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Is there a way to use Samsungs multi window app on an AOSP ROM?
yes.
but it would involve you creating the app.
probably couldnt call it multiwindow...call it dualview.
No, and won't happen unfortunately.
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There is an app called cornerstone multitasking which works simular to multi Window. But it's a tablet app and is only available as a feature that would have to be baked into a rom. Idk if anyone has started using this mod or if it even works for jb. But it appears to have been designed only for 7 and 10 inch tablets. It would look crammed for four or note 2.
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iflip said:
There is an app called cornerstone multitasking which works simular to multi Window. But it's a tablet app and is only available as a feature that would have to be baked into a rom. Idk if anyone has started using this mod or if it even works for jb. But it appears to have been designed only for 7 and 10 inch tablets. It would look crammed for four or note 2.
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Cornerstone has pretty much been abandoned because of bugs. I really wish more would have been done with it so the bugs could've been worked out and I could get rid of touchwiz.
I'm sure other devs will come up with their own variants. And just a matter of time when Android will implement it. Maybe in Android 5 or 6.
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Cornerstone has pretty much been abandoned because of bugs. I really wish more would have been done with it so the bugs could've been worked out and I could get rid of touchwiz.
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It was abandoned because Google told CM that they couldn't implement it into CM.
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It was abandoned because Google told CM that they couldn't implement it into CM.
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Well that's a shame. I'm glad I didn't really use Multi-window enough to find a specific niche for it to matter, since I've moved on to AOSP. There was only a few things holding me back on TouchWiz, and that was one of them. But honestly, there's very few times where it actually is worth using.
It'd still be nice to be an option though. Wonder what the conflict is.
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It was abandoned because Google told CM that they couldn't implement it into CM.
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I never heard that, never even seen a version of CM with it in it (not saying there wasn't one) all the other roms I did see and use that had cornerstone weren't supported very long because of the bugs (the reason the devs gave for not continuing to release with cornerstone)
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I never heard that, never even seen a version of CM with it in it (not saying there wasn't one) all the other roms I did see and use that had cornerstone weren't supported very long because of the bugs (the reason the devs gave for not continuing to release with cornerstone)
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Steve Kondik posted cornerstone pics for CM 10.1 it was going to be implemented but CM was threatened by Google saying they would be banned from the Android Market. If you want to read the full thing it's in the comments of that post. https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/ViCME1bb8F6
Cornerstone for Jelly Bean was just released as open source. I would love to see it baked into Paranoid. Would make a great experience.
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Cornerstone for Jelly Bean was just released as open source. I would love to see it baked into Paranoid. Would make a great experience.
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Where did you see that?
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Where did you see that?
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https://github.com/Onskreen/cornerstone/wiki/Getting-Started:Developers
I'm just curious as to why Verizon note 2 is lacking so much in the ROM development side of things compared to other carriers. Is it solely because we are still only 4.1.1? Just thought it would be interesting to see peoples input!
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By the way, sorry if this is in the wrong thread :/
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
Oops! Sorry for taking up space Haha. Didn't look too far into the forums for anything related.
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nunyazz said:
It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
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Only a quarter of a year ago....And even in the thread you linked there were whiny people complaining that someone else at some point had asked the question. Lighten up.
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Yet Scott just released a zip that will allow us to flash t mobile, and att roms. Give me a moment, and I will find the thread, and post it here. If you want to see a dead phone, go look at the rezound. The phone is barely a year and a half old, and it is marching into obscurity. The droid incredible has more action. These threads aren't going to produce more roms, just bad attitudes. Try playing with all of the mods we have, and theme it to whatever you want it to be. Morphology, Xposed, and a slew of others. Troll the other carriers threads, and pull mods that you want. That is all we can ask for, unless you are paying the devs a paycheck.
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HughesNet said:
. Lighten up.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Yes, really.
