Hey guys,
My friend had my phone over the weekend, and he went and accidentally submerged it for (10 seconds) and took it out immediately. Everything seemed to work fine, so he kept on using it and gave it to me (w/o telling me) and I used it till it died (the battery was also <5 percent, so i'm not sure if something shorted or the batt died).
Either way, I've read up a bit on this forum and elsewhere and this is going to be my plan of action. If anything is wrong with it, or if I should do step 2 before step 1 or anything of that nature, please tell me:
1) Remove battery, sim card, ext-sd and let it sit in rice for 3 days. See if it works, if not step 2.
2) Get some 90% alcohol and soak phone after removing sim card, ext-sd and battery. Preheat oven to 125 degrees F and let it sit in there for 6 hours. Let it cool, open it up, clean with alcohol and a swab. See if it works, if not step 3.
3) Hopefully step 2 will have turned the water damage indicators from red to white --> Go to att service center, get it replaced.
I had some questions about the steps above:
Step 1:
i) Do I also put the sim card ext-sd and battery in the rice (separately)>
Step 2:
i) Does it matter what type of 90% alcohol? Does it have to be isopropyl, methanol or cleaning alcohol?
ii) Do i also soak the battery and cook it also?
iii) Do i take the phone apart and soak and dry individually or keep the phone intact?
General Question:
Does dissassembly of the phone void the warranty?
Thanks for the feedback guys and hope it never happens to you!
diabolical
Is that really a good idea? Submerging the phone in alcohol then cooking it does what?
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Edgarhighman said:
Is that really a good idea? Submerging the phone in alcohol then cooking it does what?
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Not sure, but this is the reasoning explained in an older thread on this forum:
"Any residual moisture still trapped inside the board layers will slowly develop copper dendrites and kill your phone. The only way to stop the process is to bake it out. This will also dry out your humi-dots and turn them white again. It may work for now but in a couple months the problems will get worse.
Just my $.02
Edit: Check out metallic electromigration phenomena. Exactly the reason for humi-dots and not honoring warranties on phones exposed to excessive moisture..'
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So from what I understand, the alcohol displaces the water out of the phone, and the oven heats up and makes everything evaporate. In this process, the humidot indicators also go from red --> white (allowing me to use the warranty)
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2) Get some 90% alcohol and soak phone after removing sim card, ext-sd and battery....i) Does it matter what type of 90% alcohol? Does it have to be isopropyl, methanol or cleaning alcohol?
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I am only commenting on the alcohol, and I'm not condoning you cheating the company. I have never had to do this, so only speaking my thoughts. The alcohol would be isopropal, although I don't think it would matter if you used one of the other types. However, 90% isopropal alcohol contains 10% water, and I've never understood using it to submerge electronics equipment. You can buy 99% isopropal alcohol at most drug stores, even at Walmart, although you will most likely have to special order it at the pharmacy. It is very nearly pure alcohol, with usually less than 1% contaminants and water.
I build electronic equipment, and the alcohol is one method of cleaning the flux from the board after parts are soldered on. 90% alcohol does not work effectively for this purpose because of the water.
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I am only commenting on the alcohol, and I'm not condoning you cheating the company. I have never had to do this, so only speaking my thoughts. The alcohol would be isopropal, although I don't think it would matter if you used one of the other types. However, 90% isopropal alcohol contains 10% water, and I've never understood using it to submerge electronics equipment. You can buy 99% isopropal alcohol at most drug stores, even at Walmart, although you will most likely have to special order it at the pharmacy. It is very nearly pure alcohol, with usually less than 1% contaminants and water.
I build electronic equipment, and the alcohol is one method of cleaning the flux from the board after parts are soldered on. 90% alcohol does not work effectively for this purpose because of the water.
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Thanks for the reply!
Yea, I really don't hope that it comes to that stage.. Hoping the rice trick or the alcohol + baking it out will remove all the water from there. I think ill try and clean the inside with alcohol and a swab after i bake it, and see if it turns on.
Edgarhighman said:
Is that really a good idea? Submerging the phone in alcohol then cooking it does what?
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Cook the rice on medium for 20 minutes, add the alcohol and phone to the mixture, let simmer for another 20 minutes, season with ginger and soy sauce for a delicious side dish! Try adding Bacon™ for more flavor......
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Quick update question... does disassembly of the phone void the warranty?
