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I am here today because I need help. I want to root for 1st time ever, but I have a Mac. I hear about all of the great things I can do with my Vibrant after rooting but I am scared of trying this without a PC. Can anyone lead me in the right direction? Also lead me to the best roms. Thank you.
Well my first suggestion would be to get a PC
But seriously, you could always get a copy of XP somewhere (pretty easy to get for free), or a later Windows OS and dual-boot your system.
Or you could just dl Ryanza's lag fix from the market and root it that way.
You do not need a pc.
Download the file to your phone, put it on the root sdcard/ and go into stock recovery and flash it.
Afterwards, get rom manager and make a backup.
Flash a rom, bionix or eugene's
This is all in the general section sticky I made. EVERYTHING you need is there.
vcof2005 said:
I am here today because I need help. I want to root for 1st time ever, but I have a Mac. I hear about all of the great things I can do with my Vibrant after rooting but I am scared of trying this without a PC. Can anyone lead me in the right direction? Also lead me to the best roms. Thank you.
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Take a look at this post. I would recommend you pull the latest version, su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip, from this thread instead of "SGH-959 Root Update.zip" from the 1st link.
slighpcs-
I have taken your advice but my phone has only installed the Superuser app. I am scared that if I do anything else I will brick my phone. Is there a way to unroot it? I would like to try rooting again with the non PC version. Thank you
Download rom manager
Flash clockwork recovery
make a nandroid backup.
Now you have something you can always revert to.
vcof2005 said:
slighpcs-
I have taken your advice but my phone has only installed the Superuser app. I am scared that if I do anything else I will brick my phone. Is there a way to unroot it? I would like to try rooting again with the non PC version. Thank you
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Yes sir, that's exactly what you should have after successfully completing the process. To unroot from your device take a look here. View the Full thread (Page 1) to perform via adb. I don't see any reason you need to worry yourself about bricking. Unless your planning on testing kernels, ROMs, etc... If that's the case, make sure you read the entire thread before you make any decisions, and ask questions as it seems that most everyone here is willing to lend a hand.
search ryanza on market place. download the free version you can root and unroot from there simple instructions very easy to understand.
download rom manager (it auto installs superuser also) from market place also free download. that will allow you to make backups and restore should you encounter any problems.
also if your running OSX you can dual boot from Bootcamp windows, and if your running atleast a core 2 duo system you can dual boot windows 7/Vista 64bit.
A pc is needed for almost no modification when it comes to this phone.
I had to put effort into bricking my phone so you should be fine, just make sure if you have installed the OTA that any themes you install support the JI6 update. thats the only way i bricked my phone lol, and again that was a easy fix. Read read read so much to learn.
Thank you everyone for your help. I have succesfully rooted my phone. I think I will wait for the 2.2 OTA update since I hear that they are slowing coming around for the galaxy S phones. I want to try the bionix rom but I do not want to install it to soon and miss out on my chance to get the OTA update.
Sorry for the basic nature of this question but I'm still learning. One thing I wanted to know is Is Clockworkmod what actually roots the device?
Thanx!
No. ClockworkMod is a utility for performing low level tasks like partitioning, formatting and flashing ROMs. Rooting isn't actually necessary for any of those tasks.
And most ROMs will have root access included, I believe..
Thanks for the replies. I'm plannin on picking up a G tab this weekend and want to be ready to mod it once I get it.
it was funny I fount this thread because this is tying in to my question.
I am not new to android, just the GTab (when I get mine on Friday).
I have use CWM on my Droid so I am familiar with it, but all other android phone devices I have dealt with, all needed Root access for CWM to work.
Since you are saying the GTab does not need root access to do the things CWM can do, can I simply do the following?
Open my gTab box,
turn it on,
download CWM, and install the vegan froyo/gingerbread rom from with the app?
Or can vegan not be downloaded/installed from CWM? If not downloaded, then atleast installed once I download to sdcard?
Thanks,
RalphTrent
ralphtrent said:
it was funny I fount this thread because this is tying in to my question.
I am not new to android, just the GTab (when I get mine on Friday).
I have use CWM on my Droid so I am familiar with it, but all other android phone devices I have dealt with, all needed Root access for CWM to work.
