When the prime got available to the excluded countries, Asus had already removed the GPS function of the spec sheet of the prime.
Therefore, the excluded countries have prime's 'without' GPS.
Other countries who's getting the dongle had GPS on the spec sheet on release date.

brantje said:
When the prime got available to the excluded countries, Asus had already removed the GPS function of the spec sheet of the prime.
Therefore, the excluded countries have prime's 'without' GPS.
Other countries who's getting the dongle had GPS on the spec sheet on release date.
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Not true. Many countries (European for sure) are getting the dongle even if the Prime was sold only with the GPS already removed. Moreover, many bought on preorder before the GPS was removed. Plus, the GPS was removed but we paid the same price of a unit with the GPS still declared, so our money should have the same value.

Did you see the post with the 2011 email addresses of the asus public relations staff - one @asus.it and the other @asus.com http://milandesignweek2011.asus.com/archives/. They could still be live

peterk-1 said:
Did you see the post with the 2011 email addresses of the asus public relations staff - one @asus.it and the other @asus.com http://milandesignweek2011.asus.com/archives/. They could still be live
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Good catch. We will see when we decide the recepients.

cm0901 said:
Not true. Many countries (European for sure) are getting the dongle even if the Prime was sold only with the GPS already removed. Moreover, many bought on preorder before the GPS was removed. Plus, the GPS was removed but we paid the same price of a unit with the GPS still declared, so our money should have the same value.
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Thanks for the info, didn't know that.
But yes, agree, every country should get the dongle.

They agree with you I agree to the petition.

On the Gps dongle application page Asus states the following:
Although the TF201 is not a professional GPS device, as part of our unwavering commitment to our customers we are offering all customers who purchased a TF201 system a free external GPS extension kit, called a dongle, which may help improve signal reception and optimize the user experience.
So we should go for the petiton ,very good idea as it states all customers!

I am here too. I hate the fact that they do not respect us.
Besides i bought mine on Amazon UK in January!!! Why would UK customers get it and not me?
Well this is racism to me because i am Greek and disrespect to me as a customer!
SHAME!

Which countries aren't getting it?

AdyCarter said:
Which countries aren't getting it?
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Greece, Italy, Iceland.....
But even 1 would be already tooooo many!

kaixis said:
Greece, Italy, Iceland.....
But even 1 would be already tooooo many!
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Agreed, I just hadn't seen a list and was curious.
Thank you

AdyCarter said:
Which countries aren't getting it?
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Greece, Italy, Iceland.....
But even 1 would be already tooooo many!

Iceland here, mine is hopefully shipping to Denmark and then to Iceland. Ridiculous that I need to pay for the shipping from Denmark to Iceland.

kaixis said:
I am here too. I hate the fact that they do not respect us.
Besides i bought mine on Amazon UK in January!!! Why would UK customers get it and not me?
Well this is racism to me because i am Greek and disrespect to me as a customer!
SHAME!
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While Asus' stance on which countries and exactly how it's determined does seem rather arbitrary, your criticism seems unfounded. In your case, it doesn't have anything to do with where you're located other than you're outside the country you purchased it from. As I understand it, your tablet is eligible for the GPS dongle, except that you would have to supply a UK address. Surely no different than if I bought something from a Greek retailer where I wouldn't automatically expect them to deliver anywhere else other than within their own country. Perhaps you can find someone to forward it onto you in Greece or alternatively make use of a UK dropship resource such My UK Mail.
Robert

i bought prime because i saw that they decided to fix gps issue with this extension.. And then this... Greek user here.. Very disappointed!

rwniel said:
While Asus' stance on which countries and exactly how it's determined does seem rather arbitrary, your criticism seems unfounded. In your case, it doesn't have anything to do with where you're located other than you're outside the country you purchased it from. As I understand it, your tablet is eligible for the GPS dongle, except that you would have to supply a UK address. Surely no different than if I bought something from a Greek retailer where I wouldn't automatically expect them to deliver anywhere else other than within their own country. Perhaps you can find someone to forward it onto you in Greece or alternatively make use of a UK dropship resource such My UK Mail.
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This will be my next option if they decide not to ship it in Italy. But I hope that, when my request will be reject, I can reapply with a different address.

They dont have a concrete list of coutries (sic) on the web page. Does not mean they are not offering it. More likely a programming mistake.
My Prime was purchased in the Netherlands, and I am being offered the kit here in South Africa.