I dropped my phone down the toilet a few months ago. Thought I was done for, but I immediately took the phone out and got the battery out as fast as I could. After that I took apart the phone (our phone is actually really easy to disassemble) and blow dried it at medium heat setting for like an hour. Then I cleaned it with alcohol swabs on the inside and then blow dried it some more. Seemed pretty dry at this point. Put it all back together and haven't had any trouble since. The moisture strips are pink, but you can buy replacement strips online and just swap them out if it comes to that. Our phone is surprisingly resilient to water damage. there is a video online of a guy holding the phone under a faucet for a good ten minutes before things start to break.
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Hi -
I regretfully managed to drop my X10 in a toilet last night.... It's been a good 9 hours since at least and although initiallly it turned on when I started to charge it now it wont.
Now the red light if flashing when it is connected to the charger, and the screen is evidently a bit moist around the edges... EDIT: the phone just turned on so part of the issue was the battery being dead, but the screen slowly got darker and darker before switching off...
Is there any test for the phone company to see if it's water damaged?
Also, if I were to call them up and say there was an issue, I know they'd replace it with a straight exchange, so they wouldn't check it first.... Is it safe to do that?
Thanks
FIRST THINGS FIRST :
TURN OFF THE PHONE. NOW. Don't hang around, pull the battery out and DO NOT PUT IT IN.
Circuits are fine when in water, it's the corrosion and also when they have an electrical current put through them that the problem arises (when wet).
This WILL be tested when sent back if you call up and claim fault. The quickest way to visually test water damage is simple. Take off the back of your Xperia and at the top, exactly center (right above the camera) you'll see either a red and white chequered square OR a full red square (possibly part red/white but blotchy).
This SHOULD be chequered red and white but with water damage it makes it all red. Simple. No chance you can claim non damage now.
SECOND.
Put the phone in a bowl of rice(uncooked white rice). Now put the bowl of rice in a warm room or cupboard (preferably where your boiler is for your house?) or on top of a heater.
Leave it overnight and if it's on a heater DO NOT TURN THE HEATER OFF. Don't put the battery in the bowl, keep the battery separate and cooler but also make sure to avoid any water areas with it.
You could be lucky (I'll assume you will be but only time will tell) and this could fix it. It's worked on all my previous phones that I've water damaged (funnily enough I've only ever water damaged SEs) and also a few other circuit board based things I've used (one of them being a laptop!).
Please turn your phone off the SECOND you have read this post. Quickest way, battery pull.
Follow all the above steps and you should have a working xperia again.
Last note : if you dont have a heater to place a bowl of rice & xperia on top of, sit your phone in an empty room, turn a hair drier on and lay it next to it on medium heat setting on the lowest speed blowing against the phone. Should work too but make sure u can shut the door (annoying noise..)
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FIRST THINGS FIRST :
TURN OFF THE PHONE. NOW. Don't hang around, pull the battery out and DO NOT PUT IT IN.
Circuits are fine when in water, it's the corrosion and also when they have an electrical current put through them that the problem arises (when wet).
This WILL be tested when sent back if you call up and claim fault. The quickest way to visually test water damage is simple. Take off the back of your Xperia and at the top, exactly center (right above the camera) you'll see either a red and white chequered square OR a full red square (possibly part red/white but blotchy).
This SHOULD be chequered red and white but with water damage it makes it all red. Simple. No chance you can claim non damage now.
SECOND.
Put the phone in a bowl of rice(uncooked white rice). Now put the bowl of rice in a warm room or cupboard (preferably where your boiler is for your house?) or on top of a heater.
Leave it overnight and if it's on a heater DO NOT TURN THE HEATER OFF. Don't put the battery in the bowl, keep the battery separate and cooler but also make sure to avoid any water areas with it.
You could be lucky (I'll assume you will be but only time will tell) and this could fix it. It's worked on all my previous phones that I've water damaged (funnily enough I've only ever water damaged SEs) and also a few other circuit board based things I've used (one of them being a laptop!).
Please turn your phone off the SECOND you have read this post. Quickest way, battery pull.
Follow all the above steps and you should have a working xperia again.
Last note : if you dont have a heater to place a bowl of rice & xperia on top of, sit your phone in an empty room, turn a hair drier on and lay it next to it on medium heat setting on the lowest speed blowing against the phone. Should work too but make sure u can shut the door (annoying noise..)
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thank you so much for your advice. I'll give it a go. I don't have any white rice, just brown, will that make a difference?
Of course I'll go and buy white rice if I need it!
The square at the phone is blotchy.... but mostly red. you can still see slight shades of white though.. is this possible without water damage?
Also from what you've said, I really shouldn't have put the phone to charge. I think I left it charging for ast least 6 hours so now I feel like I've ruined it by doing that..
