i do not have a windows computer so i cant get s off.
which means i cant get ICS on my amaze.
this made me sad but then i thought that once flashable roms come out i will be able to just do that but i heard that i still need to be s off.
will someone shed some light on my problem or will i just have to face the truth
S-OFF Needed...
so face it....xD
Xboarder is making a flashable zip that's debloated and rooted.
DAMN YOU MAC
and you were supposed to be the answer to all my problems!
sigh
oh well. i dont mind ill probably just go back to my mytouch 4g, the dev support is pretty much equal on both.
i had such high hopes for this phone
You dont need s-off to flash the ics ruu. Countless people with stock none s-off, none rooted amaze have flashed the ruu perfectly fine through hboot.
Read through the ics ruu thread, they have alot of explenations there.
coupetastic-droid said:
You dont need s-off to flash the ics ruu. Countless people with stock none s-off, none rooted amaze have flashed the ruu perfectly fine through hboot.
Read through the ics ruu thread, they have alot of explenations there.
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The only part is, it can prevent from doing S-Off if you flash it without it. Also, if you have to send the phone in to T-Mobile for warranty, it'll void it.
well...
would i still be able to retain root after flashing with s-on
also on a side note, even if i am rooted, will i be able to send my phone in for repairs and still have it under warranty because i still have like another year and a half with this phone and part of the phones screen doesnt work anymore.
dude, just run a virtual box of windows on your mac.... PROBLEM SOLVED
familydude99 said:
would i still be able to retain root after flashing with s-on
also on a side note, even if i am rooted, will i be able to send my phone in for repairs and still have it under warranty because i still have like another year and a half with this phone and part of the phones screen doesnt work anymore.
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yes you would still be able to obtain root.
I have ics s-on unlocked and rooted with recovery
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i dont see a point to S-OFF
they will make it compatible with Amaze ICS, they did it for the sensation and Rezound, so there will always be a way to get S-OFF when the official release is available
so the only disadvantages of not having s off and getting ics is
because so many people had made it sound like your phone will explode if its not s off
thanks everybody for the help, thanks button will be clicked!
hasoon2000 said:
The only part is, it can prevent from doing S-Off if you flash it without it. Also, if you have to send the phone in to T-Mobile for warranty, it'll void it.
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....um if u do s-off you void your warranty.
bmbrad said:
....um if u do s-off you void your warranty.
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If u unlock bootloader u void it
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S-Off can be reflagged to S-On. HTC keeps a record of unlocked, which does void your warranty if they prove used, which they can't and it is not in the fine print that they have the right to find out if used. So, in theory, you're pretty much safe for warranty which has been proved in Rezound and Sensation forums for unlocked users. The only problem is if you crash before it is able to get S-On through ADB. If they actually check, you may end up with an insurance claim instead. Its not as bad or harsh as they make it sound. We make up maybe 1% of Android users and a slightly larger percent of HTC users.
Edit: An HBOOT can be edit to remove tampered, show locked and then device reflagged to be proper.
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familydude99 said:
i do not have a windows computer so i cant get s off.
which means i cant get ICS on my amaze.
this made me sad but then i thought that once flashable roms come out i will be able to just do that but i heard that i still need to be s off.
will someone shed some light on my problem or will i just have to face the truth
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Just virtualbox win7 or linux or dual boot
sportsstar89 said:
Just virtualbox win7 or linux or dual boot
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I hate to advocate piracy, but...
1: pirate Xp
2: install inside Virtualbox
3:........
4: profit
Or, you know, find someone else with a windows (or preferably linux) computer.
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VVVV or do what sportsstar89 said below this, Virtualbox with Linux, the S-Off tool worked flawlessly in Ubuntu for me.
jmhalder said:
I hate to advocate piracy, but...
1: pirate Xp
2: install inside Virtualbox
3:........
4: profit
Or, you know, find someone else with a windows (or preferably linux) computer.
