[Q] Deleting and uninstalling the same ? - Galaxy Ace S5830 General

Have seen in certain rom threads,
The developers have asked to place the apps they have given in the system/apps directory and give permissions
but I have a doubt.. what if we delete certain apps from the directory ?
is it same as uninstalling ? except that certain temporary or cache files reside in sd card... apart from that..
is deleting the apps same as uninstalling ??? forget about the data of apps..

charlessxavier said:
Have seen in certain rom threads,
The developers have asked to place the apps they have given in the system/apps directory and give permissions
but I have a doubt.. what if we delete certain apps from the directory ?
is it same as uninstalling ? except that certain temporary or cache files reside in sd card... apart from that..
is deleting the apps same as uninstalling ??? forget about the data of apps..
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Yes. But don't delete the app that you don't know what it is. And also don't delete Gmail.
Correct me if I'm wrong
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Thanks for replying. I know which to delete and which not to. Just my question was about uninstalling and deletion..
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[Q] Newbie to Android on Samsung Ace, help required.

Hello!
I am a newbie to Android just migrated from a Symbian. I own a Samsung Ace, and also plan buying an Xperia Play.
When installing an application in symbian the phone asks if we want to save it in the memory card or the internal memory. How do we do this in Android phones and specifically (if it is different for every phone) in Ace and Play?
For example I installed talking tom cat 2 in Ace, the moment I opened it asked my permission to install another package, only once that was installed I was able to use the application. Then after sometime I uninstalled the app. using task manager. But the question is how do I get rid of the extra package and where has it been installed any ways.
There is no place where this information is available for a newbie.
Android at first seems a little confusing.
Also what is this ROM thing, tried to search it but didn't find anything?
Please reply soon.
Thanks.
Everything, go to settings>applications>manage applications. This should be uniform across android devices.
Normally downloaded data goes to sdcard/Android/data. Check in dis directory.
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domnic79 said:
Normally downloaded data goes to sdcard/Android/data. Check in dis directory.
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He meant installed data.
consegregate said:
He meant installed data.
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Like mentioned in the prev post it might either be in /sdcard/android/data or in the appropriate folder names under /sdcard
In your case, i think a folder named "talking tom" might be created under /sdcard
Your mishandled/broken files would be in /sdcard/LOST.DIR
jeikumar said:
Like mentioned in the prev post it might either be in /sdcard/android/data or in the appropriate folder names under /sdcard
In your case, i think a folder named "talking tom" might be created under /sdcard
Your mishandled/broken files would be in /sdcard/LOST.DIR
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installed data goes to your system/data, what the hell are you talking about?! You mean if I take out my sd all apps mysteriously disappear?
consegregate said:
installed data goes to your system/data, what the hell are you talking about?! You mean if I take out my sd all apps mysteriously disappear?
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If the app is installed in SD card then for sure it wont work when u remove the SD card.
When you uninstall an app the folders and files particular to that app in /system/data would get removed automatically and the files n folders on those in SD card needs to be removed manually.
Correct me if im wrong, Thanks.
PS: Im not in for any argument and happy to correct myself
jeikumar said:
If the app is installed in SD card then for sure it wont work when u remove the SD card.
When you uninstall an app the folders and files particular to that app in /system/data would get removed automatically and the files n folders on those in SD card needs to be removed manually.
Correct me if im wrong, Thanks.
PS: Im not in for any argument and happy to correct myself
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ur actually correct. any leftover on sdcard wont be remove by default when uninstalling particular app that created them. eg many games will download its data when running it for the first time, and that data will be placed on sdcard. furthermore that data wouldnt be deleted when we uninstall that particular game that creating it, it need to be removed/deleted manually. i think same goes in op case, that "talking tom" app download its data when on first run and put it in sdcard.
Okay, I see the logic now. OP mentioned installing an additional package and that's probably not an app but just data, am I correct? Sorry for getting too heated up
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He meant installed data.
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You mean normally the applications we install like facebook, twitter, talking tom cat 2, angry birds etc. etc. go directly to the SD-Card ?????
I thought, in Androids, it goes to the internal memory.
Because a friend of mine said that the only reason people still opt for iphones instead of android is this; that you can't enjoy the use of an SD-Card.
an0nym0us_ said:
ur actually correct. any leftover on sdcard wont be remove by default when uninstalling particular app that created them. eg many games will download its data when running it for the first time, and that data will be placed on sdcard. furthermore that data wouldnt be deleted when we uninstall that particular game that creating it, it need to be removed/deleted manually. i think same goes in op case, that "talking tom" app download its data when on first run and put it in sdcard.
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Okay.
But my question is : Can I somehow install the application (like tom cat) directly in the Sd-Card in the first place. I am not worried about removing my card, because I have a 32 gb one.
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Hello!
Thanks for the reply.
But I don't think this is the ROM they are talking about on this website. The one you mentioned is Hardware. What they are discussing seems to be some type of software.
It's called read-only memory. It's like your xp in your computer, or windows 7, or Linux.
Edit: some applications cannot be installed into the sd card but with darktremor a2sd script it can make most apps migrate a portion of its space to the ext partition of the sd card. Do a search on google about a2sd. Also, installed data normally goes to /data/app which is internal storage. Certain apps may move their data to the .asec folder in the sd.