Since you are saying the GTab does not need root access to do the things CWM can do, can I simply do the following?
Open my gTab box,
turn it on,
download CWM, and install the vegan froyo/gingerbread rom from with the app?
Or can vegan not be downloaded/installed from CWM? If not downloaded, then atleast installed once I download to sdcard?
Thanks,
RalphTrent
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I found this quote in a sticky posted above. It may answer your question.
"You do NOT need to root your tablet to install a ROM on this device using this guide. All the after-market ROMs come pre-rooted so you don't need to root after installing either. "
If you watch any of the tutorials on youtube, they are basically installing clockworkmod and then a ROM. Of course there are several important steps, but this is the gist, as I understand it.
Is the thunderbolt getting Sense 3.0 or should I root my phone and put on these roms that has sense 3.0?
I just got my thunderbolt today and saw lots of great roms out there on Sense 3.0. what do you think?
i bet eventually... there isnt really any stable gingerbread roms at all right now. probably a few months out for sure.
If you are going to wait for Verizon, it may be a while buddy...
Sent from my thunderbolt
Thanks guys, so its better to root my thunderbolt and load one of those roms? If so, please this is my first brand new, fresh out the box ever phone. How would I do this right? my last phones were hand me downs.
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Thanks guys, so its better to root my thunderbolt and load one of those roms? If so, please this is my first brand new, fresh out the box ever phone. How would I do this right? my last phones were hand me downs.
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Here's the thread I followed...
[ROOT] MR1/OTA PermRoot + Unlock Bootloader - Safer/Easier 5/12/2011
It worked great. But you have to have the android sdk and all that good stuff.
Before you flash any gingerbread rom, you should know that the leaked radio may be causing phones to brick. Be sure to read this thread and understand the risk.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096104
I really doubt that the thunderbolt will EVER get Android 3.0 officially. Gingerbread is 2.3 (currently we're running Froyo or 2.2), and that is what *should* be coming out to t-bolt owners this summer....supposedly.
Edit: I get it now. Nevermind. Don't listen to me.
Rooting is DEFINITELY the way to go, in my opinion. I couldn't live without it. I'm running BAMF Remix 1.7, and freaking love it!
Read through the rooting thread that thepolishguy posted the link to. That's the safest way to root, as long as you follow all of the steps exactly (ie read through the thread a couple times, make sure you understand it, THEN start). The easiest way to get the Android SDK installed and setup is through this thread. If you have any questions (after reading through these threads and googling any easy questions), the guys in this chat irc are EXTREMELY helpful.
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Before you flash any gingerbread rom, you should know that the leaked radio may be causing phones to brick. Be sure to read this thread and understand the risk.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096104
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Yeah. Can't stress this enough. I would recommend NOT flashing a GB rom until there are some more thoroughly tested builds of it.
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I really doubt that the thunderbolt will EVER get Android 3.0 officially. Gingerbread is 2.3 (currently we're running Froyo or 2.2), and that is what *should* be coming out to t-bolt owners this summer....supposedly.
Rooting is DEFINITELY the way to go, in my opinion. I couldn't live without it. I'm running BAMF Remix 1.7, and freaking love it!
Read through the rooting thread that thepolishguy posted the link to. That's the safest way to root, as long as you follow all of the steps exactly (ie read through the thread a couple times, make sure you understand it, THEN start). The easiest way to get the Android SDK installed and setup is through this thread. If you have any questions (after reading through these threads and googling any easy questions), the guys in this chat irc are EXTREMELY helpful.
Yeah. Can't stress this enough. I would recommend NOT flashing a GB rom until there are some more thoroughly tested builds of it.
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He was talking about sense 3.0 not android 3.0 (ie honeycomb) which no phone will get since its a tablet os.
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miketoasty said:
He was talking about sense 3.0 not android 3.0 (ie honeycomb) which no phone will get since its a tablet os.
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Heh, I'm dumb. Wondered why anybody would expect a phone to get Android 3.0. Apparently, I'm running a little slow this morning.