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jbrown30 said:
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Which have you tried? Both Jedi and Jelly Beans are both great. I am using the mod in my sig right now as I like that it keeps the samsung allshare features working.
With a combination of Jelly Beans, Widget Locker, and a theme you could pretty much get anything done you want. Pick up the odd app or mod here and there to fill in the gaps.
By the way, if you want to give 4.1.2 a go Jedi is running that. It is great if you don't need the Samsung services.
Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
Most source built ROMs (AOSP) are going to have issues, whether major or minor, and are much easier to customize as you're dealing with XML and java. However, the lack of TW features keep people away from them.
With TouchWiz ROMs, you don't lose any functionality, but there is only so much that smali hacking can do. Most of this is just the time consuming nature of trying to hack a ROM via smali only. You could get everything in your favorite source built ROM if you wanted to take the time to do so. But, given that this is a for-fun thing and not a money making venture, developers aren't likely to take that amount of time if they wouldn't use it themselves.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
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I would definitely prefer a few quality roms with great support than 27 versions of cyanogenmod that are 98% the same. Beans, MeanBean, Tweaked, Jedi, Elemental...that should be plenty to keep the crack flashers happy.
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Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Appreciate the input man!
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What is a rom really? To me It's just a better version of what the manufacturer builds. The stuff is basically the same for the most part with the addition of tweaks for better battery performance etc... That are added by the dev. The thing that makes a rom different are the things like themes and different looking batteries etc..., so why have 100 roms that essentially are the same? I would prefer to have 1 rom that performs well with a bunch of themes and mods hence i only use meanbean and love the real icon theme, or morphology. Mean bean is a great rom and with pbj kernel even better.
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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This answer makes me glad I didn't flame you last night when I was drunk haha. Meanbean plus morphology is plenty of customization for me haha
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stock android firmware has evolved into something so much better than it use to be...im still on beans build 2 because it flatout works and has all the things I need. Its hard to develop when stock touchwiz is so good out of the box. the only real thing that touchwiz needs is themeing. beans takes the cake on that. aosp was nice on my gs1 because it trimmed the fat and made the ol single core with limited ram run smooth. these quad core beasts are designed to handle bloat and a festure rich skins(touchwiz), so aosp does not have the appeal and performance advantage it use to. however for the folks that
keep this device well past tthe point verizon quits supporting it, then aosp will shine...simply for the fact it will bring the latest android offerings and keep the note 2 alive.
I think it had A LOT to do with TW and Spen/Note 2 specific features. Nobody really wants to lose them, and there's only so many ways to mess with TW. There's plenty of AOSP/KP stuff but look at the involvement compared to TW roms... It's there, but not as much... My take on it anyway.
Edit: Yeah, what Droidstyle said, lol.
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Don't forget that Samsung has promised an update to 4.2 for the Note II sometime this year. No real timetable, but when it comes it will be a shot in the arm for development.
Myself, I bounce between Beans ROM and CyanogenMod. The S-Pen features are what generally keep me hopping, but both are good.
Is there a pure AOSP rom out there or nearly pure made to work with the DNA?
Short answer: Nope
Long answer: You are more than welcome to look through the Development thread. There are only a dozen or so Roms so it shouldn't take you too long
Longer answer: CM10.1 is in the works but I'm not sure its at daily driver status yet.
Sorry for the sarcasm...
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Short answer: Nope
Long answer: You are more than welcome to look through the Development thread. There are only a dozen or so Roms so it shouldn't take you too long
Longer answer: CM10.1 is in the works but I'm not sure its at daily driver status yet.
Sorry for the sarcasm...
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Lol your longer answer wasshorter than the long answer
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Cm 10.1 is working except for camera iirc.
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Cm 10.1 is working except for camera iirc.
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Yep. It's almost there. As soon as the camera is working I would consider it dd status
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I've been using CM 10.1 for my dd for a little over a week and have had no issues other than the lack of camera and an easily removed issue with GPS.
