THIS IS A BOUNTY THREAD.
WHICH HAS BEEN CLOSED DUE TO FLAMING/TROLLING/ SARCASM/ ETC. AND POSSIBILITY OF ATTRACTING FLAMERS (those who flame) TROLLERS, AND OTHERS. (not you, dagr8)
this is not pointed at anyone.
Do you still feel the need for an aosp bounty? Make a thread, and let the trolling begin.
To whomever delivers a fully working aosp build first will receive $20 from me. I know it is not nearly enough but I still want to repay the developer for his/her work.
Reserved
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What's the difference from this and Dagr8 new update. Change density goes to phone or tablet depending on what u set u r density.
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When you say fully functional does that mean spen too? That may add considerable effort. I personally would be OK if everything worked except spen. Of course working spen would be a nice bonus.
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borijess said:
What's the difference from this and Dagr8 new update. Change density goes to phone or tablet depending on what u set u r density.
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His mod is touchwiz, this is for AOSP.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I gathered from DAGr8's response to me in the other bounty that AOSP brings Tablet/Phone hybrid functionality. So this is really a bounty for a pure AOSP ROM and nothing specific about Tablet/Phone since that's inherent to AOSP. No?
Also, I thought a lot of the S-Pen functionality was tied to TW, so unless we specify something for S-Pen, that's not a requirement for this bounty.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I gathered from DAGr8's response to me in the other bounty that AOSP brings Tablet/Phone hybrid functionality. So this is really a bounty for a pure AOSP ROM and nothing specific about Tablet/Phone since that's inherent to AOSP. No?
Also, I thought a lot of the S-Pen functionality was tied to TW, so unless we specify something for S-Pen, that's not a requirement for this bounty.
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True on both accounts. What may happen is someone can pledge for aosp a certain amount then a higher amount from aosp + spen.
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My pledge is $100
1. Fully functional (phone, gps, s pen etc...)
2. Must be 100% compatible with i717M (Canada Bell)
3. Pure Android NO TW or any other
4. Must have NFC
5. Zero bloatware
6. Perma-Rooted
EDIT: Fully functional means everything (i.e. no FCs), for ICS, all s-pen apps must work
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When you say fully functional does that mean spen too? That may add considerable effort. I personally would be OK if everything worked except spen. Of course working spen would be a nice bonus.
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His mod is touchwiz, this is for AOSP.
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The spen would work, however The button would not. I think that The wacom digitizer works without tw on vanilla roms but the button and therefore gestures requiring the button would become useless.
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My pledge is $100
1. Fully functional (phone, gps, s pen etc...)
2. Must be 100% compatible with i717M (Canada Bell)
3. Pure Android NO TW or any other
4. Must have NFC
5. Zero bloatware
6. Perma-Rooted
EDIT: Fully functional means everything (i.e. no FCs), for ICS, all s-pen apps must work
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Just so you know SPen support with Aosp is extremely unlikely. Glad to see the high bouty though.
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coming from a pure aosp device, just wondering what you guys are hoping to get out of this?
we already have aosp launcher and aosp apps working or being worked on
you certaintly wont get spen support and if you did it would be a while after launch of pure aosp indefinitely. So I just fail to see how any devs would be motivated by this..
I guess it's good to dream put me in for 100$ but only if it comes with spen support at launch, k?
Does anyone want to go in with me on a bounty for jelly bean???
I pledge 2 boxes of cookies your choice. I find cookies are more of a motivator than monies.
*edit* Will not ship to Canada.
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sam.jh said:
coming from a pure aosp device, just wondering what you guys are hoping to get out of this?
we already have aosp launcher and aosp apps working or being worked on
you certaintly wont get spen support and if you did it would be a while after launch of pure aosp indefinitely. So I just fail to see how any devs would be motivated by this..
I guess it's good to dream put me in for 100$ but only if it comes with spen support at launch, k?
Does anyone want to go in with me on a bounty for jelly bean???
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Thanks. That's very generous.
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I pledge 2 boxes of cookies your choice. I find cookies are more of a motivator than monies.
*edit* Will not ship to Canada.
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Care to specify an amount per box? Now it is a bit misleading...
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sam.jh said:
coming from a pure aosp device, just wondering what you guys are hoping to get out of this?
we already have aosp launcher and aosp apps working or being worked on
you certaintly wont get spen support and if you did it would be a while after launch of pure aosp indefinitely. So I just fail to see how any devs would be motivated by this..