Similar story here!!!
Just bought mine (2 weeks ago) regularly in store for European $$$ of money
Live in Macedonia and obviously not in the list, too
I've wanted to ask if there's a solution to "trick them" and order it from Toronto-Canada
Have some relatives there so they can bring it in a month or so !?
пратено преку Transformer PRIME TF-201 + dock ;-)

DONGLE
GOOD NEWS!!!!
They called me from Asus four days ago, saying that my dongle will arrive soon here in GREECE!!!
My status had changed one day earlier to "being processed".
Asus did'nt forget us poor relatives after all!
Thanks ASUS! No less would be accepted from this company.

Related

[Q] Preordering/Buying the Prime from abroad:

Hi I am an Ipad user who is eager to move to the transformer Prime.
I would appreciate any advice regarding the following doubt I have.
You must be aware of the increase in price when asus "converts" the USD to Euros or Pounds. So I have been considering the option to buy the pad in the US and wait for the Spanish keyboard.
I have contacted several official sellers and they can mail me the tablet all right. However they do not provide many details regarding, how much the official taxes will be.
I also know that companies, like "Unibox" for sudamerica, are available to receive your product in the US and mail it to you for a price.
I wonder if anyone who has bought a phone or tablet in the US from Europe could share their experience with us.
Delosari said:
Hi I am an Ipad user who is eager to move to the transformer Prime.
I would appreciate any advice regarding the following doubt I have.
You must be aware of the increase in price when asus "converts" the USD to Euros or Pounds. So I have been considering the option to buy the pad in the US and wait for the Spanish keyboard.
I have contacted several official sellers and they can mail me the tablet all right. However they do not provide many details regarding, how much the official taxes will be.
I also know that companies, like "Unibox" for sudamerica, are available to receive your product in the US and mail it to you for a price.
I wonder if anyone who has bought a phone or tablet in the US from Europe could share their experience with us.
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I'm spanish and have bought the prime from amazon.de (i know german). Just the tablet, and will wait for the spanish dock to be on sale, because after contacting every retailer i know in spain, everyone has said "no info/not allowed to say" or "late january or even february" about spanish prime release date. For waiting the same time to get tablet + dock, without knowing where i will be able to buy, or what versions, i already ordered the german tablet and will wait with the tablet in my hands for the spanish dock, which should be in almost every retailer by the time it comes out.
Delosari said:
You must be aware of the increase in price when asus "converts" the USD to Euros or Pounds.
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In my country:
599 USD = 2040 PLN + 23% VAT = 2512PLN
The price is said by ASUS Polska to be 2699 PLN. So it's quite close. Shops will sell it for 2499 in a few weeks.
darth_suicune said:
I'm spanish and have bought the prime from amazon.de (i know german). Just the tablet, and will wait for the spanish dock to be on sale, because after contacting every retailer i know in spain, everyone has said "no info/not allowed to say" or "late january or even february" about spanish prime release date. For waiting the same time to get tablet + dock, without knowing where i will be able to buy, or what versions, i already ordered the german tablet and will wait with the tablet in my hands for the spanish dock, which should be in almost every retailer by the time it comes out.
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Gracias
I guess I now have two reasons to buy it from another country...
Magnesus said:
In my country:
599 USD = 2040 PLN + 23% VAT = 2512PLN
The price is said by ASUS Polska to be 2699 PLN. So it's quite close. Shops will sell it for 2499 in a few weeks.
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That is very a interesting thing to know... I am glad to hear that in Poland you do not let international companies steal from you
The price in Sweden will initially be ~888USD including tax for 32gb champange with dock. (Only model that will be released in january)

I preordered, but is this a legit site?