I'm no developer, but from my experience with the LG Spectrum, once CM has all of the hardware functioning, then AOSP and AOKP are not terribly difficult. In the case of the spectrum, a fully functional pacman ROM was released a few months after CM was completed.
Question of my own. What exactly needs to be done to gain official support for CM? I would love to be able to flash nightlies like on my nexus 7.
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Cm is not pure aosp.
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I've been using CM 10.1 for my dd for a little over a week and have had no issues other than the lack of camera and an easily removed issue with GPS.
I'm no developer, but from my experience with the LG Spectrum, once CM has all of the hardware functioning, then AOSP and AOKP are not terribly difficult. In the case of the spectrum, a fully functional pacman ROM was released a few months after CM was completed.
Question of my own. What exactly needs to be done to gain official support for CM? I would love to be able to flash nightlies like on my nexus 7.
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I've been using it as dd off and on. It's good enough for me to use it a few days a week for now. I really hope development picks up after cm10 is ready. I feel like not enough developers have this phone for there to be a lot of support. Idk if devs actually need the phone to make ROMs for it though.
Regardless, Chad, cr, fly, and the other devs working on cm have done a spectacular job. If we have a cm ROM, aokp, and pa I will be ecstatic.
Is there any point in having a 100% pure aosp ROM?
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Cm is not pure aosp.
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I'm aware. But it is close, so once CM is achieved, it wouldn't be too hard to get AOSP. Or at least that is how it was explained to me.
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I'm aware. But it is close, so once CM is achieved, it wouldn't be too hard to get AOSP. Or at least that is how it was explained to me.
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Why? Cm is aosp with fixes and more options. It's literally better.
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Why? Cm is aosp with fixes and more options. It's literally better.
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I agree, but some people prefer just plain AOSP. My girlfriend is that way.
Wish that would port paradroid...would be nasty on this phone..
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I agree, but some people prefer just plain AOSP. My girlfriend is that way.
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But it IS AOSP. Even so, how can someone prefer less options? Not even that, how can someone prefer a worse experience?
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But it IS AOSP. Even so, how can someone prefer less options? Not even that, how can someone prefer a worse experience?
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Because everyone is different...
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But it IS AOSP. Even so, how can someone prefer less options? Not even that, how can someone prefer a worse experience?
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i don't want all the crap themeing and "mods" that come with CM, I just want pure android, if I want to add something ill do it myself.
I've contemplated back and forth for some time whether I want to build AOSP for the DNA. The camera really has been a PITA for another device I've been working on; It shouldn't be as camera works on CM10.1. However, it would suck to put all that work into it for the camera to be the hold up (although, I don't think it will be as difficult since its 8mp and the one I have somewhat working is 13mp).
The main issue is that if I build AOSP (well technically I have already built it), I would prefer to stick to google's base code as much as possible without bringing in CAF/CM code to achieve goals. Doing this, makes things a bit more difficult.
I suppose it's also a bit of whether it is worth the effort and if people really want it as well.
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I've contemplated back and forth for some time whether I want to build AOSP for the DNA. The camera really has been a PITA for another device I've been working on; It shouldn't be as camera works on CM10.1. However, it would suck to put all that work into it for the camera to be the hold up (although, I don't think it will be as difficult since its 8mp and the one I have somewhat working is 13mp).
The main issue is that if I build AOSP (well technically I have already built it), I would prefer to stick to google's base code as much as possible without bringing in CAF/CM code to achieve goals. Doing this, makes things a bit more difficult.
I suppose it's also a bit of whether it is worth the effort and if people really want it as well.
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Iam sure people will want goodies from you, drew.
Just put your stuff in front of public and see how people gobble them up :fingers-crossed:
I see your Schwartz is as big as mine!