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Don't even pirate just dl ubuntu and put it in a virtual box there is a linux version
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Related
To get S-Off, has anyone tried rolling back to the old RUU (Prerelease) and using HTC Dev? It probably won't work, but it might be worth a shot...
htc dev wont work,they arent going to give an unlock key,it doesnt matter what firmware we are running.
from what i can gather,zergRush works,we need to be able to disable emmc write protect so that a new hboot can be written. im assuming the usual exploits for this are not working,or it would be out by now.
it may be possible that an older ruu may be more "exploitable" i dont reeally know.
i hope some breakthrus come... i hate to think htc devices are going to become "unlockable" like moto i like the rezound but have got to hold out till it has at least a software s-off.
id also be happy with clip support,since i have one of them
edit: htc dev unlock is a joke anyway. i do appreciate the efforts on their part to satisfy the root community,but it is not an s-off. what you get,is an unlocked s-on hboot that lets you change recovery,boot,and system. no radio or hboot changes,and no backwards RUUs without rewriting the misc image.
its unfortunately far from the freedom from a true unsecured bootloader. it may well be good enuff for most folks,but im not happy with that.
It's a good thought tho. Yeah the htc method for the EVO users sucked. I Mena u could still flash roms and such bit they had to have a stock kernel as a default In order to flashed em thru recovery. But I wouldn't be to happy with that either. So I can't blame ya. But if that all we were offered then I would have to live with it.
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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i would wait. we waited for evo 3d root far longer.
it really is a great phone. read engadgets review. they really explain the screen resolution very well with graphs. its sold as a music phone but at this time it is the best screen res in the world. the nexus and razor are inferior in that area. watching hd video on it is pretty cool
disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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htc has been locking their bootloaders,this is nothing new. in the past,its just been easy to find work arounds to either turn of the radio secure flag off,or to sneek an eng hboot(that pretends the radio is s-off ) onto the device,and its always happend quickly,in most cases before the device even came out.
to my knowledge there is not encription,like there is with moto bootloaders,ist just that we currently have no way to write a new hboot in place of the current one.
if there is not a real engineering hboot for the rezound,its not too difficult to patch a stock hboot to not do radio checks,and to provide fastboot commands,and even protect itself from being overwritten(all these are characteristics of the revolutionary hboot), its just a matter of an exploit to get it in place.
i know i sort of started that ball rolling with my comment, but i wouldnt give up just yet. hopefully someone whose smarter than us will figure it out. or the clip will support it. or both
im not saying i wont get it,but im still happy with my thunderbolt,i dont need a new phone yet,so i will wait untill we have s-off,or possibly until 4 core processors come out next year
disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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C'mon, the phone hasn't even been out a week. It takes time, but the devs almost always find a way in.
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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fernando sor said:
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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That was the rumor. I never got in to see for myself, but heard more than a few actual devs say it was.
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Well if it helps, the RUU didn't work. It aborted midway through and gave an HBOOT error. I might try again, but it's probably not worth losing my data for.
If it can be done xtc clip will do it and if they can do it alpha rev and unrevoked will pull it off as well let's just give them some time.... I'm not worried at all at the moment
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I still have some time before I can get my upgrade so maybe it will be unlocked before then. This phone is on my list of phones I like. Sorry for messing up the thread. Good luck guys
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
scotty1223 said:
if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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Wow that's a great thought. But the hboot would remain the same. Wiether u had 1.30 or 1.40 to begin with. They never released there exploit tho. I know it had to do with the kernel and htc patched it with the 2.08 update. Bastards LOL.
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So its just a way to put different stock software on a phone, lol what a fail.
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pretty much..HTC has gotten better and better plugging there holes. For the EVO 3D we had some of the best DEVs working on it. Def wasnt easy for them, but now if u dont have an older Hboot you cant use AlphaREvs method. WEll hopefully they'll figure ours out as wel
Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
jasonpantuliano said:
Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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I'm sure they are working on it they are quit to do it.... You can always contact them on twitter
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Do you know what their twitter name is. Probably unrevoked and alpharev?
Just seen jcase post that the rezound is on the unlock bootloader list on htcdev.com and he don't know if its a accident or what so you need to jump on it asap Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Though Unlisted, HTC Rezound Unlockable via HTCDev Tools http://bit.ly/tm4HPD (Phandroid article)
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Just did mine.
What is this? Exactly.. can someone elaborate ? Is that unlocked bootloader thing for real?
You guys need to tell everyone if they use the HTC unlock then HTC has their phone info any can deny warranty repairs to their phones.