I guess it's good to dream put me in for 100$ but only if it comes with spen support at launch, k?
Does anyone want to go in with me on a bounty for jelly bean???
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AOSP is faster and lighter than Touchwiz. Tablet mode is built-in and less of a hack.
In for $20
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I don't mean to convert my previous post from partial ass to complete ass now that it was taken seriously; however, after seeing an extra 100$ added to the bounty it seems my intention at sarcasm wasn't understandable by the OP. I have no intentions of paying 100$ for aosp with spen support at launch, nor' do I have any intention of starting a bounty for Jelly Bean. Not because I don't want them, just because I don't think it is possible. To follow up on what I was trying to say in my last post -- now that we have almost all of the aosp apps available to us, aosp launchers and tablet mode, I see no advantage to what an aosp base could bring us. Perhaps delusions of higher benchmark scores? Anyways sign me off please, I am not a supporter.
I take a long view on my commitment on my pledge.
If Samsung comes out with their ICS, I get what I want for free... But we lose the skill set if someone developed it here and we will need someone to learn it when Jelly Bean comes out. I love Samsung hardware but hate their lack of commitment to their Android releases.
Edit: spelling error... Also hate auto correct
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sam.jh said:
I don't mean to convert my previous post from partial ass to complete ass now that it was taken seriously; however, after seeing an extra 100$ added to the bounty it seems my intention at sarcasm wasn't understandable by the OP. I have no intentions of paying 100$ for aosp with spen support at launch, nor' do I have any intention of starting a bounty for Jelly Bean. Not because I don't want them, just because I don't think it is possible. To follow up on what I was trying to say in my last post -- now that we have almost all of the aosp apps available to us, aosp launchers and tablet mode, I see no advantage to what an aosp base could bring us. Perhaps delusions of higher benchmark scores? Anyways sign me off please, I am not a supporter.
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Sarcasm doesn't work well on forums... especially when money is involved...
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JohnnyQ1964 said:
I take a long view on my commitment on my pledge.
If Samsung comes out with their ICS, I get what I want for free... But we lose the skill set if someone developed it here and we will need someone to learn it when Jelly Bean comes out. I love Samsung hardware but hate their lack of commitment to their Android releases.
Edit: spelling error... Also hate auto correct
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So... are you in or out?
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I'm still in.
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Having just come from the inspire 4g, I've had the luxury of having asopx, which if you search their forum you'll see its as close to Google source as possible with all the cm crap gutted, I've been hoping to see one pop up over here but didn't know if perhaps there just wasn't any demand here in Samsung land. Anyway the phone is awesome, just dislike touchwiz, and want the bare bones stock look and feel of ics, to which I can then customize from there. Seems like all the roms thus far have traces of touchwiz and or tons of cm tweaks and apex lanuchers and all that nonsense that we should have the ability to add from a bare bones build, kinda like a foundation to then just customize from there.
Please show some love if you want this as well, would gladly donate for some dev to get on it :beer::beer:
CM9 and AOKP are the closest things you will get to a pure AOSP OS.
If you wanted guaranteed pure AOSP, you should've bought a Nexus device.
BTW, that "CM crap" as you put it, vastly improves the ability of the OS. As does (and this is my opinion only) Touchwiz4.
Why don't you build your own op if you're not happy with what's offered.
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Why don't you build your own op if you're not happy with what's offered.
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Instead of criticizing why not try helping? There actually is a pure AOSP based ROM that we recently got support for named Codename Android. I'm not sure if it 100% running on our phone yet but they are working to do so.
Link to discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570962
Link to homepage: http://codenameandroid.org/
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Link to discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570962
Link to homepage: http://codenameandroid.org/
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Codename Android on my Nexus S [link] is really nice. It was one of my favorites. If we could see that (at some point) on our phones, that would be awesome.
I built and ran AOSP ICS 4.0.3 for my Nexus S and I have to say that while I did it just to see it work, I didn't run it long as I missed the features that CM and other open-source projects such as Codename Android have to offer. But, to each their own.
Just my $.02.
AOKP is about as close as you're going to get. Try it, you wont regret it.
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AOKP is about as close as you're going to get. Try it, you wont regret it.