Expansys is where I got my pre-order. I've never heard of them. I've heard of B&H, J&R, Best Buy, Newegg, and Gamestop having access to preorders, but who are these guys? They seemed legit so I gave them my preorder info. Any thoughts?
I don't think I've ever ordered with them, though if by "legit" you mean if they're real OR a scam in terms of a business, they seem to be an established business.
Site: http://www.expansys-usa.com/ (them, right?)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/eXpansys-USA/336647714042
Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/expansysUSA
Reviews: https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=expansys+reviews
If by "legit" you mean they can deliver your Prime by Christmas or this month, that's something you'll find out on the receipt OR your order info, or by calling them. Hopefully someone else here can shed more light for you. (was there a reason you chose them and not the other companies you knew about already? like a special or something?)
Expansys is big for imported phones so they're definately legit. Their inventory systems are archaic and all communication is done manually. They keep bankers hours so they're hard to get in touch with. I'd say they're a poor choice for the Prime because they don't do a lot of business with Asus and communicating with them for a product that's touch-and-go will have you ripping your hair out. If companies that have sold a lot of Asus product in the past are having trouble with inventory I can't see how Expansys would fare any better.
Well, I chose them because they were the only company that still had pre-orders available.
I've heard of all the delays. I don't expect to be seeing my Prime before 2012 . Reeeeeally wish I hadn't sold my laptop/eReader preemptively....
With all the hype around this device, I just wondered if anyone had experience buying electronics from this company because I'd never heard of them before. Not only was I wondering about them as a business, I was wondering about how far down the totem pole they may be.
Thanks for the replies.
BarryH_GEG said:
Expansys is big for imported phones so they're definately legit. Their inventory systems are archaic and all communication is done manually. They keep bankers hours so they're hard to get in touch with. I'd say they're a poor choice for the Prime because they don't do a lot of business with Asus and communicating with them for a product that's touch-and-go will have you ripping your hair out. If companies that have sold a lot of Asus product in the past are having trouble with inventory I can't see how Expansys would fare any better.
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Ahh BarryH, thank you!
they are definitely a legit company, everything is based in the UK though but they are the place to go for imported phones, my friend ordered his S II from their because when it first came out that was like the only place but yes they will not steal your money or anything
My concern is that they dont metion the model number, and they dont show a picture of it and being that there the same name the first and second generation I think there selling the first ones.
ipswitch said:
My concern is that they dont metion the model number, and they dont show a picture of it and being that there the same name the first and second generation I think there selling the first ones.
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That doesn't make sense because the new one is Transformer PRIME. (which is clearly on the order page and title) The new one also comes in two colors while the original only had one.
The order page also describes the Transformer Prime.

ASUS Offers FULL REFUND to TF201 users ... in UK???

so i guess this confirms they really wont be issuing any sort of fix or solution?
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Asus-UK-Transformer-Prime-Refund-New-Model-TF700,14516.html
Misleading title is misleading. They're just saying if you don't like it, return it to the shop you purchased it, something you can do by Law. The only thing Asus are offering is an extension to the warranty.
Just curious... did you even read the article?
Asus is not offering refund, they are recommending people who are not happy with WiFi/GPS performance to return them to retailers.
arrrgh said:
Just curious... did you even read the article?
Asus is not offering refund, they are recommending people who are not happy with WiFi/GPS performance to return them to retailers.
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Lmao I was thinking same thing OP fails.
Has anyone rang asus to take the extended warranty? I have and they dont know anything about it!
What about us in the United States? Do we get an extended warranty? It feels like, other than in Taiwan, the US was doing a bunch of beta testing on this thing.
That article basically says that the Wifi Issues will be fixed for the UK Version, but what about versions that have already been released?
How exactly is it misleading?
the company is now offering another alternative: A full refund. The company today said that extensive checks have confirmed that no units with WiFi issues have been supplied to customers in the UK, it is willing to refund customers that are still unhappy with their device.
"After extensive checks we can confirm that no units have been supplied to the UK with a known WiFi issue. Any customers experiencing WiFi issues specifically are advised to contact our support hotline on 0870 1208 340," Asus UK said. "Any customers who have purchased a Transformer Prime TF201 and are dissatisfied with the performance of the GPS module are advised to return the unit to their point of purchase for a full refund as per standard consumer rights that apply in the UK."
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The article specifically says ASUS is offering a full refund.
The article says ASUS is asking customers who are dissatisfied, to take it back to their place of purchase.
Who says they haven't reached out to the retailers and instructed to offer full refunds, outside of the store policy?
And who the hell knows what "consumer rights as they apply in the UK" means?
I wish people would stop being so quick to judge posters. The link i posted may or may not be accurate, but no need to flame. Im not here trying to stir up ****, im trying to share info i came across.
Thank you.
PS, this article proves to me, more than anything, that ASUS has no intention of offering any solution to the weak wifi ... which pisses me off because otherwise i am in love with my tablet.
and yes, for a while i was hopeful that they would make some statement about it, offering some solution or cheap fix.
I dont want a refund, or a credit, money is not the issue .. i just want this tablet to have better wifi signal, that is all
So I just checked if there were any firmware updates available and there was one! Does anyone know what it does? Obviously I'm hoping it'll fix the rebooting issue but I'm wondering if anyone else has gotten it yet.
Edit: Whoops, I posted this to the wrong thread. I'd delete this post but I'm not sure if I'm able to.
rsarno said:
How exactly is it misleading?
The article specifically says ASUS is offering a full refund.
The article says ASUS is asking customers who are dissatisfied, to take it back to their place of purchase.
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And who the hell knows what "consumer rights as they apply in the UK" means?
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In the Uk we have a number of consumer protections.
One is the distance selling regs which give peeps who buy a new Product (excepting opened software, mucic media or things like pants (underwear for our friends over the pond) earings etc where there is a hygiene element) a minimum of 7 days to look at a product and try it out (there are expectations to keep the original packaging and to look after the goods) and decide to keep it or return it.
Another consumer protection is the Consumer Protection act which protects all purchasers of goods and this protects consumers by stating that goods should be fit for purpose, this protection should last (a very subjective) for a reasonable life of the item and if a fault is found in the first six months the consumer should have the right for that item to be treated as if the fault was present at the point of sale. (it is not always easy to force this issue but there are remedies) so for example a Television that dies after 18 months could fall under this legislation as it would be reasonable for a TV to last longer than 18 months.
Another area in which we might be different is that in The UK the contract is between the seller and the purchaser, not between the manufacturer and the end user, so that Asus increasing the length of their warranty is over and above the responsibilities of the seller.
in the UK the grey TFP is as rare as rocking horse sh*t and there are very few outlets that have been able to distribute the TFP with the silver version is as common as a dodo! Asus has in all likelihood been in contact with the company who is distributing the TFP over here and arrangements have been made for the return of faulty TFP's to be made simple.
On another level I do not mind peeps griping about the goods but I get really pee'd of with those who take over the official asus rep started threads in which Asus are looking for patterns of the faults to help them narrow down the problems to work on fixes to vent their spleen: If i was an Asus rep I would be disheartened by this and feel that (I am sure they are working their nuts off) their efforts are not being appreciated and this also has an effect on me and other users; as it makes focussing on those issues all the harder because the likes of Gary are having to wade through a lot of irrelevant posts to get to the meat of the problem, and also some of the posts have been pretty insulting and personal to the point that I have reported a couple. I think Asus are being much more responsive than Apple was over the Iphone having difficulties making calls)
(Sorry for the rant in the previous paragraph but having read the three threads earlier it just had to come out and I was going to post similar on those threads but managed to check myself. It was not pointed at yourself or any individual in particular )
Hope the info on some of our consumer legislation was useful.
As indicated many countries outside the US have customer protection programs and this drives corporate decisions for those countries to make sure customers feel like a company that is getting bad press is trying to resolve the issues. Based on what we are seeing in the last week ASUS is stepping up to the plate in many ways to resolve their problems with the Prime.