*faceplam*
HTC has already stated that they will probably not support a full Sense 3.0 on the THunderbolt. However they have stated that they will take pieces from that and incorporate into updates. The issue is with Sense 3.0 they are tying to corner the 3-D look and with a single core it makes it a little tougher. Sure the TB runs fine with sense 3.0 things. I am running gingerbread right now with all the sense 3.0 add ons, but for HTC to go public and give to all users it mayt not work as well. So look for pieces from 3.0 but I doubt the whole sense 3.0 will be coming. I am betting we stay on sense 2.1 when the gingerbread finally goes public and they just use things like the updated weather in future builds.
So basically it will be a Sense 2.5? Or 2.1.5? Just tossing out ideas here
-Kiyo
From what i have read, HTC wont be doing Sense 3.0 for any phones that are already out.
all this sounds confusing. rooting this phone sounds hard and almost scary to a point of hit or miss. the sdk is so hard to install. I load it then there's a missing java jre, I'm using Avabox for signing my apk's and its running just fine with the jre 6. I had issues with both loaded.
I know there's got to be another way, revolked or something like that should be releasing something soon.
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all this sounds confusing. rooting this phone sounds hard and almost scary to a point of hit or miss. the sdk is so hard to install. I load it then there's a missing java jre, I'm using Avabox for signing my apk's and its running just fine with the jre 6. I had issues with both loaded.
I know there's got to be another way, revolked or something like that should be releasing something soon.
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Honestly, just setting up adb correctly is probably the most difficult task in the root process and imho its not even that bad. The rest is just copy and paste and following simple directions. Jcase did an excellent job on the root guide so just follow his directions to a tee and you will be straight. I would not expect to see unrevoked anytime soon and would recommend you use the manual root method since you will learn the most from that.
johnny quest said:
all this sounds confusing. rooting this phone sounds hard and almost scary to a point of hit or miss. the sdk is so hard to install. I load it then there's a missing java jre, I'm using Avabox for signing my apk's and its running just fine with the jre 6. I had issues with both loaded.
I know there's got to be another way, revolked or something like that should be releasing something soon.
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First off unrevoked will not be making a one click root for the TB. It is just not possible at the stage that we are at. Flashing an old RUU can't be done without human interaction.
Second, please don't tell me you know how to sign APK's but using adb scares you? The rooting process is just copy and paste. Hell, I am sure I could have my girlfriend do it and she ain't the best with computers let me tell you.
Either use the current 3 click root process, grow a pair and do it the manual way, or deal with stock and let you'r phone just never live up to its full potential.
P.S Just on a little side note. I have yet to hear off a TB get bricked by anyone using the manual root process, and if anything goes wrong JCase will be around to help basically anytime of the day.
This confirms what others have said. No Sense 3.0, but the T-bolt will get select portions. I can't post links yet, so try to crack the code:
www dot engadget dot com/2011/04/14/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-support-sensation-evo-3d-flyer-and-new/
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First off unrevoked will not be making a one click root for the TB. It is just not possible at the stage that we are at. Flashing an old RUU can't be done without human interaction.
Second, please don't tell me you know how to sign APK's but using adb scares you? The rooting process is just copy and paste. Hell, I am sure I could have my girlfriend do it and she ain't the best with computers let me tell you.
Either use the current 3 click root process, grow a pair and do it the manual way, or deal with stock and let you'r phone just never live up to its full potential.
P.S Just on a little side note. I have yet to hear off a TB get bricked by anyone using the manual root process, and if anything goes wrong JCase will be around to help basically anytime of the day.
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LOL, you guys are too much. So much knowledge, thank you. I will do it. Ok, one last dumb question: where are the steps to complete this process? Do I install ADB, SDK, some root download. I'm sorry if I keep asking the New Jack questions. Where do I go?
miketoasty said:
First off unrevoked will not be making a one click root for the TB. It is just not possible at the stage that we are at. Flashing an old RUU can't be done without human interaction.
Second, please don't tell me you know how to sign APK's but using adb scares you? The rooting process is just copy and paste. Hell, I am sure I could have my girlfriend do it and she ain't the best with computers let me tell you.
Either use the current 3 click root process, grow a pair and do it the manual way, or deal with stock and let you'r phone just never live up to its full potential.
