What are the benefits in daily use that you are seeing from ICS over GB?
I'm running my SGSII on GB and have a few minimal issues:
I have the calendar notification bug where following a notification, the calendar will regularly wake up the CPU, causing battery drain
Occasionally unresponsive home screen for a second or two
Audio volume from the handset isn't great
I think ICS may fix the first and last, but would guess the second is launcher related. From reading ROM threads, people on ICS are getting random reboots, smoothness is poorer than GB, battery life is generally a bit worse, there's been issues with SMS (blanks and duplicates). Overall, it seems like I'd be swapping some issues for others.
Overall, I find my phone a pleasure to use most of the time, so am not keen to mess with it, unlike my previous ZTE Blade which was poor out of the box, so I was always trying new custom ROMs.
Any thoughts?
megapleb said:
What are the benefits in daily use that you are seeing from ICS over GB?
ICS is blue .
I'm running my SGSII on GB and have a few minimal issues:
leave it alone then for now .
I have the calendar notification bug where following a notification, the calendar will regularly wake up the CPU, causing battery drain
Occasionally unresponsive home screen for a second or two
Audio volume from the handset isn't great
I think ICS may fix the first and last, but would guess the second is launcher related. From reading ROM threads, people on ICS are getting random reboots, smoothness is poorer than GB, battery life is generally a bit worse, there's been issues with SMS (blanks and duplicates). Overall, it seems like I'd be swapping some issues for others.
Possible but many that have rushed to flash ICS are lacking in experience .
Overall, I find my phone a pleasure to use most of the time, so am not keen to mess with it, unlike my previous ZTE Blade which was poor out of the box, so I was always trying new custom ROMs.
Personal still on GB until i can have an ICS rom that matches it .
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Was just wondering about the general usability/speed/stability of the X10 Mini Pro after properly rooting, optimizing, etc. I'm on a small budget and was thinking of buying a used one. I'm attracted by the keyboard and the compact design, but I really REALLY do hate lag/hanging on UI and simple applications (ie gmail, texting, music, phone, non-flash web browsing).
I'm coming from a dying HTC Hero that is suffering from numerous hardware problems. Any comparisons to the Hero would be helpful, as the Hero was still seemingly laggy with newest custom ROMs.
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well it depends on how far you like to optimize it. if using the stock firmware, you can expect some lag here and there (esp if you use so many widgets and auto sync feature). But if you want to use it with CM6, you can expect some improvement here and there, but if you are using it as a phone that is. If you like to open program that needs root access in CM6, you can expect some reboot (unless future CM 6 reboot issue is resolved)
For me though, i'm staying with stock one, because i do need rooting. a bit lag, fine by me. i'm already getting used to it.
The lag does happen. But not always. I'm using stock rom too, and noticed that the lag get worse when the battery is <50% (I'm using setcpu to set this, my bad). If it's fine to lose battery quick, than the lag will be less
just looking for opinions and why you like it better than the others
MIUI.
Positives:
1) Doesn't require messing with bootloaders (the only way to hard brick your phone and kill it permanently)
2) It's built from the ground up. MIUI is the only ROM I've flashed that doesn't feel like an incremental upgrade. So many new features have been added, both big (instantly downloadable and apply-able themes without the need for flashing or cache clearing) and small (long pressing notification icons takes you to their respective settings). There are many, many, many, MANY more features. There's a list on the stock MIUI thread over in Vibrant Development.
3) Smoothness. Any and all 2.2 roms have some measure of lag in certain situations. MIUI has none. My personal example is Aqua Pets. Under 2.2, even when OC'd, the casting line would jolt just a touch every so often, and sometimes very often. Under MIUI, it hasn't occurred even once.
Negatives.
1) GPS issues (shared by all 2.3 ROMs). It isn't as easy to use as on Froyo. Remedied by running Angry GPS or GPS Test or a similar program a few minutes before you need navigation. Takes a while to get the initial lock, but once you're locked on, it works perfectly, even indoors.
2) Battery life (again, shared by all 2.3 ROMs). Now that I've let my particular version of MIUI settle in, the battery life is lasting longer (30+ hours as of this writing, at 18%) However, Froyo lasts longer than Gingerbread, pretty much across the board.
CM7.101
CM 7.101 = ROCK SOLID STABLE
Close to AOSP, no bloatware no Touchwiz to slow you down.
GPS works if you do hardware fix and flash gpsfix.zip However Vibrant's GPS still sucks compared to HTC hw.
No 911 dialing is a problem
Unfortunately like all ROMs that run Linux 2.6.4.13+ kernel we get a weird intermittent Android OS battery drain bug. Sometimes it's there and drains battery sometimes it's not and works fine....
I can imagine this may have been asked before, yet I can't find any definitive answers, to what are the benefits to running ICS over Gingerbread at this time?
I dont really think there is much right at this moment, due to the ICS being out is so buggy, but i read alot of positive about CM9 which is running ICS - though one major drawback for me is the USB mount doesn't work.
