Can someone please make a video or a VERY DETAILED explanation of the instructions for S-OFF. I went on the guy's page and I don't think he explains the process very well. Like I don't see what's going on on his computer, or what do I click, and such.
jcjackjay said:
Can someone please make a video or a VERY DETAILED explanation of the instructions for S-OFF. I went on the guy's page and I don't think he explains the process very well. Like I don't see what's going on on his computer, or what do I click, and such.
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I think this S-Off method is rather new, I am having problems with it too. From what it looks like though, the hardest part should be the wire trick. I'll give it a week before we start seeing standardized answers and troubleshooting.
The problem with making a tutorial is that people aren't sure if they will get the wire trick right. and once they get it correctly they can't undo the wire trick just to make a tutorial. What specifically is it that you don't understand about getting s-off?
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I wanted to contribute something to the development but I'm a dumby when it comes to code. For a living I coordinate techs and developers with end users, basically I'm a tech-speak translator. I've notice that around these parts there are a ton of questions that could be easier resolved by following some guidelines. So this guide isn't about how to root or rom specifically, it's tips to avoid common mistakes and make it easier to provide you with help if something does go wrong. Think of it like when you call your cable help line and they ask you "is it plugged in" if you checked to make sure it was plugged in before you called you'll get to a solution a lot quicker.
I ask that any devs who can add to this do because knowing what us regular users can do to make your job (unpaid job that is) easier benefits us all.
Back up
This is super important but a lot of us are in such a rush to play with the goodies that we skip it. Always always keep a current back up of your sd card on your pc/mac. You can create a folder called "mytouchbak" or whatever you want and just copy and paste all the files over there.
Also nandroid backup. You should keep at least 2 nandroid backups. If you're just now rooting make a nandroid back up before you do anything. Then once you have a good stable rom running make another nandroid back up. This way you can either return to a default build, or to your working rom build.
These things are important because usually if you screw something up it's usually quicker and easier to just start from the beginning rather than have someone try to figure out what tiny step out of the many involved you may have done wrong, then figure out how to fix it.
Try twice
This relates to "back up." If something seems broken start from the beginning and try it again. Most likely you missed a step, forgot a symbol in something you typed, or sometimes something just didn't quite go right. By rooting you are doing things that weren't meant to be done and sometimes some numbers just got crossed somewhere. Before you proclaim that things are broken just try it again. You would be suprised by the number of times things work the second time through.
Read the whole thread
We have all done it. You follow the instructions perfectly and something doesn't work so you run to the forum and immediately write a post saying "help, i can't get it to work" on page 80 of a thread when several other people experienced the same problem, already asked the question and a solution was posted on page 20. I know it's sometimes a pain to skim 80 pages of posts but those 80 pages are probably caused by other people not reading the thread before posting. A good tip for this is if there is something specific that isn't working like wi-fi tether, just open the search toolbar in your browser, type "tether" and then go to each page hitting search. That way you don't have to read every post but if anyone has mentioned anything about tethering it will point you right to it and you only have to read those posts.
Have a computer ready
This is one that most of us already do but the one time you forget things always go bad. Don't ever rely on remembering the instructions you read on your phones browser when working on rooting and romming. If you have a computer in front of you you can read the forums and follow the instructions word for word which gives you a better chance of success.
Read everything first
Before you start read everything from start to finish at least once. Sometimes devs skip steps that they assume we know and then mention them later. It's because a lot of things seem like something everyone should know, but we don't. In the same vein if you can find multiple tutorials read them all first. This will give you several view points on doing the same thing and will in general make the whole process make more sense to you and clue you in on things one tutorial may have skipped past.
The other benefit is sometimes a step is listed, and then right after it it will say something like "and don't do that until you do this." such as with our current rooting loop method. If you read all the steps first before starting you won't be caught off guard by things like this.
Asking for help
When you get stuck, you can't find any answers AFTER READING AND SEARCHING THE FORUM for your issue then definitely ask away. How you ask relates to how easily it is for someone to help you.