P.S Just on a little side note. I have yet to hear off a TB get bricked by anyone using the manual root process, and if anything goes wrong JCase will be around to help basically anytime of the day.
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well said......
johnny quest said:
LOL, you guys are too much. So much knowledge, thank you. I will do it. Ok, one last dumb question: where are the steps to complete this process? Do I install ADB, SDK, some root download. I'm sorry if I keep asking the New Jack questions. Where do I go?
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go here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
JQ,
I think I understand your concern. It is not with following the manual rooting steps, but rather installing adb on your computer so you can execute the steps, correct?
First a little clarity. The package you would install on your computer is the Android SDK. The Android Debug Bridge (adb) is a platform tool component within SDK.
SDK is available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Here is a link to Google's installing the SDK page:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
You do not need to install eclipse or a bunch of other platforms if all you are going to really use is adb for the rooting process.
You will need to install the Platform Tools component addon, but that can be done within the SDK program. (it worked that way for me)
Here is Google's ADB page:
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html
ADB is run in the terminal window on your computer ( command window if you use Windows). Depending on setup, you may need to navigate to the folder that adb is in to launch it. Assuming you installed sdk straight to c: in Windows, the path would be c:\android\sdk\platform_tools\
If you Google " how to install the Android SDK" or " how to install adb" you will find tons of helpful guides.
Once you have adb working head over to the link posted previously in this thread to root your TB. jcase's steps are well written and easy to follow. Btw: check those md5s on your downloads before you start flashing.
Hope this helps get you started. If so, please click the thanks button.
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i have been seeing a lot of threads about rooting this phone, but, they all have windows scripts, even the thread that is said to have a runme.sh does not have it in any of the links that i unzipped - only a runme.bat, but yet, people keep mentioning a runme.sh in it... also, i really don't see any one lying out the steps for doing this with linux.
i'm a noob, and dont really know much about this stuff, but i've done this ONCE before with a galxy exhibit, but it was very easy, i just copied a file to the phone (stock rom?), rebooted into recovery, told it to recover from that file, and i was done.
i have no idea how to do it with my new phone, and so i'm wondering:
1: where can i find the files i need to do this with linux - i just want root, nothing special
2: where can i find the steps necessary to do it - in the easiest manner possible?
3: it says i have droid 4.0.4, ICS, but every one who talks about lg l9 p769 says its JB, so, thats a bit odd...
any help is appreciated.
sentientsystem said:
3: it says i have droid 4.0.4, ICS, but every one who talks about lg l9 p769 says its JB, so, thats a bit odd...
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Your phone is running ICS 4.0, that is the version which it shipped with. Pretty much everyone on here has upgraded to JB either with software update on the phone or they have manually updated with the offline KDZ flash method.
I dont have any experience in linux so I cant help. I hope you can get your phone rooted!
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i just started to restart my phone into recovery mode to see if i could put cyenogenmod on it without having to root it first, and it's saying "software upgrade ... please wait while upgrading...", so, i guess it's upgrading to JB right now... i'll see shortly.
but even if it does upgrade to JB, i still wouldn't know how to do it on linux. i figured there would just be some files to download, and a sequence of adb commands that i could type into bash, but, i'm kinda lost. i guess i'll wait and see if it upgrades to JB before asking more questions.
thanks.
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i just started to restart my phone into recovery mode to see if i could put cyenogenmod on it without having to root it first, and it's saying "software upgrade ... please wait while upgrading...", so, i guess it's upgrading to JB right now... i'll see shortly.
but even if it does upgrade to JB, i still wouldn't know how to do it on linux. i figured there would just be some files to download, and a sequence of adb commands that i could type into bash, but, i'm kinda lost. i guess i'll wait and see if it upgrades to JB before asking more questions.
thanks.
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You would need wine and then set it up...
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well, i tried that "LGpwn" and it didn't work, as well as a fake lg-recovery app. i figured out that i've got a "10g" phone (P769 V10G ICS). i'm not sure what the next step is. some one mentioned downgrading to JB... is there some where you can point me to for that???
i've GOT to get this t-mobile junk off my damned phone... i've even TRIED to install cyenogenmod, but i can't figure out how to get my phone to go into recovery mode (NOT factory rest) - i've tried volup+power+home and volup+power, and neither seem to be working.