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siiiiiiiick.
let's get some s-offy goodness!
woah, wait.....Im not new to flashing and modding, but I am very new to the HTC scene. Do we individually have to unlock the bootloader ourselves? Or is it something the devs do? If we (invidually) dont unlock today do you think that HTC will stop letting us tomorrow? I just dont want to kill my phone.
putney1477 said:
woah, wait.....Im not new to flashing and modding, but I am very new to the HTC scene. Do we individually have to unlock the bootloader ourselves? Or is it something the devs do? If we (invidually) dont unlock today do you think that HTC will stop letting us tomorrow? I just dont want to kill my phone.
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We individually unlock it. It's super easy. The instructions gives you screen shots of what to do. I just unlocked mine. Took about 5-10 minutes. I'm sure it will be available tomorrow but I didn't waste any time.
Tough to tell whether HTC did this on purpose or not. They very well might pull it later after they realize it/Verizon *****es them out.
I would at least go get the unlock token now, even if you don't want to use it right now.
Jason
I'll just wait for the devs to set it up where I don't have to give my phone info to vzw and htc. Might need my warranty some day.
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Doesn't void your warranty to just get the unlock token... Only after you install it. But whatever.
Jason
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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LTE 4G Rezound
Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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JasonJoel said:
Doesn't void your warranty to just get the unlock token... Only after you install it. But whatever.
Jason
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How do you get the unlock token? do you have to register or what?
antawnm26 said:
How do you get the unlock token? do you have to register or what?
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http://www.htcdev.com/
Click on Unlock Bootloader. Follow directions. If you don't want to install the token, stop at the point that it emails you the token.
Jason
alcantarvf said:
Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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This is what I would love to know
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jbh00jh said:
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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alcantarvf said:
Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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This htcdev.com unlock will allow you to flash custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries. Sadly radios, hboot/bootloader, and I believe splash screens are a no go. Also, some things must be flashed via fastboot as opposed to recovery. (ie kernels) Considering this phone has some new security tricks not seen before its an ok trade while you wait for s-off IMO. I don't know if it will bring s-off any closer but I doubt it. I can't speak to the warranty situation but I would advise reading all the terms and conditions before proceeding. However consider this.....rooting your phone technically voids your warranty....
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JBO1018 said:
This htcdev.com unlock will allow you to flash custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries. Sadly radios, hboot/bootloader, and I believe splash screens are a no go. Also, some things must be flashed via fastboot as opposed to recovery. (ie kernels) Considering this phone has some new security tricks not seen before its an ok trade while you wait for s-off IMO. I don't know if it will bring s-off any closer but I doubt it. I can't speak to the warranty situation but I would advise reading all the terms and conditions before proceeding. However consider this.....rooting your phone technically voids your warranty....
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So can we get perm root with this at least or no? Been waiting to flash some fonts on this thing thanks.
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Well...........
jbh00jh said:
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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Actually I installed Amon_ra recovery a bit ago, and did a full NAND backup.
bokechukwu1 said:
So can we get perm root with this at least or no? Been waiting to flash some fonts on this thing thanks.
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Yes perm root is as easy as flashing a recovery then using the recovery to flash the su and busybox binary. Then install superuser from the market and bam permanent root. (or just wait till someone makes a flashable package that will do all that for you.)
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So I will hopefully be replacing my EVO 3D with a crooked screen with a new replacement either today or tomorrow. Should I root with the HTC method or wait for an unofficial root method?
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LostRib said:
So I will hopefully be replacing my EVO 3D with a crooked screen with a new replacement either today or tomorrow. Should I root with the HTC method or wait for an unofficial root method?
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Considering the HTC unlock method has been released since roughly August and we find ourselves now in January with essentially 5 months have passed without an unofficial root method .. I would probably lean towards not counting on an unofficial root method.
Haven't seen any new information from Unrevoked or AlphaRevX regarding work on the EVO 3D as I'm sure there are some devices in existence which don't have any unlock method that might garner more attention ...
Most of that is just opinion and speculation based on personal experience. Might not be worth anything but figured I'd post an answer in the hope it might help! Good luck!
I know the only way now is the HTC method im holding out alil longer till someone comes out with a better method. I don't really want HTC knowing im rooted with the way they have it set up. Nothing is wrong going there route with it other then you warranty with them being void to a certain point.
Sprint doesn't seem to mind.
In due time there will be a root in a better way .
reaper24 said:
I know the only way now is the HTC method im holding out alil longer till someone comes out with a better method. I don't really want HTC knowing im rooted with the way they have it set up. Nothing is wrong going there route with it other then you warranty with them being void to a certain point.