Thanks again )
Just another update. after almost 5 hours in the rice I inserted the battery and connected it to the charger. There was an improvement from before in that the phone turned on and stayed on, ALTHOUGH th screen was flickering, and it really wasn't responding very well - I couldn't actually unlock the device.
There's a visible different in the water movement though, in that there seemed to be some spread around the whole screen initially, and now it's in a small part of the bottom of the screen.
Any tips?
Also, could someone clarify whether Vodafone would class it as water damaged?
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Just another update. after almost 5 hours in the rice I inserted the battery and connected it to the charger. There was an improvement from before in that the phone turned on and stayed on, ALTHOUGH th screen was flickering, and it really wasn't responding very well - I couldn't actually unlock the device.
There's a visible different in the water movement though, in that there seemed to be some spread around the whole screen initially, and now it's in a small part of the bottom of the screen.
Any tips?
Also, could someone clarify whether Vodafone would class it as water damaged?
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well you dropped it in water and now its damaged, that seems like text book water damage to me =/
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Waiting 7 hours is not long enough...
Rice can only absorb moisture at a certain rate.
You should have wait much longer..
No offense, but your phone is toast. Rule number one is to NEVER turn on a water damaged device for at least a day after the incident. The phone was probably fine until you plugged it in.
You'll have to be on the hook for a new one. Your phone was water damaged and will not be covered under warranty.
Also, your grammar needs improvement. I found it really difficult to follow what you were writing because it made little sense.
Stop playing with it and leave it in the rice another day.
Then pray
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1. Diasassemble the Phone and put the PCB for 24hrs in 99% Isopropyle Alcohol. Not 50%, not 70% --> 99%.
2. Then take it out and let it dry for 48hrs.
3. Now reflash it (the SW is/may be corrupted).
I reanimated 80% of 200 Water-, Beer-, Pool-, Toilet-, and so on damaged Phones I repaired in the past...
Hey tuffy, sorry for the absence was at work till 10 last night then went straight to sleep lol.
I was going to give you similar advice to McKebapp however I thought the easiest option would be to give you common-to-find objects and make it easier as actually locating 99% Isopropyle is next to impossible unless you know exactly what it is!
Anyways, brown is fine - rice is rice it still takes in water. Only issue is it takes boiled water in at a rate almost 150 times faster than luke-warm or cold (which is what the water inside your phone will be).
If at all possible, do what McKebbap said but maybe avoid putting the PCB in alcohol, stick to the rice as it's bone dry and although, theoretically, so is the alcohol it'll be easier than trying to clean it all off afterwards.
If you can't dismantle it down (basically we need as much air-space between the PCB and well.. the air/rice!) then just put it back in fresh rice and leave it with the back off and battery out for another 24 hours or so, again in a warm area (needs to be warm for the water to rise).
Please, DO NOT TRY TO TURN IT ON WITHIN THIS TIME. Personally i'd actually be quite inclined to leave it for about 3 days but changing the rice (or mixing it) each day.
Good luck mate.
Oh and to answer your question : it's not possible for it to become blotchy or anything other than just squares of red/white without water buddy. it's designed for phone companies to , at a quick glance, check water damage cause guess what, besides dropping the phone, is the most common return reason ;-)
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I was going to give you similar advice to McKebapp however I thought the easiest option would be to give you common-to-find objects and make it easier as actually locating 99% Isopropyle is next to impossible unless you know exactly what it is!
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Each Pharmacy should have it for sale.
They maybe ask for what you'll use it.
Simply tell them the truth (cleaning electronics) or say, you'll need it to clean guitar strings from colophony.
Then everything should be fine.
So what happened? How's the phone?
How about the beer test in the good ol' days of the R310s
D3sRtH4mmR said:
So what happened? How's the phone?
How about the beer test in the good ol' days of the R310s
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Even if it is Off Topic...
YMMD
I've still got one orange R310s I still regualry make use of.
You simply can't destroy it.
I once even went snorkeling with it.
*remembering-the-good-'ol,-Sony-free,-pure-Ericsson-times*
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Even if it is Off Topic...
YMMD
I've still got one orange R310s I still regualry make use of.
You simply can't destroy it.
I once even went snorkeling with it.
*remembering-the-good-'ol,-Sony-free,-pure-Ericsson-times*
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Indeed, the awesome days of Ericsson phones! My R380s still works!
Back on topic, I hope Tuffy11 managed to salvage the X10.
U can get isopropyl from any pharmacy. You should follow mckebapps guide. Check his posts out, he knows whats up. ;-)
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D3sRtH4mmR said:
Indeed, the awesome days of Ericsson phones! My R380s still works!