WiFi/BT repair/replace Non-USA

I am one of the ones who is having the issue with WiFi/BT. I am in Australia. Based on Gary's note in the thread, I rang the local Asus customer support line.
The agent I spoke to was not aware that Asus is repairing/replacing Prime units. He said there was no repair or replacement program in place. He said he could give me a RMA number but I can only go back to the shop where I bought it and get a new unit except it also would be from the same C1 serial number batch that is being sold in Australia and so I would not necessarily be any better than just keeping my current unit.
He was also not aware that Gary or anyone from Asus are engaging the Prime user community via XDA.
What do I do now?
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I am one of the ones who is having the issue with WiFi/BT. I am in Australia. Based on Gary's note in the thread, I rang the local Asus customer support line.
The agent I spoke to was not aware that Asus is repairing/replacing Prime units. He said there was no repair or replacement program in place. He said he could give me a RMA number but I can only go back to the shop where I bought it and get a new unit except it also would be from the same C1 serial number batch that is being sold in Australia and so I would not necessarily be any better than just keeping my current unit.
He was also not aware that Gary or anyone from Asus are engaging the Prime user community via XDA.
What do I do now?
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I would post this in the WiFi/BT thread .
You should have paid more attention, he specifically said that program was for North American customers only. Non NA customers will have to wait a bit longer.
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You should have paid more attention, he specifically said that program was for North American customers only. Non NA customers will have to wait a bit longer.
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Really? Have you even read his post? There is nothing about Non NA customers having to wait. Simply says contact your local service centre.
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For North American users with the WiFi/BT dropout problem (WiFi on, BT on, stream media through a BT connection and the signal drops out completely) that have not had their unit repaired or exchanged .....
If you are in a region other than North America, please contact your local service team.
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Any news on the class action suit ?