Setup a sandbox, windows xp. LG uses windows, no other way to root as of right now for the t-mobile version.
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yeah, it's starting to look like i'm gonna have to try this with a virtual machine, or, pay some one else to do it, or, go get my money back and downgrade to a samsung galaxy exihibit (not sure if the new model of that phone is just as easy as the exhibit 4g, but, it's screen is about an inch smaller than the lg, and they're all 3 the same price, so i'd rather keep the lg).
just out of curiosity, how do you get this phone to boot into recovery mode? you don't have to root it for that, or have windows, right? you just hit the right keys on the phone, right? i couldn't get it to work, but, maybe i was doing it wrong. and, if you can go into recovery, does it have to be rooted to use a cyenogenmod image, or will it not really know the difference?
thanks again. i'm sure this thread may help other noobs as well.
sentientsystem said:
yeah, it's starting to look like i'm gonna have to try this with a virtual machine, or, pay some one else to do it, or, go get my money back and downgrad to an samsung galaxy exihibit (not sure if the new model of that phone is just as easy as the exhibit 4g, but, it's screen is about an inch smaller than the lg, and they're all 3 the same price, so i'd rather keep the lg).
just out of curiosity, how do you get this phone to boot into recovery mode? you don't have to root it for that, or have windows, right? you just hit the right keys on the phone, right? i couldn't get it to work, but, maybe i was doing it wrong. and, if you can go into recovery, does it have to be rooted to use a cyenogenmod image, or will it not really know the difference?
thanks again. i'm sure this thread may help other noobs as well.
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Option #1
If you are rooted on stock T-Mobile 10e or 10g ROM and have the CWM installed from this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095825 follow my instructions.
Place one of these CWM ROM images on your SD-Card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136204
Place this JB radio firmware from T-Mobile 20d ROM on your SD-Card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256350
Power off the device.
After power on the back/menu capacitive buttons will flash repetedly. Press Volume down while the lights are flashing and the phone should go into recovery.
Flash the ROM first.
Flash the radio second.
Reboot.
***Notes***
1.) 20d is the latest T-Mobile, 21b is the latest Wind Mobile. Both work.
2.) 21b is lighter/faster but has no wifi-calling.
3.) 21b will require you to manually enter your APN settings for cellular data and MMS. Be sure to write down your APN settings before flashing this ROM.
4.) Some users say battery life sucks on JB. I notice that 21b is better on battery life than 20d.
Option #2.
In Linux install a Windows VM and follow the standard instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465
Use KVM with a GUI or even easier use VirtualBox.
I'm a die hard linux geek too. I even run linux at work while all of our msp software was written for windows. You are better off just running an old copy of xp inside virtualbox trust me its just easier that way. You can use adb if you like (its the same thing the windows users use in their batch files and just rewrite the bash script, but you will save yourself lots of headaches just using virtualbox. -- my .02
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i'm not exactly sure what the end result of your instructions are, as i assumed it was to BE rooted, but the first line of your post says "if you are rooted ...", so, i'm guessing you're telling us how to ... unlock the boot loader?
by the way, that reminds me, i still haven't come across any posts on this site that tell noobs:
# what's the unlocked boot loader FOR - why do you need this - what does it do?
# what's the difference between unlocked boot loaders and being rooted?
# do you have to unlock the bootloader to get root access?
all some one like ME needs, is root access, so that i can edit the /etc/hosts file and test mobile compatibility of web apps on the development server before making them live - and to remove t-mobile damned bloat-ware. i hope this helps others who are trying to understand the basic concepts of getting control over the phone they paid money for.
thanks again. now to find a winxp image to load into a virtual machine...
My bad. I should have read through your original question all the way before posting. I see that you are not rooted.
If you are on 10e ROM you can root in Linux:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990705
It will require rewriting the batch script as a Linux shell script. It is possible but nobody has done it yet.