MicroSD Cleanup App

When browsing my SD Card in Root Explorer I have a load of directories, some of which are quite obscurely named. I don't know if I need them or if they belong to old apps that I have deleted or contain partially out of date data.
Is there an app that will check the list of currently installed apps and their dependant directories and delete my leftover rubbish?
Lol... Dont delelete anything with root explorer -its for qdvanced usage/users.
Download a normal filemanager for non root. Safe to delete stuff
Nezbert said:
When browsing my SD Card in Root Explorer I have a load of directories, some of which are quite obscurely named. I don't know if I need them or if they belong to old apps that I have deleted or contain partially out of date data.
Is there an app that will check the list of currently installed apps and their dependant directories and delete my leftover rubbish?
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If i was in your place I'd leave it as it is,
you might need to install FW again because of few megabytes
How about SD Maid? Very good app for some cleanup, but needs root. Also try SCleaner!

[Q] Cannot delete apk files?

Hi guys.
First off, Moderators, please do not move this question to the general questions and answers forum. This is specifically for Galaxy Ace users.
I'm usng E.S. File Explorer. Please confirm the following:
1. Stock apk files are located in /system/app.
2. apk files of apps that are downloaded from 'Market' and installed in INTERAL storage are located in /data/app.
3. apk files of apps that are downloaded from 'Market' and installed in SD CARD are
located in /mnt/asec.
If all three are correct, my question is:
What's all this talk from other users that apk files stored in my phone can be deleted to free up the internal storage?
I know I can't and should not delete the stock apk files (i'm not using custom ROM).
As for the ones in /mnt/asec, they cannot be deleted.
The ones in /data/app, I can delete but that would render the apps unusable.
What am I missing? I thought apk files from the 'market' can be deleted?
U r right with the location of the files...well you can delte some files in system/app to free up your system space and then use an app like titatium.backup to convert a user app into dystem app(note only some apps can be converted to work properly ..others will force close) ..thereby u can use ur rom.space too(i do it personally)....then u can also move ur dalvik cache into the sd card and GREATLY increase your internal memory..ull get tired installing apps but yhe space will never will up.. ..to do this u must root yr phone ..partition ur sd card and install link2sd ..its an awesome app
Dont forget to hit the thanks button if i helped ;-) ;-)
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U r right with the location of the files...well you can delte some files in system/app to free up your system space and then use an app like titatium.backup to convert a user app into dystem app(note only some apps can be converted to work properly ..others will force close) ..thereby u can use ur rom.space too(i do it personally)....then u can also move ur dalvik cache into the sd card and GREATLY increase your internal memory..ull get tired installing apps but yhe space will never will up.. ..to do this u must root yr phone ..partition ur sd card and install link2sd ..its an awesome app
Dont forget to hit the thanks button if i helped ;-) ;-)
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I deleted download manager2.3.4.apk and downloads 2.3.4.apk and now the problem is that Play store(market) is force closing every time I open it.I have titanium backup of those two apps but when I try to restore,phone reboots.
Edit: Done!
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[Q] How to move Apps to system/app in miniCM9!?!?

Hey Guys,
i delete a lot of system apps like email, wallpaper etc. so i got about 40mb free space on system/app.so now i just want to move some apps from data/app to system/app like for example facebook,twitter or others.
how can i do that!? i try that with root explorer but when i try to start the app they always crash!
help and tipps are much appreciated! thx
Try create a archive for flash via CWM with your apps, which you want move to system/app.
neXt___ said:
Try create a archive for flash via CWM with your apps, which you want move to system/app.
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I donĀ“t understand what u mean! But anyway i find a solution for me with the Link2SD App from Play Store.I got a 1GB Partition on SD and with this amazing app i can change them directly to my SD Partition or into system/app .... YEAHHHH! So easy damn but thanks anyway neXt
umm titanium can do that as well or the native a2sd by the rom?

[q] convert user app to system app

Hi everyone.
I'd like to know how to move some user apps stored in /data/app to /system/app, and don't get force close. I tried with link2sd, romtoolbox, rootexplorer, but always got fc.
I've deleted a lot of system apps and I want to use that unused storage for some user apps.
I hope you understand what I want to do.
Anybody can help me? :good:
mortadelax said:
Hi everyone.
I'd like to know how to move some user apps stored in /data/app to /system/app, and don't get force close. I tried with link2sd, romtoolbox, rootexplorer, but always got fc.
I've deleted a lot of system apps and I want to use that unused storage for some user apps.
I hope you understand what I want to do.
Anybody can help me? :good:
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Well... The best way to do that is to edit the ZIP for the ROM you want and flash the changed ZIP through CWM. If you're doing it on the phone, make sure you set the permissions to 644, after you move them.
SmG67 said:
Well... The best way to do that is to edit the ZIP for the ROM you want and flash the changed ZIP through CWM. If you're doing it on the phone, make sure you set the permissions to 644, after you move them.
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I checked permissions under rootexplorer. I gave the same permissions as every system app has. Should I go to terminal and type chmod 644 ...?
I'll try with the modified zip. Thanks for help. I'll tell you what happens.
EDIT: I tried the 644 method. Sitill force closing.
EDIT2: With Zip modified method works with some apps. I'm still looking for a phone method with rootexplorer.

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