Avoid making general statements when possible, detail is a must. Instead of saying "I rooted, then did A2SD, then restarted" give the steps you took to root and A2SD by either referencing the method such as "I rooted as per the steps laid out in (link to instructions or name of method) or lay out the exact steps line for line as to what you did. If you assume you rooted right and what went wrong was you missed a step in the rooting process how is anyone supposed to tell you what step you missed.
Also format it to be easy to read. Development trains your mind to be very organized and structured. Basically don't format your post like this guide I'm writing, in large blocks of paragraph text. Instead put each command on a new line for instance:
"I did this
adb shell
adb push update.zip /sd
reboot into recovery....."
this makes it a lot easier to provide you with help.
Slow down, Find a good time
Don't rush through the process. That's how steps are missed, commands are mistyped and phones get bricked. I've done roots at 2am and couldn't for the life of me get it to work, I put it away and tried again in the morning and things went great. So don't mess with rooting and romming when you're exhausted, in a hurry, high, in the midst of an argument with your girlfriend, or any sort of other distractions.
That's all I have for now, I hope it helps. If anyone has anything to add please do.
great guide, most of us probably follow these general rules without really thinking about it and sometimes that is overlooked when a new guy comes in to try to do something.
tubaking182 said:
great guide, most of us probably follow these general rules without really thinking about it and sometimes that is overlooked when a new guy comes in to try to do something.
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Thank you. I notice that happen a lot in my job where someone with no experience in the particular tech get's lost because the things we take for granted as common knowledge really aren't for someone new to the idea. Especially with the android devices becoming insanely popular theres a huge influx of new users looking at the goodies that come with root. install a custom rom or two and everything above becomes second nature.
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Slow down, Find a good time
Don't rush through the process. That's how steps are missed, commands are mistyped and phones get bricked. I've done roots at 2am and couldn't for the life of me get it to work, I put it away and tried again in the morning and things went great. So don't mess with rooting and romming when you're exhausted, in a hurry, high, in the midst of an argument with your girlfriend, or any sort of other distractions.
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So that's why I was having problems.
this tut is NOW IN SLIDE BIBLE! just send people there any chance you get with noobs, and we'll let them search
Aweome idea for a post! Thanks!
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Thanks for all the positive feedback guys. And especially thank you for getting this posted into the slide bible. I hope this cuts down on some of the repeat questions and makes it easier for some of the new folks to not be so overwhelmed when rooting for the first time.
@Bigshow281 : I have screwed up several rootings by being a little bit too foggy to be messing with something that requires precise typing and following instructions correctly.
Guys, I know you know your stuff and you can really help out a noob like me but............
is there ONE root or page that can have all the required links so I can get this
3D rooted. I've read a few topics and it seems that some Devs have different ways to root and I dont know what CMD is.
I'm coming from the Hero and I learned how to flash to get rooted.
Thanks.
WRONG SECTION HOMIE!!!
But, here you go. It's the sticky at the TOP of the page. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192525
knowledge561 said:
WRONG SECTION HOMIE!!!
But, here you go. It's the sticky at the TOP of the page. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192525
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Thanks but this way seems a little too complicated for me. Any simpler ways???
kinextions said:
Thanks but this way seems a little too complicated for me. Any simpler ways???
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Not really. Its not difficult at all. Just read and it will make sense. Its similar to the og evo root method. Hit the button, flash recovery, reboot.
I Haz 3D
Point is, Just do it. You will learn a lot from just doing while trying not to fathom the "big words" or "strange names" for different stuff. YES, something CAN happen, but usually follow the steps and all will be fine. When I first rooted my first phone I was not really linguistic in the lingo we use now for rooting such devices, it reminded me of the ole AOL WAREZ days and those silly but fun AUto programs we used in the chat rooms. I say... Take the plunge.
EDIT: Don't be lazy (like me) and NOT read it. There is no ONE click easy method if this is your first time. Once you have rooted this phone though your ext and future roots will eb easier and make more since.
om my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
give this a whirl. he does things step by step and makes it easy. or for me at least. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sw_mgVHWYo
I decided it was time for me to root my EVO. I looked at the thread that was created and there were a whole bunch of steps that quite frankly are not needed and are rather confusing.
I followed this video to a tee and was able to gain root on my EVO within 12 minutes. Simple and plain, it gets no easier than this.