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Mine r520m works fine except bluetooth. In 2006 Ericsson didn't support this model anymore, so I switched to k790a that works fine for now. Even now with 3.2 Mp camera it does better job in dark sets, than X10. When I read specs I was surprised that they didn't use xenon flash. It is a kind of a bad joke for flagship model.
Returning to water damage - it is enough just to leave a phone for a week in regular room environment. Of course, I mean average environment, not like in rain season somewhere in rainforest. Alcohol (any kind - regular ethanol or isopropyl) absorbs water, but dries faster, than water, so this bath just significantly reduces water concentration. By the way, don't try to find 99% of consumer ethanol - it doesn't exist. 96% is the best (190 proof in the US or 175 degrees proof in UK). For isopropyl regular distillation gives 87.9% max. Azeotropic distillation produces higher percentage for both these spirits, but I doubt you can find it in regular stores. Closed areas, where water was suck in remain problematic. Moreover, when water finally dries out, it leaves mineral salts. It is not a big deal at circuit plates since those salts are electric safe (except sea water salts), but in clear areas like between screen layers they will be visible.
And again - if you want to kill any electronics most effective way, turn it on when it is wet. If you want to save it - be patient.
Hopefully this will help some poor schmucks that manage to do the #3 in the toilet (common enough so I call it #3).
If there is ****, just let go man, really.
If there is piss, likely more damage has been done so chances of recovery are slimmer (salty water is more conductive).
If clean water then likely the phone will work but some hardware might not survive (like the camera, ....)
In any case, remove the battery IMMEDIATELY!
Wipe battery dry. Leave alone and forget about it for 3-4 days.
Shake out as much water as possible out of the phone and let it dry for a week. You can safely use a hair dryer to warm it up to speed the evaporation. Do it twice a day.
If you want, dunk the phone in 99% rubbing alcohol for 10-20 seconds, swish it around. Take it out and forget you had a phone for 3-4 of days.
I never dropped one into the loo but I did go swimming with two phones and both survived (mostly).
It doesn't work, won't turn on, take out battery and plugged into charger it doesn't turn on.
I'm assuming I need a disassembly guide (looked for and couldn't find) and how to figure out what's broken and where to find parts. btw I live in Australia.
Any help is appreciated.
Thank you
There is a fix rule when electrical devices come in contact with water, you don't try to power them on and you don't try to charge them!!
The best you could do is to open the phone and let it dry out! leave it drying for days!
I suppose you could use a hair dryer...
If you are lucky it will work..if not you've probaly short circuited it...
btw, here's your guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyT618lVxUs
Hanzo.Hasashi said:
There is a fix rule when electrical devices come in contact with water, you don't try to power them on and you don't try to charge them!!
The best you could do is to open the phone and let it dry out! leave it drying for days!
I suppose you could use a hair dryer...
If you are lucky it will work..if not you've probaly short circuited it...
btw, here's your guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyT618lVxUs
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never ever use a hairdryer!
just put it it down somewhere turn i around every 30 min this way it will not cause any corrosion but yeah when you sleep you cant turn itaround so before you go to bed and then after but keep the water moving it is better!
it sounds not better but it is!
like the guy above me said dont turn it on don't try to charge it
and try it over around 4-7 days
and ofc cross your fingers and pray
let us know how it goes
Fill a cup with Isopropanol Alcohol, and drop the phone in.
Seal the lid.
Leave somewhere for a could hours, shaking around a little every so often to get the fluid into every nook and cranny.
Remove phone and shake out fluid. Leave sitting wrapped in a towel in a warm place (airing cupboard etc) but nowhere too hot.
That SHOULD get all the water out, however you probably already destoyed it by plugging it in.
Put in a jar filled with raw rice or a container containing semi-powdered quicklime it will ofc absorb water and let it dry for 4-5 days and try charging or turning it on...hope my reply ain't too late
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Strange but true, you should have DIRECTLY put it in raw rice.
That will absorb the water greatly.
Put ur phone out of water. Dont turn on ur phone. Put ur device in some place by about 1 day and dont touch it!... then try again.
Rice is the answer! It sucks all the water away in a week... although i would leave it 2, just to be 100% sure
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Sorry guys this happened like a week or two ago now. Took the battery out asap, left it for two days, hair dried it and then tried and it didn't work. I plugged it into the charger to see if it was just the battery that's ****ed, apparently just the battery is dead.
It was in a pool, so chlorine could have corroded some parts? Could I try to clean off the corrosion, replace parts etc. Or would it be cheaper to send to sony ericsson and get them to fix it?
Sony will just replace the whole phone and charge you a repair fee iirc.
