Multiwindow for asop - Who is on it ? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Multiwindow provides true multitasking abilities and Samsung has shown that it works great.
However none of the asop based roms have this ability.
Cyanogen started work on it but Google cut it short. But I guess Google said nothing when Samsung did the same thing.
Recently Paranoid android team started to work on it, but still very primitive.
Does anyone know any developer working on getting this feature ?

I think they did something like that on paranadroid rom
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Bump.. I'd love to see this in AOSP, until then i'd also like to see more apps have widget interfaces which could provide a similar effect. IE A widget for browser and an IM chat widget so you can have both open at once.

It is hard to get this working without breaking Samsung copyrights. Some are working in it but some are not as they see no real benifit from it.
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zelendel said:
It is hard to get this working without breaking Samsung copyrights. Some are working in it but some are not as they see no real benifit from it.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Am not talking about using Samsung framework but something that is independent like cornerstone by cyanogen
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aalupatti said:
Am not talking about using Samsung framework but something that is independent like cornerstone by cyanogen
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I never said anything about their framework. I said copyrights. They are very different things. You have to understand that the way something is done on a code level can be copyrighted and in doing so no one else can make it happen in the same way. So it would be pretty much rewritting the entire function from scratch. Then they have to make sure that it is not breaking copyrights.
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Anyone care to port or help me port the Galaxy Note 10.1's TouchWiz interface. I know it is possible by removing the dependencies and everything else the apps rely on in the framework. I'd like to make this my little project if someone would kindly lend a helping hand in starting this endeavour. I would need major hand holding on this but I'm sure I can do most of the porting myself if someone would help me along the way. I'm just a Themer so I don't know much about coding, but I'm a quick learner
- Below is the system dump/ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876240&styleid=18
I'm currently running the Memo and Task Manager apps that came with the 1st Gen Galaxy S devices on my TouchPad.
If anyone's interested in this, please let me know.
The attached apk's were made possible by Tortel1210. Copy and paste the apps into /system/apps
Original Thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452004
Tortel1210 wrote up a great guide on how he got these proprietary apps to run on AOSP here -> http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/porting-touchwiz-apps-for-cm7.html
that would be pretty damn awesome! unfortunately i cant help at all and am completely clueless about programming
Do you wish to port the actual UI (the interface), or just port all of the apps that rely on the framework?
agg23 said:
Do you wish to port the actual UI (the interface), or just port all of the apps that rely on the framework?
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The UI, including the apps would be awesome as a full port. I asked a seasoned port master, Xboxfanj, from the Epic 4G forums to help along with this as a port. As soon as I hear from him on his participation in this project I'll let everyone else know so we can sync up and get this going. I *might be able to get the apps ported by myself, but I'll be sure to post back on my progress, or lack there of.
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theduce102 said:
The UI, including the apps would be awesome as a full port. I asked a seasoned port master, Xboxfanj, from the Epic 4G forums to help along with this as a port. As soon as I hear from him on his participation in this project I'll let everyone else know so we can sync up and get this going. I *might be able to get the apps ported by myself, but I'll be sure to post back on my progress, or lack there of.
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Hm... OK
I would offer to help, but I have several other projects I'm dedicated to, so I don't really have the time. Good luck though!
cool idea! would be awesome
curious if you got any people to help yet, or just going at it alone?
I'm a bit more interested in seeing that split screen functionality from the note 2 and 10.1 . Too bad I have no programming behind me :banghead:
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FC1032 said:
I'm a bit more interested in seeing that split screen functionality from the note 2 and 10.1 . Too bad I have no programming behind me :banghead:
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You mean like this? Kinda old, but was stable. Definitely worth trying (I recommend the CM version)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501637
Posted by Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
zanderman112 said:
You mean like this? Kinda old, but was stable. Definitely worth trying (I recommend the CM version)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501637
Posted by Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
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Ran that a while back. Don't remember which build, but it didn't have working wallpapers
Wish it got updated. I mean the rest if the tp has moved quite well
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This would be awesome. Hope you guys can get it figured out.
Thanks for that Memo App. it works nice on the TP. would be awesome if we could get something like the note going on this. anybody have a stylus they can recommend that is good for writing on tp?