You don't even lose your data. Phone reboots, you have S-OFF, Clockwork recovery and all the apps you had before you started.
I know this video is in another thread, but I want to put it where beginners can see it w/out having to jump 62 pages into the thread to find it. I hope this helps you guys as easily as it helped me.
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-htc-evo-3d/
thanks for the help but im sure a quick search would have found the other topic .
CheesyNutz said:
thanks for the help but im sure a quick search would have found the other topic .
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That's true, but I even started the process in other thread and said to myself "there has to be another way". I then jumped 60 pages and finally came across this link.
I feel it's good to have a thread where a beginner can start w/out having to start somewhere else, fail and then find this link.
Thanks for posting this. It was extremely easy to follow with visual cue. Thanks again.
Can anyone walk me step-by-step thru S-Off procedure. Need to get back to stock and that pesky "tampered" sign is not a good look lol. Really appreciate the help
Droid12User said:
Can anyone walk me step-by-step thru S-Off procedure. Need to get back to stock and that pesky "tampered" sign is not a good look lol. Really appreciate the help
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There is a TON of information out there that can guide you through s-off. The search button is your friend. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612035 is a good place to start. The .5 version of juopunutbear should work as long as you are on ICS (not the global update). The best thing for you to do is take a look at the material then start asking specific questions as you get stuck or confused. Apophis has a thread (either in general or Q&A) where he lists his (along with other senior members) g-talk account. So, if you're having major problems along the way, find that forum, hit up apophis (or somebody else), and hopefully they can guide you.
Oh, and one more thing: it is a very easy process. Don't get overwhelmed. When it's over you will be surprised by how easy it was. Just take it easy, don't take shortcuts, and make sure you can do it by memory before even attempting. Good luck! It will be worth your time!
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There is a TON of information out there that can guide you through s-off. The search button is your friend. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612035 is a good place to start. The .5 version of juopunutbear should work as long as you are on ICS (not the global update). The best thing for you to do is take a look at the material then start asking specific questions as you get stuck or confused. Apophis has a thread (either in general or Q&A) where he lists his (along with other senior members) g-talk account. So, if you're having major problems along the way, find that forum, hit up apophis (or somebody else), and hopefully they can guide you.
Oh, and one more thing: it is a very easy process. Don't get overwhelmed. When it's over you will be surprised by how easy it was. Just take it easy, don't take shortcuts, and make sure you can do it by memory before even attempting. Good luck! It will be worth your time!
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Thanks...kept getting stuck at the wire trick part but someone helped me thru it
Sooo, Ill start off by saying that I've unlocked, hacked, rooted, jailbroke pretty much every phone since it became available over the years. Im a careless tinkerer and have always stumbled across well written how to's to do everything I've need in forums like this and have great luck.
Well awhile ago, shortly after I got my AT&T M8, I decided to try and turn it into Google Play Edition. Somewhere along the way while in the process of doing S-OFF, something went wrong. I kept getting errors and couldn't get anything to flash. So I gave up and got the LG G3 and put the M8 aside for a bit. Well now I want to use it again, and along the way of "tinkering", I've managed to wipe TWRP, relocked the bootloader, have no OS and still S-OFF. I can boot into recovery or boot to the HTC screen so its not completely gone yet from what Ive researched.
Would anyone be willing to help me out in getting this thing back to stock Sense or point me in the right direction? I want it completely stock, without root or custom recovery. I'd rather a good step by step, if someone would be willing. I can't seem to piece together all of the information i need to do this myself. Thanks!
Have you tried this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55094112
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Im a careless tinkerer and have always stumbled across well written how to's to do everything I've need in forums like this and have great luck.
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Just RUU as suggested in the previous response.
I suggest leaving your phones stock, unless you are willing to put in the time to read, research, and obtain some real knowledge.
Step-by-step guides and toolkits are dangerous things. As you see, they just get you into trouble without giving you the knowledge or tools to get out of that jam.
I'm surprised you've modded as many phones as you say, and haven't gotten any real knowledge to this point. Either you are very humble; or your story is a testament to the fact that such step-by-step guides shouldn't be posted in the first place.
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Just RUU as suggested in the previous response.