Isopropanol may help with corrosion, but you need to strip the phone down to bare boards and parts, and soak it in the alcohol, then brush at with a SOFT toothbrush and gentle motions.
Isopropanol dries fast and leaves no residue, so it's ideal for loosening gunk and driving out water. I've used it with great success to salvage laptops filled with everything from cola to beer as well as waterlogged wristwatches.
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Sorry guys this happened like a week or two ago now. Took the battery out asap, left it for two days, hair dried it and then tried and it didn't work. I plugged it into the charger to see if it was just the battery that's ****ed, apparently just the battery is dead.
It was in a pool, so chlorine could have corroded some parts? Could I try to clean off the corrosion, replace parts etc. Or would it be cheaper to send to sony ericsson and get them to fix it?
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few days ago my mini pro also dripped into water i instantly removed battery
so may be damage not done to much but after that i removed water by wiping with cloth & than place it near hot air remover heater
after that i opened it thoroughly each & every part & u know water is in each & every part so i opened whole phone screen main board camera keyboard etc. & than i used hair dryer to remove water from every part of phone don't place all parts too much close to the phone or don't use hair drier for too long continuously but u can easily able to know that part is dried or not
after that in main board also u can dry it with hair dryer after u can convinced that there is no water particles remain in phone lets switch on it
after this all i done i start my phone successfully with all features working after 2 hours
& now just my keyboard lights are not working, they are working but only for 2 seconds so i have no prob with that however i give it to service center to short it out but yes this is the only solution u can get your phone working!!
if u want some help ask me
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Fill a cup with Isopropanol Alcohol, and drop the phone in.
Seal the lid.
Leave somewhere for a could hours, shaking around a little every so often to get the fluid into every nook and cranny.
Remove phone and shake out fluid. Leave sitting wrapped in a towel in a warm place (airing cupboard etc) but nowhere too hot.
That SHOULD get all the water out, however you probably already destoyed it by plugging it in.
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This is the best solution but since its been a while now it probably wont work, and also because your already tried charging it and turning it on. Personally i would send it to say and get then to fix, but it may even be cheaper to buy a new device as basic warrenty will not cover water damage.
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evilbarcode.
Good morning everyone. This morning was not a good morning for me, as I was feeding and watering my dog my phone slipped out of my jacket pocket and dropped into the dogs water bowl. It was in the water for less than a second, initially everything seemed fine there was barely any water behind the battery cover so I dried all that out and shook the phone to make sure there was no water in it's ports. Then shortly after that its USB port started going wonky(started acting like I was connecting USB cable and disconnecting it over and over), and my touch buttons at bottom of screen seem to stop working which makes doing anything damn near impossible. The USB plug seems to work as I've got it plugged up and its charging fine, but now my PC says USB unrecognized device. What I want to know is will these things work themselves out, is there something I can do to help them, or am I screwed?
Thanks for helping.
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Good morning everyone. This morning was not a good morning for me, as I was feeding and watering my dog my phone slipped out of my jacket pocket and dropped into the dogs water bowl. It was in the water for less than a second, initially everything seemed fine there was barely any water behind the battery cover so I dried all that out and shook the phone to make sure there was no water in it's ports. Then shortly after that its USB port started going wonky(started acting like I was connecting USB cable and disconnecting it over and over), and my touch buttons at bottom of screen seem to stop working which makes doing anything damn near impossible. The USB plug seems to work as I've got it plugged up and its charging fine, but now my PC says USB unrecognized device. What I want to know is will these things work themselves out, is there something I can do to help them, or am I screwed?
Thanks for helping.
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It is more then likely ruined. When ever a phone gets wet you should immediately remove the battery and put the phone In A large bag of rice for 3 days. No less then 72 hours and you have a very good shot at being OK. For phones that have been completely submerged and are water logged I would do 3 days of rice and then a quick dip In rubbing alcohol and then another day of rice. The alcohol prevents corrosion on the electrical solder connections. I hope you have insurance. You can try the rice now but since you supplied voltage to a wet circuit the damage is done. O and when I say a quick dip in alcohol I mean remove the screen and only dip the circuit board.
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Thanks for the reply, but I think I got lucky. My USB port has stopped acting up and I was actually able to see contents of my phone thru the pc. Also my buttons are working fine again maybe there was a slight bit of water crossing circuits and it finally dried up.
The best way to dry it up, if it ever happens again is to use uncooked rice. Put the phone (with the cover open and the everything pull out) in the container with the rice covering it. Depending on how wet it got, it might take a few days ( 2 - 4) for it to completely dried up.