Ubuntu Developer Preview DNA Compatibility

Anyone know if sideloading the Ubuntu Developer Preview would work with CWM on our phone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBJ7U3omGps
We need to get a working CM build before we can do that. Currently, the N4 and GN builds are using a CM kernel as a base for the Ubuntu Dev preview. Theoretically, we can build something that boots (since we do have a booting CM build) it would lack a ton of things though such as voice and data.
If someone knows a bit more info, feel free to correct me.
The developer preview is limited in these functionalities anyway as far as I'm aware
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jonesin said:
The developer preview is limited in these functionalities anyway as far as I'm aware
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It has no cdma or LTE compatibility as of now. Gsm only. There is an extensive list of known issues. Its pretty sweet though. Got it on my nexus 7.
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I think the dev preview is only for the nexus products for now. They will come out with more support later.
atishpatel2012 said:
I think the dev preview is only for the nexus products for now. They will come out with more support later.
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They have instructions for porting it to any device.
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to my knowledge the preview doesn't even have mobile data functionality for gsm for now its only wifi, text and calls
After watching several videos on Ubuntu, I'm both excited to try it, and little confused. In almost all videos, it looks almost exactly like Android. The task bar looks the same, it pulls down the same way, the icons look basically the same.
Don't get me wrong, I love having options, but it doesn't seem to be very unique.
Any thoughts on this?
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Serinety said:
After watching several videos on Ubuntu, I'm both excited to try it, and little confused. In almost all videos, it looks almost exactly like Android. The task bar looks the same, it pulls down the same way, the icons look basically the same.
Don't get me wrong, I love having options, but it doesn't seem to be very unique.
Any thoughts on this?
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There are several differences. First of all, the thing you will most readily notice is that there are not button/hardware or otherwise for the ubuntu phone OS, it uses gestures similar to the blackberry 10 OS. In some instances this is better at other times, it is nice to have a button. In the long term, your benefit will be the ability to have a larger screen on a smaller device since you won't have to have a longer device to accomadate the buttons.
From a more technical standpoint, using pure linux removes some of the more contentious parts of android like the use of Java. Some of which may provide a faster user experience on the same hardware if Ubuntu can manage to ditch xorg. You could also, argue that the app availability and scalability of ubuntu is greater than android. In other words, soon you'll be able to walk around with a linux device that you can plug into a monitor and blu-tooth keyboard and have a full fledge desktop all from the same hardware -- Carry one device - access it anywhere and in whatever capacity you need it at that time.
Put it on my galaxy nexus it's not really all that it is fun to play with but I had problems with calls. DNA is much better but stock android will make this the best device all day. If only it had the front stereo speakers powered by beats this phone would never need to be upgraded
idkwhothatis123 said:
It has no cdma or LTE compatibility as of now. Gsm only. There is an extensive list of known issues. Its pretty sweet though. Got it on my nexus 7.
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And how do you feel about it so far? Been thinking about doing the same thing with my N7..... but not having the ability to use my already purchased apps and what not is deterring me at the moment.
UrGuardian999 said:
And how do you feel about it so far? Been thinking about doing the same thing with my N7..... but not having the ability to use my already purchased apps and what not is deterring me at the moment.
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I love the look of ubuntu as an OS, and this kind if follows suit. It is buggy as hell though. I no longer am using it. Its fun to tinker with but that's about it.
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idkwhothatis123 said:
I love the look of ubuntu as an OS, and this kind if follows suit. It is buggy as hell though. I no longer am using it. Its fun to tinker with but that's about it.
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I guess we'll have to see when it stabilizes whether it's worthy of replacing OG Android

Multi window on AOSP

Is there a way to use Samsungs multi window app on an AOSP ROM?
yes.
but it would involve you creating the app.
probably couldnt call it multiwindow...call it dualview.
No, and won't happen unfortunately.
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There is an app called cornerstone multitasking which works simular to multi Window. But it's a tablet app and is only available as a feature that would have to be baked into a rom. Idk if anyone has started using this mod or if it even works for jb. But it appears to have been designed only for 7 and 10 inch tablets. It would look crammed for four or note 2.
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iflip said:
There is an app called cornerstone multitasking which works simular to multi Window. But it's a tablet app and is only available as a feature that would have to be baked into a rom. Idk if anyone has started using this mod or if it even works for jb. But it appears to have been designed only for 7 and 10 inch tablets. It would look crammed for four or note 2.
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Cornerstone has pretty much been abandoned because of bugs. I really wish more would have been done with it so the bugs could've been worked out and I could get rid of touchwiz.
I'm sure other devs will come up with their own variants. And just a matter of time when Android will implement it. Maybe in Android 5 or 6.
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Cornerstone has pretty much been abandoned because of bugs. I really wish more would have been done with it so the bugs could've been worked out and I could get rid of touchwiz.
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It was abandoned because Google told CM that they couldn't implement it into CM.
JetBlue said:
It was abandoned because Google told CM that they couldn't implement it into CM.
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Well that's a shame. I'm glad I didn't really use Multi-window enough to find a specific niche for it to matter, since I've moved on to AOSP. There was only a few things holding me back on TouchWiz, and that was one of them. But honestly, there's very few times where it actually is worth using.
It'd still be nice to be an option though. Wonder what the conflict is.
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It was abandoned because Google told CM that they couldn't implement it into CM.
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I never heard that, never even seen a version of CM with it in it (not saying there wasn't one) all the other roms I did see and use that had cornerstone weren't supported very long because of the bugs (the reason the devs gave for not continuing to release with cornerstone)
eraursls1984 said:
I never heard that, never even seen a version of CM with it in it (not saying there wasn't one) all the other roms I did see and use that had cornerstone weren't supported very long because of the bugs (the reason the devs gave for not continuing to release with cornerstone)
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Steve Kondik posted cornerstone pics for CM 10.1 it was going to be implemented but CM was threatened by Google saying they would be banned from the Android Market. If you want to read the full thing it's in the comments of that post. https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/ViCME1bb8F6
Cornerstone for Jelly Bean was just released as open source. I would love to see it baked into Paranoid. Would make a great experience.
txyaloo said:
Cornerstone for Jelly Bean was just released as open source. I would love to see it baked into Paranoid. Would make a great experience.
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Where did you see that?
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Where did you see that?
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https://github.com/Onskreen/cornerstone/wiki/Getting-Started:Developers