Sprint doesn't seem to mind.
In due time there will be a root in a better way .
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Although I've talked about replacing a phone through HTC warranty and they said it would take 2 weeks which is just ridiculous. Not sure the HTC warranty is even worth it
LostRib said:
Although I've talked about replacing a phone through HTC warranty and they said it would take 2 weeks which is just ridiculous. Not sure the HTC warranty is even worth it
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I know what you mean about that. Happy sprint isn't picky about rooted phones or the TEP.
reaper24 said:
I know what you mean about that. Happy sprint isn't picky about rooted phones or the TEP.
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That's good to know. I think TEP covers just about everything
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LostRib said:
That's good to know. I think TEP covers just about everything
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I dunno why HTC want's to control things maybe for ideas and to make money lol.
reaper24 said:
I dunno why HTC want's to control things maybe for ideas and to make money lol.
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Has anyone actually used HTC warranty over sprint insurance?
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LostRib said:
Has anyone actually used HTC warranty over sprint insurance?
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Im gonna go there root way I took a update on my unrooted evo 3d and the carrier IQ thing is back on my phone along with HTC logger.
reaper24 said:
Im gonna go there root way I took a update on my unrooted evo 3d and the carrier IQ thing is back on my phone along with HTC logger.
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Don't care about HTC knowing?
I just got a replacement evo and its 1.5 ..... I am going to root with their method because i would rather them know I'm rooted then my every move .....
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i got so sick of waiting for REAL ROOT i sold my shooter wit 1.50 hboot and baught a used 1.40 hboot.. now im back to being a happy camper!!!)
Even with having the 1.5 hboot, you are still able to flash roms and kernels without issues, just have to do it in a different way.
If your a person that enjoys the challenge (should be the quality of anyone who roots) you'll see past the issues and roll with the punches unrolled an easy way comes along.
Remember people, if your hear, you don't want it the easy way. You don't want to have everything done for you, find joy in getting your hands dirty and doing something challenging.
BTW, yes I have an EVO 3D WITH 1.5 HBOOT and everything is business as usual in the flashing department
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How easy was it to root?
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LostRib said:
How easy was it to root?
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took me 10 min after reading the instructions, and more because I don't use Windows (Linux only) so I had to load up my VM for some things. But the unlocking of the Bootstrap and the rooting process is quick.
Yes having S-Off is a huge difference, but just because I don't have it doesn't mean that my life with the phone ends there. I can still flash kernels, ROMs and anything 1.4 hboot could do, I just have to load recovery via fastboot and I'm all set.
Yes, maybe I can't use ROM manager to make my life easy, and maybe to flash I will always be (for now) tied to having to use a computer for better results, but in reality, what?? I have access to a computer most of the time, and if I don't, I wait because or I may be in the field doing training or something else and I don't want to invest my time in flashing at all.
Another way is that if you don't want to use the computer just remove the boot.img from the zip (I believe its that one) file of the ROM your wanting to flash and I believe this should let you flash right from Recovery and then you can access fastboot to flash the Kernel side.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422066
Definitely S-OFF though. I think you can use Revolutionary if you're on hboot 1.4. It's been so long since I've rooted...
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How about nadroid backup and restore functionality on hb 1.5 i mean i assume we would run into issues with this if we want to restore to a previous version of a rom with a non stock kernel.
Sometimes i go flash happy and end up with a boot loop situation but all is usually well because i just wipe and restore.
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dmcgrath009 said:
How about nadroid backup and restore functionality on hb 1.5 i mean i assume we would run into issues with this if we want to restore to a previous version of a rom with a non stock kernel.
Sometimes i go flash happy and end up with a boot loop situation but all is usually well because i just wipe and restore.
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I believe you would have to backup everything except the boot area. You would have to flash the kernel first before restoring the backup.
Note: I haven't tested this, but simple logic says it should work. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
Edit:
Please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21082065
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So, I'm new to rooting, and, as such, after looking around the forums, I haven't found a similar thread (for the EVO 3D) about what ROM I should get. I've been looking through the CDMA forum at different ROMS, but I'm not sure which one to use. I won't be downgrading to 1.4 HBOOT, since I don't have a linux PC or the balls to do it, so I will be using the HTC Unlocker. All I want is to have the ability to use the Hotspot/tethering for free, because I'm not about to pay Sprint an extra 30 dollars/mo on top of my 65 dollar/mo plan right now.