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It is more then likely ruined. When ever a phone gets wet you should immediately remove the battery and put the phone In A large bag of rice for 3 days. No less then 72 hours and you have a very good shot at being OK. For phones that have been completely submerged and are water logged I would do 3 days of rice and then a quick dip In rubbing alcohol and then another day of rice. The alcohol prevents corrosion on the electrical solder connections. I hope you have insurance. You can try the rice now but since you supplied voltage to a wet circuit the damage is done. O and when I say a quick dip in alcohol I mean remove the screen and only dip the circuit board.
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The best way to dry it up, if it ever happens again is to use uncooked rice. Put the phone (with the cover open and the everything pull out) in the container with the rice covering it. Depending on how wet it got, it might take a few days ( 2 - 4) for it to completely dried up.
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Arent you also supposed to put it in the sun, so it heats up and evaporates the water from inside the phone and then the rice absorbs it... or is that old news and overkill?
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Arent you also supposed to put it in the sun, so it heats up and evaporates the water from inside the phone and then the rice absorbs it... or is that old news and overkill?
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The sun only dry the outside part of the device. There will be moisure inside device (sometime) that will stay for a while. In order to get rid of the moisure from the inside of the device (if it is excessive water got in) is to use the rice.
In this case it might be excessive and overkill (since the device still works). But then I have mentioned that if next time. Sorry that I didn't indicated that if the device won't come on after sun drying, then use this method...
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The sun only dry the outside part of the device. There will be moisure inside device (sometime) that will stay for a while. In order to get rid of the moisure from the inside of the device (if it is excessive water got in) is to use the rice.
In this case it might be excessive and overkill (since the device still works). But then I have mentioned that if next time. Sorry that I didn't indicated that if the device won't come on after sun drying, then use this method...
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I think you misunderstood him... he's not saying put the phone in the sun, he's saying put the bowl of rice with the phone in it in the sun. That supplies heat which facilitates the process of water evaporating. I wouldn't leave it in direct sunlight though, just in a warm place near a window maybe.
mine dropped in toilet
2 days in rice with small bag of desiccant inside of phone(take battery out)
desiccant will dry out faster
I'd use some Lysol after that one
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When mine fell in a cup of water, I put it in a bowl of rice, and then put the bowl over a scentsy warmer. The small light bulb in the warmer gently heated the bowl, without getting it too hot.
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I just had my phone "waterproofed" by a company last week, just in case. A friend of mine demonstrated the effectiveness on his iphone 4 and I instantly wanted to have it too as I use my phone as a GPS unit on my motorcycle. I live only a few minutes away and walked in to have it done. I can't attest to their shipping: http://www.liquipel.com/
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I think you misunderstood him... he's not saying put the phone in the sun, he's saying put the bowl of rice with the phone in it in the sun. That supplies heat which facilitates the process of water evaporating. I wouldn't leave it in direct sunlight though, just in a warm place near a window maybe.
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Oops. I missed read it for sure. Sorry. LOL
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A few phones ago I tried the rice rescue method, but after a couple of days the rice caked up around the device and was a bother to try to chip away. Later, someone pointed out that I should not have cooked the rice.
I dropped plenty of phones in different liquids.
Nokia in a cup.of crown
Lg I'm the tub
Samsung in the washing machine this one was my i777
Samsung in the toilet
HTC in the toilet
and the rice trick had always worked for these expect for my bb curve. My daughter was slubbing all over it. it's Been a few months and it's still not working
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Hey guys, I've been in love with my phone for the past two weeks. Now I'm on Vacay oversees. This phone is so damn light I didn't even realize they were in my swim trunks. Then boom it hit me 1 min later, phone in pocket and in the pool!!
Anyone with experience dropping it water or any advice regarding preventing further damage?
Bury it in a bowl of uncooked rice for a day or more. It will dry it out. There may be damage to the screen, or some contacts may be shorted, but this will help minimize damage. Also give it a few days to heal, some problems might go away as the last bits of water evaporate out.
sosobri said:
Hey guys, I've been in love with my phone for the past two weeks. Now I'm on Vacay oversees. This phone is so damn light I didn't even realize they were in my swim trunks. Then boom it hit me 1 min later, phone in pocket and in the pool!!
Anyone with experience dropping it water or any advice regarding preventing further damage?
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Dont turn it on, put it in rice for 48+ hours.
During those 48 hours, pray.
Good luck!
Damp rid
Go to the hardware and get some damp rid. Place the phone in a small tupperware, place that in a larger tupperware with the damp rid in it and seal for a week. I have received 2 phones this way.
Take it apart and blowdry, that's the only way for sure, assuming you haven't tried to turn it on, good luck...