If you are on 10g you will need Windows. I have also answered your questions below.
sentientsystem said:
i'm not exactly sure what the end result of your instructions are, as i assumed it was to BE rooted, but the first line of your post says "if you are rooted ...", so, i'm guessing you're telling us how to ... unlock the boot loader?
by the way, that reminds me, i still haven't come across any posts on this site that tell noobs:
# what's the unlocked boot loader FOR - why do you need this - what does it do?
It allows you to boot an un-signed kernel. You can boot custom ROMs basically.
# what's the difference between unlocked boot loaders and being rooted?
Root allows you to `su -` to the root user and own the whole system.
# do you have to unlock the bootloader to get root access?
No.
all some one like ME needs, is root access, so that i can edit the /etc/hosts file and test mobile compatibility of web apps on the development server before making them live - and to remove t-mobile damned bloat-ware. i hope this helps others who are trying to understand the basic concepts of getting control over the phone they paid money for.
thanks again. now to find a winxp image to load into a virtual machine...
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yeah, the one t-mobile is selling now is a v10g - so, it's time to play with virtual machine, and hope that usb-access is passed through from ubuntu to the VM.
thanks for answering the other questions. i think this essentially sets things straight.
peace! \m/ (>_<) \m/
sentientsystem said:
yeah, the one t-mobile is selling now is a v10g - so, it's time to play with virtual machine, and hope that usb-access is passed through from ubuntu to the VM.
thanks for answering the other questions. i think this essentially sets things straight.
peace! \m/ (>_<) \m/
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Welcome!
I know that a long time ago when I ran VirtualBox in Ubuntu there was something I had to do to allow USB access to the VM.
Here are the current instructions directly from Ubuntu:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
Good luck.
hey, i've got 1 more quick question: is there a way to simply load a pre-rooted ROM onto it, like i did with my samsung? where you put it onto the device, the go into recovery mode and choose the pre-rooted ROM? i haven't seen any mention of that, so i'm not sure if that's an option...
also, how the hell do you make this boot into recovery mode? i still haven't been able to get it to do that?
thanks \m/ (>_<) \m/
sentientsystem said:
hey, i've got 1 more quick question: is there a way to simply load a pre-rooted ROM onto it, like i did with my samsung? where you put it onto the device, the go into recovery mode and choose the pre-rooted ROM? i haven't seen any mention of that, so i'm not sure if that's an option...
also, how the hell do you make this boot into recovery mode? i still haven't been able to get it to do that?
thanks \m/ (>_<) \m/
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Yes you can flash a pre-rooted image. They are available. Use the search?
I posted instructions on the first page showing how to boot recovery.
that's great news - that's all i really needed - i didn't see them before, at least, not conspicuously, but i'll search around again.
and, i must have some how missed your instructions, i'll look again.
thanks!
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I posted instructions on the first page showing how to boot recovery.
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those steps assume i have CWM installed, and i don't. i looked at installing CWM, and it doesn't have an official recovery app for the p769, and when i went to look at that thread you linked to, it says you must be rooted already. this is the aggravating part of us ignorant people dealing with people who know many things: it appears to us that you have to do some thing that requires that it is already done before you can do it. it doesn't make any sense - just a bunch of circualar requirements, with no beginning.
so, let me ask this a different way: how do i reboot into recovery mode, on a STOCK LG P769 v10g? the lights do not flash, and i'm assuming that is a CWM feature - but CWM is not installed - this is COMPLETELY STOCK - fresh out of the box. so, what do you press, when turning it on, to make it go into recovery mode, so that you can recover from a pre-rooted rom (which i am still looking for)?
i just want to "recover" to a pre-rooted rom, that's it, so that i can delete bloatware and edit the /etc/hosts file (for web app testing). this thread says you cant do this for LG phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174767 - i got the same result the last guy got . trying to borrow a windows computer now...
also, does any one know if it is safe to put a jelly bean rom onto a device that was using ice cream sandwich? is there a difference between the versions that would brick the device? is it not recommended, or is it highly recommended?
thanks again. sorry for all the confusion.
you know, as a side note: it may help more noobs understand this stuff if there was a sort of simplified glossary, perhaps as an official site thread, for the orientation of noobs, that would give an outline of the basic concepts, AND their order of operation. exmaple: "rooting is when you... bootloader unlocking is when you... CWM is for people who want to... you MUST do A before you can do B and then you can optionally do C if so desired...". that would help them understand where to START, then, where to GO next.