So, if anyone has any help, I'd really appreciate it, because I have no idea what I'm doing.
ViperRom for the win!!
Its fast, battery is great. And it has wifi hotspot!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192628
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iTzLOLtrain said:
ViperRom for the win!!
Its fast, battery is great. And it has wifi hotspot!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192628
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Yeah, I was looking at that. Do I need to download it before I actually use the HTC unlocker?
All I want is to have the ability to use the Hotspot/tethering for free,
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If that's all you want, you don't need to flash a new rom. Just root and install the Wireless Tether app.
Yeah, I was looking at that. Do I need to download it before I actually use the HTC unlocker?
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You can download a rom whenever you want. Just make sure you are rooted and have a recovery and the Flash Image GUI app installed before flashing
here, this guide will help you alot .
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-evo-3d-2-08-651-2-and-later-htc-unlock-method/
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sitlet said:
If that's all you want, you don't need to flash a new rom. Just root and install the Wireless Tether app.
You can download a rom whenever you want. Just make sure you are rooted and have a recovery and the Flash Image GUI app installed before flashing
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Can I download the Wireless Tether app from the App Store?
The app sucks. You should use the actually sprints hotspot app. Also I suggest not using image GUI but 4ext recovery
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I vote Infectedrom. Its fast even without overclocking it. But if you do want to overclock check out chadgoodman's anthrax.
My friend is saying there's more ways to root your phone other than the HTC Unlocker or the downgrade to 1.4 hboot. First off cause I don't have a linux PC, and my friend's friend said he used a program to root it on windows.
EDIT: After doing some research, I found this: http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-downgrade-hboot-1-50-to-1-40-on-htc-evo-3d-new/ and this: http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-htc-evo-3d/
I was wondering if these are reliable and they both work, mostly the Revolutionary app. Because I've heard that it's not all that amazing, but they must have updated it since I heard that.
Panface said:
My friend is saying there's more ways to root your phone other than the HTC Unlocker or the downgrade to 1.4 hboot. First off cause I don't have a linux PC, and my friend's friend said he used a program to root it on windows.
EDIT: After doing some research, I found this: http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-downgrade-hboot-1-50-to-1-40-on-htc-evo-3d-new/ and this: http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-htc-evo-3d/
I was wondering if these are reliable and they both work, mostly the Revolutionary app. Because I've heard that it's not all that amazing, but they must have updated it since I heard that.
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That's how I unlocked mine on boot 1.5 there's a video so its easier for people who don't know a lot and also don't have to install sdk but just a file which has all the files needed to root.
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But the HTC Unlock method doesn't allow for s-off, which I guess I don't need. I mean, all I really want is the hotspot enables. I heard that the HTC Unlock method takes quite a while to run as well.
Yes EVO hacks work I used it to root my EVO
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Can I download the Wireless Tether app from the App Store?
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Yes, or from the MANY links on xda to the google code page for that app.
My friend is saying there's more ways to root your phone other than the HTC Unlocker or the downgrade to 1.4 hboot.
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If you are on hboot 1.5, the htc dev unlock, then hboot downgrade is the ONLY method.
EDIT: After doing some research, I found this: http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-ha...tc-evo-3d-new/ and this: http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-ha...ot-htc-evo-3d/
I was wondering if these are reliable and they both work, mostly the Revolutionary app. Because I've heard that it's not all that amazing, but they must have updated it since I heard that.[/QUOTE
That second link is over a year old, and again, doesn't work for hboot 1.5. You have one and only one method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
But the HTC Unlock method doesn't allow for s-off, which I guess I don't need. I mean, all I really want is the hotspot enables. I heard that the HTC Unlock method takes quite a while to run as well.
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Again, the HTCDev method will give you root, but not s-off. If you want s-off, you have to downgrade your hboot. And it doesn't take a while, unless you consider a few minutes to be a while.
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K, well, after reading some stuff, I think it may be best to wait for ICS to come out and see what happens, because, apparently it should be coming out sometime soon, if I'm not mistaken.
Panface said:
K, well, after reading some stuff, I think it may be best to wait for ICS to come out and see what happens, because, apparently it should be coming out sometime soon, if I'm not mistaken.
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And if you take the OTA ICS update, it could update the hboot and you may never be able to root it. If you are going to root, do it now.