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Agreed......by far the best ICS Rom
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Agreed......by far the best ICS Rom
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Sorry if this post came off as if I was some form of elitiest, I was merely suggesting that if we had a nice bare bones build people can thank tweak as they saw fit, I do not claim to be an Android developer and if I could I would love to build what I'm requesting, unfortunately I do not posses those skills ,hence attempting to lure in unsuspecting developers with donations as I do respect and understand the amount of developers that do this in their spare time while maintaining real life jobs. Secondly, my past experience with cm has been poor with the inspire, perhaps it was just not as highly regarded in the inspire space as it is elsewhere. Cm just didn't play that well with that device, perhaps I was too quick to judge having moved devices.
For those on akop, is it the stock launcher, email, and messaging apps? They don't have any screen shots? I'd like to get away from touchwiz
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AOKP is an aosp build, you will not see anything tw related in the rom
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Sorry if this post came off as if I was some form of elitiest, I was merely suggesting that if we had a nice bare bones build people can thank tweak as they saw fit, I do not claim to be an Android developer and if I could I would love to build what I'm requesting, unfortunately I do not posses those skills ,hence attempting to lure in unsuspecting developers with donations as I do respect and understand the amount of developers that do this in their spare time while maintaining real life jobs. Secondly, my past experience with cm has been poor with the inspire, perhaps it was just not as highly regarded in the inspire space as it is elsewhere. Cm just didn't play that well with that device, perhaps I was too quick to judge having moved devices.
For those on akop, is it the stock launcher, email, and messaging apps? They don't have any screen shots? I'd like to get away from touchwiz
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That's all right man.
AOKP uses the Vanilla ICS launcher, not touchwiz.
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BTW, that "CM crap" as you put it, vastly improves the ability of the OS. As does (and this is my opinion only) Touchwiz4.
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I share this opinion. I can honestly say if I had to choose between my GS II and the Galaxy Nexus with a locked boot loader, and not rootable, I would take the GS II every time. I would not choose to run Stock ICS over CM9, AOKP, or like stated above, TouchWiz (on ICS).
As others said give AOKP a try. Its definitely daily driver stable and complete. It looks like stock ICS but adds so many features. Things like the power toggles in the notification shade, adding apps to the lock screen as shortcuts, the list is huge. I can't make a firm decision between SHOstock2 and AOKP. I spend a week on one, then swap, repeat. I think people give TW a hard time. Its not sense, its not in your face and leeching into every part of the phone. Its really subtle once you put on a different launcher, even the official att builds. When I run AOKP I miss the TW music player (with controls in the lock screen and notification shade), the video player, and the camera more than anything else. When I run TW builds I miss the people/phone app and calendar. Those are the differences to me between TW and AOSP, a vast majority of the ICS experience is the same in the two.
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datrumole said:
Sorry if this post came off as if I was some form of elitiest, I was merely suggesting that if we had a nice bare bones build people can thank tweak as they saw fit, I do not claim to be an Android developer and if I could I would love to build what I'm requesting, unfortunately I do not posses those skills ,hence attempting to lure in unsuspecting developers with donations as I do respect and understand the amount of developers that do this in their spare time while maintaining real life jobs. Secondly, my past experience with cm has been poor with the inspire, perhaps it was just not as highly regarded in the inspire space as it is elsewhere. Cm just didn't play that well with that device, perhaps I was too quick to judge having moved devices.
For those on akop, is it the stock launcher, email, and messaging apps? They don't have any screen shots? I'd like to get away from touchwiz
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Everyone in here is telling you to go with AOKP. Its as "bare bones" as you can get with stock ICS. There is in TouchWiz whatsoever in AOKP. All the drivers are in there to make all the functions of your phone work. Go try it. Now.
I wish we had a pure AOSP rom also. I really dislike AOKP.
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Go try it. Now.
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I really dislike AOKP.
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why?
yup. try out aokp.
insaneturbo13 said:
why?
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I don't know really. I just didn't like it. I may give it another go tonight
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I don't know really. I just didn't like it. I may give it another go tonight
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You can always try MysticPride.
trell959 said:
I wish we had a pure AOSP rom also. I really dislike AOKP.
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If you really dislike aokp then you would really dislike aosp
Sorry for the lame post, ie can you guys answer my personal question, but i am seriously considering getting the Note 2 when it comes out here in Canada. Thought i would ask you original Note users about custom ROM usability as it is a concern to me.