well, borrowed a windows computer and i got it rooted, but, i found out a few things about this exact model: it has no "boot to recovery" option, by default - it's locked down pretty good. you can not use any of the other root methods on this model, and you can not do it from linux (f*ck me).
so, that long-winded fake-software-update-while-switched-out-a-hex-edited-binary-file is the ONLY way for this exact model, it seems...
but, at least i can confirm that this exact model CAN be rooted at all
now to remove alllllllll the bloatware... and look into this CWM more and learn more about what is actually IS and WHY so many people install/use/flash it...
hey, does any one know if cyenogenmod ever got themselve's an "app/marketplace"??? that was one of the draw-backs to installing it, last i checked.
thanks @everyone for your help.
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those steps assume i have CWM installed, and i don't. i looked at installing CWM, and it doesn't have an official recovery app for the p769, and when i went to look at that thread you linked to, it says you must be rooted already. this is the aggravating part of us ignorant people dealing with people who know many things: it appears to us that you have to do some thing that requires that it is already done before you can do it. it doesn't make any sense - just a bunch of circualar requirements, with no beginning.
so, let me ask this a different way: how do i reboot into recovery mode, on a STOCK LG P769 v10g? the lights do not flash, and i'm assuming that is a CWM feature - but CWM is not installed - this is COMPLETELY STOCK - fresh out of the box. so, what do you press, when turning it on, to make it go into recovery mode, so that you can recover from a pre-rooted rom (which i am still looking for)?
i just want to "recover" to a pre-rooted rom, that's it, so that i can delete bloatware and edit the /etc/hosts file (for web app testing). this thread says you cant do this for LG phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174767 - i got the same result the last guy got . trying to borrow a windows computer now...
also, does any one know if it is safe to put a jelly bean rom onto a device that was using ice cream sandwich? is there a difference between the versions that would brick the device? is it not recommended, or is it highly recommended?
thanks again. sorry for all the confusion.
you know, as a side note: it may help more noobs understand this stuff if there was a sort of simplified glossary, perhaps as an official site thread, for the orientation of noobs, that would give an outline of the basic concepts, AND their order of operation. exmaple: "rooting is when you... bootloader unlocking is when you... CWM is for people who want to... you MUST do A before you can do B and then you can optionally do C if so desired...". that would help them understand where to START, then, where to GO next.
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I've decided to help you out This page will give you some more info on the P769 and several kdz (roms) for the P769
The fastest way to root is to flash the V21B kdz (this is the Jelly Bean version for Canada) using this guide, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36351786
The reason why you want this rom is because it has a vulnerability that is easy to exploit with Jcase apk
Once your followed everything (and rooted), install Super Su and Busybox
Next install artas182x second init CWM (in case you can't find it on his page, the link is here )
Note: you will see blinking led lights when you see the LG logo (booting up) appear after a couple of seconds. To enter the CWM press the vol (-) when the lights start flashing.
After you installed Artas182x CWM you can recover from someones clockworkmod backup.
following info from Cmahendra's thread
Note: only restore CWM backups from P769 versions or MS769!!!!
Or check out the V10B (MetroPCS "JellyBean") CWM backup
Now the only 2 reasons to unlock the bootloader are:
1. Install a safer and better CWM
The reason why is because Artas182x CWM is a second init (bootstrap), so if you mess around with a busybox apk and something goes wrong or you remove a file that is required (for CWM), it will stop operating. You will have to reflash the kdz or fix what you changed to get it working again.) I've had this problem several times while messing around with different busybox apps and etc.
2. Custom roms
(which you stated you are not looking for) not worth talking about right now.
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The only pre rooted roms are clockworkmod backups, lol
The default recovery is useless to us (unless you feel like solving the problem)
Flashing back and forth (ice to jelly) comes with risk, the program used on Windows to flash is buggy at times. The best way (in my opinion) is to flash only when really required and mostly restore from clockwormod backups. The device is actually hard to hard brick, but it will require at lot more knowledge to get your device running again.