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Put in a insurance claim and forget it.
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My OG 4G was submerged and I brought it back to life with no issues.
1. Like others have said do not turn the phone on
2. Do not blow dry the phone, if you have concerns with the contaminants in the pool water you CAN give the phone an alcohol wipe down. Alcohol evaporates quickly and can help to draw excess water out of small crevices while cleaning contacts, boards, etc
3. SETUP a drying chamber like others have recommended. Either using the rice
method or using a desiccant like Damp Rid. Put that in a shoe box along with
the phone and tightly seal it. 3 days minimum up to a full week. It took my
OG 5 days to come around.
That kind of rice works better, long grain, short grain, broken rice, Jasmine?
You need to take it apart and clean it NOW.
Pool water is highly clorinated. Chlorine is a corrosive.
Even drying it out or using rice will still damage the device. The water / chlorine are already in the device. Since its got a non removable battery the unit will still have power running to parts of it.
What needs to happen is
1, file a claim and replace it.
2. If you can get it apart. remove the battery and start to clean it with isopropoyl alchohol or contact cleaning solution.
But my guess is since it actually went underwater the LCD will have spots on it as well.
At this point its probably going to be a bad device.
easy way to turn it off, if on still, hold power for 10 sec, when in off state, hold vol down, boot into bootloader, select fastboot, select power down.
Don't use a blower that will accelerate the oxidation on the circuits.
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Thanks for the suggestions guys, I think I might have to say one good prayer in hopes of getting this device to work. Im in the Philippines so my phone doesn't have signal anyways I just mainly up use it as a wifi device, the real problem is when I get home. But if I do file a claim now maybe I'll have one waiting for me when I get back from vacation. Thanks for the help
Let the phone sit for a day or two, or until majority of the water evaporates naturally. (do not put in sun or apply direct heat, as it will make your screen fog and cause bubbles etc.) When majority of the water is out then take a blow dryer on cool or normal (not hot or warm) and apply to phone covering all areas for at least 30 mins. You need to take of the back plastic face plate as it is easy to remove and will easily hold water. If you can watch a video on how to access the batter (if you cant find one there are some for the One X line witch is very similar in build). If water is near the battery or any electrical circuits it could easily fry. If you are unsure if the water is not completely out of it you have either not waited long enough or applied enough air to the phone. Good Luck and Remember do not turn on wet electronics! THAT'S A NO-NO!!!
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Take it apart and blowdry, that's the only way for sure, assuming you haven't tried to turn it on, good luck...
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Blow dry as in a can of air. Not a blow dryer.
Don't forget a pool has chlorine in the water. It may even be worth rinsing. Then blow dry and then let it sit.
Take the rear cover off. Was gonna say remove the battery too, lol. But the sealed tupperware/bag of white rice works. Be patient as hard as that is.
water logged phone
I like the insurance claim option the best also, I suspect that if it comes around, it will never be the same again, and I would be concerned that one day, for no particular reason, it will simply stop working.
Get a new phone, and call it a day. These things happen dude
The key is to get it apart and get every bit of water out/dried, I guess I shoulda mentioned to watch aspects of things to not get hot, however a regular blow dryer on low or cool shouldn't hurt anything, it will be a delicate process. First things first though, get the battery out, do not try and turn it on. I've fixed thousands of microelectronic boards, traces, solder points, and water damage accounts for about 75% of most of what I've seen. If you aren't comfortable with this as most wouldn't be, find someone who is or try some kind of tep, tsp, whatever but it doesn't sound like that's an option... Good luck and follow up, I'd like to hear how it turns out...
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Today i went swimming an my kid took off with my phone an it went into the pool. I was told it was water proof an when i pool it out the phone turns gray an powers off.. ive gotten it wet before by accident an it was just fine.. i have it in rice now but im asking is it a goner?
Could be. They are not waterproof, they are splash resistant. Still wish it's only a minor incident
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Its been in rice for 14 hrs should I try plug it in? I don't want to fry it...
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Its been in rice for 14 hrs should I try plug it in? I don't want to fry it...
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The best way at least that i can think of is to manually disassemble the phone and wipe it to dry by yourself,rise wont make it dry,try to power on the phone in a week or so,when the phone is dry.
chlorine h2o damage
DanielMod said:
The best way at least that i can think of is to manually disassemble the phone and wipe it to dry by yourself,rise wont make it dry,try to power on the phone in a week or so,when the phone is dry.