This was filed in febuary,
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
It's a class action suit against Asus regarding the tf-201's problems that we have with it's GPS and wi-fi etc..., but it's for U.S. residents.
Last winter, Asus customers in the U.K were offered refunds for their tf-201.
A few lucky owners who bought their primes from bestbuy, staples, amazon and and other major retailers got a lucky break, and were able to get a refund, or an exchange for their primes. But it seems that these stores that gave these refunds or exchanges gave them out of good business practice and had to absorb the full loss, Asus not authorizing those refunds or exchanges.
Realisticly, you cannot expect you local computer store to be able to do the same, these guys work on a 5% to 15% margin maximum.
Here's my personnal experience ; since laste decembre, like most of you, my tablet has never worked really well, especially the GPS wich has never worked at all.
I called the service dept. twice in the first few months I had the tablet to complain about it, they did not offer an RMA, they told me to wait for the ICS update, it would fix everything.....wich it did not like we all know.
Then, up to now, my tablet has been in their service center 2 times to fix the GPS, the weak wi-fi, and a loose power connector....just about everything has been changed in the tablet....the list of parts is astounding. And stil, absolutely no GPS, and no improvement on the wi-fi,( i'm on my 6th different wireless router now !, rewired my modem so I could install the router centrally in the house, got a netgear 6300 )
Before the last RMA,, I talked to a supervisor in California, spent 30 minutes on the phone with him explaining the problems, asking him what other solutions the service center was planning to offer after changing every component in the tablet and even installing ' foil ' on the antennas on the last RMA ?...... demanding that this time they either replaced the tablet with a new one ( mine must have a design flaw ), exchange it with a different model, or refund like Asus did in the U.K......his answer....we wil give you another RMA.................It was like talking to a robot,,,this guy was a supervisor ?
And the icing on the cake came with the email giving me the RMA number........ASUS - North America (NA) is a warranty service center only. Please contact place of purchase for credit, refunds, upgrades / model changes, or new retail box replacement. ASUS does not provide these services under any circumstances..
Ok, so I contact my reseller with a copy of this email...he responds very politely with a copy of his contract with Asus of north america wich states very precisely that Asus is responsable only for warranty services.......but what does waranty cover ?....is a non functionning device broken or badly designed? and how do you resolve the problem then ?
On another note, I must add that on the last occasion, I explained to the supervisor that I am a small business owner...computer reseller. In the last 11 years, I have bought and sold to my clients about 1 400 000$ worth of Asus products. That I was extremely disapointed in the way they were inable to resolve this simple issue, and considering in the future stopping completely buying any of their products for any of my clients, even the ones that requested their brand, considering the fact that the after sale service was inadequate.
Well, yes, I guess you could call it an attempt at a special treatment......but that did not in any way unphase the supervisor.....just gave me anothe RMA number like the good robot he was programmed to be.
So, on a personnal level, I live in Canada, and we have consummer laws that apply to protect consummers against corporate giants like that.
It's called the small claims court. It takes a while, but you can file claims up to 7000$
My tablet is in the service center again.......for the third and final time
If it comes back again with ti's GPS not working, I will follow what our legislature reccomends and send a demand letter with a 10 day delay to give Asus a final occasion to make amends, giving them a choice of either exchanging / refunding / replacing with another model.
After that delay, if no solution is reached, I will file my suit with the Quebec small claims court......it's gonna take a while to have a court date, but that's ok, I'm in no hurry.
I just don't get how Asus figures it's cheaper to spend that much on replacing parts , paying for deliveries, paying to send lawers in Quebec.....it must add up at some point ? is it just me, but it would have been a lot cheaper to just exchage the damn thing ?.....
Anyways, i'll keep you posted on how it goes, maybe it's gonna be a while !
I agree with you about poor quality in wifi, gps, nand and whatever... But I live in Italy and no one of our sellers (neither in other Europen country, as far as I know) has never talk about or agreed with costumers about refund or change with other working product. We had only to fight with asus assistance service that, sometimes, in really unusefull. Unless in Europe, gps issue was well know before comercialization, infact gps feature wasn't even mentioned so we cannot complain about this... Honeslty I didn't bought this tablet to use it like a pnd
But wifi, speed of nand, virtual keybord, are relly awfull....sometimes far from cheaper tablets sold by other manifacturer...or by the same Asus!
Now I'm tryimg to make understand to some dumb guy of asus assistance that I could not upgrade to latest firmware because my tablet don't show serial number anymore...and I haven't erase by mistake. It came back from Asus service without s/n, where I sent in rma 2 month ago. The only answer I had is that I have the last firmware..and this is obviously false!
Here none talk about a class action against Asus, but I hope you Canadian could be more lucky in your fight against Asus, that onceI considered one of the best brands