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And if you take the OTA ICS update, it could update the hboot and you may never be able to root it. If you are going to root, do it now.
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Yeah, but the thing is, I've been comparing HTC Unlock with downgrade and root, the only difference, besides true s-off, is you aren't able to have you own splash screen with HTC Unlock (Big whoop.) So, instead of taking the time (albeit a few minutes) To downgrade my phone and to root it that way. I think I'll wait for ICS to come out, then for the HTC Unlock to update for it, since I rather like the way ICS will look, also as I've said before, all I really want is the ability to use the Sprint Hotspot without paying an extra 30 bucks. That and with the HTC unlock, I can still put on a custom ROM, if I so desire, once they've been updated for ICS.
Ohhhh... Where should I start.... Well for one s-off means a lot, not just splash screens... Which I love my custom splash screen btw.... Makes my phone extremely unique...
If I was in your shoes.. I would downgrade the hboot... Root it.. and install the tethering app... And be done with it... Regardless of when the ota comes out for ics.. that means very very little...
Once the ota does come out, ROM devs will be all over it, and custom ics roms will be popping up all over the place...
"All I really want is tether...." No its not.... Trust me once you dive into the rooted EVO 3d and you realize how the phone is suppose to run, not how it runs stock you will be glad you went through the trouble with the downgrade...
Do what you do, as long as your happy and enjoying your 3vo that's what's matters...
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Ohhhh... Where should I start.... Well for one s-off means a lot, not just splash screens... Which I love my custom splash screen btw.... Makes my phone extremely unique...
If I was in your shoes.. I would downgrade the hboot... Root it.. and install the tethering app... And be done with it... Regardless of when the ota comes out for ics.. that means very very little...
Once the ota does come out, ROM devs will be all over it, and custom ics roms will be popping up all over the place...
"All I really want is tether...." No its not.... Trust me once you dive into the rooted EVO 3d and you realize how the phone is suppose to run, not how it runs stock you will be glad you went through the trouble with the downgrade...
Do what you do, as long as your happy and enjoying your 3vo that's what's matters...
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Well, my biggest problem with trying to downgrade is I'm having trouble finding a way to downgrade with just windows, since I don't have Linux. Unless I just didn't read it right, I think someone said that the link I posted about downgrading with windows is outdated?
EDIT: Why would I install a tethering app when, supposedly, I can use the Sprint Hotspot, which is supposed to be better than the tethering app? Also, I have quite a few apps on my phone and I'm not sure I'll be able to use them all still if I root my phone.
It's really not hard to get Linux. You can even partition your windows machine and run Linux alongside it. I prefer Linux. And why not? Android is Linux...
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It's really not hard to get Linux. You can even partition your windows machine and run Linux alongside it. I prefer Linux. And why not? Android is Linux...
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Well, for me, there's several issues with that. 1) I'm using a laptop that isn't mine for the time being, and i don't want to go and make a new partition. 2) If I were to wait till the parts for my new desktop to come in, I'd have to wait till the end of March anyways for a new processor to come out. 3) I've never even messed with Linux.
Does anyone know if the root tool weaksauce and firewater work on at&t m8 to get s-off ?
The root tool weaksauce shows it works on the verizon m8 version then your supposed to be able to get s-off with firewater.
Does anyone know ? I have the m8 at&t version and I would like to get s-off.
no it does not. they do not have the correct hboot files yet
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no it does not. they do not have the correct hboot files yet
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So the weaksauce wont work with the at&t m8, but firewater will still work if you unlock the bootloader with htc dev first right ?
You do know that S-Off really isn't important.. You can still flash roms and get access to root and do all the other crazy things
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You do know that S-Off really isn't important.. You can still flash roms and get access to root and do all the other crazy things
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It may not be to you but it is to a lot of the rest of us.
I like the freedom of not ever needing a computer which you never do with s-off.
Your not the first person to try to say that as it seems people like to say that when they dont understand what s-off means. If s-off was not really that big of deal then ask yourself why do the devs put in all the time and effort to crack it and get s-off if its as you claim not necessary ???? Why dont you ask the devs that question, maybe they can explain it to you so you can understand and comprehend it.
I have had s-off on every htc smartphone I have had since the first evo 4g and I have had a lot of them. s-on may be good enough for you and all you want, but not everyone is as content being s-on as you.
Uh this isn't the HTC One X days. You dont need a computer to flash roms or any other tweaks.