[Q] What's keeping TW features out of AOSP roms?

Hey everyone, I'm new here so be gentle. As the title suggests, I am wondering what the physical limitations are that are keeping all the TW features (like air view and gestures) from being implemented in AOSP based roms? I love the "pure" android feel but I also love these features. Thanks for any answers you guys can give.
Tw features require tw framework to work and same thing around with aosp features (halo) to tw, I'm pretty sure someone can even try implementing it but chances are closer to almost impossible as it requires a lot of heavy coding.
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Addiso said:
Tw features require tw framework to work and same thing around with aosp features (halo) to tw, I'm pretty sure someone can even try implementing it but chances are closer to almost impossible as it requires a lot of heavy coding.
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So it is technically possible? I understand that it would take a lot of work. I now wonder if any developer would be willing to have a go at it
Many devs wouldn't want to give a go at it it's just too time consuming just to get something ported over, it's technically possible, yes, but just not worth the time.
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So it is technically possible? I understand that it would take a lot of work. I now wonder if any developer would be willing to have a go at it
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actually, some devs are working on the google edition roms. which is probably exactly what you're looking for.
The only thing is getting the apks to what you want and getting the developers to work on it and get all the bugs out first
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actually, some devs are working on the google edition roms. which is probably exactly what you're looking for.
The only thing is getting the apks to what you want and getting the developers to work on it and get all the bugs out first
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Yeah closest you can ever get with tw things ported are the ge roms since I heard they have tw elements in it.
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theidoctor said:
actually, some devs are working on the google edition roms. which is probably exactly what you're looking for.
The only thing is getting the apks to what you want and getting the developers to work on it and get all the bugs out first
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Oh the google edition roms have the TW features? I didnt know that :laugh:
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Oh the google edition roms have the TW features? I didnt know that :laugh:
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Not necessarily, it just has some tw framework in there that's seems to be just put there.
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Not necessarily, it just has some tw framework in there that's seems to be just put there.
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Oh. So that would lead the way to developers integrating TW features?
In a way, possibly. Heard beans tried removing and adding things but the rom became unbootable.
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The GE software will pretty much allow you to run TW apps, but as far as features like smart scroll and air view it will likely never happen.
mbh87 said:
The GE software will pretty much allow you to run TW apps, but as far as features like smart scroll and air view it will likely never happen.
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Hmmm. That sucks Thanks for the answers everyone!
The biggest thing is the closed sourced drivers, libs, and jar files on top of the built in framewroks. AOSP stands for open source so you can see where to conflict would be.
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MultiWindow - is it growing on you?

So for the first few months I've had this thing I turned off almost all touchwiz bells and whistles. Bad memories from previously owned samsung devices.
Anywho I've recently been doing a lot of Youtubing and am finding multiwindow very very helpful (I'm mainly interested in the audio). Anyone else found a us for it?
How about the other stuff like air *?
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Anyone else found a us for it?
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I'm not sure if you'd consider this a "use" but multi-window is/was a major factor in my decision to run CM on my S4!
Cool. CM supports multiwin?
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I have been using multi Window for a long time s3 rooms had it to. I use my phone often at work for real work. Reading prints and calculator at the same time, sending emails and reviewing a doc to make sure I am correct.
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Cool. CM supports multiwin?
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Nope that's only for TW no way of easily porting that over and since cm is for many different devices... Let's just say it would be a massive nuclear pain in the ass to even attempt to port it over... Not to mention it would almost certainly be illegal because of patents and probably have to dirty hack with samsung manufacturer code signatures.
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Cool. CM supports multiwin?
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No, I find multiwin to be annoying, I run CM to NOT have any TouchWiz stuff, most of which I don't need or want.
CM does everything I want and/or need so I don't miss any of the TouchWiz annoyances.... err, I mean, features.

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