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sentientsystem said:
well, borrowed a windows computer and i got it rooted, but, i found out a few things about this exact model: it has no "boot to recovery" option, by default - it's locked down pretty good. you can not use any of the other root methods on this model, and you can not do it from linux (f*ck me).
so, that long-winded fake-software-update-while-switched-out-a-hex-edited-binary-file is the ONLY way for this exact model, it seems...
but, at least i can confirm that this exact model CAN be rooted at all
now to remove alllllllll the bloatware... and look into this CWM more and learn more about what is actually IS and WHY so many people install/use/flash it...
hey, does any one know if cyenogenmod ever got themselve's an "app/marketplace"??? that was one of the draw-backs to installing it, last i checked.
thanks @all for your help.
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So what version are you on right now
Ice? Jelly?
i'm still on ICS for the moment. still trying to understand what i need to do next. re-reading your post for the 2nd time, and all the threads it references. making sure i don't screw any thing up. thinking about upgrading to JB, and trying this CWM. and looking into this "cyanogenmod" some more, to understand why i never see any one on this site mention it, and what all these "other roms" are about. lmao, like i said, i'm way new to this . it's a lot to take in, even for a web developer .
thanks \m/ (>_<) \m/
I just recieved a replacement Unit for my malfunktioning HDX 9.8. Current version on this thing is 14.3.0.2_user_302075320. I have just started it up to check the version and have not yet registered it or even connected it to a network. This time around I would like to be in control of things! What would be the appropriate thing to do with this version, if I want to :
1. Root it and keep it from auto-updating.
2. getting it safestrapped to be able to...
3. ...flash custom roms safely in the future,
Ive been looking around these forums to find out myself but information is scrambled and depending on version numbers and other things. The learning curve sure is steep here
/sebastian
My humble suggestion is to install TWRP (here) followed by the ROM of your choice. Each has pros/cons....stock is also an option. You will need to do some reading, plan carefully and be prepared for the unexpected. Keep that pup in 'airplane' mode to prevent debilitating OTA updates until you identify and apply an appropriate blocker. I think you will find the community quite willing to help with specific questions but you probably won't get a start-to-finish recipe. Lots of reading ahead but the rewards are worth it IMO. Good luck!
Thanks for the reply! Good to hear that airplane mode can be a temporary update blocker! I'll do some more reading up on TWRP to begin with then.
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Thanks for the reply! Good to hear that airplane mode can be a temporary update blocker! I'll do some more reading up on TWRP to begin with then.
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Be carefull and dont use airplane mode to block updates while in stock! At least one user reported that amazon can update your kindle even with airplane mode on! If you setup your wifi already, just turn-off / forget your wifi while in stock, or use OTA blocker ...
Forgetting all WiFi networks is good advise indeed! I have seen Kindle readers pop out of airplane mode on occasion; suppose the same could happen on Fire/HDX tablets although I have not personally experienced this. OTA blocker is great (what I use) but obviously requires root.
OK, thanks everyone!
I'm good so far! I first rooted with towelroot then went for the toolkit. Installed the ADB drivers, then SU, then OTA blocker. After that I Installed safestrap, made a backup and a new rom-slot, to which I restored the recovery. So now I should be OTA blocked and have a stock ROM recovery option. I hope I haven't made any terrible mistakes yet
I'm a happy camper! (as of yet
Now I will do som reading up on HDXposed and custom roms I guess. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is the Nexus rom a good option?
Thanks again!
Ok Iplayed around some and read up some more. Now I can definitely see the benefits of going for the custom recovery! I have a few remaining questions about the specifics about flashing TWRP that I cant seem to find the answer to. Hope somewone would be kind enough to help or point me in the right direction.
Do I need to uninstall safestrap before (or after) flashing TWRP?
Is "Copy image to SD-card root" the same as copying it to the device file system root? As in draging and dropping in windows perhaps?
What is the tool for issuing the commands mentioned in the TWRP install guide? (I have used ADB but only via the Toolkit aplication and I havent seen a command prompt for this around).
Sorry for lacking in some fundamentals on this... (being a noob on android stuff)
Never mind the above. All sorted. Up and running HDX Nexus 2.0.5. Great stuff!