For as the devs.. I never said S-Off was useless I said it's not important as getting root and flashing roms which is probly the main priority to get access to first rather than S-Off.
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Firewater just got support...
https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs/status/452269087083614208
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Uh this isn't the HTC One X days. You dont need a computer to flash roms or any other tweaks.
For as the devs.. I never said S-Off was useless I said it's not important as getting root and flashing roms which is probly the main priority to get access to first rather than S-Off.
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Yeah if you always want to flash roms with stock kernels, most of us dont like the stock kernels so yes you would need a computer. Access was gained before the phones were even released, but if your content with s-on that is your prerogative to settle for that, as is ours to want s-off and not settle.
For the life of me I have no clue why people content with s-on always seem to question people that want s-off. This post has nothing to do with deciding is s-off is not needed by anyone, its to talk about gaining s-off.
If your happy with s-on then please go post on forums where others are happy being s-on...
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Firewater just got support...
https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs/status/452269087083614208
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Isnt that only on the verizon version m8 though ? Not sure everything I have found on searches just shows the verizon version m8. If it works on the at&t version m8 now that would be what I"am wanting. Also I was told weaksauce only works on the verizon version also. Which weaksauce is supposed to let you switch back to stock very easily I think as easy as uninstalling the app. Now that is just pure genius.
I wish there was a one click root app for at&t, I'd use the toolkit but I have a mac
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Isnt that only on the verizon version m8 though ? Not sure everything I have found on searches just shows the verizon version m8. If it works on the at&t version m8 now that would be what I"am wanting. Also I was told weaksauce only works on the verizon version also. Which weaksauce is supposed to let you switch back to stock very easily I think as easy as uninstalling the app. Now that is just pure genius.
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yest it works on all M8 variants.
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yest it works on all M8 variants.
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Great, I see the s-off post is now added to the at&t m8 general section, thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!
Just remember, if you arent to confident in messing with firmwares etc. dont mess with s-off.. It can really screw up your device. If you know what you are doing, and what it does, then go for it!
Confirmed, Firewater works for att.
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Weaksauce didn't work for me, gave me a root failure error. I don't want to HTC Dev Unlock.
Those of you that have s-offed did you htc dev unlock first?
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Weaksauce didn't work for me, gave me a root failure error. I don't want to HTC Dev Unlock.
Those of you that have s-offed did you htc dev unlock first?
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I used HTC Dev to unlock, used temporary boot image for recovery to nandroid + flash SuperUser, Then followed the protocol for firewater to gain S-OFF...running stock AT&T image now with root permissions. No 'Tampered' logo on my hboot
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I used HTC Dev to unlock, used temporary boot image for recovery to nandroid + flash SuperUser, Then followed the protocol for firewater to gain S-OFF...running stock AT&T image now with root permissions. No 'Tampered' logo on my hboot
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Yea...I don't want to use HTC Dev Unlock. Just curious if anyone else was able to get it working without htc dev unlock.
Thanks though.
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Yea...I don't want to use HTC Dev Unlock. Just curious if anyone else was able to get it working without htc dev unlock.
Thanks though.
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Do you just not want your device to be logged or something?
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Do you just not want your device to be logged or something?
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I got burned on the M7 with that and the camera issue. Even though the camera issue was a known F up on HTC's part, they tried to charge me 200 bucks to fix it because I was unlocked. Only way they knew I was unlocked was because of HTC Dev, because the device was sent to them completely stock. I ruu'd back to stock before sending it to them.
This is my work phone, so I don't pay for it, therefore I'd like to be able to hide the fact that I've knowingly "voided" the warranty.
PS. I complained enough and got up high enough the food chain that they offered to fix my phone, however by then my digitizer died and the M8 came out.
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I got burned on the M7 with that and the camera issue. Even though the camera issue was a known F up on HTC's part, they tried to charge me 200 bucks to fix it because I was unlocked. Only way they knew I was unlocked was because of HTC Dev, because the device was sent to them completely stock. I ruu'd back to stock before sending it to them.
This is my work phone, so I don't pay for it, therefore I'd like to be able to hide the fact that I've knowingly "voided" the warranty.
PS. I complained enough and got up high enough the food chain that they offered to fix my phone, however by then my digitizer died and the M8 came out.
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Ah thanks for the heads up! Guess I'm hosed if something goes wrong!