But after playing around with my dads Galaxy Nexus, the diffrence aint gamebreaking. Surely its optimised in other ways, better interface imo - but again, Gingerbread is really great, and i will surely stick to this untill ROM chefs starts to cook roms on stable ICS releases.
Eventually check out my thread where some people are talking about ICS and the benefits from it compared to Gingerbread
right, ics is still buggy. but check out some of the very good custom ics roms in the development forum. some of them now are more stable than they previously do. i mean, stable enough for daily use.
apparently ICS has a lot of benefit over GB:
some of the good points:
- smoother ui animation (you'll feel more smoother than GB, also there are more transition animation added)
- improved google apps (gmail, calendar, maps, phone, sms have been redesigned and feels better than current version in GB)
- voice dictation (different from the one in GB, instead of "press-speak-press-speak", now you can keep speaking and the word will come out as you speak)
- face unlock (no need to introduce)
- options to encrypt the phone memory (forget if GB has it)
- some new widgets (some of the custom roms use AOSP apps instead of the samsung one, e.g. the calendar widget looks much better now)
- camera app seems to open faster
some problems:
- usb mass storage not working (may get fixed in the future, but now you can use MTP instead, if you are using windows or mac. linux users can have some problem with that)
- some apps don't work with ICS (most apps work, for the rest we need to wait for update to support ics)
- battery drain issue (there have been several report for battery drain on "Android OS" process, google seems to fix it in 4.0.4, so we just need to wait. currently mine can last over 10h with moderate use)
- remember it's still in alpha/beta stage, so backup your data!
if you are really interested, make a full backup using CWM and try to flash some of the roms. you can always go back to ginger bread by recovering the backup. hope this helps
I tried one of the cyanogenmod alpha builds from codeworkx and i had the impression that the menu is cleanear and more tidied up all in all. dont know if thats an ics or a cyanogenmod thing though.
my wireless lan seemed to work better, too
THUDUK said:
I can imagine this may have been asked before, yet I can't find any definitive answers, to what are the benefits to running ICS over Gingerbread at this time?
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After being on ICS Remix 8.6 by Westcrip, I "feel" the browsing, the sliding and most of the navigation on the phone is happening a lot faster.
Before February I felt like my old Gingerbread-thingy by Eskimo i belive... was the nuts. Now its like playing in a other league.
My SG2 feels generally Smoooottthheeeer
My 3 cents
The taste is better
BigMrB said:
The taste is better
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More for hot weather, really.
Hi,
Hello,
I've been trying to read around but I ended up with nothing.
Can anyone offer suggestions for which ROM i might use.
I've been on stock HC, but got bored with slow speeds and skype playing up... So I just s-off and install stock GB.
Really I want a nice smooth ROM, ideally with pen, hw buttons and root. I don't need any specific OS. But I can't seem to find many non-'stock ROMs that cater for pro-grade which is very important for me.
Any suggestions please. Its late and I've run out of steam for looking.
Thanks,
S.
I'm usually not a fan of "what is the best ROM" threads. But seeing as activity is close to nothing on this forum for some time right now, there aren't really any active threads on the topic, so it seems like a valid question.
When I first switched to HC (must have been way back in late 2011) it seemed to perform close to as smoothly as GB. Really not much different at all in smoothness (insignificant really), despite some people's claims that HC is so laggy compared to GB. Now, I feel the tablet is super laggy. But I think it has more to do with now owning a One X phone since may, which is so much faster, and much better CPU specs. Faster than any Android device on the market when it was released.
At first I thought maybe the ROM had just slowed down over time, and bogged down with processes, apps etc. So I did a full data wipe, and flashed the newest version of the custom ROM I was on. And the performance did not change. So I really do think its just a perception thing.
Now I'm digressing quite a bit from your question. I played around with a few ROMs here and there (mostly earier in the year) and settled on HoneySense. It gives you the option to turn the hardware keys back on, and some other cool features. I don't feel that it makes the tablet any less laggy, even overclocked (maybe just a tiny bit). But I did seem to have a decent gain in idle battery life, which is certainly a good thing.
HC version of LeeDroid is pretty good too. But the app drawer was just too crowded for me. I think the dev was going to make some mods for different app drawer layouts to remedy this, but it never happened AFAIK. Its just a personal taste, you might think its fine.
I also tried the Sense version of IOIDroid for a short time. It had some real potential. Not sure how the dev did it, but it seemed significantly smoother than HoneySense. But there was a few things that were deal breakers for me. It has the AOSP keyboard, (I found this choice a bit odd, since there is also a "Senseless" version of this ROM)where I really prefer the Sense one. Also, I could not get Gmail working, which is a must have for me. Wouldn't even let me install it from the Market.
I never got into the ICS or JB ROMs. Still too many things not working quite right. Development has slowed. But hopefully the dev (Dexter) has not completely left our device.