I am a galaxy nexus user and was hoping to get the next nexus, but since it is being made by LG i have my reservations. I also find myself considering a tablet, but then have to ask myself what i would do on a tablet that i don't already do on my phone, except of course on a larger scale. Which brings me into Phablet territory.
Coming from the nexus, and being the type of Android user who likes the vanilla OS, my concerns revolve around customization. Given that the S Pen functionality is so deeply implemented into the OS does this result in a lesser experience if a custom ROM is flashed? Say you choose to flash one of the new CM10 nightlies. Is it CM10 just like it is on all other phones/tablets, or does it retain the "stuff" that makes the Note what it is....unique?
Any feedback is appreciated, flaming not so much
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I just got my note 2 weeks ago. I came from the incredible 2. I had cm 7, 9, and 10 on it. One of the first roms i flashed on my gnote was cm. To me i didn't notice alot of difference. I didn't keep it on long because i wanted the use of the pen. I did find a nice Rom with good features in a stock Rom (black star). Samsung is supposed to release jb for the gnote.so once that happens there will be more options. After that gnote 3 will be out and key lime pie
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I was really wondering the same thing, I'm considering the note 2 but will hold off if the s pen functions can't be applied to custom roms. From reading around the forums it looks like the functions probably won't be able to be transferred to aosp roms. I think they're making progress on the note 1, but not all aosp roms have functionality and they still don't have full functionality. It looks like touchwiz roms are fine though, but then again I'm not a note user.
I suppose it would be a lot of extra work for the developer(s) who work on the ROM to integrate such functionality into a ROM for just one device. I'll have to wait and see it when it comes out. Since the Note 2 well be running JB out of the box, a simple root and removal of bloatwear might be all that is needed. I've def become a fan of Samsungs products since the nexus s though. I also have to admit that the look and overall specs of the LG Nexus 4 are pretty underwhelming. I might have to do something crazy, like wait for something else to come along :-S HTCs new 5" phone with 1080p screen might be the sweet spot for me as long as it has good development support. Can't beat HTCs build quality. My hopes for the Note 2 remain high though as i haven't read a negative review yet.
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Yeah same here, for me its between the note 2 and the htc 1080p phone. There are some aosp roms with s pen support on the note 1 and it looks like the note 2 will become very popular so there's a good chance cm10 and other roms may have s pen support. The only thing that's keeping me from the note 2 is that samsung isn't releasing as much driver and chip info so developers may not want to or be able to do as much. In the video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTRKL5E9Iak and in a few other threads, its said that cyanogenmod won't officially support the note 2 because of that.
I think the problem is that Samsung has not released the source to the pen but i am not 100% sure.
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Yeah same here, for me its between the note 2 and the htc 1080p phone. There are some aosp roms with s pen support on the note 1 and it looks like the note 2 will become very popular so there's a good chance cm10 and other roms may have s pen support. The only thing that's keeping me from the note 2 is that samsung isn't releasing as much driver and chip info so developers may not want to or be able to do as much. In the video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTRKL5E9Iak and in a few other threads, its said that cyanogenmod won't officially support the note 2 because of that.
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Makes me sad. Although, what really makes me sad is that i have to carefully weigh the decision of which phone to purchase based on how well it will be supported by private developer community. Weird isn't it? I buy a phone, and change it as soon as i take it out of the box. LG Nexus is sounding better now.
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looks like if Samsung Note owners want to retain the full functionality of their S Pens, they must stick to stock roms
Custom ROM on Note 2 N7100
ShadowVlican said:
looks like if Samsung Note owners want to retain the full functionality of their S Pens, they must stick to stock roms
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Hi, I just flash with Omega V9.1 custom rom + RedHill V1.0 kernel + Philz CWM 3.81 recovery on my Note 2 N7100.
Run smoothly with S Pen (auto pop up), multi-windows, swap ext2SD function.. SUPER SMOOTH...:good:
I'm using my spen without any problems on CM10. Gnote and memo beta work better than the Samsung spen app. The only thing missing are the spen genstures and shortcut for screen capture which I never used and there are dozens of screenshot apps.
Why do people act like the spen does not work outside stock?
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The SPen works fine on custom roms, it's the button features that are missing from (moat) 207 custom roms. Personally I prefer the original functionality that the SPen exhibits in touch wiz, so I'm running a stock(ish) rom.
So to answer your question, wait what was your question again?