Well, here in Canada, when it came out, it was clearly advertised with GPS feature. And while I agree with you, even if did not buy it only for that feature, i expect it to work when needed........compare that to the air conditiining in my car, even if i dont use it during the 6 months if winter, when summer comes, and its 100 degrees outside, i expect it not to blow hot air.......and thats exactly what the GPS is so far.....a whole lot of hot air, and nothing else !
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speed4134 said:
This was filed in febuary,
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
It's a class action suit against Asus regarding the tf-201's problems that we have with it's GPS and wi-fi etc..., but it's for U.S. residents.
Last winter, Asus customers in the U.K were offered refunds for their tf-201.
A few lucky owners who bought their primes from bestbuy, staples, amazon and and other major retailers got a lucky break, and were able to get a refund, or an exchange for their primes. But it seems that these stores that gave these refunds or exchanges gave them out of good business practice and had to absorb the full loss, Asus not authorizing those refunds or exchanges.
Realisticly, you cannot expect you local computer store to be able to do the same, these guys work on a 5% to 15% margin maximum.
Here's my personnal experience ; since laste decembre, like most of you, my tablet has never worked really well, especially the GPS wich has never worked at all.
I called the service dept. twice in the first few months I had the tablet to complain about it, they did not offer an RMA, they told me to wait for the ICS update, it would fix everything.....wich it did not like we all know.
Then, up to now, my tablet has been in their service center 2 times to fix the GPS, the weak wi-fi, and a loose power connector....just about everything has been changed in the tablet....the list of parts is astounding. And stil, absolutely no GPS, and no improvement on the wi-fi,( i'm on my 6th different wireless router now !, rewired my modem so I could install the router centrally in the house, got a netgear 6300 )
Before the last RMA,, I talked to a supervisor in California, spent 30 minutes on the phone with him explaining the problems, asking him what other solutions the service center was planning to offer after changing every component in the tablet and even installing ' foil ' on the antennas on the last RMA ?...... demanding that this time they either replaced the tablet with a new one ( mine must have a design flaw ), exchange it with a different model, or refund like Asus did in the U.K......his answer....we wil give you another RMA.................It was like talking to a robot,,,this guy was a supervisor ?
And the icing on the cake came with the email giving me the RMA number........ASUS - North America (NA) is a warranty service center only. Please contact place of purchase for credit, refunds, upgrades / model changes, or new retail box replacement. ASUS does not provide these services under any circumstances..
Ok, so I contact my reseller with a copy of this email...he responds very politely with a copy of his contract with Asus of north america wich states very precisely that Asus is responsable only for warranty services.......but what does waranty cover ?....is a non functionning device broken or badly designed? and how do you resolve the problem then ?
On another note, I must add that on the last occasion, I explained to the supervisor that I am a small business owner...computer reseller. In the last 11 years, I have bought and sold to my clients about 1 400 000$ worth of Asus products. That I was extremely disapointed in the way they were inable to resolve this simple issue, and considering in the future stopping completely buying any of their products for any of my clients, even the ones that requested their brand, considering the fact that the after sale service was inadequate.
Well, yes, I guess you could call it an attempt at a special treatment......but that did not in any way unphase the supervisor.....just gave me anothe RMA number like the good robot he was programmed to be.
So, on a personnal level, I live in Canada, and we have consummer laws that apply to protect consummers against corporate giants like that.
It's called the small claims court. It takes a while, but you can file claims up to 7000$
My tablet is in the service center again.......for the third and final time
If it comes back again with ti's GPS not working, I will follow what our legislature reccomends and send a demand letter with a 10 day delay to give Asus a final occasion to make amends, giving them a choice of either exchanging / refunding / replacing with another model.
After that delay, if no solution is reached, I will file my suit with the Quebec small claims court......it's gonna take a while to have a court date, but that's ok, I'm in no hurry.
I just don't get how Asus figures it's cheaper to spend that much on replacing parts , paying for deliveries, paying to send lawers in Quebec.....it must add up at some point ? is it just me, but it would have been a lot cheaper to just exchage the damn thing ?.....
Anyways, i'll keep you posted on how it goes, maybe it's gonna be a while !
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I have encountered these RMA robots,you will never get anywhere with them.I emailed one of the lawyers on the casa and he said Asus would award us $17 for lack of GPS and give us a gps dongle. WOW I'm so excited .F******g assholes.
speed4134 said:
This was filed in febuary,
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
It's a class action suit against Asus regarding the tf-201's problems that we have with it's GPS and wi-fi etc..., but it's for U.S. residents.
Last winter, Asus customers in the U.K were offered refunds for their tf-201.