I suggest leaving your phones stock, unless you are willing to put in the time to read, research, and obtain some real knowledge.
Step-by-step guides and toolkits are dangerous things. As you see, they just get you into trouble without giving you the knowledge or tools to get out of that jam.
I'm surprised you've modded as many phones as you say, and haven't gotten any real knowledge to this point. Either you are very humble; or your story is a testament to the fact that such step-by-step guides shouldn't be posted in the first place.
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Thank you for your response but unfortunately I find it extremely arrogant and asinine. The fact is that I have put in a lot of time and knowledge to understand what I am doing. I may not have a conventional degree in coding as you might but I am able to successfully mod my phones by browsing forums like this where you can find an abundance of knowledge, especially step-by-step guides, as you are so against. If you are so against step by step guides then maybe you can be the voice about banning them from this forum. Do you see how I am a new member? I am one of the few that actually search the forums instead of posting another thread asking the same questions. Ive used tools and information from this site for a very long time without having to post one single thing until a few days ago. And this is the response I get? I was even humble enough in my screen name to call myself stupid because, with this specific issue, I knew it had to be something stupid that i was missing. You shouldn't tell people that step by step guides are dangerous things. All it takes is some balls and some command lines and you can accomplish many things. Have I messed up my phones and others before? Yes, but i had never run into a situation I haven't been able to get myself out of. To me, tinkering around, as a hobby, is fun. Like now, as I watch Sunday NFL Countdown, I am about to dust off my Nexus 5 and flash Lollipop on it. Guess what I am going to use? A STEP BY STEP GUIDE!!!! If I mess it up, then Im sure I wouldn't be the first to do so and Im sure Ill find a solution on great forums like this. Besides, my rooted/unlocked OnePlus One is my main phone. I wanted to play around with the M8 again to see if I would miss the smaller screen but I don't. So, thank you for just repeating the first response then proceeding to insult me because you think i don't have the skills needed to mod my devices. I will continue to do so however I please, just as many others will. Either contribute to threads or ignore them. No need for the insults. You've also insulted many other members who have posted tools and step by step guides on this specific site.
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Have you tried this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55094112
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I actually did RUU but it ended up that I had a corrupt RUU file. I redownloaded it and put it on the MicroSD card and it worked like a charm. Thank you for your quick response.
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Thank you for your response but unfortunately I find it extremely arrogant and asinine.
So, thank you for just repeating the first response then proceeding to insult me
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Quite frankly, incorrect on both points. You don't understand what an insult is, and there is nothing insulting in my post. If you read my post carefully, you will see there is no actual personal attack or insults.
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Just RUU as suggested in the previous response.
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Contrary to what you suggest, backing up the previous suggestion is added value; as it adds credibility and consensus to the previous solution.
redpoint73 said:
I suggest leaving your phones stock, unless you are willing to put in the time to read, research, and obtain some real knowledge.
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Its just a suggestion, and note that its conditional. Therefore, if you meet the latter part of the statement, the first part doesn't apply to you.
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Step-by-step guides and toolkits are dangerous things. As you see, they just get you into trouble without giving you the knowledge or tools to get out of that jam.
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I stand by this statement. I've seen dozens dozens of instances where such tools just arm people with enough "knowledge" to get them into trouble, and don't equip them with any tools to get them out. Its then left to folks like me to even start to get these folks on the right track.
I'll step back a bit from my statement that these tools "shouldn't be posted in the first place". I'll agree that step-by-step guides and toolkits might be useful if combined with the proper research, learning and understanding. But in and of themselves, they can easily lead newcomers astray.
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I'm surprised you've modded as many phones as you say, and haven't gotten any real knowledge to this point. Either you are very humble; or your story is a testament to the fact that such step-by-step guides shouldn't be posted in the first place.
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I already gave you the benefit of the doubt here, but you chose to react defensively and in my opinion, unreasonably.
In any case, as far as your knowledge and background, we can only go by what you've stated; and you clearly stated yourself as a "careless tinkerer" and "stumbled" upon solutions. Now in your later post you say "I have put in a lot of time and knowledge to understand what I am doing". So if you provide conflicting information as to your background, nobody can be blamed for making an incorrect assumption regarding your knowledge.