CM, AOSP ... it's all gravy.. they'll get it.. all of it.. in time.. They have made enormous stride with CM 10.1 it's almost unbelievable what they've accomplished.. DD for me.. because from here on out, it's all fixes and tweaks.. I wouldn't mind a pure Vanilla AOSP rom, but these things take time.. We'll get there.. Not just yet.. but I'm sure things are cooking now that many of the issues have been fixed..
Hey everyone, I'm new here so be gentle. As the title suggests, I am wondering what the physical limitations are that are keeping all the TW features (like air view and gestures) from being implemented in AOSP based roms? I love the "pure" android feel but I also love these features. Thanks for any answers you guys can give.
Tw features require tw framework to work and same thing around with aosp features (halo) to tw, I'm pretty sure someone can even try implementing it but chances are closer to almost impossible as it requires a lot of heavy coding.
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Tw features require tw framework to work and same thing around with aosp features (halo) to tw, I'm pretty sure someone can even try implementing it but chances are closer to almost impossible as it requires a lot of heavy coding.
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So it is technically possible? I understand that it would take a lot of work. I now wonder if any developer would be willing to have a go at it
Many devs wouldn't want to give a go at it it's just too time consuming just to get something ported over, it's technically possible, yes, but just not worth the time.
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So it is technically possible? I understand that it would take a lot of work. I now wonder if any developer would be willing to have a go at it
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actually, some devs are working on the google edition roms. which is probably exactly what you're looking for.
The only thing is getting the apks to what you want and getting the developers to work on it and get all the bugs out first
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actually, some devs are working on the google edition roms. which is probably exactly what you're looking for.
The only thing is getting the apks to what you want and getting the developers to work on it and get all the bugs out first
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Yeah closest you can ever get with tw things ported are the ge roms since I heard they have tw elements in it.
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actually, some devs are working on the google edition roms. which is probably exactly what you're looking for.
The only thing is getting the apks to what you want and getting the developers to work on it and get all the bugs out first
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Oh the google edition roms have the TW features? I didnt know that :laugh:
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Oh the google edition roms have the TW features? I didnt know that :laugh:
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Not necessarily, it just has some tw framework in there that's seems to be just put there.
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Not necessarily, it just has some tw framework in there that's seems to be just put there.
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Oh. So that would lead the way to developers integrating TW features?
In a way, possibly. Heard beans tried removing and adding things but the rom became unbootable.
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The GE software will pretty much allow you to run TW apps, but as far as features like smart scroll and air view it will likely never happen.
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The GE software will pretty much allow you to run TW apps, but as far as features like smart scroll and air view it will likely never happen.
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Hmmm. That sucks Thanks for the answers everyone!
The biggest thing is the closed sourced drivers, libs, and jar files on top of the built in framewroks. AOSP stands for open source so you can see where to conflict would be.
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Multiwindow provides true multitasking abilities and Samsung has shown that it works great.
However none of the asop based roms have this ability.
Cyanogen started work on it but Google cut it short. But I guess Google said nothing when Samsung did the same thing.
Recently Paranoid android team started to work on it, but still very primitive.
Does anyone know any developer working on getting this feature ?
I think they did something like that on paranadroid rom
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Bump.. I'd love to see this in AOSP, until then i'd also like to see more apps have widget interfaces which could provide a similar effect. IE A widget for browser and an IM chat widget so you can have both open at once.
It is hard to get this working without breaking Samsung copyrights. Some are working in it but some are not as they see no real benifit from it.
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It is hard to get this working without breaking Samsung copyrights. Some are working in it but some are not as they see no real benifit from it.
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Am not talking about using Samsung framework but something that is independent like cornerstone by cyanogen
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Am not talking about using Samsung framework but something that is independent like cornerstone by cyanogen
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I never said anything about their framework. I said copyrights. They are very different things. You have to understand that the way something is done on a code level can be copyrighted and in doing so no one else can make it happen in the same way. So it would be pretty much rewritting the entire function from scratch. Then they have to make sure that it is not breaking copyrights.
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