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Ok now that I've re-read your op my advice would be to get the note 2 over the lg nexus. Just look at the hardware specs, and you'll really enjoy the extra square footage once you get to know it.
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jimmer411 said:
I'm using my spen without any problems on CM10. Gnote and memo beta work better than the Samsung spen app. The only thing missing are the spen genstures and shortcut for screen capture which I never used and there are dozens of screenshot apps.
Why do people act like the spen does not work outside stock?
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Hello,
I am using slim customr rom, can anybody post a working spen app.
thanks, I will appreciate it
I'm just curious as to why Verizon note 2 is lacking so much in the ROM development side of things compared to other carriers. Is it solely because we are still only 4.1.1? Just thought it would be interesting to see peoples input!
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By the way, sorry if this is in the wrong thread :/
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
Oops! Sorry for taking up space Haha. Didn't look too far into the forums for anything related.
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
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Only a quarter of a year ago....And even in the thread you linked there were whiny people complaining that someone else at some point had asked the question. Lighten up.
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Yet Scott just released a zip that will allow us to flash t mobile, and att roms. Give me a moment, and I will find the thread, and post it here. If you want to see a dead phone, go look at the rezound. The phone is barely a year and a half old, and it is marching into obscurity. The droid incredible has more action. These threads aren't going to produce more roms, just bad attitudes. Try playing with all of the mods we have, and theme it to whatever you want it to be. Morphology, Xposed, and a slew of others. Troll the other carriers threads, and pull mods that you want. That is all we can ask for, unless you are paying the devs a paycheck.
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HughesNet said:
. Lighten up.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Yes, really.
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jbrown30 said:
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Which have you tried? Both Jedi and Jelly Beans are both great. I am using the mod in my sig right now as I like that it keeps the samsung allshare features working.
With a combination of Jelly Beans, Widget Locker, and a theme you could pretty much get anything done you want. Pick up the odd app or mod here and there to fill in the gaps.
By the way, if you want to give 4.1.2 a go Jedi is running that. It is great if you don't need the Samsung services.
Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
Most source built ROMs (AOSP) are going to have issues, whether major or minor, and are much easier to customize as you're dealing with XML and java. However, the lack of TW features keep people away from them.
With TouchWiz ROMs, you don't lose any functionality, but there is only so much that smali hacking can do. Most of this is just the time consuming nature of trying to hack a ROM via smali only. You could get everything in your favorite source built ROM if you wanted to take the time to do so. But, given that this is a for-fun thing and not a money making venture, developers aren't likely to take that amount of time if they wouldn't use it themselves.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
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I would definitely prefer a few quality roms with great support than 27 versions of cyanogenmod that are 98% the same. Beans, MeanBean, Tweaked, Jedi, Elemental...that should be plenty to keep the crack flashers happy.
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Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Appreciate the input man!
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What is a rom really? To me It's just a better version of what the manufacturer builds. The stuff is basically the same for the most part with the addition of tweaks for better battery performance etc... That are added by the dev. The thing that makes a rom different are the things like themes and different looking batteries etc..., so why have 100 roms that essentially are the same? I would prefer to have 1 rom that performs well with a bunch of themes and mods hence i only use meanbean and love the real icon theme, or morphology. Mean bean is a great rom and with pbj kernel even better.
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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This answer makes me glad I didn't flame you last night when I was drunk haha. Meanbean plus morphology is plenty of customization for me haha
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stock android firmware has evolved into something so much better than it use to be...im still on beans build 2 because it flatout works and has all the things I need. Its hard to develop when stock touchwiz is so good out of the box. the only real thing that touchwiz needs is themeing. beans takes the cake on that. aosp was nice on my gs1 because it trimmed the fat and made the ol single core with limited ram run smooth. these quad core beasts are designed to handle bloat and a festure rich skins(touchwiz), so aosp does not have the appeal and performance advantage it use to. however for the folks that
keep this device well past tthe point verizon quits supporting it, then aosp will shine...simply for the fact it will bring the latest android offerings and keep the note 2 alive.
I think it had A LOT to do with TW and Spen/Note 2 specific features. Nobody really wants to lose them, and there's only so many ways to mess with TW. There's plenty of AOSP/KP stuff but look at the involvement compared to TW roms... It's there, but not as much... My take on it anyway.
Edit: Yeah, what Droidstyle said, lol.