A few lucky owners who bought their primes from bestbuy, staples, amazon and and other major retailers got a lucky break, and were able to get a refund, or an exchange for their primes. But it seems that these stores that gave these refunds or exchanges gave them out of good business practice and had to absorb the full loss, Asus not authorizing those refunds or exchanges.
Realisticly, you cannot expect you local computer store to be able to do the same, these guys work on a 5% to 15% margin maximum.
Here's my personnal experience ; since laste decembre, like most of you, my tablet has never worked really well, especially the GPS wich has never worked at all.
I called the service dept. twice in the first few months I had the tablet to complain about it, they did not offer an RMA, they told me to wait for the ICS update, it would fix everything.....wich it did not like we all know.
Then, up to now, my tablet has been in their service center 2 times to fix the GPS, the weak wi-fi, and a loose power connector....just about everything has been changed in the tablet....the list of parts is astounding. And stil, absolutely no GPS, and no improvement on the wi-fi,( i'm on my 6th different wireless router now !, rewired my modem so I could install the router centrally in the house, got a netgear 6300 )
Before the last RMA,, I talked to a supervisor in California, spent 30 minutes on the phone with him explaining the problems, asking him what other solutions the service center was planning to offer after changing every component in the tablet and even installing ' foil ' on the antennas on the last RMA ?...... demanding that this time they either replaced the tablet with a new one ( mine must have a design flaw ), exchange it with a different model, or refund like Asus did in the U.K......his answer....we wil give you another RMA.................It was like talking to a robot,,,this guy was a supervisor ?
And the icing on the cake came with the email giving me the RMA number........ASUS - North America (NA) is a warranty service center only. Please contact place of purchase for credit, refunds, upgrades / model changes, or new retail box replacement. ASUS does not provide these services under any circumstances..
Ok, so I contact my reseller with a copy of this email...he responds very politely with a copy of his contract with Asus of north america wich states very precisely that Asus is responsable only for warranty services.......but what does waranty cover ?....is a non functionning device broken or badly designed? and how do you resolve the problem then ?
On another note, I must add that on the last occasion, I explained to the supervisor that I am a small business owner...computer reseller. In the last 11 years, I have bought and sold to my clients about 1 400 000$ worth of Asus products. That I was extremely disapointed in the way they were inable to resolve this simple issue, and considering in the future stopping completely buying any of their products for any of my clients, even the ones that requested their brand, considering the fact that the after sale service was inadequate.
Well, yes, I guess you could call it an attempt at a special treatment......but that did not in any way unphase the supervisor.....just gave me anothe RMA number like the good robot he was programmed to be.
So, on a personnal level, I live in Canada, and we have consummer laws that apply to protect consummers against corporate giants like that.
It's called the small claims court. It takes a while, but you can file claims up to 7000$
My tablet is in the service center again.......for the third and final time
If it comes back again with ti's GPS not working, I will follow what our legislature reccomends and send a demand letter with a 10 day delay to give Asus a final occasion to make amends, giving them a choice of either exchanging / refunding / replacing with another model.
After that delay, if no solution is reached, I will file my suit with the Quebec small claims court......it's gonna take a while to have a court date, but that's ok, I'm in no hurry.
I just don't get how Asus figures it's cheaper to spend that much on replacing parts , paying for deliveries, paying to send lawers in Quebec.....it must add up at some point ? is it just me, but it would have been a lot cheaper to just exchage the damn thing ?.....
Anyways, i'll keep you posted on how it goes, maybe it's gonna be a while !
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WOW! Earth shattering stuff!! How has nobody submitted this as a news tip?
Asus already gave out free GPS dongles to everyone who has purchased the Prime before and even a bit after the GPS feature advertisement was removed. The Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine. Let it go already.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
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WOW! Earth shattering stuff!! How has nobody submitted this as a news tip?
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If you took 2 seconds and read the post, you would have first realized that
1) it's in the Q/A section....so, in fact, it's not a ' tip'....
2) the title is '' Any news on the class action suit '?
Soooooooo, the post is a genuine question. don't get you panties wet !
I know there is a class action suit, i just want to know if there has been a settlement, or any developpement.
And has far as the dongle goes, just to let you know, I requested mine in april, and never got it
Chrono_Tata said:
Asus already gave out free GPS dongles to everyone who has purchased the Prime before and even a bit after the GPS feature advertisement was removed. The Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine. Let it go already.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
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What do you mean saying "Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine"? If it's weak isn't working fine!
What is wifi good for if do not allow to move to a room 10 meters far from access point (wifi n protocol)??