For fast, lag free and all stuff working use FlyHIGH GB rom. Ull limit yourselves with apps for HC / ICS but hell, rom runs great. I did try HC Leedroid, ICS XXL and JB, LeeDroid GB and ofc stock GB and stock HC. FlyHigh is best for mine usage since on top off all i need phone calls via BT. With good setup ull have good tab look even on GB. I also find out HW keys r awsome compare to HC/ICS/JB low menu buttons. I am missing those a lot on SGT2.
jprednik said:
For fast, lag free and all stuff working use FlyHIGH GB rom. Ull limit yourselves with apps for HC / ICS but hell, rom runs great. I did try HC Leedroid, ICS XXL and JB, LeeDroid GB and ofc stock GB and stock HC. FlyHigh is best for mine usage since on top off all i need phone calls via BT. With good setup ull have good tab look even on GB. I also find out HW keys r awsome compare to HC/ICS/JB low menu buttons. I am missing those a lot on SGT2.
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Is have to use Bluetooth headset for making the phone call on GB 2.3.4 stock Rom on Flyer?
Is any one use Flyer to make phone call without BT as the way cell phone did?
Is FlyHIGH GB rom still need to use the BT to make the phone call?
Hi there,
So 4.0.4 build ICS 4.1.B.0.587 has been out for Ray for quite some time now and I cant seem to find any topic, video, ANYTHING about how good it actually is?
Going to Sony forums is quite a hassle since most users there arent that tech savvy and you get puzzled answers at best...
So Im asking you guys, have you tried it, how good is it and is it worth upgrading over the old GB?
Specifily Id like to know about these things:
- HD Video recording still lags, stutters?
- Dialer opening up in this century (or is it taking 5 s still)?
- Overall smoothness any better?
Thanks, peace out!
Laggy, mono sound, led notification bug, call menu bug, worse battery life.
It's a downgrade not an upgrade.
Since I don't have xperia ray so I used my frnd's for some days and I used it first in gb, then in ics..
-I hardly suffered any faults in hd video recording(except that while starting the recording it took a bit time,nearly 4seconds for it to start)
-For dialer, I didn't found any flaws, lags etc.
-Smoothness for better in gb(as expected)
Going on gaming the smaller games worked fine...but as soon as I downloaded some big games they took sometime before starting and during playing too I experienced some lags...
Overall I would like to say that,
GB: Smooth, good for gaming, fast
ICS: Nice looks, more apps supported, more features(some features that u may not find in gb)
But this is my review and further the choice is yours. Using gb or ics depends on the purpose you're using your mobile.
If u like mah review, Press thanks,
Regards,
Abhinav
Sent from my Xperia Mini Pro using xda premium
Really appreciate both posts Would like to hear more opinions if there are any...
It seems most opinions about the new ICS build are totally contradictionary which is weird :cyclops:
Oh and how is the camera quality? Im guessing its still compressed heavily?
Well, make a backup and try it by yourself. I've only lasted 10 minutes with ICS on my phone, buggy and slow.
No way to backup / restore back from ICS to GB without voiding the warranty right?
colorblindnejc said:
No way to backup / restore back from ICS to GB without voiding the warranty right?
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Root your phone and install CWM recovery... Without unlocking bootloader...
Rooting doesn't void warranty but unlocking bootloader does...
Then make a nandroid backup by CWM recovery
If it's not too late already, you don't need CWM.
You'll only need your stock rom (installed on your phone), Sony Update Service, and FlashTool. You'll be able to backup your stock ROM into a flashable FlashTool image.
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I extremely appreciate all the replies
Due to some GB problems that persisted I decided to take a leap of faith on this one and install the official ICS.In time I`ll write down my experience so that anyone with questions will finally be able to get some straight answers without hopping from forum to forum... Till then here are my initial thoughts:
So far I can list some general pros and cons
Pros: Sleek interface with new options, far better multitasking, gingerbread bugs fixed, better camera settings and handling
Cons: Hiccups during usage of a lot of applications, Sony specific bugs (as in Mono video recording, turning off sound doesnt work on unlock screen), extremely slow stock android browser (opera for instance is butter smooth, smoother and faster than in GB)
To say a few quick words, interface doesnt lag (dialer for example comes up in a microsecond) and is generally smooth but applications like facebook tend to have hiccups that can be disruptive if you enjoy smoothness. There are some weird bugs aswell which I dont really mind since they aint that important and should be easily addressed with the new update (hopefully). All in all im happy I upgraded. GB had connectivity dropoffs for me and the 3G or HSDPA wasnt really all that - but it is a lot better on ICS. All in all if I try to be objective ICS on Sony feels a little BETAish, I think its not optimized as it should be with the hiccups since in some areas they are quite heavy while in other scenarios during hard multitasking you cant notice any hiccups or lag at all - super smooth... Optimization would be the key word here Havent tried WiFi so no comment on that since I dont use it.
Bottom line, Im happier with ICS than with GB but not everyone would be. Especially if you value the "complete feel"