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Actually rice is a natural absorbent, it can in fact, save your phone as it has with my iPod Touch 32gb, though not a razr, it has all similar mobile device components inside, and I didn't even take it apart, left it in a Tupperware full of rice for a few days, after I used a good hair-dryer to evaporate the large stuff. We're still talking about a non-serviceable internal battery (just like our Droid RAZR).
Even though it didn't properly start-up within a day after leaving it in the rice for a few days, the darn thing started right up as if right out of the box about a week later.
So lesson learned, technology is amazing, unpredictable, and very servicable, no matter what.
Though, the idea of taking it apart is a good one because by having water damage your warranty is voided atm.
Go for it!!! :good:
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Actually rice is a natural absorbent, it can in fact, save your phone as it has with my iPod Touch 32gb, though not a razr, it has all similar mobile device components inside, and I didn't even take it apart, left it in a Tupperware full of rice for a few days, after I used a good hair-dryer to evaporate the large stuff. We're still talking about a non-serviceable internal battery (just like our Droid RAZR).
Even though it didn't properly start-up within a day after leaving it in the rice for a few days, the darn thing started right up as if right out of the box about a week later.
So lesson learned, technology is amazing, unpredictable, and very servicable, no matter what.
Though, the idea of taking it apart is a good one because by having water damage your warranty is voided atm.
Go for it!!! :good:
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Taking it apart will not stop the warranty from being voided. There is a water sensor that was activated the moment it got wet and cannot be returned to its original state.
Rice only gets rid of humidity, corrosion will start anyway. It WILL destroy the phone sooner or later.
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Taking it apart will not stop the warranty from being voided. There is a water sensor that was activated the moment it got wet and cannot be returned to its original state.
Rice only gets rid of humidity, corrosion will start anyway. It WILL destroy the phone sooner or later.
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yeah happened to my girlfriend evo 3d wouldnt charge after awhile... im really not good with taking things apart.. lol also i tried pluging it in it went to the charging part when it boots up with charger, but wouldnt power on fully.. an eventually started rebooting over n over so back in rice for couple days i guess hope i didnt fry it...
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yeah happened to my girlfriend evo 3d wouldnt charge after awhile... im really not good with taking things apart.. lol also i tried pluging it in it went to the charging part when it boots up with charger, but wouldnt power on fully.. an eventually started rebooting over n over so back in rice for couple days i guess hope i didnt fry it...
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There is a 'sonic' bath or somethiing like that that you can perform that is supopsed to get rid of corosion, but you would have to find someone with equipment to do that. Assuming of course that connecting it to the charger did not fry it.
Sorry to hear about your badluck.
Disconnect from btty.
Chlorine should dissipate but you could have problems if you tried charging prior to the phone being fully dry, or if the btty was left in for too long. Alcohol is usually used to clean electronics but I forgot what type doesn't leave a residue.
The rice bath for a couple of days should dry the phone (alcohol also helps to dry the phone), but I would be concerned about btty damage. The content of the btty could have leaked.
If you have insurance turn it in!
i remember using rubbing alcohol, aka methanol should work. try taking a look at XDA tv. there was one instance the guy was *****ing about the Razr not having a removable battery and he opened his galaxy nexus and dipped it in methanol
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Taking it apart will not stop the warranty from being voided. There is a water sensor that was activated the moment it got wet and cannot be returned to its original state.
Rice only gets rid of humidity, corrosion will start anyway. It WILL destroy the phone sooner or later.
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newowner said:
Sorry to hear about your badluck.
Disconnect from btty.
Chlorine should dissipate but you could have problems if you tried charging prior to the phone being fully dry, or if the btty was left in for too long. Alcohol is usually used to clean electronics but I forgot what type doesn't leave a residue.
The rice bath for a couple of days should dry the phone (alcohol also helps to dry the phone), but I would be concerned about btty damage. The content of the btty could have leaked.
If you have insurance turn it in!
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So just say the battery failed on me? Ik theyll be able to tell its water damaged but lol yeah.. So just call n say that?
Hell yeah survived lol i love my razr!
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So just say the battery failed on me? Ik theyll be able to tell its water damaged but lol yeah.. So just call n say that?
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Insurance will cover anything.
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if you do take it apart pick up some Denatured Alcohol from a Home Depot type store and use that to clean the inside. It will help prevent corrosion and it is perfectly safe to use on any part of the phone.
My friend had the same thing happen, he took off the back took out only the battery, then grabbed alcohol 99% and distilled water, made a 50/50 solution and put it in a ultrasonic jewelry cleaner for like 30 min, then in a bag of silica gell (those tiny paper bags that say to not eat) Left it there for 2 days, works just fine.
Rice fixed it two days open sd card slot n it working like a charm
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