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speed4134 said:
Well, here in Canada, when it came out, it was clearly advertised with GPS feature. And while I agree with you, even if did not buy it only for that feature, i expect it to work when needed........compare that to the air conditiining in my car, even if i dont use it during the 6 months if winter, when summer comes, and its 100 degrees outside, i expect it not to blow hot air.......and thats exactly what the GPS is so far.....a whole lot of hot air, and nothing else !
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If you buy a car that has not air conditioned at all, or has a not working air conditioned and you know this before buying that car, than you can't complain with seller if you need in summer but it don't work.
But this, according to me, is not the worst issue in tf201...even if is not a good advertisement for asus and this tablet.
The worst are features that should have to work perfectly, wifi above all.
asus just doesn't give a damn about the customers,
we bought their $500 POS and pretty much they're going f-off now
i given up with the GPS and wifi issue
but my camera has been RMA twice for the same problem (green lines)
now it has happened again, clearly ASUS is doing something wrong and should fix the problem instead of patching it... so it'll break again down the road....
i emailed them all they did was offer RMA
after i explained to them that RMA is clearly not fixing the problem permanently, they ignored my emails since then
posted on their FB, they replied me going "we're sorry that you're unhappy about our product, is there anything i can help you with" i explain it to them, and they ignored me there
like wth is this service? -_-
1di9 said:
What do you mean saying "Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine"? If it's weak isn't working fine!
What is wifi good for if do not allow to move to a room 10 meters far from access point (wifi n protocol)??
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It works fine meaning that you turn it on and it works if you are in a good range of your router. It gets weak when you move far away from it, but Asus never advertised their tablet to have the greatest WiFi strength. Does it make the Prime a bad tablet? Probably, but there is no legal case here, unlike the GPS which simply just didn't work to any acceptable degree, which Asus remedied with the dongle.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
speed4134 said:
If you took 2 seconds and read the post, you would have first realized that
1) it's in the Q/A section....so, in fact, it's not a ' tip'....
2) the title is '' Any news on the class action suit '?
Soooooooo, the post is a genuine question. don't get you panties wet !
I know there is a class action suit, i just want to know if there has been a settlement, or any developpement.
And has far as the dongle goes, just to let you know, I requested mine in april, and never got it
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in spite of the fact I read and understood your entire post, it really didnt deserve 2 seconds. Its another crying the blues because you were not smart enough to return a product you found defective in the return window offered by your retail establishment. This is xda not asus north america. Nobody here should give a damn about product warranty as we should be here to void the warranty. Unfortunately somebody told people like you where a forum named transformer prime exists. stupid google. Not going to get into the reasons for it but YOU SHOULD HAVE RETURNED IT WHEN YOU FIRST DISCOVERED IT DIDNT MEET YOUR NEEDS. That being said if you want a gps dongle I dont really need mine for anything but testing if it works on a rom. PM me and I will mail you mine at my own expense if you promise not to post another waste of space complaint thread. It works very well
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in spite of the fact I read and understood your entire post, it really didnt deserve 2 seconds. Its another crying the blues because you were not smart enough to return a product you found defective in the return window offered by your retail establishment. This is xda not asus north america. Nobody here should give a damn about product warranty as we should be here to void the warranty. Unfortunately somebody told people like you where a forum named transformer prime exists. stupid google. Not going to get into the reasons for it but YOU SHOULD HAVE RETURNED IT WHEN YOU FIRST DISCOVERED IT DIDNT MEET YOUR NEEDS. That being said if you want a gps dongle I dont really need mine for anything but testing if it works on a rom. PM me and I will mail you mine at my own expense if you promise not to post another waste of space complaint thread. It works very well
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Really, nobody gives a damn about product waranty?.......that might reflect your own opinion, not mine, not the majority of people.
So,, next time, just resist waisting your precious time.....' cause you've waisted mine also... .........still no answer to the original question.....'' any news on the class action suit ?
That's all i'm asking
speed4134 said:
Really, nobody gives a damn about product waranty?.......that might reflect your own opinion, not mine, not the majority of people.
So,, next time, just resist waisting your precious time.....' cause you've waisted mine also... .........still no answer to the original question.....'' any news on the class action suit ?
That's all i'm asking
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Apparently you do not understand the title of this website. Developers do things that void warranties in order to bring out the best in the item they are working with. your comments belong here http://www.facebook.com/IHateAsusComputers with other non doing complainers. by the way 2 r's in warranty and no i's in wasted.

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