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Don't forget that Samsung has promised an update to 4.2 for the Note II sometime this year. No real timetable, but when it comes it will be a shot in the arm for development.
Myself, I bounce between Beans ROM and CyanogenMod. The S-Pen features are what generally keep me hopping, but both are good.
So for the first few months I've had this thing I turned off almost all touchwiz bells and whistles. Bad memories from previously owned samsung devices.
Anywho I've recently been doing a lot of Youtubing and am finding multiwindow very very helpful (I'm mainly interested in the audio). Anyone else found a us for it?
How about the other stuff like air *?
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Anyone else found a us for it?
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I'm not sure if you'd consider this a "use" but multi-window is/was a major factor in my decision to run CM on my S4!
Cool. CM supports multiwin?
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I have been using multi Window for a long time s3 rooms had it to. I use my phone often at work for real work. Reading prints and calculator at the same time, sending emails and reviewing a doc to make sure I am correct.
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Cool. CM supports multiwin?
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Nope that's only for TW no way of easily porting that over and since cm is for many different devices... Let's just say it would be a massive nuclear pain in the ass to even attempt to port it over... Not to mention it would almost certainly be illegal because of patents and probably have to dirty hack with samsung manufacturer code signatures.
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No, I find multiwin to be annoying, I run CM to NOT have any TouchWiz stuff, most of which I don't need or want.
CM does everything I want and/or need so I don't miss any of the TouchWiz annoyances.... err, I mean, features.
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Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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Jamie you the man.
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Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
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so what i am reading here is you have 6 posts. i understand that you cannot post in development yet, but that does not slow you from reading.
i am not a technical brainchild and lack the ability to understand some of the terminology, so you will have to give me a little leeway.
development may have appeared to have slowed, but take into consideration the age of our device and the rate manufacturers are producing devices. we may not ever get another official upgrade for our Note, but my phone has ran better in the last few months than previous 8 months. there are some brilliant folks out there working selflessly for us. you may not find much in the straight CM development department, but since release of 10.2/ 4.3 roms, it is much more stable than 4.2 ever was. it runs smooth and effortless with none of the random reboots which plagued 4.2.
now we have quickly bumped to the 4.4 development which is still in its infancy. give it time. there are 2 Alpha/Preview releases right now, with at least another in the works that i know of. my guess is someone will have a Beta or full release by the end of the week at the rate these guys go. cant hold me to it as i am just a recipient who benefits from their deeds. that's just my guess from what i see as far as their work pace.
so excuse me now, i have to put some Kit Kat 4.4 on my phone, which has only been approval to run official 4.1.2 JB.
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
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Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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Yes, thanks for pointing that out, I will try your builds.
I will be grumpy user, I promise
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Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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as i said take the tour, take some roms for a test drive. i don't know what you consider your experience level is........
everything runs a bit different on everybodys phone. for example, the Carbon rom has lots of cool features, but it just doesn't seem to want to work on my phone. i just don't want you to label all roms on the basis of one. Hellybean runs great on my phone. there are some here that wont give a phone or rom time to settle in. they make so many tweaks and adjustments in a rapid amount of time, they don't know if there adjustments actually did anything.
so be patient......if its not compatible for your phone, you will probably know right away. if it works, give it some time. there are good and helpful people here. just try and help yourself first and read.
getting ready to slam some Kit Kat on my phone right now with Jaime's CM11 preview 4.
As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
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As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
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You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Yeah I know
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Personally, I'm loving the AOSP feel of 4.4 in a way that I have never really cared for it in Android versions prior. The way Google now is integrated into the GEL is how I would use Nova Launcher to setup previous versions.
With it's super stability, I am really praying that you give us something akin to your Nexus or Evervolv roms...Hell if we can just get working TTS and Video camera on top of what you've given us with your alpha, I'm done...............
.......until my next phone.
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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What are you talking about? What strategy? What balance?
Devs are also users. Almost all of the devs work on the devices that they own. We may not have the quantity of devs for other devices, but we definitely have quality devs. I also have GTab 2, and LG Optimus and Galaxy S2 LTE, which I manage for my family. Some have very active devs, some don't, but they all have good devs.
I don't know what you mean by "enough attention from developers", but we are getting plenty from our devs even if we don't deserve them. Whatever we are getting beyond the official 4.1.2 is all gravy. Jamie's CM11 preview is running awesome, and I haven't tried Patch's 4.4 rom, but I expect the same.
What more are you asking for?